tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV January 10, 2024 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST
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us has been assisting and even masterminding the israeli regime's genocidal war on the gaza strip, but is the us playing a duplicitous role, like when it asks the israeli regime to prevent civilian deaths, especially women and children, and yet it assisted with all types of military equipment, including bombs and missiles, or when it says that the gaza strip will not be occupied again by israel, and there will be no forced displacement of palestinians, war crime, yet it is discussed placing palestinians in egypt and jordan. in this edition of the spotl you will look at the us role, especially, the future of palestinians in which it is reported that the us has talked to number of regional arab countries and wants israel's muslim majority neighbors to play a role in this trip's future governance. first let me introduce our guests for this edition of the spotlight. mike here co-founder of the scottish palestine solidarity campaign jones from edinburgh. also joining us alberto garcia watson, a political analyst and activist from malaga in spain. gentlemen, welcome to you both, make
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napier first to you. uh, taking a look at the the us role uh is our focus in some regards uh, and uh, i'm wondering what it is that that it's doing, it's it's rather duplicitous, as i said in the intro, i mean it announces for example, publicly uh, israel needs to decrease the number of civilian deaths, um, precautionary measures need to take place, but at the same time it provides it with unfettered access to... all types of military equipments, not to mention the fact that you have about 40 to 42% of the bombs that the us has provided are unguided, means they drop it anywhere uh without it going anywhere and it kills lots of civilians, which means maximum deaths. how do you view this type of approach by the us? well, straight forward support for genocide, and it's not the first time the u.s. has publicly
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supported genocide without using the word, but it's it's ongoing and we can see it on tv. the words that they use a thin veneer to try to give their arab allies in saudi arabia and the emirates and morocco and so on. some kind of suggestion that they might be balancing, that they might want kinder gentle genocide possibly that israel should try to reduce. the killing rate for children from tens of thousands of children and women to to a smaller number, but still high, but the the words also that blincan used today was that israel must readmit the palestinians is displacing, he added when security conditions permit, and those security conditions will be decided by israel, look, this is a, this is a cynical game which really everybody who
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studied it knows what's going on, america from time to time when it's attack dog in the middle east behaves particularly savagely and it plays very badly with american public opinion, they sometimes have to use a which of which cover up that, but but essentially america is at the moment completely committed to to israel, it it's got warships there, it has aircraft carriers, may even, according to some rumors, have special forces on the ground helping their allies in gaza, but it's for square and support of israel, look in the past in the past uh america had to say we support this country because it's a democracy, it didn't matter if it was democracy or not, but that's what the claim was, but now around the world, millions of americans can see that america, despite the words, is absolutely committed to genocide and it's causing a big... we can in terms of
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the us role and not just in the confines of we're giving them military assistance which they don't even really... acknowledge as much as they used to before, but that they are actually an active participant when it comes to the war planning, perhaps or providing intel, or as our guests are indicated, that there's special operatives that are on the ground, which shows the extent that the us is involved in, which has have it has led many to conclude the us is an active participant in the war strategy and the genocidal war strategy that's being executed on the gaza strip, what do you think? well definitely the... united states is involved in this war like it's been involved in so many other wars around the the the around the world in the past decades, but here is clearly obvious that without the american help, the israelis will be very much in trouble, as a as matter
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of fact at this point israel is in panic and that's why they have to call uh basically for help the united states involving other countries like syria. like yemen, like uh, the lebanese hisbollah militias, trying to involve them in the way that united states gets involved also, so it's it's actually very, very clear that without united states support, and not just in weapons, but the moral support and the obvious support in the and the united nations security council with the vet, israel feels extremely strong and in pune like it's always been for the past. seven decades and that is very very clear for the israelis, without america actually israel would not even exist today, why would you say israel is in trouble? i think i think i heard you there, but definitely is in trouble because uh the the the situation now at this
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point after three months of war is that hamas is basically intact in the gaza strip and they have lot of losses and the whole world is at this moment um knocking at israel's let's capitalize let's capitalize on that then with you mcnap here if after uh we were approaching a h days i think in a matter of few days on sunday it's going to be 100 days of a non-stop bombing practically correct and we know what the goal and intention and intent of uh um the israeli regime forces are but they have realized that they can't do that perhaps uh way before the hundred days is due and at this point they realize that and i'm sure the us realizes that, why are they continuing with the bombing campaign? why are they still murdering palestinians? because that's the only thing they can do. you're right 100 days, where are the photographs? mean, the the the the information which israel has produced for
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world opinion about mass hamas surrenders, about massive armaments found under hospitals and so on, even the bbc is is refusing to accept that at face value. that's quite new. the fact is, they can kill tens of thousands of civilians, but they are not defeating the palestinian resistance at the moment. there are no photographs of surrenders. 100 days is are remarkable achievement against the most high-tech army in the region and possibly in the whole world. so, for for israel to win, they have to crush hamas and hamas has to be defeated, which is inconceivable, because hamas represents the resist. spirit of the palestinian people at the moment, but for for the palestinians to win, for for gerillas to win, for irregular fighters to win, all they have to do is survive, and they're surviving, they are not being defeated, they have to take significant losses, even terrible losses
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in terms of the civilian population, but that's just the history of of fighting colonialism in algeria or vietnam or any other country, terrible, terrible costs in in women and children and ordinary... civilians being slaughtered, but that's the fight against colonialism. israel is not winning, the resistance is winning by the normal calculus of of of asymmetric warfare, and it's absolutely remarkable. nobody could have imagined this on october the 6th that hamas and jihad and other and other factions would score such a such as a classic military victory against the much bonted israeli army. and why are they carrying on the bombing? because they were defeated on october the 6th, they suffered terrible defeat, almost, maybe even bigger than they did in 2006 with hisbollah, and the only way they can try to erase that from popular memory is through mass killing. now remember, an israeli
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minister years ago promised the palestinians in gaza what he called a holocaust ashoa, and there have been many threats to reduce palestine to the stone age, they're simply... doing what they want to do, but it's really to cover up the shame of what happened after october the 7th when they were defeated. well, when we take a look at what occurred just few weeks back, uh, and unlike... you to put that into context for us, alberta, that is the fact that you have the us national security advisor who has come down visiting uh prime minister b benjamin netanyahu and of course the minister of military affairs saying that we have to uh make sure that israel goes from high intensity warfare to low intensity warfare so that it would prevent uh the high number of civilians that are being killed, that was few weeks ago and combining that with the fact that the us has used this video power at the un which prevented the ceasefire from happening, there hasn't been a day, perhaps every other day, a
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minimum we were looking at hundreds of palestinians being killed, mean that's almost become normal, and from then until this point we could have, there could have been a prevention of all these lives, palestinian lives being lost, what does that say then about the us role again? the us at this point is interested in the amount of... that's not to be shown in tv, it's actually an embarrassment that united states is providing weapons and support to israel in this and slaughter that's going on in the gaza strip. let's not forget that in a few months it starts the uh presidential election campaign in the united states and the popularity of biden has gone really down the drain thanks to this conflict and thanks to this support. here we're talking about over 50,000. tons of bombs thrown in the gaza strip which represents even more explosives thrown and
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the two atomic attacks and sorry in hiroshima and nagasaki, united states cannot keep up with this numbers showing they don't care about the amount of casualties, but they care is about the repercussions that this will take politically for the presidential career of biden next year. yeah, whenever this uh subject comes up mcnap here, i don't about you and how what impression you have. but it's hard to uh put biden's reelection campaign uh versus palestinives. nevertheless, let's take a look at this icj case that south africa has pressed and has submitted uh the genocide that israel has committed. there's lots of support that's come out, many countries are supporting it, many organizations at the same time, but it's interesting the way that the us has reacted to this, which are using anthony blincan's words, meritless. productive and completely without any basis in fact whatsoever, he
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could have done a better job trying to make a convincing case here, but he really, mean what do you think, what's your reaction to it? no, i agree with you, i don't think he could have made a more convincing case, if you're playing a game of cards, you don't have to be a great player if you've got a fantastic hand, and however good a player you are, if you've got rubbish in your hands, you can't win, and how could he? defend the first genocide that's being played out on american television, he simply couldn't, so it now goes to the supreme, it now goes to the international court of justice, and what can he say? mean it's genocide, it's the south african government which has huge moral credibility internationally because of the fight against the apart regime there, and it's them against the israelis, it's you know there's no competition in terms of worldwide public. opinion, israel can only lose. mean, what can the judges say? it's okay to kill
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500 people in a hospital, it's okay to to force a situation where surgeons have to amputate the limbs of their children without anesthetic, because israel allows few trucks into gaza, but they removed the anesthetic from the trucks. the bestiality, the depravity, mean i can hardly find the language to describe the crimes of israel against the palestinian people, "and i'm not, this is not out of step with world opinion, so no, i disagree with you, respectfully, i don't think that blink could possibly make case uh, for such diabolical behavior. i need to get a reaction from you also on that, um, if if that's okay, alberto, in terms of the way that lincoln has come out, making a statement which obviously the facts speak otherwise, especially as our guests are indicated, everybody around the world has seen the genocide tech." place on the tv screens? no, absolutely, if the americans
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believe that actually nobody is watching, they're actually very, very wrong, what's going on, it's even convincing people that had not much of an opinion in the israeli palestinian conflict that was going on and what has been going on for the past 75 years is genocide and genocide should be punished and and and south africa has taken the initiative. that many countries are following um and not just some uh third war countries, we see even that the vice prime minister of belgium petra. is calling for his own government to also press charges in the international uh court, but even in spain here in this country, we have political parties that belong to the coalition that is governed in spain that are asking try to convince the spanish president to also press charges in the international criminal court, so uh we um what the whole world is watching,
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blinking cannot just put away with just some sweet words, as he usually does, this is his fifth visit to to israel and to the region and basically what he's trying every single time is to rescue israel from the situation that is suffering now, which i mentioned earlier, is all these different nations and militias gett involved and most probably getting probably eventually iran involved directly and not to proxy groups into this war, and that's why blincan has to every single... time uh come to rescue them, but blincan cannot keep on with this with this speech of of clearly deciding for israel and minimizing uh the genocide that is unfolding at this moment. another one of the things that is at least out of the public is contradictory uh between the israel regime and the us mcnapier is the future of the
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palestinians. netanyahu has admitted very recently that he wants uh the expulsion. of the gazan population uh where he he called it voluntary migration, i'm not too sure what's voluntary when you have starvation, air strikes, diseases and bullets, certain bombs being dropped on you, but the us, it appears has other plans based on the visit by blincan, he has said that uh he's talked to regional arab countries and uh he wants them to play a role in the governance of the gaza strip, so the first question is what business is it of lincoln to want and to think that it should play a role in that, and b, what about uh the difference uh of approach there between us and the israeli regime on this issue? well, i mean, the language that's used is uh, is you know, diplomatic language often around the world is meant to deceive and and
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to sweeten something that's very ugly, but sometimes it fails because the the the the split between... reality in the terms is just unbridgeable. i mean, when blincan and his pals talk about that they oppose a cease fire, they want the murder to continue, they want genocide to continue, so they call it we're in favor of humanitarian pause, because humanitarian sounds nice, but what they really mean is stopping for an hour or two and then resuming the killing without end. so what we see around the world, i think is the is the incredible, the increasing isolation of america, and it's only deepen in in the months and years to come, and i think also we're witnessing the real, the very catastrophic failure of zionism, because the zionits always sold themselves, well not sell, they hired themselves, somebody once said zionism is not for sale, it's only for hire, but they try to hire themselves to the british and to the americans and even the turks for a while, as as a strike force in
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the middle east, and if you look at it, they kind of failed most of the time, but after 19... 67 when they defeated egypt, syria and jordan, after that american aid went through the roof, and since then america has pumped military aid into israel to be its attack dog into, but now they've failed, now they need america to come to support them, they need america to allow them to survive in the region, so what used to be an asset, is fast becoming huge liability, i think we're witnessing dramatic weakening, weakening of the of thesinus project. despite their their military power at the moment, indeed, well um, alberto, we uh, in iran, the islamic republic has obviously been uh very active when it comes to what has occurred in terms the us israely genocidal war, on the whole palestinian issue, the islamic republican has been very active, and just today we had the fifth emergency meeting of the oic member states and also the first meeting of the
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asian parliamentary assembly, uh, i don't know if you're aware of that, and there were some uh, the iranian parliament speaker, put forward some great uh plans along with for example the indonesian rep and other participants at this conference and aside from that the active role that iran has been playing since uh the operation of flood has taken place to make sure that this thing proceeds and for there to be some action taken against israel um what types of impact do you think these types of conferences and iran's role plays when it comes to safeguarding palestinians trying to prevent at least giving the effort to prevent. this genocidal war from going forward or at least hoping for a cease fire even take place at this point the islamic republic of iran has shown from from day one its support. uh to the palestinian class even opening the first palestinian embassy ever in history um and and definitely uh iran uh providing uh with
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weapons and training and logistics to the different groups that are at the moment on the on the ground battling israel proves that uh even though they're not directly involved to certain extent they are because uh the houties the uh militias in in iraq, hisballah and hamas were not accessed if it wasn't for the support that they received from iran, so basically iran represents here the basically the dignity of the acts of acts of resistance towards israel, we see other countries like jordan, like egypt, and now even talking with about saudi arabia with normalization, it shows out not to be... really convinced of uh really getting involved in this war supporting the palestinians, but yet you always see uh uh iran as i said from day one
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uh expressing this support and as i said i was for a couple of years in in in lebanon and i got to to know pretty well from the inside hisbollah and basically hisbollah like hamas the tunnels the different strategies military. arily uh the usage of non-guided drones and missiles, if it wasn't for iran, it would not exist, sure, thank you for that uh, by the way, we don't refer them uh as uh militias, we refer them as fighters, just so we're clear on that, um, we're approaching the end of the program here, and make nappi here, taking a look at the purpose that blincan has laid out in terms of a statement that he made, he said that he wants to be this trip that... made to pave the way for the normalization, but he says uh, it is just as clear that normalization will not be a substitute for or at the expense of
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palestinian political rights and ultimately a palestinian state, on the contrary, that peace has to be part of any normalization effort, so i think that that's a thrust of it is, isn't it, that that's what he wants, he doesn't, he wants israel to uh go through with this so-called normalization and for there to be obviously a receiving. into it in terms of the arab countries, in particular saudi arabia, because the attack after october, after october 7 uh was not any militarily, it wasn't any strategically designed attack, it was vengeence, it it was a blood list exact maximum killing from the palestinians for their defeat, they just as they had no strategy, then it's difficult to perceive a strategy now, when the american disagreement with israel comes down to this, "america wants israel, wants israel, wants israeli binets uh to support the palestinian authority rule in gaza, um, which is difficult to envisage, in fact impossible to
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envisage given the, given what's happened, whereas israel wants to drive out every last palestinian possible, but failing that, because america won't go along with it, they wish to control the perimeter, and and and version of what happened, what has happened for the last..." 16 years, but with greater weakness in the part of the palestinians and greater power for israel, so there's nothing here which holds out any possibility of peace and justice, the only, the only way forward of course is the is this is the serial defeat of israel and the disappearance of design is project, thank you very much for that, making your co-founder of scottish palestine solidarity campaign from edinburgh, also alberta garcia watson, political analyst and activist somalaga spain, thank you, with that we come to an end for this edition of the spotlight from the team, it's goodbye.
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ever since it was founded, the us has had a bleak history of invading other nations and ripping off their natural resources. iran has been among few countries. that has stood up against the united states hegemonic policies. the islamic republic has flexed its muscles on several occasions, one of which was targeting the us base in iraq. watch the details in this documentary.
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first tv headlines: israel is committing the world's most documented genocide in history. the palestinian death bod tops 23, mostly women and children. palestinian authority president tells the us secretary of state that gaza is integral to palestinian statehood aspiration. and iran's partiment speaker, hosting an international conference on palestine, urges action to be taken to stop the israely genocide in gaza.
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