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and of course fraw huse, thank you for your input, it's great some of the uh things that you did say there, journalist, author and activist there from antalia, with that we come to an end for our uh news, you can always find out more on our website,pressv.ir. as usual, do stay with us international news is coming your way at half past the hour, it's bye-bye for now. this is for the child that is searching for renovance, this is not just a war of stolen land, why do you think little boys are throwing stones and we'll never really know how many people are dead, they drop bombs on innocent girls while they sleep in their bed, israel is the terror state, the terrorists that terrorize, i'll testify my television televise, i'm telling lies, how many more resolutions have to be violated, how many more children have to be annihilated, this is not a war, it is systematic genocide, but whatever they try, palestine hello, i'm chris
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williamson and this is palestine declassified where we investigate the israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally occupied people of palestine. while israel's occupation forces are perpetrating genocide in gaza. the zinish propaganda machine has gone into overdrive. leading politicians are behaving like tel aviv's lap dogs, while corporate media hacks have been enthusially reciting ziny's talking points at nausian, but their efforts are falling on deaf ears as far as the general public is concerned. latififa has been examening zinist efforts to influence public discourse by radicalizing young jews and the renter crowd tactics they've been deploying on college campuses and social media. genocide is a difficult crime to cover up and a difficult.
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crime to justify, which is why zionists expend considerable resources training recruits to be impervious to human feeling, in logic or evidence. here is harvard professor ruth weise, extolling the virtues of radicalization of young jews from the point of view of the zionist state. our job is not to make you look good, american jews, what do you have to worry about? your job is to make of us look good, and here's how you do it, every one of us has to serve three years in the army, two. years in the army, some of us five years, and then for the rest of our lives, you have got to serve two or three years in the army of words, you've got to learn to fight the political battle, which is even more important at this point than the military battle. there are many ways in which the army of words is supported by the regime. israel underfire provides guidance, advising that do share images of the hostages, do share photos of our soldiers in humane moment? do not explain israel's policy, the
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issue here is not the israeli palestinian conflict as a whole. it is very difficult for us to win there. do not respond to anti-israelis who seek to draw the discourse into a discussion about the israel palestinian conflict as a whole. instead, focus on the hostages, the elderly and children, the pain and suffering injured here. the killing fields for the army of words is the overall context of the conflict as... settle colonialism, ethnic cleansing and genocide, and so they try and recruit from the grassroots. back in 2009, at the global forum for combatting anti-semitism, they proposed the fight needs to be horizontal, not hierarchical. what we used to in call grassroots, empowering college students to get involved using their skills, their media, their networks to push back. the fight should be hysterical. in 2002, a hazbara handbook advised students that... when
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leveling the charge of anti-semitism is difficult. it is often worth expressing personal upset, saying that one was hurt as a due by the controversial act. hysteria is backed up with large quantities of cash. the israel on campus coalition was busted for offering $250 to students to turn out for the 14th of november pro-genocide rally in washington dc. social media influences were also offered up to five. to support israel, this was an email received offering me $5,000 to go live and show my support for israel, but no amount of money can change the reality of the ongoing genocide in ghaza and no army of words can erase the struggle of the palestinians for liberation and decolonization. as always, we're joined by our resident expert david miller, david is academic and a former professor at bristol university, and he's now non-resident senior research fellow. at the center for islam and
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global affairs at istanbul zaium university. he's also a co-director of the lobby and watch dog spinwatch and he's a leading british scholarly critic of israel. our guest today is lee camp who joins us fire. skype from new york. lee is an american comedian as well as a writer, podcaster, journalist and news commentator. he's the most censored comedian in america, and was the host and head writer of the popular show reductor tonight on rt america for eight years, before it was closed down by the us government following russia's special military operation in ukraine. he now hosts the dangerous ideas show on rumble. lee is jewish and went a so-called birthright trip to israel when he was 26 years old. and saw at first hand exactly how it manipulates young people. welcome to the show. david, i mean this term genocide now is pretty ubiquitous isn't it to uh describe what's happening in gaza. i mean, what difference do you think the onslaut on gaza has made to the conversation about the occupation of palestine? well, the mask has
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slipped, on the one hand, people see everyday children, babies being dragged from the rouble dead and dying or having limbs amputated on the... on the other hand, israely leaders and zionist leaders have uh made huge list of genocidal statements, the human animals, the unhuman animals, we must wipe them all out, there are no civilians in gaza, all of these are patently genocidal statements and people in the world see that, people didn't really realize i think before that how genocidal zionism is, of course it's always been that way, back to the beginning, 1948, the ideology has always been. has to be genocidal in order to force out the native population, which is the palestinians, but people i think didn't realize the full magnitude of the the the genocidal nature of zionism, but they do know, and that jinny cannot be put back in his box, no, indeed. well, lee, i mean, what do you make of ruth
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wees asserting that american jews have a duty to directly support israel and synism? yeah, it's it's really an admission, it's an admission. that the truth, the reality on the ground is not favorable to israel, it's it's horrific, it's an oppressive apartide has been for years and years, uh, and even before october 7th you had people being shot by the idf a regular basis, targeting of journalists, hospitals, medics, uh, it's just been a terrible in so many ways, we talk a lot about hostages, that israel had 5,00 hostages before october. they've now stolen kidnapped another 5,000 so they're over 10,000 palestinians imprisoned actual in in jails, not just the open air prison of gaza, and so she's saying you, your job is to lie to act like this is okay, your job is to lie
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to defend genocide right now, and to me, it it really is a massive admission, and the other thing is she's doing what i hate when do which is conflating being jewish with being zionist, these are not the same thing, being zionist means you support the apartite of israel, being jewish, there are many anti-zionist jews like myself, and top of that, there are more christian zionists in america than there are jews in the world, so it's nonsense, yes, indeed, indeed, indeed, and i think your point about hostages is is well made, lee, i mean, many of the people that have been snatched off the street are in what's called. the administrative detention people just kind of locked away in israeli dungeons with no due process, no even charge being brought before them, mean that clearly it seems to me is very much hostage situation, but david you know latif described a report or what she described in a report, is a is kind of process of radicalization
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isn't it? yes, and what we see here is the attempt to radicalize jews outside occupied palestine in the us, in the uk, wherever there's an organized zist movement to radicalize them, so they will support genocide, either through the army of words, fantastic phrase uses there, in in in the us, the uk or elsewhere, or in the actual army of the occupation inside occupied palestine, of course we know that there are many british jews, american jews, others who've come from those countries into occupied palestine to serve in the occupation forces and many of them are currently they are engaged in the actual genocide, so that's a whole whole process which people have. didn't really recognize, we've talked before on the show about radicalization, and people look at this as a little scance and they say, well it's not, it's not really, but now of course we see there are people from the streets of britain currently killing palestinians in gaza, and that if anything is radicalization,
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no indeed, well leave, i mean the the the zionist lobby seems to spend lot of money on creating guidance on fighting the propaganda war, i mean what do you think that tells us? yeah, it tells us that people don't naturally endorse genocide, you have to pay them, you have to pressure them. david, i mean, how do you interpret this parent strategy of of using fake grassroots groups and? schooling them to to fain hurt and and to act hysterically. well, this is just as lee is saying, this is a an admission of weakness. they can't have millions of people coming out in the streets spontaneously supporting the genocide in palestine, because of course those people are all on the other side of the argument, they have to instead pay them $250 a piece to appear at this demonstration in washington dc. who knows what the full budget was for that? $4,00 people would cost you million dollars. but of course the other question. is not just the paying of people on social media or or in in demonstrations, but
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also this schooling of them in what to say and to say, even if you can't show this antisemitism in a particular question that you're engaged and you have to see your hurt as a due to imply the some form of anti-semitic or anti-jewish uh speech going on, so it's just exactly as we've seen with this, this confected nonsense about the slogan, from the river to the sea, palestine will be free, as if the hurt or worry that people feel about that, which of course is largely fabricated, as if that could be matched against the 4,800 dead children in gaza in the last month, i mean these um cashing centers for for demonstrations and social media influences seem to seems to uh indicate a degree of of desperation doesn't it by the by the zinish regime, do you think they'll be embarrassed about being exposed with about this information? i think they're singularly on. embarrassable, and i think what's interesting about this is that you see them, the mask slipping, genocidal
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statements, at the same time as them school and recruiting people for their demonstrations etc., but what we haven't i think properly understood is that the genocidal statements don't just mean they are telling the truth about their ambitions for gaza, they also indicate they're telling the truth, something about their ambitions beyond gas, they want to, as some of them have been saying, they want to have lebanon and syria and jordan as part of a greater israel, parts of egypt even they would want back as well, and that that is what's going on here, so they they've damascus slipped as far as we're concerned, we see the genocide, but what they've got in their mind is eliminating the palestinians and moving beyond palestine to take part of lebanon and syria, and jordan, etc., and that's the real aim of of zinism, and we all to understand that. no, indeed. well, well we'll come back to the... shortly after this report about the british simonist movement support for israel's war crimes and
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the fact that you came here to do that, it is not only the british government that's directly supporting the killing in gaza, but there are also significant members of newly visible cohort of what we might call british zionists for genocide. they are everywhere in the organized jewish community, which is overwhelmingly zionist. british zionist organizations have been. over themselves to pledge support for israel after the start of the genocide on the 7th of october. the jc published a list of groups for readers to donate money to help israel. the main zianist groups have all rally to support the zinist entity in its full genocidal splendor. for example, the zionist federation, the united jewish israel appeal, the jewish national fund, each of which are core elements of the zinis movements. the way i cope with it. is by making cakes and goods for soldiers, even
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many synagoges are supporters of zionist extremism. here is the united synagogue promoting a youth settler who, while in the uk is helping to build support for the occupation forces which are directly engaged in genocide. i'm looking forward to coming back to you guys and tell you what, we've managed, we won. the united synagogue is the largest of five main synagogue movements in the uk, catering largely to ashkanazi jews, often described as modern orthodox. it proudly claims to be zionist its website. meanwhile, the jewish chaplin at least university in the north of england has been circulating videos of himself in occupation forces uniform claiming that no one could deny that israel is dealing with this war with the utmost morality and good ethics. what israel is trying to do is is destroy the evil, which is the most moral thing possible.
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all such chaplins are chosen by the university jewish chaplincy, an organization which has charitable status. how many more chaplins are attempting to radicalize young jewish students by promoting genocide. the university jewish chaplincy is member of the jewish leadership council and the board of deputies, both avoud pro israel groups. they also get some support from other extremist supporters of the genocide in gaza such as the convicted fredster and founder of the cst, gerald ronsen, via the gerald and gail ronsen family foundation. property developer, david gore of monopro, which made 4 million pounds in profits last year via the elikarch foundation, his charitable venture. it also donates to the islamophobic henry jackson society and various interfait groups dedicated to zinis penetration of the muslim community. the wolfton family who own the
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retailer next via the charles wolfston charitable trust. it has a history of donating to islam. phobic think tanks and the jerusalem foundation, which is directly involved ethnic cleansing in palestine. of course, the radicalization of jewish youth in the uk to recruit them to join the genocidal israel occupation forces as foreign fighters, is a core element of british zionist strategy. the so-called lone soldier program for 16-year-olds and above, is promoted to young jews on campus and even in schools. one participant was the... daughter of the revisionist zionist extremist david collier who is a core part of the zionist regime's troll network in the uk. he has recently traveled to occupied palestine to continue legitimizing genocide on behalf of the regime. zinism is not just a problem for the palestinians, it's a problem for every country with an organized zionist movement.
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david, have you been surprised by the extent of support. for the guys are genocide amongst british scientists? uh, i've not been surprised, no, because of course they they sort of have to do it, but of course it means that they have to abandon the previous liberal nicities which come along with their policies, which they try and suggest designism, is not necessarily racist thing, it's it can be about the yearning for a jewish homeland, and that it's difficult to to push that kind of line when babies are being dragged. dead from the rouble uh in gaza, so it's not surprising, no, but you you have seen a real outporing of support for this genocide in the pages for example of the jc where all the main yeah, the jewish chronicle, all the main lobby groups have taken out large adverts, many of them full page adverts, the jewish national fund, the udia, even we believe in israel, which of
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course is headed by luke hakurs, the former arms industry lobbist and labour party figure, so we've seen a huge outporing of support from the zinanis for this and it and it really compromises them because they can't any longer pretend that zinanism has nice face because they've all you abandoned all of that and gone straight into saying we stand with israel in the context of this ongoing genocide it it it really fundamentally undermines the the pretensions of zionism to make any kind of argument in a liberal democracy no indeed of course it's not just the british design is it i mean we're seeing across the pond. the united states, the us zinists kind of replicating the the scenario that we've seen in in britain, we of course, it's the same in the us, and it's the same, as the film says there, really, in every country where there is an organized science movement, and the the world siness organization for example has members federations in 35 different countries throughout latin america, india, australia,
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throughout europe as well, 35 countries where there's an organized science, of course that means organiz movements in the world outside of of the of the occupied palestine are in the us, the biggest one uh followed by the uk, france and germany, so it's important that we look at that those uh those areas that all those countries the z movements are doing the same kinds of thing, they're doing it because of course this talking points come from tel aviv, but their major effort is those places where they've got the largest uh concentrated organized science movement which is the us, the uk, also the places which of course uh are key to supporting the genocide as it's happening uh in palestine just now through the governments? no indeed. i get a sense and about you that um people are you sort of seeing through this kind of zinest facade you certainly how they weaponize antisemitism and so on and you think um anecdotally what my my sort of take on what's
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happening is that there's been a you know massive upsurge in support for the palestinian people and lot more. them actually about the the sort of zich tricks, is that your sense of what's what's going on? absolutely, mean you think back in this country in the uk to the period of communism where the ability to say straightly in a factual way, look this is a silen's trick, you could say that, but the number of people who would believe that and go along with that, would nod, yeah i can see that is way less than it is now everybody sees it, they see the genocide, that's why millions of people are on the streets, 1.2 million. said last week in london and across the whole of the world, 300 cities in the same day uh are demonstrating against the genocide and the word genocide as i've said, the word genocide is trips off people's tong, everyone. see that this fits the definition of genocide and that's what it is, and so yes they have they have fundamentally compromised their ability to win the argument, and that's because you
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know in the end what they're doing is genocide and they can't cover that up, it's it's it's visible for everyone to see, no, indeed, indeed, and just going back to the to the to the package we we just watched there, mean this this university jewish chaplency, that that recruits settlers and and zist military reservists, a chaplin, mean a chaplin's. "i was shocked, does it, does it shock you? well, it doesn't shock me because let me tell you why, and and the reason is that when i was at the university of bristol, remember the secret me in october 21, yeah, when i was there, the ch the chaplin, the husband and wife team who was the jewish chaplin, were advertised on the university website as having come from israel, and i was a little curious about this, and i worked out where they came from, they came from illegal settlement in the west bank, and so that i never said anything about it at the time because of course." was in the middle of being of investigation of course, so there we are, there's an example, people from an illegal settlement ministering to young jewish, allegedly vulnerable jewish students
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uh and you know the kind of propaganda that they would be laying down for them can only be imagined, if we already have seen in this example from leads, the the this guy from the occupation forces in uniform talking about it being the most moral way to most more way to kill children and babies, mean he doesn't put it in that those terms, but that's what he's talking about. and this is stuff he was circulating to ordinary jewish students at league university and of course his work and his wife were uh were used across universities in in yorkshire four or five different universities around about leads also subject to this kind of propaganda now we we haven't had any word from the us university jewish chapellancy about the extent to which this is a policy that they make sure that they have people from the occupation forces or settlers who are jewish chaplins and or people from occupy palestine becoming chapins, but it it looks like it's not something which they they they forbid or any way uh look look a scance upon, and of course you can tell from the the people who
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support it that that that wouldn't be what they would think, so the convicted froster ronson, charles wilson charitable trust, the family who own next, big huge supporters of of islamophobia and indeed of of the jerusalem foundation for example, which is engaged in in land left and house demolitions uh east jerusalem, so these are all organizations which which all support the genocide, mean um uh general ronson of course comes from pedigree of revisionist scienism, which is absolutely of peace with the cutnicks in charge of the current zionist government. yeah, well we we've got to lee back now, mean and lee, mean i just wondered whether you were surprised to hear that chaplin. telling students that israel's actions in in gaza are the most moral thing possible, i mean david was just touching it in his once if you heard what david said, but
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what's your thoughtfully about that? it's unbelievable, it's gruesome, uh, it it reminds me of the hundred doctors that in israel that signed a uh open letter saying that they wanted the gaza hospitals bombed and 'i guess you know in any society you're going to have some sociopaths and some psychopaths and it seems like they've rounded them all up to try and endorse these these actions of just killing children indiscriminately and it's repulsive yeah i mean leah as well i mean what's your assessment of of how um us popular opinion is is shaping up on gaza i'm actually really impressed that the lot of people are waking'. up just thousands, i mean we've seen some of the largest free palestine marches that the u.s. has ever seen, hundreds of thousands in washington dc, um, also a recent gallop poll
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showed the democrats in across the united states for the first time ever side more with palestine than with israel, this has never happened, and so yeah, there's still a long way to go, but it shows that people are waking up and this israel's losing this propaganda war, no matter how much effort and money, how many people they'... to show up at rallies, they're losing it, and they really, they've awoken sleeping giant by committing this genicide. no, indeed, i mean, and you're getting certainly in the united kingdom, unprecedented numbers of people on the streets and from what you're saying, lee, it looks like very similar situation over over there, and we're seeing this really right across the world, across europe and and everywhere, people absolutely horrified and outraged at what they are, seeing, but unfortunately, i'm afraid that we are out of time again, so we're going to have to leave it there, i want to thank. our guest lee camp and of course our resident expert professor david miller. palestine the classified will be back next week with more forensic investigations and analysis. in the meantime, you can follow the show on facebook, twitter
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