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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  January 13, 2024 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST

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crisis, devastating wars, terrorism, the israeli lobby, crackdown, diplomacy, us israeli genocidal war fall.
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الله اكبر. نعم كنت. of palestina merdeka palestina merdeka israel yuk enggak apa-apa bapak-bapak ibu-ibu pagi-pagi sampai senam saudara sekalian sebagai informasi bahwa.
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of hello, welcome to the spotlight, i'm way. the us and the uk have attacked yemen, hitting over 70 targets in that country, and the reason that was given to stop the yemeni army from targeting vessels traveling in the red sea, that's israeli-links, although the yemini army has been very clear that it only targets these israeli linked vessels and ships, it has hit back at the us for the attack, saying that the yemani army's actions is to stop. the us-israely genocidal war, but is the us british attacks on yemen a way to distract from the genocidal war that's taking place in the gaza strip, and if that's the case, does it also point maybe to the failure of the israeli regime uh when it comes to not being able to defeat the resistance fighters, those are just a couple of the angles we be looking at in this edition of the spotlight. first let me introduce our guests, joining us in studios david, professor of history at the
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california state university at san bernardina. also joining us chris williamson, former british mp and host of press tv's palestine declassified who joins us from derby in the uk. welcome to you both gentlemen and i'll start with you david if i may uh taking a look at just what has transpired in the past hours or so we had osamaham down in beirot pointing to. fact that israel has pretty much not been able to achieve the goals that it wanted and is in a sense been defeated on that in that in that regard because it couldn't defeat the palestinian fighters namely hamas also you have the israeli prime minister who in a press conference has said that uh based on the icj and how that went down that we're going to continue uh with uh what they call their onslaught in the gaza strip but they of point both. point to the fact that they have
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been defeated, that israel has been defeated along with the us, which is masterminding this. um, what is your reaction to the fact that approaching 100 days, none of the goals that israel and? us wanted have been achieved when it comes to the their genocidal war on the gaza strip. it's great to be with you, thanks for having me. i don't think that the goals uh that israel has laid out are achievable. uh, that uh, they have neither achieved their goals nor will they be able to achieve these goals. they will not be able to defeat hamas or the palestinian resistance. uh, they thus far have not been able to achieve their military goals, they haven't been able to uh uh successfully... have uh a release or exchange of hostages or or refuse to, so their stated goals have not been met, and uh, i believe that uh the predominantly us and uk led attack on yemen uh is is uh simply an effort to distract uh world opinion
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from uh what's going on, especially not just what's going on in gaza, but what's going on in the hague related to what's going on in gaza um and to somehow try to spin... or to change the narrative um when in fact all this is doing is is bringing greater attention to the enabling of this geneside by the united states of america um and now uh with assistance from the uk uh so in short the the the effort uh is is to spin uh to try to show some sort of resolve uh when when in fact uh all this is doing is is pointing out in sharp relief the direct support now kinetic support the united states and the uk for the the zionist onslaught in genocide in gaza. so what do you think about that, chris williamson? i guess the the key point made there, one of them anyways is the fact that uh the possibility of the us and the uk um attacking yemen to divert attention from uh
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the uh failure that's uh going on there, the defeat really of the israel regime forces. do you agree with that? yeah, i think david makes a very pertinent point. um, clearly. "the israeli occupation forces are not making the progress that they had anticipated, we know that britain and the united states have been giving support to the israeli regime, providing military weapons and so on and steadfastly refusing to take any action to bring about a cease fire um and and these attacks that have been launched against yemen, there is no provision in international law for these air strikes, i mean..." many ways you could argue case of of international terrorism and indeed um if in terms of international law yemen i would argue is actually in compliance with international law in compliance with the um with the genocide convention which actually uh provides for uh
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nations to to take action to to stop a genocide from taking place or indeed to prevent one from happening and all the evidence points to the fact that car a genocide is happening before our very eyes, mean billions indeed, not millions, but billions of people are actually witnessing it on their smartphones and on their on their pcs and so clearly it seems to me what we're seeing now is is attempt to to divert attention and you mentioned the international court of justice where you know if the evidence is is followed it's very clear to me that you know at least a primer facy case is has been made out and that would have very serious very serious consequences not just for israel but for those that have been you know making it possible as it were for you collaborating in that in that genocide and
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it's certainly arguable that the united states and the united kingdom with the support that they've been giving both morally and indeed practically with with weapons and so... indeed, it's even been suggested that there are british and indeed american special forces on the ground in gaza, and the the british government issued what's known as a d- notice to suppress uh information uh being uh reported in the media about the special british special forces involvement on the ground there, so yes, you know, i i very much agree with with the point that that they that david was setting out there, what stands out with what uh chris williamson? said there david is the fact that uh yemen was actually um adhering to international law with uh what it has set out to do in terms of uh wanting the state of goal to be to stop this genocidal war that's going on and when he said that uh it uh kind of brought back uh
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the stated goal of the un we're back in 2005 and i just did a quick google search the r2p doctrine where it states uh un members endorsed that responsibility to protect, which states that countries have a responsibility to protect their citizens, and if they fail to do so, that responsibility, and this the key part falls instead on the rest of the world, so do you think that? "the fact that yemen has said, we're going to target israely bound ships unless this genocidal war stops, the siege is lifted, and then aid is also allowed to come in, um, that they are actually in a sense then adhering uh to law, just like our guest said, that is an interesting point, i would say that that uh anstal law is is directly applying the r2p doctrine, um, of course, this this doctrine, the responsibility to protect, often invoked and utilized by liberal intervention." in the united states or the other side of the coin of neoconservatives to legitimate attacks and the destruction of nations such as in libya,
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but i i would say that this would be a pure and just case of the responsibility to protect, and and and i'll just uh add on uh the point that the united states and the british by being directly complicit uh in this genocide, by not only underwriting it, funding it, giving the diplomatic protection, but now engaging in kinetic uh activity against the yemenis, depending on what the uh icj determines relative to the question of genocide, the united states and and the the british are uh then going to be deemed complicit uh with uh the the genocide if this is what the icj determines and so therefore in the context of what's been going on in the last few days this could be the us and uk attempting in some pathetic way to preempt the ruling, in other words once the ruling happens it would be very clear that they were bombing yemenees and killing some of the poorest people in the world in support of a genocide, but until that court ruling comes
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out, there there is potentially a little bit of interpretative leeway for them to therefore engage in this, and the the uh terminological shenanigans of the that this is is uh important to defend maritime uh commercial shipping, which which is is just absurd and pathetic. the skill of the attack however chris williamson in a sense i think puts a into question uh, what is what? the uk and the us after uh we're looking at um about 72 to 73 if the latest attack which was reported few hours back we put that at 74 uh if it were just some rocket launchers or pads uh which they were uh then uh maybe maybe we would say okay the they're not they're not really going after anything more than that but the scale of the attack maybe points to the fact that they want uh the eminy army to not have the deterrent power uh and therefore uh perhaps the the some that are speculating that they may want to take over that area,
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which is the bable mandab and the puerto fededa in order to take control basically of the red sea and the transit uh routes there. do you think that that is the intention of the us and the uk? well certainly looking imperialist powers like great britain and and the united states you have a have a record don't they going back in britain's case you know several hundred years of of using it its power to you know... impose it's will and i'm sure that's certainly what they would uh like to to achieve, however you know uh, it's not as straightforward as you some people might think, certainly the way in which some of the uh corporate media commentators in the in the west are sort of portraying this, i mean you know they're not taking a rag tag of um you know irregular uh sort of the militia here um we're talking about um heavy duty. in the case of of yemen and i mean they have significant weaponry at their disposal and uh
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won't be a straightforward and in terms of the will of the yemeny people it's very clear from the uh the rally that we saw uh huge rally in their in the sana city um with people expressing their absolute solidarity with the palestinian people and indeed support for the action which is being you know taken uh in support of the palestinian people to you as you've pointed out there target ships which are you israeli ships and and shipping which is bound for um the israeli regime but you know let's look at the united states record i mean you know they they they uh they've you know talk about the the rules based order and international law and all the rest of it um uh and use this as as as an argument to to justify their action against uh uh ansara and the you know these
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these air strikes, but you just look at what the united states, one rule for them and one rule for everybody else, it was only last year, they they they seized a uh an iranian oil tanker few years previous to that, they seized four iranian tankers that were bound for um venezuela um because they said that they were breaking the sanctions, the sanctions let's remember that the um the un special raporteur described there could be very, very serious uh um consequences. okay uh looks like we we just lost your audio there chris, i'm sorry we can't hear you uh let me move to you until we get that out fix we lost your audio there for second uh hold to your thoughts while i go to david uh david taking a look at um how the
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the us and the uk uh have attacked uh yemen in this case and point and we're not too sure how much further this is going to go at this point yemen has said that they're going to retaliate if i were to read the words of uh the hussein al-azi the yemeny deputy foren minister uh who said the us and britain must pay prepared to pay heavy price this may go on uh but the question that comes about here is is uh the us and the uk in the so-called coalition that they have actually over there which was you know wasn't really received that well especially when you have saudi arabia and the uae for example saying we don't want to be part of that. um is that they're they're afraid that this strategy might actually work, do you think that that is that is the case? because if you really think about it um, yemen has stood up, they've really stepped up to the plate and the strategy that they nobody would have thought uh, they've conjured that up and they went after it in terms of targeting israely bound ships, how effective do you think uh this strategy is and if the us in particular
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is afraid of this actually working? i think clearly it is working, i think uh it it is not only working, but it is working as intended, and therefore the the percentage of of shipping arriving at ellot port has has dropped essentially to zero, um, and so it is working uh, it is working both uh physically um as well uh in in terms of the uh uh uh let's say uh uh how to describe it the the global opinion um viewing the actions of answer law um in as you said uh as we could call it uh uh utilizing an approach that could be considered r2p to protect palestinians um uh this is is directly effective in achieving the desired goal um which is motivating uh uh the israel to stop its genocidal's onslot on the palestinian people now uh certainly the israeli economy um has has been hit hard by this uh the
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united states and and uh the british and this this weak loose coalition the they're trying to put this forward. as just a general attack on maritime trade and shipping when anser law has made it clear that this is directly directed only at uh israeli or zionist affiliated shipping so so again in short to answer your question um it is effective physically it is also effective in terms of the the information war and the narrative war if you will that that is critically important and in terms of uh maintaining the vast majority of world opinion on the side of the palestinians and on the side of ansera law in this case so in its con turn over the success these actions, we see now that these decrepit imperialist powers attempting this pathetic uh kinetic attack on yemen um in attempt to somehow uh uh change their policy um this is this is absurd, i think anyone who is a regular observer of politics in the region uh of of uh say military developments in the
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region uh is is well aware that uh the united states and the british are not going to be able to achieve the... goals and they are headed into yet another quagmyer um that uh the only question will be how many lives are lost and how much uh blood and treasure is expended by them in the process of them well sounds like the sentiment that you just said is shared by so many people like the images we're going to see now live coming from washington dc there's been a pro palestine rally if we can take a look at that um and see how many people have come out and what they're saying well that looks pretty big this is a live coming through from washington dc uh people have gathered there demonstration. there calling for the ceasefire in gaza and and to the us attacks on yemen and it's pretty amazing, i should say that uh the people have embraced this and naturally they should, i mean that really when you take a look at the genocide, but also the fact that they um also came out for what the us and the uk did attack on yemen,
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and i think london also uh obviously experienced a huge uh rally today, the areal shots of the drone shots. testament to that um, tell us the role that the people in general have played when it comes to this genocidal war, in terms of what it did, maybe the divisions that it caused, etc. uh, just to take a sides up, since we're we just showed some of these uh, this massive rally that was happening in washington, well i mean, i think what's happening is that the people of the world are united in their solidarity with the palestinian people, many people, millions of people who were unaware the israeli regimes utter brutal. the way in which the media tends to censor lot of this information, but of course this information is now getting out through through social media on people's smartphones
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on their pcs as i was referring earlier on, and that's why we're seeing unprecedented numbers of people week after week turning out all over the world to express their support for the palestinian people and their revoltion, their horror of what the israeli regime has been inflicting, and you know i think this will, well i think it's... concentrating the minds of certain politicians, i mean they are completely out of step, certainly the western political class is completely out of step with the public at lodge. i mean some of the european countries for example have gone as far as to ban pro-palestinian demonstrations, but in spite of that, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people are still turning out in in defiance of the law which has been passed in those lines to try and suppress that expression of solidarity, and so this is i think we're going to see elections. precedented numbers of elections i think around the world and i think many of the politicians who have thrown their lot in with the uh with the zionist entity will pay very heavy price and i think this will also weigh
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on the minds of the judges sitting in international court of justice it should do, mean the case is overwhelming and you know what could happen if that uh uh that decision goes the way indeed it should do is it could lead to israel being suspended from the united nations, it could result in palestine being admitted as a as a full member, it could result in an international criminal tribunal being established to prosecute the israeli officials who are responsible for ordering this genocide, but it also has implications as i was mentioning earlier for those who are complicit with the uh with the genocide and that includes politicians, particularly in united kingdom and the united states of america, but but also really right across the western world uh, they they really i think uh uh be looking over their shoulder and the course of history could indeed turn uh very favorably in favor of the the palestinian people and and could be decisive
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in terms of uh you know the the the future of of palestine and uh the the future of the the zionist entity. this could be pivotal year it seems to be in the in the palestinian struggle which as we now has been going on now for well over uh 70 years indeed unfortunately we're fresh out of time we have to end it here thank you. so much chris williamson, former british mp and host of press tv spouse on the classified and also david in the studio, pleasure to see you uh professor of history, california state university, sandernardino. thank you so much to you both. with that we come to an end for this edition of the spotlight. thanks for tuning in, from the team, this goodbye.
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الله اكبر نعم كنت قد تحدثت ان هذه الجرافات التي تشارك فيها. palestina merdeka palestina merdeka palestina israel saudara sekalian sebagai
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informasi bahwa rumah sakit indonesia hari ini membutuhkan baik benderanya jangan tekuk gitu ya ayo. in this week's show we'll be highlighting how the growing public backing for palestine in britain contrast sharply with the british
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political class who continue to give. soccer to israel, one such example is the increasingly voluable support for palestine on the terraces of celtic football club. the contradiction is something which has to be worked upon, so steve's talking about from the river to the sea is being regarded as being somehow genocidal and supportive of terrorism, but of course people are not being dissuaded by uh by by that argument, and what will happen really is that the more that people say there's a right to resistance, the less it will be possible to prosecute people for that. we have the... the royal fleet auxilillary which has got rmt members now it in the red sea supporting a genocide and now those members aren't supporting the genocide but the leaders are doing nothing about ballot and those members are instructing them not to work.
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this was carried out new attacks on gaza, they include an artillery strike on the city of ruffa, killing 12 palestinians. a separate attack on area near gaza's old city took the lives of 20 other people. the total death doll from israel's more than three months of onslot tops 23,8. mamas representative in lebanon says israel has failed to achieve any of his objectives in gaza despite the regime's genocidal war. osama hamdan said israel has failed to rate the determination and the resistance of palestinians. he said the resistance forces will continue to carry out operations against israel. the us military has conducted and strike on the