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welcome to spotlight, the secretary general of the hezbollah resistance movement say hasan nasolah has warned that all options are on the table, should uh the israelis think of attacking lebanon. he says a prime goal of the resistance is ending the israely onslot on gaza and to ensure the... victory of the resistance front, he also said israel cannot achieve its stated goals against the resistance, and the final victory belongs to palestinians, joining us on tonight spotlight, we have julia costm, journalist and political analyst, joining us from the lebanies capital beirout, we also have journalists and political analyst elijah magnier who's joining us from brussels.

welcome to the program to our guests, let's start off with uh miss cassim in the lebanese capital beirout. uh, give us your thoughts uh uh initially on uh the uh comments made by uh of leader of hizbullah say hasan nasrulah regarding uh the level of involvement of the lebanese resistance front uh if this war continues in his own words. said hasan nasa said, all options are on the table. so uh this war this uh speech cleared up lot of misconceptions, it cleared up misconceptions that um nasrella's speech was supposed to be this uh green light for an all-out involvement into a regional war that would explode into a world war 3 type scenario which is what some people were uh expecting, but uh nas directly address this uh nasralla of reaffirmed that uh hamas is... the lead of in

this latest operation that began october 7th and basically reafffirmed that while there is coordination amongst all arms of the resistance access um the uh the palestinian resistance um acted independently just as he had reaffirmed in past speeches that the lebanese resistance acts independently according to uh their own conditions circumstances um independent of... on again debunking the uh the allegations made in western media uh days after the october 7th operation that that iran was somehow involved in in taking initiative in in provoking the the october 7th operation no he afirmed that this was entirely uh independent however uh he did uh say that if american provocation should extend if the assault on gaza

continues and if the hasball lebanese resistance is needed or if the uh the the territorial and the political uh and integrity of lebanon is threatened by the zinous entity to that extent, they would intervene, but again this is at um the this would be at the request of the palestinian resistance, which already has a great hand on the situation, um, so again that was emphasized that the hazballah's involvement is conditional upon um the the position of the palestinian resistance which is already um... doing uh huge progress on the ground and designers entities unable uh to to match it um nasaralah's warnings though that all options on the table were directed more at the americans, the americans who have materially enabled the genocide and the

assault on gaza uh to continue and to get to the extent where we have over 9,000 civilian casualties um again because the science cannot. match up to hamas on the battlefield, they've resorted to uh massacres, after massacre of civilians, um, and with american uh reinforcement and backing, which israel could not continue and cannot carry out alone, um, so nastrola sent a strong message in that regard, um, if you keep on, if the americans keep on wanting to provoke, while at the same time trying to tell, lot to stay out of it, um, war to not uh, make any any escalations, um, they are prepared and this would be the existential complete end of designity. let's bring in elijah magnia on the discussion as well, mr. magnia, give us your thoughts on the recent statement made by

said hasan asalah. one part of uh his statement was directed at the united states, uh, he said that if conflict erupts in the region, the us will be the biggest loser uh. its navy, its forces, its interests will pay the price. thank you for having me, above all, it is important to say that no country wages war on another or even a small group like hamas and the palestinian resistance, without the full support financially and militarily, even israel with all its military might run to... united states to seek support, and this is where joe biden said, we sending our carriers, they are allocated 14 million dollars to israel because it economy is in tatters and also they sending ammunition through a bridge through that

going through europe and to israel to make sure that they can continue bombing the civilians in gaza, therefore it makes the united states the first. responsible, not only partner, but it is the first responsible for the war in gaza and against the killing the civilians. moreover, when the americans uh threatened or announced that are sending carrier to the middle east, the access of the resistance in iraq and syria immediately responded even less than an hour by bonding, bombing the us bases in syria in, konico shadadi and in iraq military base to say that we really don't care about all your support to israel and we are going to do what we must do in support of the palestinian people in gaza. therefore the threat against the

americans, particularly when say said we have prepared for you, he was um... referring to the surface to surface missile that we know israel in many occasion raised of having to for the initial objective to close the harbor of ashduod and haifa in a in a case of war with israel, now as the carrier are in the meditarian, however the americans don't want to be involved directly in a war with hezbollah, they have decided to be involved with the... israelis in gaza without attacking hizbullah in lebanon and what they are doing, they are limiting their attacks in syria, because the syrian president decided not to respond, but they not doing it in iraq for fear of the reaction of the iraqy resistance, and they're not doing it against

hizbullah, because they know the capability, the military capability of hizbullah in case the decision to retaliate again the americans and the israelis and say. said something extremely important that i think it has escaped to so many people when he said those who attack you in 1982 are still the children and their grandchildren alive, now he is here referring to something very specific and he was reading it out of paper in front of him, so it means he deliberately say that, and his message is in 1982, those who are today in hizbullah, so he is taking the responsibility of attacking the marines and the us embassy and there are marines in leban and there is a us embacy in lebanon, so have if ever the americans want to decide to attack hizbollah

in lebanon, there are going to be a retaliation, like in 1982 when the americans were pushed out of lebanon and were pushed to flee the country. miss cassum, that was anotion just mentioned by mr. magny, about how the united states not only green lights uh such attacks, but in the words of... us is responsible for the bloodshed as well, do you agree with that notion? i think we've lost miss cossim there uh while we get the chance to figure that out uh let's

go back to mr. uh magnia and brussels mr. magnia one of uh the uh the key points that came out uh came up in the speech by uh hasan nasla was at talking about the operations the alaska flot which started on october the 7th he said that the operations will have a great impact on the future of the israel the regime. now many experts pointed out uh the enhanced capabilities of the resistance front uh and the resistance forces based in gaza after the uh operations were carried out. so uh, basically do you think that the israeles will now start to feel less and less secure after these events? well, there are many dimensions to that sentence. first of all, hamas and the islamic, the palestinian resistance. have created a state of uncert in israel among the settlers, that is equivalent

to several atomic bombs and why i'm saying that is because 120,000 settlers were dislocated from the settlement around the gaza, in the gaza envelope, so it's around gaza within 20 to 40 kilometers, because first they feel they're not safe, second. they feel the army can no longer protect them, second, they feel the government can no longer offer them security. now that is detrimental for the israeli settlers who came from all over the world, because they were promised the land of the palestinians that is not there, and also there were promised above all the security and the protection. when they lose the security and protection and they see the army and the government cannot protect them. then there is no reason for them to remain, so the for the first time

they had tent built in ilat, 150,000 tens that the israelis never seen before, and they went there from the lebanese borders, 50,000 and from the envelope of gaza, seeking refuge and internally displaced. what is the meaning the israelis to remain in israel and create this nation that cannot be? protected, that is point. the second point is more important than that, not only the palestinian managed to come out and defeat the gaza division, defeating the army that was terrorizing gaza for many years, face to face, killing 300 of them and capturing at least four generals, that means a lot, because it means face to face the resistance has the strength to face this vulnerable army because we heard lot about this invincible army, so they broke the image of the israeli army, it's pride and

it's the significant of its resistant of the presence, therefore now the israelis are left with the bombing, this is why they are bombing gaza from a far, this is why they have bomb with equivalent of 20,000 tons of explosive, this is what they are saying when an atomic bomb is equivalent to 15,000 and when the... are afraid of advancing slowly into the north of gaza, afraid of engaging with the palestinian, from the first day they've lost - 20, after 20. officers and soldiers and also they advancing after carpet bombing all the civilian area, including the hospitals, so we understand that the image of israel has been broken into pieces and this is why the the israelis are behaving so brutally in a genocidal way against the

palestinian civilians, because they want to kill as many civilians as possible to turn the population against the... senior resistance once the war is going to end, however they not going to achieve their promised objectives to liberate all the captives and to eliminate hamas. july cassum, hopefully you've got you back, now we can go back to the question uh that we had for you earlier about uh comments made by sasannaso that the us is responsible for the bloodshed, please elaborate on that for us. yeah, so uh, us imperialism, it's the primary material contradiction, not only in theory, but in practice definitely ways out, plays out in in the in the air of worlds and in how um, the lebanese resistance and the the palestiny resistance are engaged um against the

science, so so design sensity could not um... all of its weapons, all of its armaments, all of its uh tools and funding that's used to wage this uh brutal uh genocide against gaza is are through american weapons, um, as it was mentioned, americans, they don't want to be directly engaged against nor risk that, um, the science entities does not want to directly uh engage with hamas, um, so uh, just - you these large uh destructive us weapons, in order to create a sense mass destruction um just is the strategy less uh approach here all right let's go back to mr uh elijah magnia uh in brussels uh uh mr. magnier one issue that has uh uh it's a lot

of been getting lot of attention and lot of focus is the... issue of accountability, there has to be consequences for the crimes that the israelis are committing, just earlier today, uh, a convoy of ambulances was bombed by the israelis outside the al-shifa hospital, journalists are being targeted, 38 journalists have been killed since this war uh started, what about the the accountability for these crimes? what about the issue of consequence? is that the israelis should face with regards to all the death and destruction uh that they've laid upon the ghaza strip uh given the unequivocal support of the likes of the united states, how can this status quo ever change? because the israelis killed 101,000 palestinians since 1948 until today.

they have taken the land and gave 2% of palestine. to the israel to the palestinians in gaza and in the west bank and every day they break into the west bank and they bomb gaza, all they surround gaza, every day the violation of the right of the palestinians, when the german government came out for the first time and said, the israelis as an occupation force has the obligation to defend the occupied palestinians, now when secretary general. united nations secretary general antonio guterrez came out and said this is not the question of the seventh of october, it is question of 50 years of injustice against the palestinian, he was asked to resign, why? because there is no accountability for what israel is doing, because israel belong to the american club

and its allies where everything is permitted, going to afghanistan, destroy afghanistan. spending 2.3 trillion dollars, killing hundreds of thousand, going to iraq, invade iraq against the united nations resolution, and killing the one million iraqi, going to syria, going to libya, all that in violation of international laws and human right, committing crimes against humanity, and there is no accountability, so we do not expect for israel to be accountable, because it everything is permitted. for israel under the term of defending itself, where according to the law, sharon 2001 said, israel is an occupation force, it was later force by the israeli government and saying we are an occupation force, and an occupation force has no right to defend itself, the occupier, according to united nations charters article

4, has a right to defend itself against the occupation forces. nevertheless, always the occupier is blamed and the occupation forces are supported by the international community, because it belongs to the same. club, so if you are under the umbrella of the united states, everything is permitted and there is no accountability to expect. so uh, based on what you just said, we go, we turn uh again to uh comments made uh in tonight's speech by said hasan, that resistance is the only viable option left for palestinians, please elaborate on that for us, that is definitely a notion that has been echoed by experts time and time and again. that uh resistance right now is the only viable option for palestinians. mr. magny, that was for you.

yes, thank you. well, it is not the word of salah, it is the word of the united nations that permit the resistance that to be the only option against the occupation forces. if we take the german nazi, occupied europe. and came to france and belgium and all the european countries, they had the right to attack and kill and defeat the occupation forces. that that the united nations gave this right to the resistance, it is exactly the same right of the palestinians in palestine. this is why expressed itself in this way to say, this is our right to defend ourself, and this is what lebanon is doing. when it defending its occupied territory in on the border on the lebanese borders. okay, thank you, mr. magnet, let's get final thought in from miss julia cossim. before we

wrap up the show, miss cosim, give us your thoughts uh on the matter we were just talking about as resistance being the only viable option left for palestinians right now? one that was very important point that it's enshrigned in the un charter as uh every uh... occupied - nation has a right to resist, every occupied people has a right to resist, um, but also it's not just a point of morals, but it's a point of material necessity, one a occupying power like the zinust entity has only um, has only established itself by violent force, and as we can see throughout history to today to the expansion of the... legal settlements, it's uh does not operate any sort of