tv SPOTLIGHT CHILD KILLING UNABATED PRESSTV November 17, 2023 1:02pm-1:31pm IRST
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un has finally passed binding resolution calling for pauses in the israely war in gaza. israel has objected while it continues targeting the shifa hospital presenting false of evidence of the hamas presence falling way short of it being a command and control node or center. meanwile the us continues to reject a seasfire while other allies like france are objecting to israel's tactics especially in the occupied west bank, calling the settle of violence a policy of... aimed
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at displacing palestinians, let's find out what a guess things, let me introduce them. of lax magniar is a journalist and political analyst joining us from brussels. also joining us is daniel yedic, author and researcher who joins us from bayroit. welcome to you both, i'm a loss to know where to start with the olasia magneer because... uh we we're seeing uh things here that uh defy logic, so let me start with one of them, which is the way that israel is going about um exercising its military, i guess capabilities uh, we're looking at the way that it is, it is targeting hospitals, in particular right now the alchufa hospital, we know what is done to the previous facilities, medical facilities, we still see the um deathtul rising incrementally - but we don't in
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really see the stated goal of this operation which was to eradicate hamas, i don't recall the last time really that israel has said this many hamas fighters um have been taken out along with this many of their equipments, they have made that that announcement, but very far in between, and that has actually put into question, which is my question to you, the real stated goal of this military uh incursion, which has been called genocidal. um, is the intent just to kill palestinians, do you think? uh, thank you for having me, so the objective is far from being to defeat hamas, or to liberate all the captives, because both objectives are impossible to achieve in with military means and the israeli government and all their allies are fully aware that these objectives are not achievable, therefore the undeclared
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objective of the israelis are three things really: first to kill the largest number of the palestinians and scare them to for those who want to remain to leave, to trigger another exodus, secondly is to create buffer zone in the north of gaza, to remove everything from north of gaza, destroy everything and then create... an area where is unlievable and third to try and bring back the state of in certainty to the settlers that they feel totally uncertain and they've lost all the trust in the israeli occupation forces and their government. by doing so they could not declare the clear objective from the start otherwise the international community... will stand against this ethnic
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cleansing and will feel embarrassed to support israel further with a declare objectives. however, by killing slowly the palestinians, creating more than 11,300 palestinian killed, mainly children and women, by destroying the infrastructure, cutting water, electricity, fuel and medical supply, and creating genocidal, um killing inside gaza strip under the watchful eye, of a impotent eye, eyes of the united nations and the international community, israel have already achieved that by showing its murderer type that derives from this nature of coming from a terrorist, we're going to take you uh live now to the besieg gaza strip where a huge explosion has just erupted most likely
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from as a result of an israeli air strike, you can see smoke over their billing over the gaza skyline, we have very little in as of now with respect. like to what this may be, but this a video you're seeing live showing huge explosion, explosion as rockets have been launched to hitting the the siege enclave now we're on the 42nd day now of the israeli war on the besieged uh palestinian territory, latest figures are over at over 11, 500 uh fatalities in the beside gaza strip over 4600 of those are children, nearly 4,000 have been women, the majority of fatalities have been civilians, nearly 60% of the entire uh gauza infrastructure has been
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completely or partially damaged, there is still a siege 42 days and counting a clean water fuel, medicine, medical supplies, out the 36 gaza hospitals, nearly uh 20 or more at this point have been completely shut down, and the few that are working are running on emergency rations of uh, many are out of anesthetics and uh surgical equipment, proper medication, it has just become a nightmare, more than half... the 2.3 million people in gaza have been internally displaced uh unra shelters are maxed out unreas says which is the uh un refugee uh for palestinian refugees the un organization for palestinian refugees says it's completely out of a fuel now that's
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going to affect over 800,000 people that it is uh sheltering you're joining us this is huge explosion that has just rocked the gaza skyline you can see smoke there billowing, we know very little what was targeted, but as you can tell, it is a substantial size explosion, as yet another israeli rocket has uh hit the besieg gazo strip and mentioning uh explosions and it's really rockets and missiles and air strikes, the amount of explosives used has now surpassed two and a half times the amount of explosives that were used. by the us on japan's hiroshima that resulted uh in over 100,000 civilian deaths during the second world war. we will be following developments very closely here a
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press tv, as soon as we find out more with respect to what that explosion was that just rocked the besiege gazas trip. we'll get it out to you later in the broadcast. until then, stay tuned and bye-bye for now. one thing from the military objective and controlling it, controlling it is a completely different thing. sure, we're going to discuss that hopefully if we have time a little bit further. all right, daniel, let me let me ask you about uh this al shiffa hospital that's uh been targeted and then the show that israel put on in terms of what they found there. there was a press conference a couple hours back uh wheresama hamdan one of the senior um the hamas representatives in uh lebanon that he described with some of the uh props that he had, how it fell way short the israeli presentation of what it had discovered, why don't you tell us your impression of what they showed, because uh, any analyst that has posted anything on this
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is saying that uh this was just fabricated that this alleged discovery of weapons is entirely false, what's your take on it? very much represents the general israeli policy of trying somehow to create narratives that could potentially justify these war crimes and genocidal aggressions and it was very clear of course that the israeli regime has now tried to create some sort of what they refer to as proof or evidence uh which again appears very artificial and um it is i mean almost you know the israeli regime making fun of everyone else and ridiculing. um the rest the world by um staging so the one hand of course having this genocidal uh aggression on gaza that killed more than 10,000 people and the number of that hasn't even been updated in the last days due to this communication blackouts and then at the same time trying
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somehow to create audio visual pictures whatever sort of material in a very desperate attempt to try to justify their actions which are completely unjustifiable not only from any moral or ethical consideration but also under international law, so it's very much ridiculous what the israeli regime is trying to do um and again it's trying i think to uh address its western audiences, because the the the bit support of support that israeli regime still gets is in fact not from people or from the masses, but from north american and european political elites, mostly from the right wing, but depending on the place throughout the political spectrum, so um it is um obviously very desperate communications propaganda attempt, but again very representative of what the israel regime generally uh does, which is to actually uh ridicule its victims even after uh killing
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them and massacking them and trying to convert them again into this category of terrorist which basically has no meaning whatsoever except for defining anyone who is against this zionist colonial genocidal um uh regime so uh the question really is what the israeli regime is trying even attempt with this ridiculous propaganda? well that's the question, isn't it? elijah magneer, top of that, you have the us that says, we have complete faith in what israel has in the alcha hospital in terms of it being a control and command center, that they have intel to that effect that would support it. first of all, where is that intel that the us is talking about, but aside from that, some are saying that they're just copying the israelis instead of actually presenting the evidence that they have, but whatever israel presented fell way short of what uh it claimed to be, which was this uh command and control no. didn't even come close to it, so then the question is uh, why go through with the
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presentation if you agree, and then doesn't that corner israel, because they they they keep saying, we'll have more evidence to show you that will make you uh believe that this is a command and control center, well it corners israel if israel is held accountable for its uh murder and genocidal attacks, but because the israelis are not... held accountable for anything they are doing, not withstanding violating all international laws, being accused of committing crimes against humanity, war crimes and ethnic cleansing, what is very, very strange in this war, mean we know the americans are always supportive of whatever israel is doing and protecting it, particularly the united nations and and sending weapons, but this time they've sent special forces, they send
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carriers, but above all they did not refer back to their intelligence, to the us intelligence, on the contrary, they are just recycling exactly the same israeli intelligence based a lie, so when president biden confirms that there are hamas headquarters, under the shifa hospital when john kirby the spokesperson of the national security and the spokesperson of the pentagon, all of them confirm quoting intelligence information, independent intelligence information, although they confess they have no boots on the ground, that they are sure that hamas has a headquarters under the shifa hospital, and all that resulted in a lie, and they in theory they should feel embarrassed, however they they not, because we are accustomed to
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the americans and the israelis to wage many wars in the middle east, and at the maximum we've heard like tony blair saying, i'm sorry after being part of the killing of one million iraqi, and the americans and the israelies don't really need to say they are sorry, they can continue doing business as usual. and nobody is going to render the accountable, therefore being being exposed in their lies but not only by hamas, the entire social media community is really finding very ridiculous the way that the israeli occupation forces are presenting these fake evidence, and then they delete their tweet, they recycle again what they have exposed in the... beginning and in the hall of 45000 meter of the shifa hospital, they found few
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ak47 in the irm room where it is impossible to have metals in that room, so everything is really a bad taste propaganda, but again because they not accountable, they can do it. yeah, and they say that they've targeted 10,000 uh, guess targets inside the gaza strip, and many are saying those were civilians that they killed. anyways, let's move to uh what many uh are not focused on, many meaning either the media all together or that uh, perhaps the eyes have been taken off uh the uh tense situations. that exists and daniel that's on the in the occupied territories in the occupied west bank um israel is uh just moving ahead with its policy of either incursions which have resulted in deaths so far for the year 100 and i'm sorry so far since october 7th 190 palestinians killed we have for the year in terms of demolitions 890 to have taken place
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and we're seeing a uh for the first time it happened ago where a drone was used in the algenine refugee camp, we're seeing the use of a drone again that had a struck a refugee camp um and there you know is resulting in deaths uh where do you see that situation going because we know the way that uh the the settlers specifically and overall israelis are encouraged to act out against the palestinians are they looking to ultimately my question being are they looking to uproot palestinians even from the west bank is that one of the goal? this is absolutely one of the goals to uh at least reduce the land on which palestinians remain to be living and of course to ffurther enforce new dimensions of their policies of control and coersion which is part and parcel of the israeli settler colonial project and as we already mentioned there is of course lack of accountability
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there is no one to hold the israeli regime accountable so why would i stop with these uh atrocities that are not just restricted to gaza, but as you mentioned, ongoing in the west bank where there are continuous increases in not only the the continuity, but also the intensity of israeli crimes and israeli violence against palestinian civilians both by the azionist settler state as well as the armed settlers which collaborate in their violence against palestinians and of course at at the same time the israeli regime is on on somehow also a quite... spread position militarily, because as we see in gaza, its strategy is to kill everyone and uh bomb um literally to commit genocide and lot of this aggression is mired in the west bank where the israeli regime is increasing the techniques uh it uses in the uh coersion and the killing uh of
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palestinians of course to further enhance their um the their presence. there, but of course we need to keep in mind that the entire structure of the israeli colony is built on the idea to continuously advance and take more land away from uh palestinians and part of the strategy that has been used in the west bank is by turning the entire west bank into enclaves that are separated from one another with israeli checkpoints and heavy israeli military presence, so it seems very likely that this current situation is a another provides another advantage. for the israeli regime or another opportunity to farther um to further expand its uh terrorist tactics into the west bank. well uh we are looking at elijah the the west bank and in particular the refugee camps to suffer these uh incursions which which has resulted in deaths, but um uh the what are how do you see
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uh the possibility of after the ghaza war at some point uh once it's over for there uh to be uh an optic as we've seen it already be in terms of uh the regime forces um targeting um the palestinians and for there to then be a spike in terms of the palestinian deaths and murders. we have already seen that happen from october 7th. once that war is over i think this is not a new fronts but the continuation of the old but a higher pace in terms of the regime forces moving in on palestinians do you see it? way, well, we have seen this conflict going on for the last 75 years, this is not the first war on gaza, although this is the first time this scale of destruction gaza is facing and a possible ethnic cleansing as well from gaza, but to defend themself and be considered as a
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resistant forces. under the ruling of mahmoud abbass in the west bank. we have seen how the israelis have abused and have killed the palestinians indiscriminately, even an area under the control of a president that is in very good terms with the israelis and with the americans, but this president is unable to protect his population, there are 2,700 palestinians since the beginning of this conflict on the 7th of october that were arrested from the west bank. so we understand that mahmoud abbas has around 50,000 police officers whose main job is to arrest the palestinian resistance. now if the palestinian resistance. will not understand that they are all inside this problem as one hand and that they are indeed a resistance with the un legitimizing their right to
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defend themselves, i think israel will consider this war as business is usual, and then we return to what benyamin netanyahu showed us, if he remains or not in power that is auguble, that on the map that he presented in united nations. the west bank and gaza, they disappeared, so the the people, all the palestinian in the west bank should take an example of gaza, not because of the destruction that israel has inflicted, but to create a state of secur insecurity for the settlers, so they understand they cannot get away with robbing the palestinian territory and think they can come from all over. the world and occupy any land they want while they are watching their brother in gaza killed. i think the west bank needs to do exactly what gazza did and need to really
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abide by the united nations article 55 and consider themselves as a resistance and act as such because the israelis will kill them slowly maturely. but and that that's within the right isn't it daniel uh that uh the resistance. even an armed struggle is uh against the colonial occupation is within the confines of law and it's not just recognized actually by international law but it's actually specifically endorsed and i think that's i mean um looking at the different options there is none the international community can't stop palestinians from being slaughtered uh you have the un helpless there uh you have uh unfortunately arab countries they haven't stepped in the way they should so where can palestinians then look to except? for the fact that maybe the armed struggle is within the right to uh obviously fight against the occupiing regime exactly and this is enshrind in several un
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resolutions that grants very clearly people under military occupation the right to resist against this military occupation with all with all means at your disposal including armed struggle and as you pointed out there is effectively no mechanism in the international community or no institution ' or at least no actually functioning um dimension of such institution that would protect palestinians, not just from the current genocide that is being carried out in gaza, but in general of the satter colonial policies, the apartite regime and the military occupation, so the question really is, what are palestinians uh supposed to do, and there are obviously the israeli regime, just by existing in the current structures in which it exists, it continues to violate several un resolutions a daily. so and if we again look into history, there is no um movement, there is no indigenous people that has been liberated by uh, by waiting for the
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un to intervene or by having peace so-called peace talks and negotiations with their oppressor while they are being a victim of genocide, and so of course the armed struggle, and in fact we also need to, you know, maybe talk about to what extent the armed resistance is also the... form of self-defense for palestinians, because other question would also be, where would what would have happened in gaza if there wasn't hamas, if there wasn't an actual armed uh group, palestinian armed group that is uh fighting against the uh colonial oppression, and um so very much as much as there are un resolutions, there is international law and the international community, we see in the last now uh six weeks, how weak all of these mechanisms are there actually. put in place to protect people and to protect so-called human rights and people's existence and how this cannot be applied uh to palestinians so the question really is what what other than
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armed resistance uh could palestinians uh rely to even merely survive in this situation uh when the war in yemen was happening elijah magn my last question to you uh you had uh obviously the us complicity in that war and we know the way that the us supported uh saudi arabia. when it came to uh the war and of course that uh how many uh yemenis died as result um the us in this case with israel is doing the same um and some are saying well the us is now complicent in war crimes but it did before it did so in the past i mentioned the war in yemen and also other wars um recently in the past days you had 100 state department and us aid employees who said that israel is committing war crimes and you also had that um senior state department official the resigned. saying that you know um the us is just providing uh israel with the military arms and arsenal that is committing war crimes so the question is uh is the us a
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corner when it comes to this, is this time different? um, given the fact that we have also seen how protests are broken out in so many us cities? it is important for the audience to understand that nothing has changed really, what the us is trying to communicate to us, is they have kind of democracy, which is really untrue, because if we look at what former president barack obama, when he came out. just few days ago, and he said the pictures coming from gaza are unbearable. he was just white washing the decision of the of his friend and his member the party of the democratic party, joe biden and his administration for their unlimited support to israel, because they are facing an election that is coming up next year, and when they leak information about differences
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at the state. department again show that they have this kind of false democracy, but in fact no, nothing is changing, all right, very well, we got to end it, thank you so much, that's elijah magneer, journalist and political analyst from brussels and thank you daniel, author and researcher from bairoots, with that we come ton for this edition of the spotlight fromway and the team, this goodbye.
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you're pressing the headlines, 42 days into this really war on gaza, more palestinians lose their lives in intense air strikes by the regime. noccupied westbank five palestinians are killed in an israeli drone strike in the city of jany. and people fill the streets in europe and elsewhere in the world and show solidarity with palestinians.
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