tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV November 10, 2023 2:02am-2:31am IRST
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two grand milestones have been reached when it comes to israel's war in gaza, the war is now over 30 days old, and the other, the death doll has surpassed 10,000. still, no seasfire, not even humanitarian pause, which g7 agrees to, but did not call for one to actually be enacted, a failure by any means. meanwile the us transfers precision guided bombs to israel to reduce civilian casualties. this comes after 10,500 palestinians were killed, while also signaling that the us wants the war to continue. this is while internal rifts are widening at the us state department with staffers expressing criticism of how the
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government has handled the war alltogether. let me introduce our guests for this edition of the program. that number is a professor of political science at berzdate university who joins us from occupied ramala. also joining us is bill doris, anti-war activist and organizer who joins us from new york. welcome to you both. uh sad number, i'll first start with you. so we're looking at over 30 days of the carpet. bomming to continue in the gaza strip, at this point, you have uh, based on all accounts, minimum of 10,500 uh palestinians have been murdered, that number could be lot higher because there's many of them still under the rubble, you have the ones in critical condition in the hospitals and of course we know that minimum 70% of them are women and children, the ones that have been killed. um, when you take a look at that figure, it's quite telling that after all this time there has not... been a
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successful ceasefire or even humanitarian pause that can slow down the rate that has happened, so any mechanism on an international level shows that it doesn't work when it comes to stopping what has been now defined as a genocide that has happened in the gaza strip. good evening to you and all your viewers and your guest as well from new york. right, yes, that's just you know easy, because it's the israel really didn't achieve anything so far and this is really bothered them a lot, even them and the americans and all the others who supported israel in the first place, in the last 33 days israel was you know targeting gaza claiming that they want to target you know the palestinian resistance and hamas, but in reality they were targeting only civilians, they couldn't give anything to their people to say we achieved something or we did something, apart from you know few pictures here. and there few pictures here and there
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to say that we are trying to advance and to go inside gaz strip where they are still on the borders of gazda strip an open area and of they are not even daring to go in to that much so because of that they are trying to you know to get any kind of you know victory or something to show to the israeli public because of that they are continuing to - the civilians, now for the international community, even the americans, they are trying to say, yeah, we need a sees fire for three days and there are now talks, serious talks about apparently regarding releasing some 12 of the prisoners with the personal of resistance in return for a sice fire for three days, but the one who's you know was against it totally is the netanyahu, netanyahu, he don't want. because netanyahu
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he knew the moment that the war will stop, immediately his career as a politician is ended, so he want to get as much time as he could so he could remain trying to find some solution in a way or or another to save his neck of being you know sacked later on, so he's trying to belong the the war as much as he could in in attempt to achieve something, but apparently. the palestinian civilians are paying the price because the israeli are not achieving anything on the ground. all right, you know, it's interesting bill dorus, that uh, i guess i mentioned that there is something that's uh being worked out um between the us president and netanyahu, and i think lata is involved in this to agree to a three-day pause uh in order to allow progress for releasing some of the hostages. uh, now my question is, why not uh to have palestinian lives saved? and i asked that
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while it has been uh um not revealed but has been announced that uh us is going to go ahead with the um i guess transfer of over $300 million worth of precision bombs to israel with one of the state it aims to be to reduce civilian casualties and to me it sounds like they should have done that on day one why wait until 10,000 people palestinians have been murdered before they make such announcement. i'm trying to get at the way that they're looking at and or not looking at palestinian lives to be important. there is no difference between the objectives of the administration.
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if you don't want thousands and thousands of people to die, you don't pay for it, you don't s precision guided bombs, these jdams, they can be attached to any kind of bomb, they are are kill civilians just as well as as the other as all the other destructive weapons of mass destruction, us is giving to the israeli war machine white phosphorus, dense and earth metal explosives, you name it, because this this war is washington's war. and this is a difference between the view in washington and on wall street and the pentagon and the view of the people in the united states. last saturday 300,0 people marched in washington, surrounded the white house to demand and insolidarity with the people of palestine, to demand an end to the
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war in gaza and an end to us aid to israel, and tens of thousands more marched all around the country on the west coast and else. now this rivaled the size of the 1963, the famed 1963 civil rights march in washington led by dr. martin luther king, and the first big protests against the vietnam war in 1967 as it should, because this war is a us war just as much as the war in vietnam was, and what this march signified is that the issue of palestine is now for the first time at the center stage of us. uh political life, not just from the zionist point of view, but from the point of view of those who opposed the war and stand in solidarity with palestine, back during the days of the vietnam war, those of us to tried to raise the issue of palestine were suppressed, the big anti-war
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organizations didn't want to hear it, today there is a huge and growing movement in solidarity with palestine, and we see that as identical with the with the struggle of the people of this country to take uh that we don't need money to be spent on bombs and aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines and f16s and f-35s, we need housing, we need schools, we need hospitals here, and we want an end to uh, we want an end to this war right now, we want an end to all us involvement, because without us bombs, without us money, the killing would stop right now, would stop this minute, so number, um, since you're inoccupied ramala, i need to ask you, what our guest there has said about the us, um, we do see more and more uh, not that it wasn't there before, how palestinians in occupied territories are squarely putting the blame on the us in the way that this war has not been um the duration has now been one the longest 33 days, is that your feeling
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also that uh they're looking at the us that way? well absolutely, yeah the the americans were the main supporters to israel and without the... port of america, lots of things that american can't you know even dare to do, they know all the time that america is backing them, and they are you know helping them even to get away with whatever they are doing and to protect them, so we are talking about you know all these atrocities done by the israelis, the genocide and the war crimes committed only by the israelis when they are you know so cool about it, because they know that the americans not going... to allow neither the united nations or the icc or anything else to you know condemn them somehow, so they feel that they are above the law, so this is on the one hand, on the other hand, the americans were the first one who supported israel immediately with money, with
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weapon and they open all their you know bases in the arab world to supply israel, israel with the with weapon and this continued and you know they send the... the barriges to the to the mediterranean and now they are sending also a nuclear submarine, so they are you know sending them all kind of messages that we are absolutely behind. you and we are helping you, and we don't forget also the statements of blincon, the secretary of the state, when he came to the area, he said, i'm not coming as secretary of the state of america, i'm coming as a jew, and you know he start also ordering the arab countries of what to do and how to do it, and he continued with that, so america is not only supporting israel, america from our point of view is participating in this war, now in this war we are facing the... israelis and the americans together and we don't forget that delta forces also here in the in the in gaza and
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they tried three times incursions into gaza and on in a ground attack with the israeli special forces. you know you make that statement there uh bill doris and i'd like to ask you when uh i guess our side number said that the us state the secretary of state anthony blincon came and said that i'm coming here as a jew um doesn't that point to the disconnect that maybe. is there um between the way that biden and blincon and the pentagon is looking at this war? i mean, are they thinking that all these people around the world that are protesting are wrong, or not even the world, why don't they just look outside the white house? i think it was like five days ago, one of the biggest uh pro-palestine solidarity protest rallies that took place in washington dc. i don't know if you caught that, but it was huge, it was big in numbers that came out, and are they are they not really like? what's happened even within the state department we had news that diplomats were slamming israeli policy in a leaked memo that came out so uh this is why
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around them that this type of uh pro israel stance is just wrong are they not realizing that the viewpoint is wrong on this their viewpoint is in their uh financial interests which is all they consider about it's not about lincon being a jew or biden being a christian or anything like that they don't care about such things they care about the... dollars that the corporate sponsors make from endless war and make and that the position the uh state of israel, this which is really nothing more, which is really as a former us secretary of state described it, our largest aircraft carrier, and netanyahu repeated that description, is a is a lynchpin of us uh military and financial dominance, in in in the world and especially over this uh energy energy rich region and they the uh when they
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talk about humanitarian ceasefire and not ceasfire, they are they are just trying they're they are saying that because they are afraid, they are afraid of the hundreds of thousands of people who are taking to the streets, no i was there in washington on on saturday, they are afraid of the mass, the sentiments of the people in the arab world and the islamic world, and so they're trying to, they're trying to play a good cop, bad cop game. more bad cop and even worse cop, and uh, it's it's we cannot accept uh this at face value, we have to demand that the us get out, the us stop all arms to the racist state of israel, so moving because this is in the interest of the people of the united states, you cannot separate this from other issues. dr. martin luther king said the bombs that explode in vietnam, also explode here in poor and working class communities. our our our. so-called leaders would rather bomb schools in gaza than build schools here, they would rather bomb hospitals in gaza than buil
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provide health careare for people here, they would rather bomb homes in palestine and keep the palestinian people homeless than build housing that's desperately needed in this country. okay, well let's look at the reactions, sad nemer uh of uh some of the regional countries. i think one of the ones that stands out if you agree, is the announcement that was made by bahrain in terms of... with parliaments may be pressing to reverse the normalization of relations that occurred between that person and gulf country and israel, do you think that they are serious about this, a and b, are they actually going to go through with it, and see whether that could uh maybe have a contagion effect, where other countries that have normalized with israel perhaps are mulling over whether that was a good idea or not and to reverse it? yes, well we know that bahrain for. and they still have troubles as well in in the country itself, so i don't think that
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this is serious kind of you know act, they are just trying to come down their own people to say that now we are you know stop the normalization or we are calling our ambassador, jordan did the same, they also called their ambassadors and they kicked out the israeli ambassador, so you know it's because also jordan have very delicate. situation where lots of the population in jordan are palestinians, so king abdullah had to be very careful in in how he you know do his statements regarding what's going on? but we know that bahrain is doing nothing without you know consulting the saudi arabia, the saudies are not so happy with what's going on, not only just because you know they they like the palestinan resistance or the palestinians, but rather the interest, their interest also with the americans will be harmed, so they are trying to also give us
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this kind of statements today, talking about you, the normalization process between saudi arabia. and israel which stopped during the the war, they said we are not going to resume it unless there is a real solution to the palastinian question, so bahrain will will do the same in a way or another, but i think that the moment the war is ended and a little bit after, immediately bahrain will resume the relationship with with israel, other countries who are very clear about it, like the arab emirates, so not only they didn't even call their ambassador, but the contrary the... they declare it quite clearly that they are supporting you know israel to get rid of hamas, so it depends on these arab countries, that's why on saturday we have the arab summit and i don't think that they will come with something really you know practical to pressurize the americans and the west generally, i mean the european in order to
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make an effort to stop this war, so yeah, it will be you know only condemnation and statement. such like the one that we heard from bahrain. okay, bill doris, you mentioned something that uh kind of um made me think uh about the the business side of things here in terms of the financial rewards uh and i'm looking at this uh the gas fields that are off the coast of palestine and the gaza strip uh on the one hand uh where we know that uh those have been something that has been in the exploration phase and it has reached some kind of a uh i guess um conclusion where israel was able to actually export some of the gas, but uh, on october 20th, and this is what close to what, 13 days after the war began, israel makes an announcement that it has licensed six companies uh in order to go through with uh the uh contracts to go
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through with the exploration of these gas fields. okay, isn't that kind of odd that they would... that in the middle of a war, and do you think therefore that this may be one of the driving forces behind this war, the degree is up to you to tell us if you think, if you agree that is, in order to get the palestinians out of there and the gaza strip, to make sure that these licenses that they have given out is not going to be jeapardized, very much so, because the us has a ambition of replacing, and it's not feasible, but but the money is what? the gas that used to come to europe from russia with gas stolen from palestine and other regions, the biggest us company operating off the coast of palestine is chevron, which is the second biggest oil company. saudi arabia, it operates in bahrain, why should that be
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allowed, why should if i mean the countries they oppose? what the massacre going on in gaza should take should not just act diplomatically, they should act financially, they should, israel needs to be boycotted, devested and sanctioned, and companies that do business in israel should not should not be allowed to do business in countries that claim to oppose the the the true genocide that's being carried out the... city bank uh finances, israel spends the money, the arms money the us gives it faster than congress can allocate it, and last year city bank gave a 1.6 billion dollar loan to make up the difference between what the israel's uh spent
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and what congress had allocated until the in the next, so some of this 14 billion dollars that the us is promising to israel go will go straight to city bank, there's a huge corporate involvement here and that's got to be challenged you, the the uh the action, if there's going to be action to stop uh this massacker, it's got to be economic, financial, not just uh, not just verbal, sure, well oced, the occupied territories uh, is what i'd like to uh ask you, assad number, we are looking at first of all, overall 380 palestinians have been killed. over 150 have been killed since october 7th uh we know that uh towns are barely um have barely any activity going on whether it's on the business side whether it's on the movement side where you have checkpoints that have blocked movements of palestinians, you can tell us if that's true or not, and of course the violence is being uh pushed onto the
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settlers to execute against the palestinians, marbengavier was added again, given out from what we understand, these uh rifles, even though the us has objected to that, but we saw pictures of that again that he was busy doing that, um, how tense is that situation or has it crossed that threshold? well yes in the west bank it's very tense and we also expecting more and more escalation in the situation in the west bank now as you said all the cities now are cut off from each other with all these road blocks and we are talking about more than 800 road blocks now in front of all villages and you know cities which they cut all the roads between and the communication between the palestinian areas this is on the one and on the other hand, we are talking about you know the israeli army as well as the settlers, the israeli army apparently they have this kind of um new instructions to be or maybe it's their own
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you know reaction to what happened in gaza, so they are so brutal against palestinians, in in in ordinary days even before the 7th of october we know that we've been you know subjected to killing and arresting, but now they are doing this with excessive force and big humilations and all kind of atrocities that you can imagine when they attack any anywhere and they are allowing even settlers to go even further with their plans of kicking out parestinian communities from their land and to control this land and to confiscate more and more land. settlers believe now that this is perfect time for them to do all these atrocities because now everyone is focusing on what's going on in gaza, so no one is taking care of what's going on in the west bank, so they thought that they can go ahead with their plans to ethnically cleanse parts of the west bank and
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to kick communities out of its areas, we are talking about so far about more than 50 communities or exactly to be exact 55 communities were replaced or were taken off its areas, sorry. because of the settlers a number of arrests also is going very very high and how they treat the palestinian prisoners generally is also going in in in really in you can't describe it the what's going on in prisons so all these kind of things because they know that first of all they don't want the palestinian in west bank to resist the occupation the resistance on the other hand is rising up in the west bank, thank you for that, we're fresh out of time, sad number, professor of political science at buzet university, and thank you bill dores, antiwar activist and organizer from new york,
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