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the balfort declaration, one of the most controversial and contested documents in the modern history. it was on this day in 1917 that the british government announce its support for the establishment of a quote national home for the jewish people in palestine. this was one of the main catalyst of the nakba, the ethnic cleansing of palestine. in 1948 and the conflict that ensued with the zionist regime. in this edition of the spotlight we will look at how not dealing with the palestinian is really conflict as resulted in what we are witnessing today, another cleansing of the palestinians in the making with the help of the us. first let me introduce our guests. chris williamson, host of press tv's palestine declassified joins us from derby in the uk. daniel, author and researcher, joins
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us from bayits. welcome to you both, chris williamson, i'll first start with you, when you take a look at this uh ball for declaration, perhaps you can give us a brief uh, i guess uh historical perspective on that, but uh, what i'm looking at back then is the jews constituted less than 10% of the population at that time uh, and then uh, what they wanted to do was they wanted to facilitate the immigration of these european jews between. 1992 and 1935 uh, you then have the population that rose from 9% to nearly 27% of the total population, of course, what you think about the importance, as to the way that declaration is really what's has set forward, what we're witnessing today in terms of the uprooting of the palestinians from their land, hands are soaked in blood and the decision that was taken or this the
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announcement that was made in the balfore declaration, mean they had morally no right to to make such declaration, mean one people giving the land of another people to a third set of people, mean completely unacceptable, and of course everything flows from that, interesting that of course one of the things that also was said in the bal declaration that nothing shall be done that may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-jewish communities here. in palestine and that certainly hasn't been upheld uh in the intervening years, so yeah, i mean, i think britain is morally responsible for for what's happening, right now, and they're doubling down, aren't they? we're seeing the government and the opposition parties throwing their full support behind the of genocide of the palestinian people in gaza, it's a shocking state of affair. and i think
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many british people feel ashamed of our country right now, and that's why increasing numbers of people are expressing their solidarity, unprecedented numbers indeed of of people are showing their solidarity with the palestinian people on the streets of of london and and most towns of cities throughout the land. indeed. well, daniel, when you want to take a look at uh this uh balfor declaration, what it did was displaced and forcibly uprooted palestinians, the homes were destroyed and there's a lot of horrific stories that can be traced back. to uh that time uh of what palestinians had to experience, and uh, is it fair to make a comparison to what uh is happening today, especially with the news that israel and the us have planned a forceable displacement, which is against international law of palestinians from the ghaza strip into, again, this is a something that they haven't come out and acknowledged that they will do, but it's on the drawing board, it appears, palestinians in the ghaza strip to go to egypt, the ones in the occude territories to go to jordan. which again is a force
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displacement, is it fair to make a comparison in that way? yes, i do think it's fair and i um also think we look at abolfer declaration as one of the documents in a continuity. of uh western of different forms of western in this case british violence against the indigenous palestinian people, and the balloration in particular didn't even mention palestinians, it referred to them as non- jewish people or population, so again here we can see how palestinians have been dehumanized early on, but it didn't even start with a bulfer declaration, the early writings of zionism already, from if we go back to the end of the 19th century, look at palestinian. or if we want to speak in in colonial terms at the indigenous people as people who should not who do not belong to this land, as people who are less than human or not even as people at all, so the dehumanization of palestinians and identifying the settlers as the owners of the
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land is obviously something that is constitutive to uh zionism and stretches throughout its history, so the ongoing genocide of gaza that is taking place today is a result of these of over a century of settler colonial violence on the indigenous people with its goal being obviously for the settlers to take the land of the indigenous people and uh in all of which the what is now recognized by much of the world as the state of israel has constructed its entire identity and narrative on the expulsion of the indigenous people so um the the genocide that is unfolding right now in fact it not started on october 7 when this current escalation and the bombardments and massacres of uh thousands of palestinians are taking place, but it's actually inscribed into the ideology of zionism which requires the killing and the
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destruction of the indigenous land and the indigenous people in order for zionism to enfolds. the states that has come out chris williamson about the... instances uh that are occurring in the occupied territories in terms of the settlers acting against the palestinians are very alarming because the rate has increased uh based on one particular um tally which uh the un agency otcha actually uh cited few days back you're looking at 15 communities palestinians uh that at least 98 households comprising of 828 palestinians including 313 children have been displaced uh based on this set of violence set of violence is not anything new. but it seems like obviously this is now what they are are perceiving to be an opportune time for them to go after palestinians in the form and manner that they are uh what are we looking at there is that something that i'm guessing maybe uh perhaps is being done in conjunction with israeli officials uh people
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like atmarvier well indeed it is and we've often seen haven't we examples where the illegal settlers are being accompanied by israeli uh military personnel in their pograms against the palestinian people and uh you know the the level of intimidation and violence and murder is is is completely out of control, far worse than we've seen for very long time now, and you know the way in which the israeli settlers act is they kind of act as if impunity really and aaded and abeted as i've said by the israeli. security services, stepping up the number of arrests, i think i saw some figures earlier today, i think there's around um 2,0 people now in administrative detention, these are people who were just round up basically taking hostage, no due process, no trial, no charges and people are just thrown in these israeli
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dungeons, it's it's a shocking state of affairs and the number of injuries is is huge, while over 2,0 people have been injured, 132 people have been have been killed in the... um uh west bank um and as you say you know uh well over a thousand people displaced um this is going on in conjunction with the genocide that's taking place in in gaza right now and what sickens me i've got to say is the the compliance really the the conillance frankly of the western powers and it seems to me that you may be part of the agenda here is to gain access to the... pickings you know in the uh in the sea off the gaza coast, i understand that the zionist entity is has issued some gas exploration licenses to fossil fuel companies and you it seems that the is a um a
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desire to essentially evacuate the entire area of gas, and indeed there was a think tank linked to the the could. party linked to benyamin netanyahu that that that actually recently prepared a report, effectively talking about final solution for the palestinian question, in other words as i say. to to basically kill and and um expell the entire population of gaza, um, i believe that you, the united states are complicit in this, and talking about if the you, the egyptian uh authorities were to accept people from from gaza, some talk about them, you know, well israel paying for the cost of that, and the united states wiping out egypt's debt if they were to to do so. i think the... the egyptian authorities will will will be reluctant um not withstanding
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the inducements because the support of people you know on the ground for the palestinian people in the region is well indeed around around the world but particularly in the region and you'm not sure that if they went down that track they you know they would be able to hold that line i suspect you know there would be you know people even in the military who uh would not tolerate that but there are lots of messages apparently going out now from the egyptian authorities to to the military urging them to you know be calm not get involved etc and so on so yeah it's it's it's it's uh it's it's a real terrible state of affairs and you know the western powers have lot to answer for in their in their complicity with what's going on right now indeed um and those are interesting points that you make there uh which i've heard on more than one occasion now uh but uh let's uh focus uh on where you where i'm sure people are uh very very anxious uh to uh hear
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what the hizballah secretary general has to say tomorrow uh i'm sure uh that they are either going to attend or watch and to see what is going to be said mean i've seen a couple of the teasers and i'm sure they have meanings in it uh maybe you can tell us but uh today for the first time two drones were used these attack drones by hezbulah which targeted is really positions on the border we also know that uh for the first time uh all israeli sights on the southern border were targeted by the resistance fighters uh tell us what you think may happen i know it's speculation but since you're there uh perhaps you can give us better idea of this uh yeah it's difficult to speculate um difficult to predict what is going to happen but obviously uh there is anticipation for uh the speech that is scheduled for tomorrow because it can have lot of implications on how situation is going to f and fold uh, but of course we're currently um almost four weeks into um this
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war and it's interesting to see how the from the military side it is it is different in many ways of the previous confrontations and hezbollah obviously continues to play a major role in the deterrents against the uh zionist regime um which is um one could argue also weakened internally to an extent where it isn't able to fight um on two fronts if we look at the current situation, however of course it is it is very difficult to speculate what the outcome of of the speech will be because it is an unprecedented situation for many people here and in the region and very um uncertain situation as well. taking a look at the particular statement of genocide uh there and i'm bringing this up because it needs to be discussed chris williamson has come out on saying that that palestinians face a risk of genocide, you know this word has been echoed by uh several um either leaders or
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politicians, even the iranian uh foreign minister has uh said that on more than one occasion and i'm going to put that next to the fact that you have over the course of this uh october 7th till now uh 25,000 tons worth of explosives have been dropped on the territory and the comparison has been made to uh the atomic bomb uh guess that was dropped by the us uh of course these bombs are made in the usa, and therefore this whole complicity, which by the way, i'm sure you're well aware, us itself has a law by the name the lee act, which doesn't allow uh the sale uh or assistance militarily to uh regimes that drop bombs a civilian population just like the way that israel is doing, um, doesn't that really put into perspective or should i say, shows how the us is complicit uh really in a large degree when it comes to this war? well, the us just turns a blind eye when it when it suits it to to do so, quite
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clearly the resist entity is in breach of of that directive that you mentioned there, as we know, it's it's in breach of of international law, but they they just seem to have caught blanche to to do as they wish, i mean if, if if the uh international law meant anything to these in powers then they would be bringing pressure to bear on israel and look and israel couldn't survive were it not for the support of the united states with its huge subsidy that provides to uh israel a a annual basis and do talk of even increasing that and you know the sport that they are providing in terms of the the military hardware that you mentioned, the fact that they've actually floated two aircraft carriers into the mediterranean also tells you story, doesn't it? but you know it seems to me that the whole question really is is
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about the as strategic interests of the united states and and you clearly the... you now use israel um to further united states interests and i've already mentioned the licenses to explore uh for uh gas reserves in the mediterranean off the gaza coast, and a bit like the nato proxy war in ukraine, in the end lot of this often comes down to the whole question of of fossil fuels and the fossil fuel industry, um, and i think though that the... "public opinion in the united states is certainly turning uh increasingly in support of the palestinian people and against the israeli regime, you've even got um senators now and members of the houses house of representatives um actually openly criticizing apac, you know the uh israeli
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lobby which is incredibly powerful in the us, and politicians have always been fearful of of"" speaking out and criticizing israel and certainly not criticizing apek because of the potential repercussions, but people are now, some of these politicians who've been lived in the past, are now speaking out, so you know opinion is changing, whilst it's true that the the leaders who hold the leave us to power at the moment are very much still in the pocket of the zionist entity, um, you know, public opinion around the western world is is changing, and even some of the... politicians low down the food chain as it were um flexing their muscles to some extent and you know things i think will you are changing um in terms of you know where politics is is heading in terms of this question in in in the west but of course you on the ground the the resistance is is very very well prepared and i think uh you know
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will will take its destiny into its own hands in the in the coming weeks well we uh i'd like to find out how much they are changing, daniel yes, we're um looking at uh some of the political costs that are showing itself, um, one of the ones that bahrain announcing the israeli ambassador to have left the country, and that uh there has been a halt now economic relations between bahrain and israel, we're also looking at how bolivia has caught off diplomatic relations, but in the bigger picture we're looking at how uh this whole uh image of israel as controversial may be to lack of better word that it was. it's uh really lost uh somewhat of its legitimacy on the world stage, the protest obviously show that guess they just talked about how politicians are more sympathetic towards now the palestinian cause, but how much of an impact and damage has israel suffered, and how much more is israel risking to damage is
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whatever is left of its reputation or image by continuing this war. here also is uh who israel's audience is, and um, it's a very good observation of course that israel's uh public image has suffered to some extent, but of course if we look at the support that israel gets and we look at where it gets a support from, that's not necessarily based any rational, ethical or moral implications, the israeli regime is supported by the governments of the european union of the united states and other um governments are emerged as settler colonies including australia, new zealand, uh, canada, and their close allies, which represent basically not the majority of the world, but which have obviously a overproportional power on the international stage in the so-called international community, and obviously, given that the united states is in the un security
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council, these really regime to some extent um has sort of uh ved to uh power, so even before this current escalation and the genocide that we're seeing uh happening now, the the israeli regime was upheld by uh political elites, not necessarily by people uh around the world, so it is of course a um a shift to some extent to see that even though the israeli regime has been investing um so much money and efforts into its public diplomacy and different forms of propaganda to target in particular west audiences to identify itself as victim, to identify itself as so-called democracy, the only democracy in the middle east and to um keep recycling those orientalists and very racist, anti-palestinian and anti-indigenous language and basically fantasies and myths, at the same time um those who support the israeli
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regime at this point uh do so for for various reasons that might be anti-indigenous and and racist and we see that obviously in the discourse that is peddled by the uh political elites in the european union that keep on euphamizing genocide into what they refer to as self- defense that keep on using the same uh discourse about alleged terrorism that has been copy pasted now for years if not uh decades, but the question really is about about the power relations, and even if we see hundreds of thousands of people in the streets, it is a structural problem in the end, because even at this point it is the united states, it is washington that could put an end to uh these uh israeli crimes if it withdrew its support, so what i want to say is that there there are imbalances in power that keep the israeli regime alive and also of course with it being a proxy and a colonial outpost of the euro american sphere.
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sure. you now while guess i was speaking there chris williams and i couldn't help but think uh how is israel going to recoup when this thing whenever it's going to end economically? mean uh at this point the conservative figure is about 11% to 12%. drop uh their businesses that they can't even open uh they open for few hours no customers they close the doors in the occupied west bank uh the the transportation which lot of palestinians for example bus drivers uh are sided to just sit around whereas before obviously you know there was work there was transportation uh people going back and forth uh that is something that is not going to fall in back into its original place in a in a quick fashion, and uh, how is israel going to be able to come out of that? top of that, how there's such a strong call coming to boycot israel, iran has actually just come
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out uh with the iran's leader saying that you know israel should be boycotted in terms of its oil that is should be exported to to israel, of course regional countries contribute to that if there's a will to do that, so what do you think, can can israel actually come out of the economic doll drumrum so it's going to be facing? well, it's always, it's always recover in. in the past uh from these military excursions that it's been engaged in, but i think this is different, and i think it be much more uh problematical for them to recover, um, because you know people have seen the horror uh, not so much on the corporate media, but certainly on this channel and on channels like al-jazer etc, but also on social media, and so the propaganda that has been you know put out there by israel and by its by its willing sort of collaborators in the western. media and political class isn't actually cutting through to people, so i think the you know the uh the desire, the willingness, the commitment to engage in in boycots, will
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certainly increase, we've seen and you mentioned bolivia, i think that is likely to increase as well, this this kind of breaking off of any kind of diplomatic ties with the zionist entity, so that will also have an effect, but of course you know israel is imploding anyway, i mean there's a lot of discontent. uh with the uh um netanyahu regime and there was a poll conducted for the israeli tv channel before the latest palestinian uprising in in gaza suggesting that 28% of the israeli population were considering leaving now that will have only increased substantially i think as a result the um you know the the the incursion the alaxa flood incursion and and what's what's happening now the iron dome is is is not. as uh as impervious as as it previously was so i think you know it will it will potentially collapse with the weight of discontent internally and and the strength of of
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opposition which is worldwide now all right thank you so much uh we were fortunately out of time chris williamson host of press tvs palestine declassified daniel yejic author and researcher from beborough thank you to you both with that we come to an end for this edition of the spotlight thanks for being with us uh and i thank the team also for now it's goodbye. الله اكبر الاسلاما مرجال يا شبابوا مرجان يا
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first of the headlines, day 27 of the israely onslot on gaza, the regime pounds different areas in the beseest territory, including a un run school. amas says israel is committing the quote massacre of the century against palestinians while dropping internationally banned bombs on the besieg ghaza strip and israely settlers of attack palestinians in the northern part of the occupied west bank setting fire to their vehicles and stores.