tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV December 14, 2023 2:02am-2:29am IRST
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the general assembly has overwhelmingly voted in favor of a resolution that calls for immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian ceasefire in gaza, 153 nations. voted in favor, which is unprecedented in itself, similar to the us veta the un resolution for a cease fire, which again the us was isolated on the world stage. additionally, usi like the eu are pushing for sanctions against extreme israeli settlers in occupied territories. that combined with the us impatience with israel who said that israel's genocidal war is contributing to its isolation, which is reflective of a going swit between to. let's find out what our guest think, let me just them. lirie johnson
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is a former cia analyst who joined us from bratinton florida. john phoenix journalist and international relations expert joins us from london. johnson, let me first start with you. so you have uh the un uh general assembly that has voted for cease fire. you had 153 nations that voted in favor and uh that included also allies like france, australia and uh india and also canada. uh, what do you think about this vote where you have so many countries, even us allies that are breaking from the us when it comes to the us-israeli carnage that's happening uh in the gaza strip? at the when all said and done, it's not going to stop removal of the palestinians for gaza, unfortunately. um, this is, i you can appreciate that the growing sentiment against israel. genocide,
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buse that's what it is, is you know creating more pr problems for israel, but the reality is this, israel's destroying hospitals, they are targeting, destroying the schools, targeting and destroying the critical infrastructure for sewage, water, and no food distribution, nobody can live there, they're making it deliberately unlivable, and the world really is sort of figuratively sitting its hands even though voting to condem. israel, the're not steps that could be taken such as turkey, cutting off oil supply to israel, we're not doing that, so these uh, i'm a bit frustrated, i guess with what i'd call the the heated rhetoric, which is not being accompanied by actual action, all right, let me turn to you if i can, john phoenix, and ask you uh about why the world is watching in that uh, atmosphere where since for example, article 99 was invoked.
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the un secretary general, which the us used its veto, you had about 700 or 800 palestinians that have been murdered since then, we just had a report where you had some palestinians were shot at point blank range, and uh, you have so many other war crimes that are uh continuing to uh um happen at rather alarm pace, i might add, especially after the resolution that the us uses veto power, uh, there should be something that should prevent that, uh, what, what mechanisms there, what? is there that can that can do that? well, mean clear by looking at the vote which is 153 countries of devoted to immediate fire i think number one is the main player on the issue is united state government, especially obviously biden himself, the support of the the israel will not have a free to act in the barbarics that were the acting gaza without the umbrella united states and that's was from the vote
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that the whole country which is 153 voted immediately for sess fire and stop the genocides in gaza yet one vote which is veto america okay up the whole picture which is means that the united nation as other leaders in the past called reform it is not really fair that united states will united nation by just overcome 153 countries vote so they need number. reform for united nation, this is one important thing, second thing is that the israel will not behave this without knowing that even even the call for the the international court of justice, they should face crime charges, that's not going to happen, because the if you notice the chief executive of the international court of justice to come visit the israeli side and he refused to visit gaza and see the crimes and... the barbaric attack on the civilians,
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the killing of women and children, so they know they were not gna be called for an account, and sadly i had to be open with you, the only way to overcome this issue. is the keep the resistance of the palestinians, we seen that in vietnam, we see that in in in afghanistan, 30 years, the american run away from afghanistan, if you want to rely on institution like united nations, they are not gonna happen, the continuous resistance by the palestinians, that's the only way can stop this massacers, yet as somebody gna ask they are killing civilians, this is actually a covered. partic act by the zin if they wanted really to get rid of hammas they should hammas schools and hospitals as your honorable guest just mentioned king hospitals and schools and obviously bring the clinic
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the united nation school which use as a refugee as the palestinians sly believe this should be sing a school with the massive flag of... but but the israelis had no regard to anything, the only regard the israel is the resistance, as you see the l has been changed lately by the israeli top criminals and the so-called defense ministry about the situation in gaza. no, i'm very tempted to, and i'm going to go ahead and ask this question, larry, where, if you recall during the yemen war where there was a coalition in the beginning, this is usa one where the saudi coalition was bombing yeman. nine years uh many analysts that we had not only on this program but elsewhere that were cited as saying that if this war uh what if there was a will to stop this war the united states could do that with one phone call because it started in washington sure um i'm very tempted to ask you and i will ask you the question when it comes to this one i see that
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uh the us comes out making statements like a watch out for civilian casualties make sure you don't target women and children but at the same time there's an endless flow of what to israel which... to kill women and children, so i'm trying to get an explanation on that, if you maybe can assist me, well, look, the united states is enabling israel to do this, and if it's halted the shipment of the ammunition, the bombs, the artillery rounds and israel, we're going to cut off your economic aid, the war would stop, but it's not going to happen because the israeli lobby in the united states under the american israeli political action committee. is so strong that israel enjoys majority support among democrats and vast majority, overwhelming majority support among republicans, so politically it's just not a feasible option, but but that stop it in a heartbeat, when you when you observe what happened in yemen, once china intervened and
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brokered peace between iran and saudi arabia, that war came to an end, because the entire purpose of that war from the us standpoint, was try to weak iran and saudi up to the saudies up to that point had played along, but they stopped playing along once with the help of the intervention of china and and i believe russia, and that war stopped in instant, the killing stopped, the same thing could happen in palestine, but it's not going to happen because there is no political will to do so in the united states, despite the protests, there are some protests, there's some vocal uh groups, but uh they don't have enough power or cloud or... money to to shift the policy? well uh let me let me see here john, if i heard you correctly in the last statements that you made, you said that they should come and fight hamas instead of targeting hospitals, killing civilians, women, children, etc. as recent as just few days back you have the israely military spokes come out and said we're not too sure
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if how many hamas fighters we have actually uh uh taken out if this military does not how many hamas fights have taken out they have taken out then how how is it that they're continuing with what you said talking civilians, which is obvious when 70% of them are women and children amongst them, if they don't know whether they're progressing or not when it comes to this war? well, a whole tactic, and this is also a feris time, even if the whole text you inflict as much as you can harm and killing and obviously on the population, because they believe the population is the water for the... fish so get rid of the water, there this is policy that if you get rid of the water then you can catch the fish, but they have the whole obviously plans to attack the civilians caused really really harm as you seen now for the last 60 days through genocide killing the children woman destroy everything moves you
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that will actually force that's what the believe that's force hamas to give up and then other hand he told the gasans i think 10 days ago that if you be able to get sanwar is the leader of militant amazing will stop the ring, so they wanted the the throw the ball in the court of the civilians who got no power to do anything. other than just get killed and buried the children, so this is an old new game to inflect suffering on the civilians, which means that the fighters will be able to give, and obviously it's not gna happen, it's not gna happen, they keep saying from life to another that we killed this, we killed that, we have the talents, didn't know hamas, didn't know, it's a group, you know that on the militant issue i could be normal person at night. and day and our militant you know with the jeans and white shirt they they
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they don't know what they're doing there's no objective there is no plan political plann or military plan now the talk about obviously flooding that with water where is to them that's you know so so far we don't know from them how many hamas did you know 60 days but we know they they they killed thousands they killed 6000 children four and half women being slaughtered, you talk about nearly 8000 palestinians being slaughtered you know and and may nearly half of this obviously children, they destroyed the sixtive houses been destroyed, they want to destroy the whole strip hoping that the people will move out and be saying now we want to die here, they thought with this intense criminal act the people will run to egypt run to the sea, it's not happen. but as i said again and again, if they aim to kill hamas and get hamas, they should come man and fight hamas,
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not go sky with 16 and burning uh children midnight, this is really barbaric act, well uh from there to lary johnson to how uh the us president joe biden um is uh warning israel that it's going to become isolated on the international uh scene um uh and it's been described as biden delivering a rebuke. to netanyahu if it doesn't watch out for the scale of civilian casualties, i mean that's a mouthful, but how is it in terms of the way that this is described, buke from, i mean israel is isolated at this point, the numbers of palestinians that have been murdered speak for the souls, it's meaningless, i mean there's not, nahu doesn't care, the only thing that would capture the attention of netanyahu and the israelis is if joe biden instead of making some id
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and diplomatically, and yet it doesn't care, it's going to pursue this, and it's it's murderous policy against the palestinians without any regard for their lives, and uh, this is, this is the zionist vision, and they are pursuing it ruthlessly, and they're going to continue to do it until the palestinians are forced out of gaza, so it's not, it remains to be seen how long hamos can continue fighting, the the flicting number of casualties on these. occupation force, but
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israel still has time its side, and as long as it is not facing any kind of economic consequences for its actions, it's going to continue doing it. all right, so john, this next move by the eu, making announcement with the eu foreign policy joseph barall that the eu of mulling sanctions against what they described as these israel settlers in the occupied west bank. for the violence that they're exercising uh on them, they're very alarmed, the eu is very alarmed that uh settlers are exercising violence, i'm not too sure what make of it when they have to look that far to see and get alarmed by the carnage that's taking place in gaza strip, so why would they come out and make this statement in terms of sanctions against settlers and not make it more about what's going on with the palestinians that are getting murder? again as i want to say that the eu aware the activities in w not today, not yesterday, nearly 30 years, they repeatly
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receiving calls and receiving reports of the attack on the civilians in west bank, last year they attacked the city of town actually, they burned the houses, they burned the cars, they kill people, they hundreds of people, and actually was survived by the army, because seen telling them when to come, we're together, i still have a copy of that, the european union aware of that, okay, went to to visit the border israel with gaza and ' was taking tour by the israel office, they show him that what happened by hamas, he would not even there to think to go to the palestinian side, and when he was asked al jazera about the what happened, he was only conding hamas and when he was asked, what about the killing of the rastinis, i'm not an international lawyer, i know, so he is one
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hand a qualified international lawyer to judge that the palestinians committing by the attack on the sevens of the of october committing crime according to the international law to the question about the palestinian been suffering daily he said i'm not an international lawyer so it is a hypocracy of the west they've been watching this crimes for nearly 30 years also expanding settlement in bank is never stopped you know they sign in not to do that has been cutting trees some of the trees two is old, they just chopped them, they attack, they attack farmers, how they now suddenly suddenly the up said, oh this is wrong, we're gna actually stop this guys coming to our countries, no visas, this is not the action, the actual is the dismeltle of you, because they are against the international law and
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occupied land, so this is a pr and regard to your quick just like quick comment regard to your uh comment about the question about the the viding attitude toward the civilians, he was told in the beginning of the war, how many thousand people dying, and he said no, i don't believe the prestinian story, i don't believe that is correct, now suddenly for you election, we have election coming soon in the state, there a lot of pressure by the americans, which is i salute the hundreds and thousands of of the americans want. so when we say americans we the the regime in the state, people work in the states and to have the political advantages that biden sees instead of caring for the lives of palestinians, but the messages that biden is receiving from what we understand that i'm
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sure you're also aware of in terms of a diplomats, american diplomats in west asia or middle east some call it are sent. us are losing badly uh when it comes to the battle space us port for israel as moral culpability and war crimes youolated on international stage the us by some accounts may have been isolated not as much as the israel but this is really put that to high gear has no i mean look the... position of the united states is an international power, it is still a powerful country, and the so-called international rules-based order is simply, the united states gets to make up the rules and apply them arbitrarily as it sees fit, that is now being challenged, it's being
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actively challenged, so you see the emerg of bricks and within this emergence of bricks you're seeing a reduction. us authority and influence in the middle east, but that is not going to save the palestinians, they are headed towards being extinguished in gaza, and i want to reemphasize, the only thing that's going to stop that is tangible action by countries that control strings, the oil, things that israel needs and else to try to impose a blockade on. since you since you mentioned oil, my last question goes to you, john phoenix, a front israel did not expect for it to reach the stage that it seems to be going to, and that is the front with yemensar movement and the yemani army have targeted vessels that are either originated from israel affiliated with israel or anything that has to deal with israel, any vessel, any tanker, do you think that that will prove to
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effective in one minute please or less? yes, that's also that your guest is completely right, the uh the is that there is oil, there's no gas, no trade with the outside world, the way our yemani brothers actually acting on the bible, i think this is very very effective tool, very well, thank you so much, we appreciate it, let me thank our guest larry johnson analyst from florida, thank you for your comments and john phoenix, thank you, journalists and international relations from london, thank you b with that we can for this the spotlight from our team, it's goodbye.
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