tv [untitled] November 16, 2023 4:00pm-4:31pm IRST
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cool down in gaza tonight, this one presses ahead with this attack on gaza's alchufa hospital, which is turned into the focal point of his deadly braids in the beseest territory. according to health officials in gaza, israely army's bulldozers and tanks have destroyed parts of the southern entrance to the medical complex. un agency says out of 24 hospitals in the north of the war torn gaza strip, only one is now receiving patients. it says 18 hospitals have been shut down, while another five are providing limited care. the palestinian red cross is also unable to help those who are trapped under the rubbles. the washington
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pro-palestine rally turns violent as protesters and police faced off outside of the democratic national headquarters. protest was called for a seisfire in gaza. also in britain's capital, london and jordan's capital. aman, protestors condem israeli raids on alsshifa hospital, as well as a us support for the regime's atrocities. group of 56 uk labor party lawers have gone against their party line by voting to amend the government's motion. to officially urge for ceasefire in gaza, the motion put forth by the scottish party called for an end to the collective punishment of the palestinian people, while demanding the government of workforcefire, and the former state department official, a former state department official says, leading us officials willfully ignored israeli war crimes in the besieg gaza strip over domestic policy concerns. josh paul says many officials are disturbed by israel's actions, but turn a blind eye to rules governing us arms transfers to the regime.
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hi everyone, judge andrew napolitano here for judging freedom, today is friday november 3rd, 2023, professor john mirscheimer of the university of chicago, joins us now, professor, always a pleasure, thank you uh very much for making time for us today, um, given the well-known and understood closeness of the united states to israel, what leverage, if any does the us have? example, as we speak, literally, as we speak, the secretary of state of the united states is in israel, trying to ask the israelis to engage
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in a pause, i guess euphemism for a temporary ceasefire while humanitarian aid comes in and apparently is not having any success, what leverage does he have? he has remarkably little leverage uh, the fact is that the united states and israel are joined at the hip, there are no two countries in recorded history that have a closer relationship than the united states and israel, and when this crisis broke out on october 7th, the biden administration made it very clear from the get go that we would give uh israel whatever aid uh it needed and that meant both weapons and money and that we would support israel to the health and we have done that and once you take into account that that tight relationship and just how committed we already are. uh to this war, it's very
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difficult for us to back off and then to begin to put pressure on israel to do x or y or z. excuse me, mean there's no question that blincan can go to the middle east and he can try to put pressure on israel, but the israelis can tell him no, and then what is he going to do, and if he decides that he's going to get tough, which he isn't going to do, american domestic politics, the power of the... israel lobby here would kick in and make it very difficult for the biden administration uh to put any meaningful pressure on israel to the arab world and to of much of the world, the israeli military response to the horrific attack on october 7th is entirely out of proportion uh and it has caused uh the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent civilians, given the
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closeness of israel and the united states, as you've just articulated it, professor, does this cause some blame to be placed on? the us of in the minds of those who condemn the excesses of the idf, absolutely, and in fact you can find evidence of people around the world saying that the americans are more responsible for what's going on than the israelis, more responsible. well, some people can understand why the israelis, given what happened to them on october 7th, have in a sense uh escalated uh this war in truly significant ways, but the americans were not attacked, and you would expect the americans, especially given that they claim the moral high ground, and they claim that they believe in the the laws of war, to try to uh moderate
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what the israels are doing, that's what you would expect, but instead the americans uh have jumped into this conflict with the israelis and we're supporting the israel is down the line uh, so i think there are people who think that we're more of fault than the israelis. again, you can sort of understand why the israelis uh have spun out of control here. it's similar what happened to us after 911. we were hit on 9:11, and almost everybody now agrees that we over-reacted. one could argue that the israelis are over-reacting, for sure, and i'm not justifying what they're doing in terms of killing all these civilians for one second. but in a sense you can understand it, but the americans, they have no excuse. do do you uh think that hamas intended to provoke this overreaction in order to generate animosity towards israel and unity amongst the arabs
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and sympathy for the palestinians and support for the two-state solution? i don't think they're interested in the two-state solution, i think they're interested. one state solution where hamas controls all of what is now israel, uh, but putting that aside, i'm not sure exactly what they expected. my sense is that this operation, hamas's operation, turned out to be more successful than they anticipated. i think that they put lot of effort into planning this operation and they understood that it would be much larger operation in terms of the scope uh than passed attacks on israel, but i think they were surprised by just how successful they were, at overwhelming the israelis, capturing hostages and so forth and so on, and i think that they recognize they would provoke a response, but i don't think they expected it
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to reach this point. how dangerous do you think it would become uh if the israelis asked for american troops on the ground to fight alongside the idf in? gaza, i don't think the israelis would ask for that, it may be the case that we'll put in special forces, and there's some evidence now that we have special forces there who were advising the israelis, but actually putting american ground forces and large scale american ground forces, i i think is out of the question, i think that biden wouldn't do that, is is it dangerous by which i mean, the israel is going to lose? more than they can politically tolerate for the idf to engage in urban warfare, remembering that two-thirds to three quarters of the idf are reservis, certainly not experienced, perhaps not even trained in urban warfare, well i mean the israelis face
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two problems, one is pressure on the home front to scale down these operations, and lot of that has to do with the hostages, the families of the hostages are not happy about what's happening in gaza, because they live in fear that their loved ones will be killed, which is completely understandable. there's also the basic fact that as the israelis take casualties in gaza, there will be pressure from inside the society to pull out or to pull back so as to minimize those casualties, that's the domestic dimension, then there's the international dimension just seems to me watching world opinion on this one and all the pressure that's being brought to bear not simply on the israelis but on the americans uh to uh move towards some sort of seasfire and then deescalate uh given that it's just hard to see how this goes on uh you know for
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more than few weeks if even that i could be wrong but it does look like the israelis are going to be forced uh to at least uh ameliorate their efforts, if not move to a ceace fire. doesn't prime minister netanyahu have a personal vested interest in extending the war? "knowing as he must, as soon as it's over, the cries for him to leave office will be overwhelming and universal uh, within israel, and he may even lose his liberty as well as his job, because his corruption trial will resume. yeah, i think there's no question about that, the best case scenario for him is to continue the war and actually win to defeat hamas and get some sort of political arrangement in gaza, that is suit." from israel's point of view, i think the likelihood of that happening is is zero, but
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he does have a vested interest in pursuing that, and if all of sudden there is a ceasefire, that in effect means that hamas has won, because the israelis have not beaten hamas and that would be extremely damaging to netanyahu has already damaged goods, as you pointed out, but but an idea, can the israelis really kill an idea? no, i mean, the fact is that as long as you have an occupation uh, and you are in effect suffocating the palestinians, whether it's in the west bank or it's in gaza, they're going to rebell. i mean a lot of people think that what happened on october 7th is an anomaly, you know, this is the first time you had major uprising by the... palestinians, but this is not the case. you had the first intefada in 1987, you had the second intefada
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in 2001, and uh, no matter what happens to hamas, you're going to have organizations that come along uh, and they're going to rebell against the israelis because they hate the occupation, and they want uh, they want to resist it, and they want some form of political autonomy. some. members of prime minister uh netanyahu's cabinet have said horrific things, racist, is is almost a charitable description of it, about the palestinians, does prime minister netanyahu, if you know, does the lakuud party, if you can derive it from their public words, believe that all men are created equal, uh, look, the fact is, inside greater israel, and greater israel, includes the gaza strip and
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the west bank, you have about 7.3 million palestinians and 7.3 million jews and in a country with that kind of demographic distribution, there is simply no way you can have equal rights for the palestinians and the israeli jews, because you would... eventually end up with a palestinian state and there would be no more jewish state, so there's no room for equal rights, and that means that you end up with a brutal occupation, and when you have a brutal occupation, what you end up doing is dehumanizing the victims and there's a very powerful tendency inside of israel, and this is certainly not true among all israelis, but among israelis on the right, especially to dehumanize the palestinians and dehhumanizing the palestinians is necessary for lots of
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people because it provides rational for the occupation for keeping the palestinians down. so i think given the present situation in israel, talking about equal rights or treating people equally, whether they're jewish or whether they're palestinian uh has no place in the discourse. want to take you. back to uh 1948 at the founding of the state of israel uh with the uh support and encouragement of the president of the united states at the time, here he is. we had several other people in the country, even among the jews, the zanas particularly, who were against anything that is to be done if they couldn't have the whole of palestine and everything handed to them a silver plate so they wouldn't have to do anything, it couldn't be done, we had to take it in small doses. "you can't move uh five or six million people out of a country and fill it up with
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five or six million more and expect both sets them to be pleased. 49, but don't think that decision to recognize israel is easy one. i had to make a compromise with the arabs and divide palestine. the jews wanted to chase all the arabs into the tigris and fretes river, and the arabs want to chase all the jews into the red sea, and i was trying what i was trying to do. to find a homeland for the jews and still be just with the arabs. i guess he couldn't have imagined that 75 years later literally. this would still be going on and and would reach the the depths of bloodshed and horror that it has. well, i think if you think about the hamas israel conflict today, what truman says, rings true. it's quite clear that lots of israelis would like ethnically cleanse uh the palestinians
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in gaza and in the west bank, so that the demographic. inside of greater israel favored uh the jews over the palestinians, so i think basically trueman understood at the time, what the problem was, and talk to me about nato and western europe, what do they expect the united states to do in order to bring about some resolution uh of this? i don't think the... have any expectations, i think all these people understand that there is no resolution to this problem. i believe that tony blincon and joe biden understand that as well, we're in a situation where there just is no solution, is is there um an angle here for vladimir putin or president g to uh show
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some leadership? oh, absolutely, this is mona from heaven for the two of those. guys, first of all, they have been making hey out of the argument that the united states, which was or has been principally responsible for trying to settle this conflict between the palestinians and the israelis, has failed, we failed, and they've been pointing that out, and they argue that if they had been more involved in the process or the international community had been more involved, we would have been successful at solving this, and then further more, they're arguing that now that this massive conflict has broken out, the united states is mismanaging it, because instead of trying to settle the conflict, to calm the israelis down and try and work out some sort of modus vendi, we're just fueling the flames and making a bad situation worse, and that's an argument that resonates with people all over the planet, it resonates with people in the united states as well, and by
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the way, that includes lot of american jews right, who are very interestant. in settling this conflict once and for all, because this is nightmare scenario for them as well. you have argued, as you always do, compellingly and articulately, that 30 years ago there was one great power in the world, the united states and now there are three, there are a variety of reasons just to how that happened, you understand them better uh than anybody, i know, and the other two of course are russia and china. is the world going to look to russia and china to provide the leadership where the us has failed? well, to talk about the world is difficult, it's just too broad a concept. there's no question that the west europeans and east europeans will continue to look for the united look to the united states for leadership, because they love nato,
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because nato is security blanket for them, so we'll be fine there, but once you get out of western europe. or the west more generally, what you discover is that there's a great deal of animosity towards the united states, they think that we're hypocritical in the extreme, and there's much more sympathy for the russian position and for the chinese position, and that's why the russians and the chinese are making hey in what we call the global south at our expense, this used to be called the iron wall, this is... is a concept associated with the famous zionist, zv yabitinski, and the idea was you could use the iron wall or the male fist to beat the palestinians into submission, and mowing the lawn uh is very similar to that, uh, but the fact is it hasn't worked, as we found out on october 7th, and as we were talking about few minutes ago, the idea that you're going to
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defeat hamas once and for all, and then the israelis are going to live happily ever after. that's not going to happen, there has, so is this, is this going to end diplomatically or is it going to end with a wider regional war? well, i don't believe, i hope i'm wrong, it's going to end diplomatically, i believe it's just going to go on and on, and what that means is that the potential for a wider war is always there, right? can i say one way or the other that you are going to get a wider war? no, i don't know, we just don't know where this train is headed, but the potential for horizontal escalation is significant. does joe biden truly want two-state solution, does he understand the significance of the president the united states? calling for it, oh, i believe that he wants the two-state solution, i, i think he he, he understands that that is uh, one way uh, out of this mess, but to get
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a two-state solution, joe biden would have to put significant pressure on israel, and he's incapable of doing that, joe biden has passionate attachment to israel, he has made that clear in on countless occasions. he is deeply devoted to israel, and the idea that he's going to step back and begin to put serious, coersive pressure on the israelis, i think is unthinkable. professor, mershim are always a pleasure, my dear friend, thank you, so much for your time and for your insight, hope you can join us again towards the end of next week as well. my pleasure, judge. thank you, have a great weekend, you too. okay.
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the headlines this hour, the un agency says only one hospital is not functioning in the northern part of the besiege ghaza strep as israel presses ahead with this attacks on the alstra hospital. us police attack propilestanian protesters rallying outside of the democratic national headquarters in washington making a number of arrests and resistance movement has carried out new strikes against israel's military positions along the lebanes border.
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