against when it comes to the two countries and um he uh also talked about the us support for the zionist regime and uh this unjust world that needs to be confronted so that the of press could be um obviously get their share and uh there needs to be a coalition to form to support palestine uh just some of the highlights there from uh the it's a very historic visit after 22 years the cuban president to have visited iran i'm sure there's lots of things that are going to be going on for him and and uh we will see how these two countries will obviously forge a closer relationship uh amongst each other. that brings us uh to the end for this live coverage thanks so much for being with us uh for now it's goodbye.

good evening everyone, my name is richard medhurst, joining me live from gaza is dr. basim naim, he is uh hamas, head of political and international relations. he also served previously as the palestinian minister of health in 2006 and the minister of youth and sports in 2007 and then later again as the minister of health for gaza. uh, dr. basomiin, thank you for taking the time to to join me for this interview. please, thank you very much. i i want to start out by asking you about. um the the media storm so you know in the west the the media is saturated with israel's point of view israel's propaganda about october 7th um israel made it sound like the hamas operation was only about targeting civilians and uh you know i i want to get your perspective i want to hear your point of view and and i want you to tell us what actually happened on that day because we only get one side of the story thank you very much for inviting me uh first of all our of

story with the international media in general and the western mainstream media in particular is very long long story. we have always asked all the journalists who have of visited gaza, we are not asking anyone to fabricate stories or to lie on behalf of the palestinians, what we are asking for is only to reflect reflect the reality on the ground, it is very very simple and easy, millions of palestinians in the ghaza strip and the west bank under occupation, israel is the ocupaying power, we are struggling to get rid of the cubation, this is very simple and clear and it is in accordance with the international law, unfortunately most of the time we have suffered not only of buys but sometimes of manipulated stories and lies from lot. of mainstream media in the west to

serve the israeli propaganda and unfortunately some some of the journalists were part of the haspara of this israeli propaganda machine, but anyway sooner or later we are we believe that all ordinary senble just people will know the truth and i think what happened on october 7th and after that was a great chance for lot of people to discover that they were for decades deceived or manipulated by these between brickets big media corporations on behalf of the israeli occupation what happened in october 7, first of all the story didn't start on october 7, i i think when secretary general of of the...

and when he said october 7th didn't didn't came from vacuum, yes he is, he is very right, we are talking about a brutal safage of occupation for more than 75 years after the nak, we are talking about 57 years of israel incubation on accubate territories of 67, we are talking of 17 years of suffocating sie on 2. 3 million palestinians in one of the biggest open air prison in one of the concentration camps so that it has turned, gaza was unlivable for years and years, most of the people in gaza are minors or children, 55% of our people are below below 16, 97% of our water is undrinkable, most of the hospitals cannot function in a proper way because of... lacking of medicine and

disposable and so on and soon i think again what what happened in october 7 is an active defense, we have tried to knock the... doors of this biggest prison that we are here, it is a cry that we are, we want to get rid of this, out of this prison, and therefore it is an act of defense against the ocupaying power, this is on one side, the other one, i think we have all the right in the international law to resist the occupation by all means available, including on resistance, and this has been... the story of algie, this has been the story of the people in vietnam, this has been the story of the people in south africa, everywhere, everywhere people have the right to resist and to defend themselves, therefore all what's happening before and after october seven is an act of defense, we are the victims of a brutal

barbaric incubation, now at the operational level, i think after few minutes of launching this this operation, we have heard the speech of muhammad, he is the chief commander of al-kassam brigade, he was clear, we have launched this operation, to raise our voices against the operation, against the accupation, we are calling the international community to help us to get rid of this incubation, we cannot accept this, the continue, the continuation of this: situation, expansion of settlements, humilation of our prisoners, sie on gaza, the taking over of ala, mosk and all these very, very, very painful stories, and therefore we we have taken this action, second, he was

clear, you are not, you you are here, i mean, he is talking to the soldiers or to the fighters, you are here only to in the context of an a military operation targeting military compounds and soldiers and you you are not allow to attack or to target or to harm any the of any of the civilians. despite between brackets, most of the civilians, they are living in kibootses and settlements around the gaza strip which is already part of the suffocating machine or apparatus around gaz strip, most of the... compounds are in inside these settlements or these key boots. anyway, this was at that time, we have defended our story in the first few days in very hard way because of the israeli propaganda which has

adopted unfortunately by the international community mainly in the west, in particular in the united states when they have talked about the headed babies and raving of women on so. and so on, and we have said it clearly, we we are not sure, this is this does not happen, we at that time we were, we don't have the the the final story, because our fighters, some of them killed, some of them wounded and the others have been arrested, but we are sure this is not our moral values, we we cannot expect that any one of our guys can commit such crimes of raving women or beheading children and i am sure now after 45, 46 days a lot of these propaganda have been have has been proven to be fabricated or or lies, no beheaded babies, no raving of woman, even what we have heard

two two three days ago, the investigation of harits and the police, the israeli police itself, who has proven that the most of the civilians, including 200 of our people, have been killed and burned in inboots by the israeli jets, and again i think this is part the very long story how the mainstream with the in the in the west is is is simply taking the israeli propaganda and distributing it everywhere. yeah, doctor, can i ask you about um the targeting of hospitals, the targeting of schools, "you know, um, the the the secretary general of the united nations, he he said that more journalists and un workers have been killed uh, since october 7th in gaza than than any previous wars, um, he he he said that uh, you, he described the images we're seeing from gaza as as killing of civilians that is unparalleled and

unprecedented in any conflict since he took the job, can you, can you talk to us about the humanitarian aspect of it, about um, the the targeting of civilians, how do people in gaza feel as this is? when we talk about the people, the people are very, very disappointed because they feel that they are, they have been left alone to to this. very brutal aggression so that on air we have we, the palestinian themselves, we have read about such stories during the nak 1948, how the israelis have killed hundreds and thousands of palestinians and destroyed more than 530 cities and villages to expel forcefully palestinians from their land. but at that time there was no social media, no facebook, no twitter, no before, but what we

what we are witnessing today that these genocides, these war crimes, these ethnic cleansing is committed on air, live, you can see every minute a massacre against a school, a shelter, hospital, the residential areas, look, i think what the israels have committed unfortunately, not only with the green light from the americans and the european countries, but only with the participation, most of our people are killed by american weapons, by european weapons. all what they are committing is out of two excuses, the first one, the desire of revenge, simply the desire of revenge, they didn't the... they didn't behave or they were not able to behave as a state, they have behaved as a gang who

is out of control and he want to destroy everything regardless okay, he he he behaved as a spoiled boy, he was already for 70 years behaving as a state or as an entity above the law, as as a rug state, now after october 7th he has taken all the power. to commit all these crimes with the full green light from the west and the full support at all levels, politically, diplomatically, and military wise, this is one, the second one was, we believe and we have also informations, it is not analysis, we have already had plans in headen plans, how to get rid as much as they can of the palestinians out of the historical palestine. can i can i ask you about that? can i ask you about this? i will talk about this later, but mean and therefore, therefore

immediately on the first day this was announced as one of the main goals okay, you want to fight or to punish hamas, but why you are announcing publicly that one of the goals how to get rid of the palestians and how to push them to the south and to the sai? because this was bland already. it has nothing to do with october 7 and if they succeed here and gaza they will go to the west bank and forcefully expell or displace millions of palestinians to the other side on jordan and this therefore when when they have faced the commitment or how palestine and simple palestinians men and women and children how they are committed to their homeland how they are... taking to their houses and they don't want to leave, despite of all bombardment, they have started to

destroy anything which can give these palestinians any help to live here, hospitals, schools, beccaries, municipalities, water, wells everything which can give the palestinians any help to survive here has been destroyed, most of the hospital now in the in other city only one hospital which is the baptis hospital or ahly hospital is still functioning, but after the attack at the beginning of the aggression, the big the most famous attack against the baptist hospital it is is functioning a very limited level, other hospitals are out of function, which means we have yesterday and the the two days before we have witnessed a forceful evacuation under the... and supervision of thousands of wounded and renal dialysis

patients and all these patients to the to the to the south, instead of helping them to stay there, to stay here and to bring them their needs as renal dialysis patients or as wounded people or as diabetic patients or or new born in incubators, they have transferred all these newborn i mean who has survived, lot of them, many of them have been killed to day in the evening they have targeted for the second time at the indonesian hospital directly and killed doctors, nurses, health workers, including this place people inside. hospital and casualties, but someone who have those who have have been survived, they have been taken with buses under the supervision the un to the, mean the un is supervising a war crime, because a forceful displacement of people from their areas, from their houses to

another areas and water is a war crime, anyway the the main goal is to destroy anything which any tool which can help palestinians to live here in this area, therefore they have destroyed most of the hospitals and the rest of the hospital which which not which does not or which hasn't been destroyed directly, it is out of function because of lacking medicine, lacking fuel, lacking water, they cannot continue, therefore what is committed in gaza is a is a clear. ethnic cleansing is a war crime, is genocide, again, unfortunately this time on air, everyone around the globe can witness this massacre, doctor, i i want to ask you about this point, because the israelies as as you mentioned, the they've you talked about distributing uh people in gaza to the sinai

desert and to other countries, netanyahu made it clear this is not about hamas, he wants to seize the whole ghaza strip and today uh the israeli outlet harits, they they reported that the israelis and americans are talking about extracting gaza's gas. i published myself several reports on this topic that gaza is in a very geostrategic location. do do you feel that part of the reason why israel is carrying out uh what is being called the genocide uh is is to steal gaza's resources to build this benguurion canal and and things of that nature. this could be part the plan, but look, two or three months ago netanyahu was in the un and he in front of the whole world, he raised the plan of palestine and he said within the within this area between the river and the sea, there is other political entity except palestan. to have a purified or a pure jewish state here

means we have to expel as much as they can palestinians out of these territories. have said it also clear, palestinians have one of two choices, either to leave the country or to be killed, this is the these are the choices in front of palestinians, therefore i think the main goal is to evacuate as much as they can palestinians from the historical palestine to send them to sina, to the jordan, because in paris has said it clearly the the the the home of palestina is is jordan, alternative home or some some now are talking about distributing palestinians to different european countries and to canada and to america, each country can take 200 thousand, 300 thousand with lot of attractive offers, look, they will not succeed, i think

if you are following now this aggression for more than 45 years and you have seen palestinian who have lost everything family three generation, grandfather, father and son, three generations, thousands of families are wiped out from the civil registry, and the spite of this, the anyone who is, succeeded to survive, he say, i will not leave, i am not ready first of all to repeat. the scene of nak again after 75 years, we palestinans, we know exactly what does it mean to be a refugee here or there, how much our citizens suffering today in a lot of countries around the world and arabic countries, islamic countries, therefore this is not a choice, we we have given the israel

is two choices, either to live free or to die in dignity, other choice. this is our choices, either to live free or to die in dignity, but we are not leaving our homeland, and we are sure that we at the end we will succeed to defeat this enemy and to reach and to gain our freedom, dignity and independence. doctor, how do you feel about the support, how do people in gaza feel about the support they've received from hazballah, from the resistance access in syria, iraq, yemen. look, first of all, i'm talking honestly, this operation, i mean the tofansa operation is pure palestinian operation, i mean i'm talking about. planning and implementation and all what's happening after that, but at the same time we have called for support, why israel have the right to get

support from super powers and big countries in europe and america everywhere, and also we have to call for support from our arabic and islamic countries, to to be honest, the main support which is solid support, we have... support, mean i talking about public support, media support, financial support from different countries and the region and outside the region, but the most year crucial and solid support came from these countries, i am talking about from hizbullah and lebanon, from our brothers in yemen, from our from iraq and other countries because we believe. that this is the only way to to to deter the the equipation from expanding or

continuing this operation until now unfortunately this turning point isn't happen but we are sure that soon or later he when he feel that he is losing lot and he is he is failing to achieve any of these goals because look after 45 years he didn't he didn't achieve any of his goals? nothing. okay, he killed thousands of innocent people, children, he destroyed hospitals, he destroyed the schools, but this is not a achievement, you cannot talk about the super regional power like israel, that the maximum achievement they can do to destroy a hospital or to kill thousands of children and women. he said, i want to this to crush hamas. and if you follow up the media up to the 45th day still the resistance is attacking it in a

very strong way publicly with photos with videos, he is he was he failed to push palestinians to the other side, mean to sai, he failed to again, he failed to achieve to achieve and he said i want to get rid all my mean the hostages or the the prisoners in the hands of the resistance until now he failed to get any one of them by by yeah by except and under the condition of the resistance right we said we are ready to release x or y this number or that number with these conditions and at the end of the... day he was obliged to accept this condition,

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the headlines this hour, iranian president says the country subject to us sanctions can counter such unilateral measures through mutual cooperation. israel presses ahead with this indiscriminate strikes across gaza, killing more civilians as the death f from the regime's attacks exceeds 15,500. anilent's armed forces say that they have targeted two israeli ships in the red sea response to the regime's genocide in gaza.