tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV December 9, 2023 10:02pm-10:29pm IRST
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hello and welcome to press tv spot, thanks so much for being with us, tell..." me, name me one more nation, any other nation that's doing as much as the united states to alleviate the pain and suffering of the people of gaza, you can't, you just can't. believe it or not, this was said by us national security council spokesman john kirby, it is so outrageous we could even laugh if it wasn't for the fact that the reality is so dark and completely opposite, and that it is, the united states is doing all can to increase the pain, to increase the suffering of the people of gaza and is responsible. for the murder of over 17,700
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people, we're going to talk and look at this on spotlight. i like to welcome my guests to the program. elijah, mac, journalist and political analyst out of brussels and daniel, of author and researcher out of beirot. well thank you both for being with me, well let me start this off uh with elijah, now it is as if everything is being made mockery of, for example, the us is alleviating the suffering of the people of gaza, just like international law isn't really a reality, i mean how do you see all of this, elijah? we have seen that the united nations yesterday how 13 countries supported the human. because
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it is called humanitarian sease fire, while the uk, one of the closest us ally abstained and the us just rejected the vote, and that... means how much us is indeed supporting the genocidal killing and murdering of the children and women in gaza, the destruction of the infrastructure, the v of international laws and the committing work crimes and crimes against humanity. that is undoubtedly the participation, direct participation of the us to all the genocide that is happening in gaza, and the americans really don't care. "now what is important here is the awareness of the population around the world can no longer swallow any of the american narrative that they are working for peace because they prove to be unworthy of being a partner for peace. we've seen how
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president vladimir putin was received in the emirate and saudi arabia, one of the very close allies to the us, how he received president ibrahim raisi in moscow." and the strategic relationship, because another word, another model is forming itself, because the hegomany of the us is no longer valid, is no longer human, it is supportive of the is really zionist killing of a small population a very small, tiny area of palestine, and it's still talking about the possibility of having two state, which is another mockery. so i don't think the americans care really about the humanitarian aspect of this conflict, nevertheless they still have the guts to come out and say, like secretary blincan said few days ago, that he determined that in sudan there is violation of
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humanitarian laws, which means these people are completely cut off from the reality, and they have lost all the sensibility toward humanity, so there is nothing to be done about. americans, this is why there is need of new system, a worldwide system where the americans cannot veeto humanitarian aspect like these f gaza. yes, indeed, the hypocrisy is absolutely amazing. well, daniel, you you take on how the united states, i mean could even veto um this un resolution that was urging immediate humanitarian sefire in gaz. i mean, what does it mean? at least before, "there was a some simblance, they wanted to show a little simblance of um trying to be fair, whether they were or not, there was a cover, but but it seems as if now they don't care, they absolutely don't care, your take, i agree, it really seems like they don't care, and all they don't have to care,
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because we are now in the third month of the genocide and the zist regime is getting away with uh killing more and more palestinians and continuing live on camera for the entire world to watch this genocide without any intervention." and the one power that could immediately stop this genocide is the united states and it's continuing to not just be complicit but to support the genocide because at the end of the day the united states is not only a sponsor into sponsor proxy relationship with television with the zionist regime also palestinians are victims of a dide that is being carried out by the west if we talk about the united european union and their allies because of course these were the existence of the israeli regime depends on this external aid uh and continuous support that it receives from uh the west, so of course it is to some extent in the us interest to uh keep the situation going at the same time there's of course no justification and the united states in the current political discourse it's employing keeps using the same words pretending as it was to some extent concerned about human
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rights and the international law in other situations but not in palestine which also again shows us that zionism is part and parcel of us foreign policy and to some extent political identity and zionism can only uh exist uh through these genocidal actions and at the same time palestinians are not considered uh human necessarily, they are not considered in this discourse as human beings would be uh worthy of this elementary protection that could be extended to them under international law. right, well elijah, as israel calls for northern gaza to be exclusive for palestinian, the us looks the other way, i mean is there any way that israel could do what it is doing without the help and approval of the united states? absolutely not. first of all, it is not only the approval. we've seen the americans supporting the israelis by sending 4500 bombs. today, the pentagon approved of
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sending 14 thousand tank shells from their strategic warehouse. they are direct participant to the genocide. secondly, the americans from day one. secretary blincon came to israel and said, "i am not here representing the us government, i am here as a jew," like if the war was a religious one, which indicates the idiotic. level of this narrative, it is a conflict that has been going on for the last 75 years about the right of land of territory, it is not about the religion. thirdly, joe biden, when he arrived to the us, he had a press conference saying, you have the legitimacy and the right to do what you are going to do, so he gave him the full authority to benjamin netanyahu to do what he's wanting. do and the last point here i would like to point out is prime minister benyamin netanyahu coming out on
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television yesterday and saying to the world threatening world if you take os in front of an international court you are antisemite if you do that you are holocaust denial if you try to incriminate us you are genocidal denial you are jew hater so he basically said to the wholeway if you want to keep your position where you are, you have to stand by us and stop all this nonsense about the war crime and crimes against humanity, because we have the right to do whatever we want, and all the content of benjamin netanyahu say from the first days, don't lecture us, we going to cut water, electricity, everything, so they have recognized all the crimes against humanity publicly on television, careless about the world reaction and all the internet. national law, geneva convention, the h, all the law that are in place,
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including the united nations articles and protection of civilians, including the palestinians, so we see this is no complicity, it is a direct action in the killing of the palestinian, and top of that, the americans are, they have 2000 delta forces in israel supporting the israelis, they are flying drones, they are giving ' bridge between the united states and israel to supply all the weapons, they are working from cyprus with the bridge to monitor and support israel with intelligent information, they are direct participant in everything, so we say saying with you elisha, just really quick, so what you say, this is actually a war, the united states war against the palestinians, it is indeed, and the palestinian, the the americans will only call of his. for sess fire when israel w. this is my experience in all the war that israel has
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in lebanon against the palestinians. when the israelies are ready, then the american will be ready to accommodate them at the united nations. yes, get dan back on this discussion. what about that? do you agree with elijah said is it when israel is ready or is it when the united states is ready that israel will follow suit? mean we're - trying to figure out who's leading whom here, because the united states definitely not only. supports the regime diplomatically, politically, militarily, and and constantly showing it and non apology, so how do you see it? exactly, it's a good question, who is actually having more influence over women, so of course, if we look into the history of zionism, the colony itself is always intended as a european outpost in this part of the world would only be able to exist with external power, and the united states is a main sponsor of these regimes, so on the one side the... assistance of the israel regime is tied to this continuous us support, and then the question again is, to what extent
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does this support of the genocide and the actual carrying out of the genocide by the united states against the palestinians is in the strategic interest of the united states, because it is destroying lot of its already fragile reputation that it had left in some parts of the region, and it is really if we even look at currently in the last two months, the worldwide including in the west, the protest in support of palestine, it has become um one could argue more visible than ever uh what the actual situation is in terms of settler colonialism and genocide, and the united states is very clearly showing that it's standing at the wrong side uh of uh history, but then of course we need to take into crederation, the political power of zionism in the united states uh that has lot of influence on decision makers and policy makers and isn't working necessarily in the favor of the american people, so it is uh at the antipol political elite of both the sponsor which is the us and the the colony and the proxy that the zionist entity is that
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are working together, but of course the israeli regime does have a certain extent influence on the us, but we should also not forget that in fact joe biden, the us president has throughout the decades stated that he is a zionist, he's very proud of being a zionist and said that israel had not existed, the us have to create an israel, so it is, i would say... interest from both sides in which the us remains politically the the stronger part, well the latest v by the us comes a backdrock the regime's failure in aching any of its objectives including freeing its captives and destroying the palestinian resistance more than two months into the devastating war on god. mean, your assessment of all of this, when we look at the situation at hand, so far in 64 days the israel have achieved nothing, they have 10000 men, they have 400 tanks and they have
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managed to occupy part gaza. now there is a difference between occupying and controlling, occupying meaning... able to break into the territory and controlling being able to control it and stop all resistance, which is not the case. the israelis are losing every day between five to 15 officers and soldiers, they are losing tanks and arm v, they are every single day having very high casualties, they are hit in the half of the north that they have occupied 50 days ago, so they have in control nothing of gaza, they don't... understand for example in north as shaja, it is called because it derives from the arab word of shaja that is courageous, they are the most courageous people in gaza that are fighting them today and inflicting very heavy damage on the israel, so we see israel has achieved nothing of its objective, try to liberate one of the soldier prisoners that
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have failed, end up killing the soldiers and losing two lives, so everything israelies are doing today, they are extremely embarrassed. in front of their people, they have lost to according to the information from irs today 500 men wounded, if this is true, and if it's not if it is the complete number, which always doubtful because you really don't release all the figures, so in urban fighting we have at least 200 soldiers killed if we have 500 wounded, so so far they have lost much more than what they have lost in 1967, and they are very close coming to what the... have lost in 1973 the war against four army, hamas defeated the unbreakable, the army that is invincible on the 7th of october and continue defeating it every single day, and this is why understand why these really are carpet bombing gaza and why they killing so many civilians, because this is the only thing they can achieve is to kill children
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and women, but when they are confronting with the man of gaza, they run away and they are... taking so many casualties, they are unable to advise advance in a area that is 12 kilometers wide and 41 long right, right? well daniel, when we look at the situation of the united states, we see instead of course the united states condeming the israel regime for its crimes, we see united states, the congress basically trying to make certain things illegal, trying to um say that zionism is the... as being being anti-sign is the same being anti-semitic, also we see movements trying to make from the river to the sea, palestine will be free, illegal, um, basically saying that when you say that you're actually calling for um the destruction of israel, while at the same time israelis are destroying gaza, i mean it's
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absolutely mind, your thoughts, i agree, and um, so we've seen that... also in recent years before the current episode of the genocide uh in which law makers in the us, but also in certain european countries to have uh tried to uh to criminalize uh descent uh to criminalize boycott against the israeli regime and to call the mere resistance of palestinians anti-semitic to an extent for even now we are in a situation which would be ridiculous, it went that dangerous where almost uh the not supporting genocide uh could get someone accuse of anti-semitism and this of course not palestinians and dehumanizes and demonizes and tries to portray the mere resistance as as something racist or evil, in fact is palestinians fighting against racism, because at the end the day palestinians in gaza are being guilt because they're not jewish, because they are not a part of this racial hierarchy that
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israel regime has constructed and at this time of course is dangerous because there is a history of anti-semitism with which had resulted including in the holocaust, so it is very dangerous to actually relativize historical developments and actually the existing forms of racism for a political gain that would marginalize palestinians and call people who are literally in concentration cap that gaza is being bombarded 24/7 uh calling themtic that is racist uh just for merely existing, i think is dangerous in many many ways and just another way of trying to silence people actually seeking justice, well elijah, i have about one minute, but i i your perspective, i give the situation at hand and everything that we have seen, is there? any alternative for palestinans in general, whether we're talking about gaza or the west bank, is there any other alternative except resistance? well, the palestinian resistance
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are still resisting, they're still very healthy, they have not stopped fighting, they haven't lost one single area, and the palestinians want to continue, they want the israelis to come into gaza, because that prevent the israeli from bombarding from a far and... destroying more homes and destroying the infrastructure, one the once the israelies are very close and going into the street of gaza, this is exactly where the resistance want them to inflict damage on the israeli, this is why they are taking so many casualties and they are starting to scream about the number of casualties because they are for the first time coming close to the resistance and this is exactly how the resistance will receive them and they really want them inside gaza but not on the periphery all right, i'm so sorry to interrupt you, but we're out of time, i appreciate that, both of you being with me, out of brusos and uh daniel out of uh beirut,
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the enemy army says all shifs destined for israel are legitimate targets, unless the need of food and medicine are allowed into gaza strap. in the statement, the spokesman for the yemini army warned all ships and shipping companies against dealing with. really port, the palestinians have been killed and scores more wounded and fresh is strikes on the gaza strip, including the series of h, meanwile the us has ve a un security council resolution which called for immediate team seasfire gaza.
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