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tv   [untitled]    November 16, 2023 11:00am-11:31am IRST

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okay and pause, this term was termed by the israeli criminal prime minister bijam netanyahu, he is the one who suggested the pauses, and and unbelievably the the the un security council has adopted what netanyahu has suggested, humanitarian pause, we are not a video tape, they cannot pause what's going on and then forward it and backward and play it, so humanitarian pauses are ridiculous, there is nothing in ever in history was called... pause, it's either ceasefire or a truce, no pauses, pauses, that means i'll pause the attack against palestinians for example, for five minutes and they start killing them again, this is what israel wants, they don't want the truth, they know if it was a true or seas fire, it has to last for a specific time, for like a day or two, few hours, but pause can you can pause for five minutes and then continue killing people, same question. to mr. jangi muhammad
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in doha, this does seem, as uh, as asha shanon also spelled it out, it seems quite ridiculous to call for humanitarian pause. what's a humanitarian pause? they stop attacking, give some medical assistance and aid into gaza, and then they continue to kill them. uh, what do you make of this uh resolution that was passed in the united nations security council? well, um, humanitarian pause is a pr exercise for israel and and the west to make them look. good uh there's no such thing as a humanitarian pause uh you know food and medicine uh are no defense against bombs and bullets uh so you know you feed and water people for uh you know for the for the you know limited time and then you keep slaughtering them again this is ridiculous what's happening is uh a collective punishment of of people it's a war crime it's genocide and what should be happening is
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people should be calling for the prosecution of the state of israel for destroying all the means of livelihood of people and trying ethnically cleanse them um you know that this is all designed for the western uh public uh to make it and and to make themselves feel good that somehow they've done a poose and they're all very good humanitarians uh they have some morality. and that uh uh you know their own public opinion will swallow this, but nobody is uh, as we see in in uh in western countries the demonstrations are getting louder, the call for a ceasefire is getting louder and uh the the images that people see uh are are exposing clearly the the israeli state and the ideology behind it. of
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and the its western backers, so uh, this is facesaving uh gimmick by israel and the uh and its western backers and supporters, it's for them, it's this is really for them, it's not for the palestinian people. sure, let's go back to uh ashraf, with regards to the uh warnings and uh the insistence that the israelis have on moving uh people in northern gaza, north of the gaza valley, as you've clearly pointed that out for us, to the south, what is the specific interest here that the israels are pushing uh for the force displacement of palestinians in northern gaza to the uh to the south of the gaza strip, but regime knows that it's very hard for palestinians to move one place to another because of... the nakba of 1948 they already
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been displaced and dispossessed and they are afraid to move again, so lot of people remained north of the gaza valley, nearly 200 to 25000 people have remained, and now there is new development, last night the israeli war planes dropped leaflets on the eastern part of khannis, that means from saladin road all the way east to the to the border with the to the fence with the israeli. regime calling on everyone to vacate that area, that area is is the the the food basket for the entire ghaza strip and basically they want to make sure no one eats in khan or anywhere else south of of the gaza valley, already people have have sought shelter here in nasar and other areas in the western part of khannes over the last few weeks, but at least one one third of the population of of those areas like... abasan and benesuila and al
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qararara, they will remained there, and every day we have victims being killed in that of place, those areas, now literally they dropped leaflets and told the... israelis are telling the residents of those areas to completely vacate them and head west of salarian road, so they apparently they plan to do something major, although they were using artillery fire almost nonstop hitting the homes and the farmlands of kabira and abasan and and al qararara for almost three weeks now, muhammad uh in doha, let's focus on um uh some of the uh the uh political uh bickering and turbulence that we're seeing right now uh inside the united states, the administration of the us president joe biden is now facing skating criticism over its
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unbrittle support for israel's genocidal war on the besieg gaza strip there have been a few memos leaked one from the state department another was obtained by american news website axios says uh hundreds of us government employees say that israel is committing war crimes uh they also believe that the biden support, byden administration support for the regime has made him complicit actually in the ongoing genocide uh in gaza. do you believe that uh the united states is complicit in uh the the massacre that's taking place right now in gaza and uh has this unequivocal support that the uh the white house, washington. is shown towards israel uh now reached a point where it's uh almost not logical anymore to want to support the massacre of innocent women and children? as far as complicity is concerned, if we leave aside the political uh complicity, um
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the united states is directly providing weapons and bombs to the state of israel, so uh it's always been complicit in. israel has done, but here it's continued to do that whilst a war crimes are being carried out, whilst ethnic cleansings taking place, crimes against humanity and the genocide, so the united states is directly complicit, joe biden is complicit in the crimes and then if you add to that the political support that the us is giving and the veto. that it uses to shelter israel from any kind of international legal action, then yes, the united states above any other countries is is complicit, as are other countries that continue to allow oil passing through to the
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state of israel or continuing to provide trade or any other means to for israel to continue, to strengthen it, so i think there's a complicity there, but obviously within the united states and within uh the united kingdom, there is a growing movement, a growing political awareness about the nature of the israeli state, its ideology and also uh what what's happening, and uh, you know, as all human beings, um, this is stomach churning for for many people and they can't tolerate this and that includes within the biden administration um you know public servants uh lower level political staff and here in the uk civil servants uh who see
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what's going on uh who are you know um in a way forced to tell the government line when they don't believe in something uh and uh uh, you know, it's it's a moment of or, it's a historic moment in in europe, for the first time we see not only the public opinion turning against the state of israel, but uh, but um, political and people in politics and administration, who are also saying this, this is just not uh, this is just not human, we can't be doing this, we can't support this, and of course it looks. hypocritical when you look at what's happening in ukraine where there's a totally different world view, so it's it's exposing uh the united states and western nations as hypocrites and people of double standards, and top of that there is
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also a view that this is totally destroying uh the west's relationship with the muslim world, it's damaging it, and the image of the west in the muslim world and particularly the united states, although the united states has never had a great image in the muslim world um that all these western nations are going to lose influence in the muslim world, and of course that's uh, you know, a population of 1.8 billion, so i think uh, there are some real concerns and there's a growing movement, just as we once saw a growing anti-apartide, south africa, anti-apartide movement in in the west, where it was the people and the sports personalities and other. uh who were celebrities who were leading that movement and the politicians supported it till the
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very end until change at the grassroots took place, i think that's what's beginning to happen here in in the west now in the united states with civil acts of civil disobedience and here in in in the united kingdom, but of course that doesn't solve the the terrible uh suffering and the slaughter that's taken. in place in gaza. uh, mr. muhammad, let's also focus on some of the worldwide demonstrations that we're seeing in support uh of the palestinians, which you alluded to, uh, demonstrations took place uh in london, in washington, if uh, if i'm correct, uh, how would you uh dissect this uh, increased level of global awareness when it comes uh to the palestinian cause, because these demonstrated. are not just calling for an end to the israeli massacre on ghaza, they're
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obviously denouncing that and condemming that, but coupled with that, lot of these demonstrations have the message of the liberation of palestine, yes, i think there are a number of things that have happened, one is uh, we now have access in the west to media from all around the world, and increasingly people have. that the bbc and cnn, all these western media outlets are actually have always been a means of propaganda, in many cases outright lies, and social media has changed that as well, as well as access to uh global satellite tv channels from the muslim world, from russia and other places, so with social media, everybody's a journalist, basically. pictures can instantly be beamed into people's homes through mobile phones, so nobody actually uh
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relies on western media anymore, so this is sea change, and and so the truth uh is now being seen, whereas in the past, and and even now the mainstream media basically censors the truth, and puts out propaganda on behalf the state of israel, so um, you have a dichotomy where politicians and the mainstream media are putting out narrative, which is in support of the state of israel, which uh, which doesn't accord with reality, so when people see that, and that in turn fuels the anger and the the protests, and people are now uh, more familiar with the arguments, and what's happening, what is the reality of the state of israel, and so they are openly supporting palestine, and that's a
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sea change, the other thing that's happened is uh, there's in the western world, there is a a um, if you like, a disillusionment with mainstream politics, so the two mainstream parties in the united states and the united kingdom, basically uh two sides of the same coin and there's very little difference between them, so whether it's on domestic issues or on foreign policy issues like this, that there is no real alternative and there's no independent voice, and increasingly the politicians are becoming um uh spokes people for minority interests or... external interests such as the states of israel or big finance, so the people who are voting for
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them are not being represented, their views are not being representative, so the elections every five years are somewhat of a sham because the people are not in control of their their government, so democracy is being replaced with oligarchy, we now have oligarchy in the us and we have oligarchy in the united kingdom where where specific interest groups actually rule the countries uh and and and the politicians um respond to their interests and that that also is creating people's movements and people are looking for new kind of politics, one based on truth and justice, they don't want the war mongering that's gone on in the past, and i think partly that also is is fueling the demonstrations - for palestine, because here
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is a clear example of where people. feel that their politicians are doing things that are wrong, that are out of step with justice, equality and basically um uh that that they have no control over that, so the only way they can they can be heard is through protests, civil disobedience, as as is happening in the united states, um, and they want the change, um, unfortunately, in the muslim world um we don't even see um you know um uh political sort of countries using their soft power continuing to trade uh with the states of israel uh in countries like latin america we've already seen and central america those countries are broken off trade with israel um and yet muslim countries are
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not using their soft power even let alone. the military power to uh to cut ties or to punish israel or use that power to stop them doing what they're doing. joang muhammad, in europe, for example, pro pa palestinian demonstrations are illegal now, but uh, pro israeli rallies are allowed, uh, you can burn the holy quran, but you can't burn an israeli flag, you'll get arrested if you do that. explain that for us. um, well, this is the the part of the hypocrisy that's being exposed, as you rightly pointed out, you can burn the quran, you can have cartoons of the prophet muhammad, in magazines and these can be defended as they do and supported in in in
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terms of freedom of expression and freedom of speech, yet, in france protests for palestine have been banned, in germany similar bands, although the people of france are still demonstrating uh despite the the the bands, and here in the united kingdom, you know, people are being charged or the police are questioning them for slogans like from the river to the sea, palestine will be. or you know even the palestine flag on some occasions is being targeted, so there's a attempt to close down any kind of expression of support for palestine, even the home secretary was calling for pro- palestine marches to be banned, so we see total double
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standard here where you know, you as long as it suits the west, it's freedom of speech, if it doesn't suit them then it's a hate march or it's a it's antisemitism or it's something else. i think people are be you know seeing through that uh in the demonstration and getting quite fed up of it and and really people are sort of uh now i think at the verge of saying whatever they want to say and not really bothered about what the state uh state laws are saying so there's a crisis uh soon the... be a crisis of political legitimacy in in western countries where people just disregard these silly laws, mean even uh the boycot of israel is being banned in the united states, we've had a law uh which boycots bds stops public authorities from boycotting israel, so you can't even express, you can't even make ethical decision
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uh to divest from uh you know israel or for a university to stop having links with the state of israel, this is really you know the last all oppressive states in their last stages uh they try to uh ban everything and stop people from uh expressing themselves marching protesting and that leads to unfortunately it leads to greater activity and violence sometimes uh and uh, these are usually the signs of a, of an end game, uh, we saw it in south africa, towards the end, we saw it in ireland where you adams from shin fein, you could broadcast his face, but you couldn't broadcast anything that came out of his mouth on tv at one stage, so uh, so so
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these and we've seen it in colonial india, in all kinds of colonial states in the past, where those who were leading liberation movements were imprisoned for speaking out, um, laws were passed, criminalizing them. for activities, it's it's a well-worn scenario uh, and it will be very interesting, the next few years in in in the united states and in britain, the most advanced democracies in the muslim world will be very interesting, but also france, we're all already seeing that protests are now regular feature of political activity in in france, so i think the three oldest or or if you like um creeking uh they they seem to be uh in a new phase and we
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don't know what will emerge from that and one last question before we leave you mr. muhammad and that's about what's taking place inside israel, the political crisis and turbulence there, israel's opposition leader has called on prime minister benjamin netanyahu to step down. the growing disconent over his handling of the war on gaza, there were also uh demonstrations uh mass demonstrations again uh taking place um in continuation of what we saw prior to the uh october 7th uh operation alaxsa floods uh many experts and observers believe that benjamin antonio would be taking this opportunity to maybe uh distract um attention from the crisis, the political crisis is going on inside israel, but now we see that that's not the case. how much trouble is benyamin antoniau in more now than uh than before the october 7th uh um operations by
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the gaza base resistance movements? the the real issue is not benjamin netanhau, is basically um the demographic changes that have taken place within the state of israel, which are uh basically uh leading to deeps deep rifts within society, israel was always meant to be secular project, secular zionist project, but the growth of the religious - groups within uh israel, i mean a report was done in 2002 which i've written about which projected the population changes to 2050, and and we're seeing, it's actually happened long before 2050 that the religious science population would increase, the secular jewish
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population would decrease and the arab population in israel would increase, and that's happened, so the religious zionists, many who were opposed to the zionist project, lot of those have now embraced religious. zionism, and we see that in the settler activity, but in the elections uh that took place last year, we saw representatives of those religious sionist groups uh come to power, and effectively, although they're still not the majority, they hold the reigns of power, people like smotrich, ben gover, these people are now in power, and these are these, these not only see... palestinians as aliens who must be removed or and see the whole of the land as theirs, but they also consider secular zionists not to be real
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jews, so they're questioning the whole whole idea of who is a jew, and of course the secular zionists, are are if you like concentrated in the cities within israel, the main cities? and there's no room for all these new uh jewish uh imports uh coming to the country to live there, they have to live in these high-risee towers and they didn't leave their you know homes in in the west to come and live in apartment blocks. the only land that exists is in palestinian areas or in the desert or where religious zionists live and they don't really want to live amongst them. so so israel is breaking up itself, it's fragmenting, and the whole idea the what the religious zienists wanted, where
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there were mass protest for october 7 was the control of the supreme court, and that does number of things, if the religious zionist control that, they get to define uh who is a jew uh and you know what constitutes um uh jewishness, and and above all uh one of the main uh rulings that they want to overturn, the supreme court had previously ruled. uh that the palestinian territies were occupied according to international law, so that's the israeli supreme court had rule that, they want to overturn that uh, so they can consider the under religious uh scriptural uh interpretations that the whole of the land of the palestinians is uh is theirs and that's
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what's been going on since december last year, and that's why you've had so many deaths in in the west bank, for for for most of this year, and their activities and attempts to storm alaksa with the aid of israeli soldiers, but the secular zits know that uh, that their days are numbered, and that once these people get control of the supreme court, and and in future no israel government can be formed without these people and so they will hol hold the the the basically as a proportional representative government, they will hold the power, so i think israeli society is fragmenting internally, those tensions, benjam, benjamin netanahu is basically uh, you know, escape goat for them, uh, but the deep-seated uh,
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because he's allied himself with... these people, but i think what's happening is it's fragmenting and i think uh, you know, zionism will implode from from within. thanks lot, sir, director of center for muslim affairs, mr. jahang muhammad, joining us from uh doha, and the israeli genocide in gaza continues, it's entered its 41st day as a regime keeps pounding uh the bloccaded territory with air strikes, we're going to keep you posted on all the... latest developments with regards uh to the israeli war on gaza right here on press tv for now we're going to return to the normal course of programming thanks for watching.
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presses ahead with its attack on gaz al shifa hospital which is turned into the focal point of its deadly raids in the besieg territory, according to health officials in gazes, rainy army's bulldozers and tanks have destroyed parts of the southern entrance to the medical complex. a un agency says out of 24 hospitals in the north of the wartour and gaza strip, only one is now receiving patients. it says 18 hospitals have been shut down, while another five are providing limited care, the palestinian red cross is also unable to help those were trapped under the rubble. lebanon says: