palestinian ambassador to the uk, yes, speaking on lbc, the london radio station, talking about, as we can see clearly there saying that you know we should obviously apply the same rules and trying to say that the government would actually put israel on the terrorist list as well, if it was actually applying the same rules throughout and across the board and saying that you know um basically this should be you know done in that way because they are breaking international law very clearly, and if the definitions are there to show what a terrorist is, then they fall under that same umbrella and let's hear it in his own words, what we need to do is just to apply the rules, did israel breach international law, the question was asked to the prime minister and to the head of opposition, the leader of opposition, and nobody said yes, i mean what, what, because the the reason surely is if you believe as the prime minister and kies starmer both clearly do, that israel is is

not breaking international law, the reason for that is they say that the strikes on gaza are in self-defense and they're targeted to root out hamas fighters and to kill one rule for one side of the conflict and another for the other one, well later on even the lbc presenter does say, well that will not happen, calling israell a terrorist will not happen, so he did say that regardless of how many uh people will sort of you know relate all the evidence and definitions to be the same as they call somebody else, but will not happen, thank you mohammed, thank you, we'll talk to you again uh later for more on palestinian, the media talking points. this is gaza under attack, a one-hour topical show, looking at some of the most important talking points emerging from the crisis. my guests, noor fekri and muhammad, that muslim guy, are still with me as we navigate some of the central issues emerging from the israeli bombardment of gaza. thank you both for your patience and for sticking around. um, i guess

i can get you to react to um what the palestinian ambassador, we heard him say there, the uk applying one set of rules to israel and another set to the palestinian side, i mean that that has always been a double standard um with um with israel, i think the issue is speaking about israel um under the umbrella of sort of international law, i mean international law legalized and of internationalized the theft of land um and the ex and the killing of palestinian people um and um on an international scale by estab by sort of recognizing and establishing israel as a state and so international law at that point becomes void, so there's no use in referring back to international law, international law inherently discriminates against the palestinian people, you know, it gave away their land without um the palestinian people's approval, so falling back on international, there really and truly is no use of that, and i think that's what so many people are. testing about and their you

know um being accused of sort of being hamas supporters when they go to these protests and you're not allowed to say from the river to the sea, however you know you know the infringing on people's um rights to freedom of speech um and and and it's it's entirely unfair that people can't express their political viewpoints, some people may hold the viewpoint that you know as we said earlier pre 1917 palestinians lived all together all together muslims, jews, christians under a... under the palestinian state and so and so to have that to hold that political opinion shouldn't um shouldn't get you in trouble and there shouldn't be these double standards there definitely shouldn't uh bear with me muhammad we're going to have look at some of the things that have been doing the rounds on social media i'll be back with you shortly the online battle for hearts and minds in this onslot on gaza has been in playing out on social media as i've been saying and our own latifa has been highlighting some of the biggest talking.

of time now to look at some of the stories making arounds on social media here to do that with me latifa abu good to see you uh your first story um when people are providing care to the wounded and the injured seeing loved one being garneed into the hospital yes like even when you are a professional even when you are giving your all "it hits differently when it's your own, and we need to remember that these men and women who are serving to look after the injured in gazza, the uh whether it's you know through taking people from under the rubble or treating them in medical facilities, the little that remain that haven't been bombed, these people are still human beings. let's have look at the video.

it's her daughter, i mean. nothing can prepare you for that and it's it's so heartbreaking because it wasn't something that they even thinking about you know it's in that moment you're there as and you're you're there to help others you don't think about yourself and then it's just by chance that she just managed to glance at you know these these people running running with uh the casualty in toe and just from that one glance her heart dropped and you just saw her reaction and really every parent every mother. um can can relate to this to this moment, this fear that we all have, you know inside us, that it could be us and it could be us next, and um, that doesn't mean that you know we we act in a way that you know please god, let it not be us, it's it is us,

even though you know we're not there in that moment, she is us and we are her, um, every day for palestinian families for the past nearly four weeks. um, yes, un unrelenting, unrelenting, uh, and and this is just the one time that we were able to capture that moment, imagine the thousands that we haven't been able to see, so yes, i wanted to to start us off by reminding ourselves of the reality of these people, you know, and we can talk about politics, we can talk about leaders, we can talk about you, the past, how we came to here, but actually let's remind ourselves of what it is like right now on the ground, and speaking on the ground, take us to what's happening in israeli um territories, um, what is happening to people who are calling for one of their own, calling for an end to what we just saw in gaza, so it's it's really important to remember that

palestinians come in all uh colors and religions, you now we are, we are jewish, we are muslim, we are atheist, we are drus, we are um shiah, sunni, we are christian, and everyone, the communities are there together fighting, the indigenous communities are there fighting against the occupation forces, um, and what we're about to see is just an example of how indiscriminately they do attack palestinians, so much for the only self-described democracy

in in the middle east, but also this man was just walking, you know, he and he's being imprisoned in his own area, you know, what we see here is um, the the occupation forces. coming into um a uh jewish palestinian area who are actually putting up flags. i don't know if you saw this few uh weeks ago, but there was a community who in in light of um the new uh surge of resistance and and fighting on the ground, they you know they wanted to reaffirm that they are these kind of jews to support the palestinians and they put up flags everywhere and there was a little bit of a scuffle, and this is just the continuation of this, this is just you know it's it. the first of november, it's incredibly recent, actually do remember that, i i saw that video as well, and and it's something that we need to remember that um, you know, not all jews are zionists, zionists are a um, it is a political ideology, and religious, practicing, you know, god fearing

jews who understand their own doctrine, know that their place is with the palestinians, um, and the fact that the iof can come in and they can, attack jews and this is supposed to be the place in the world where jews should be safe and you know are free of um attacks on their person because of their jewish identity, well actually know that is a lie, that is face, like you say, judaism is not zionism. um, attempts that have been made in recent years to pile the pressure on israel, to try and put an end to the occupation, one was as we discussed before the bds movement, the boycott sanctions of devestment. devestment movement, um, more of that happening on online as well, absolutely, and um, actually something that's come out of uh, you know, going back to the uh communities of palestinians there, that it is not just jews, it is also christians who are there talking

about um, the injustices that occur, you, we're gonna have look at a tweet in a moment, really something that i want to remind our viewers that this is um, this is a... a love um of the land, this is something that comes from being indigenous to to palestine, you know that no matter what religion you are, no matter you know what your... your places, in your own personal practice, you know, we are all there palestinians together and we will stand side by side. so um, when i saw this, my heart really melted, i thought, yes, you know, god are the days where they can try and divide us, you know, based on what, how we feel about sayid or sayid na musa or you know how we pray and how, no, that is gone, we are palestinian first, we are um brothers and sisters in in the um, in faith in the... faiths and we will stand by each other, and as you mentioned in terms of the boycott,

what we're about to watch now is just an extension of that, there is um, young man who uh, pointed out the the effect of the boycots that are happening in um, in the arab world, and to be honest, it shows just how desperate they're becoming, because the effects of the boycot are so great, let's have a watch, يعني انت مفكر الناس. او الشعوب كلياتها في العالم هبائل يعني اذا غيرتي شعار او الاسم اللي مكتوب بدل بيبسي حطيتيه فلسطين زي اللي بالصوره هي وراي اللي حطيت لكم اياها على الفيديو يعني الناس رح تركد وركد على السوبركات وتصير تشتري علبه البيبسي بس لاني كتبت شعر فلسطين اي والله لو لبستيها كوفيه مقاطعين مقااطعين ورح نضلنا مقاطعين مشان تعرفوا كيف تدعموا الشعوب او تدعموا الناس اللي بتظلها تذبح في اهلنا في غزه مستحيل لا رجعه حتى لو هديت الامور وخلص القصف والضرب مش رح نوقف عن المقاطعه هي هي للابد باذن الله an awareness raising campaign about dates that are produced, cultivated on stolen

palestinian lands and sold here by major retailers, yes uh and it's it's something that you know this um this use of branding, this use of palestine, the palestine flag in this can, i don't know if you can see but they've tried to use the tatris images, that's very iconic to traditional palestinian embroidery, um you know it's it's not it's not a new tactic that they have taken as you. said with the dates they would write things like jordan valley and they would put the palestinian um flag on the back, it said product of palestine, yes it is a product of palestine, but actually it is part of the occupied territories and it's part of the uh land that is being um that has been userped and now you know farmed to fund the entity itself, so you know this video not only made me laugh because like i said it reminded me the power of the boycot and it made me think yes you know even they have to um go out of their way to brand it in a certain way to make it appealable uh appealing to us, but also you know his ending, he was like

impossible, there was no going back, um, and even when we're talking about boycots, you know the people boycot for a reason, and it's usually a short-term thing to put pressure on, you know, really public opinion has changed so drastically that there is no longer, oh just for now, we'll just you know a bit of hardship, no, there is no return, this is something that we will do moving forward, these companies will never benefit from us again. we're fast running out of time. what is your last story? so uh, the last one is it's a clip, it's a heartwarming thing and it's a reminder of exactly who the palestinian people are. let's have look. it's not your land. b, you mentioned, you can't tell me that, please, don't say, i can ask you one question, please answer it. you're grand for grandfather. you know where he is, yes, where he is, give me how many, how many graves you want me to come? seven. before seven before i know yes where seven before is in hungary in hungary nine before he's in

palestine don't tell me it's not your land i'm saying it's not your land it's our land and it's will stand and will be it's not much one can say to that really very briefly what you think i think there is there is undeniable truth in the fact that the indigenous people of the land of palestine there is proof the their graves are here their homes are here their people. are here um their olive trees have been inherited you know throughout generations it is their land chakra thank you as always latifra thank you very much for that the online battle over ghaza has been the fierce um muhammed how have you been navigating that space and waiting through information and misinformation i should say? well the online battle is definitely correctly labeled as a

battle, and i'm not sure if you've heard of the haspora, but essentially there's a lot of israel propaganda by the huspora, the essentially their online propaganda department, i call it their marketing department, and obviously if you're pro-palestine or you're a palestinian speaks up on palestine, you will be attacked online, for example, so that's happened to me, it's happened to many large influencers, large pages and large voices where you're attacked online, videos taken down, you're censored, even i've had fake news articles written about me by israely propaganda and trolls about... somehow pretending that i have switched sides and now i support israel and thank you for your support, and there's just lot of propaganda and misinformation out there, and discrediting anyone who does not toe the line so to speak, exactly, so it's either the propaganda to to discredit you from that angle, or as was previously

discussed, using the anti-semitism attack, whereby anything you say, could be deemed as anti-semitic, and now the moment some people are targeted and called anti-semitic, they back off and they're they're censored, they're silence, and that is something israel has been trying very hard to do and that's to change the definition of anti-semitism to include criticism of israel, that's something we have to be very very cognicent of as well, so for me a lot of it has to do with following trusted sources, first and foremost, people on the ground in palestine for documenting what's happening, reputable organizations, and also... not being discouraged every time you get attacked online either through death threats in your in your dms or through fake articles being written on you or people trying to censor you by calling you names at the end of the day our battle is online they try to get you fired sometimes as well i've known people who have personally lost their jobs and they work in media they work at universities so they try to do that as well as a censorship

approach or or cancel you uh let me um ask nur this as well what are the some the most um outstanding, let's say misconceptions that you have come across on social media? um, i think it's definitely the attempt to sort of demonize anyone's support for the palestinian people, um, but like i said earlier, i think israel has truly lost the monopoly on the narrative in this in this circumstance, mean you know this is not the first time that they bomb gaza, but this is the first time that i see, what is different this time? mean, this time the um, we we're seeing journalists that are document. things on the ground, there's one um really honestly heroic journalist um by the name of uhza who's been documenting and posting things on social media and that's being widely shared, i think what's different this time is that i'm seeing an outpool of support and solidarity for the palestinian people um you know people are um sharing um companies different companies to boycot we've seen you know mcdonald's and starbucks being

boycotted mcdonald's gave away free bugs to the idf who you know has lot of obese soldiers instead of giving it to the people that actually need it. and so we're seeing um we're seeing unprecedented um amounts of support um and so that kind of support can actually influence i know that some people might feel like you know what i'm doing isn't enough but this is changing um the stance that some politicians are taking i mean can you imagine if for example the us embassies were attacked in let's say west asia if people began like in lebanon storming the us embassies that would that would then step on the toes of of of the us which could lead to the us calling for a ceasefire because of course. the going to be after their own interest, and so we shouldn't, you know, think of our small actions, our reposts as something that's insignificant, i really encourage everyone to be attending protest and and to be involved, every little counts, like you say, absolutely, thank you, um, stick around guys, i'll i'll be back with you shortly, now despite the united nations inability to get a cfir implemented, individual nations have been starting to make

more public pronouncements on the crisis as the death doll continues to mount, one of the more significant diplomatic voices waiting into the conversation has been china, their foreign ministry spokesperson addressed reporters and had the following to say. china is deeply shocked by the attack on the refugee camp in the gaza strip that resulted a large number of civilian casualties, and we strongly condemn it. china urges all parties concerned, especially israel to exercise maximum restraint and keep calm. effectively implement the general assembly's resolution the 27th of october, immediately cease fire, do their upmost to protect civilians and open a humanitarian corridor as soon as possible to avoid even greater humanitarian disaster. fahiima muhammad is back with the sequel to her first offering of palestine in the media. fahiima, what have you found for us? again

echoing um, especially what nora just mentioned about boycotting, and we have a video uh from. five pillars uh showing few people uh sort of encouraging them to boycot the bbc and it will be explained as to why because of their biasness and their reporting and the sort of like stance more towards um israel as well, so this video kind of highlights how many people have actually witnessed this, especially around the bbc, so um at the end of the day i think that you know the lies, the cover up, the misrepresentation, even treatment of their guests has been clearly shown to be so different if you're pro-palestinian compared to pro israeli or the diction they use on their website for example the palestinians simply die whereas the israelis are killed killed. yes, things like that, and you contextualize the 75 year old plight of palestine. bbc and the mainstream media for for 75 years, you you bring us here whenever

there are israelis who are killed. did you bring me here when many palestinians in the west bank more than 200 over the last few months? we need information that is accurate a time where people are dying in their thousands and a time where they've increased their efforts to exterminate the palestinians that they call human animals using atrocity propaganda. as the latest justification which bbc is still spreading at the behest of the foreign office. the israel is today saying that hamas used palestinians. well, so many different examples of this, and what they're calling for is that we've got at least around four million muslims in the uk, and if they were to retract their license, it would really hurt them the most, and that's what they're trying to do, so alongside you, many other companies the bbc is quite widely known to have quite an impact on this genocide and you know also support. it with their false reporting and as stated there and shown in this video, so please do take a look at that, so if the children has waid in on the well, yes, save the children uk has actually uh

quite a significant amount of following on twitter and has actually set up a petition um to send message to rishi sunak to support calls for the ceasefire, so they're calling on people to sign their petition and also go and and make a difference, so again people are trying as best they can to do as my... as they can in various ways and this is huge sort of like step for the public to come forward and do and support and we also have final tweet uh here from al jazera um showing hospital in gaza um having to suspend their operations as the israeli blocade cut off fuel supplies the only hospital for cancer patients yes and the thing is now they injured you know it's basically going after the injured and the wounded and the ones that are you know already suffering, so is clearly um, you know, if this is not a humanitarian crisis, i don't know what is, so people are

really reporting this to show you know the actual treatment that is happening in gaza, apart from what the you know defending itself sort of narrative is being put out there, how is this defense? muhammad, thank you, um, you will of course be back with us the next time we're around with. more on that. now the israeli bombardment of the jabaliah refugee camp continues to cause international outrage. in a barbaric campaign against gaza, the strikes underscore the israeli mission to eradicate as many palestinians as possible under the guise of quote unquote hunting hamas operatives. the united nations itself battle in critics would say it has not acted swiftly to reign in israel had its spokesman face the cameras in new york. with its reaction to the latest atrocities. i can tell you that the secretary general is appalled over the escalating violence in gaza,

including the killing of palestinians including women and children in israeli air strikes in residential areas of the densely populated jabalya refugee camp, and those attacks took place yesterday and today. the secretary general reiterates that all parties must obiy by international uh law. international humanitarian law, including the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution, he condemns in the strongest terms any killings of uh civilians. i can also tell you that today, the commissioner general for the un relief and works agency uh for palestine unroa, and that is philippe latsorini uh visited gaza today where he met with palestinian communities and enrois colleagues who continue uh to serve uh much. who served the civilians in gaza uh during this very difficult time. he is, philippe is the most senior un official to be allowed

into gaza since the war began. he said he was there to show his appreciation for anrwa staff in gaza, adding that anhua has lost 70 colleagues to date. let's continue our discussion uh with newwerfry here in the studio with me as well as uh muhammad that muslim guy who joins us from halifax. scotia, canada, we are fast running out of time, but first muhammad, very briefly, what do you think of the united nations performance so far? unfortunately, i wasn't expecting too much to begin with, i mean the un partition started this whole thing, the 1947 partition, which made no sense, not even mathematical sense, no logical sense, so i don't expect much from them, and the whole united nations structure in general with the veto powers. pretty much ensures that if you are allied with nation that is veto power such as the united states or great britain, you can do whatever you want, and any un resolution to try to stop you or hold you accountable will

simply be vetowed. and you can continue on with your war crimes. i think even the symbolic words by the un secretary general when he said that the october 7th attack by palestinians or the palestinian resistance did not happen in a vacuum, and that was all that he said, it did not happen in a vacuum, so we need to address the underlying causes like the occupation, and he was called antisematic and asked to step down, that in and of itself shows the failure of the un, and he had to do another press conference and and dial back everything that he said, even though he's... stated facts as he condemned everything palestinian, the failure of the un. let me, sorry to, hate to interrupt you, but i want to squeeze in one last question, for nura uh nur to address, and that is your opinion, your assessment of the um arab nations or states um performance so far, just bahrain and and jordan having recalled their ambassadors, previously three latin american countries having done that before arab

countries that are so... close, yeah, mean i'm actually glad you've asked me this question because i've compiled a list of shame that i'd like to quickly go through and the one that tops the list of shame for arab leaders is mahmoud abbas, the palestinian authority leader who shot at protesters protest in the madani hospital in the west bank, we then have the egyptian leader who has has sovereignty of opening the rafa crossing and chose not to open it for god knows how many weeks, then we then have um jordan who you know blocked missiles going from yemen to the palestinian um occupied territories heading to um et instead of you know you're already not doing anything for the palestinian people, why would you get involved in protecting the the israeli occupying entity, we had the uae that there was reports that they were bombing gaza directly, we also had saudi arabia that were you know had the blocade in yemen not allowing it to get involved in the war and lastly turkey that allows pipeline running from azerbaijan to this radio occupient entity and does not and did not turn off that pipeline when they have that capacity and capability to do so so just really really um

shameful um position from. the arab leaders and with those comments we're coming to an end of the show. i'd like to thank both my guests, noor fekri and muhammad to goes by that muslim guy for sharing your insights with us and thank you for keeping palestine in your thoughts and for tuning in. gaza under attack, we'll be back tomorrow. until then, goodbye.