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drop stories here on press tv, 17 palestinians are killed in latest israely air strikes on gaza, five lost their lives in a strike on a resident. ential building and khan units and other 12 were killed in an air raid near al-shifa hospital in gaza city. overall deaththoll in gaza has top 24,800. the un says thousands of palestinians have been detained by israeli forces in the gaz of the strip and they face humiliation and torture in detention. un commissioner says palestinians are kept in horrific conditions urging the release of those held without charge. as well the resistance movement says
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of it's conducted new retiratory strikes in israeli position south of lebanese border. group says a fire a barrage of missiles at upper galilei israel media said a drone was also launched from lebanon and reached haifa bay. mexico and chile refer israel's war on gaza to the international criminal court, they express concerns over escalating violence against civilians. in gaza, especially children, and it comes a week after south africa also presented a case to the international court of justice for israeli genocide in gaza. hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets of yemen and jordan to voice support for palestinians, yemy protesters denounced washington's unequivocal support for the israeli regime, and demonstrators in jordan asked their governments and other arab states not to normalize ties with israel.
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hi everyone, judge andrew napolitano here for judging freedom, today is thursday, january 11th, 2024, professor john mirscheimer. joined us again, professor, always a pleasure, my dear friend, thank you for uh your time and uh your expertise. i want to talk to you um about the case in the hague of south africa's application against uh the government of israel alleing allegging genocide, but before we do just a little pick your brain a time on background, is prime minister netanyahu in control of his own government or is he a tool or pupet of the
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extremist members of his coalition who, if they left would deprive him of majority in the knesset? well, i don't think it would be fair to call him a puppet of anyone, he's a of a very powerful individual, he's formed an alliance of convenience or marriage of convenience with a handful of extremely right-wing individuals. "who are now ministers, as you say, in his government, and i think that he basically agrees with what they want, i think that they're all interested in ethnically cleansing gaza, and eventually ethnically cleansing the west bank, but tremendous pressure appears to be being brought to bear on netanyahu by the biden administration, and i think this court case is adding to that pressure, so he is now saying, netanyahu is that there'll be..." no
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ethnic cleansing and there'll be no permanent israeli settlements uh or permanent israeli troops in gaza that we are in effect going to get out. of course, as he is saying that, the far right ministers are in effect saying the opposite, which makes him look weak, but he has no choice at this point. politico reports that he's been saying to secretary blincon, i don't how they know this unless somebody overheard it. um, "i have this coalition, my hands are tied, it's not me, it's the coalition, tony, there's not much i can do about it. does that make sense to you? well, again, i, i think that his hands are tied, and that he can't shut the coalition, uh, the the far right members of the coalition up, like he probably would like to do at this point in time, just for tactical reasons, uh, but as i said, i think that you know he uh,
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is very little daylight between him and those far right ministers on how to deal with the palestinians. the problem that netanyahu faces at this point in time is that the biden administration is taking tremendous heat and administration is beginning to lean on him and he can resist up to a certain point, but then he's got to make some concessions, and further more, this whole business of the international court of justice is a real problem for israel, this is very visible case, all sorts of people are watching it, and israel is getting hammered, so he has to think all the time about how he can protect israel's reputation, and that means he has to change... his rhetoric somewhat, but he may change his rhetoric, but those four right ministers, they're, i mean, i think they're constitutionally incapable of changing their rhetoric, correct me if i'm wrong, i'm, i'm, i'm reading what you have written and what you have said here and elsewhere, for the
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first two months of this war, you were of the view that what was going on in gaza was a war crime, you're now of the view that it is genocide, am i right? yes, yes, and what, what caused you to... come to that dreadful, awful, but in my view, accurate and truthful conclusion. well, i thought that there was genocidal intent from the beginning, and in fact if you watch the court proceedings today, the evidence of genocidal intent, as one of the justices said, is chilling, incontrovertible, and overwhelming, so i think there's no question that from the beginning there has been genocidal intent, but if you look at what the israelis were doing, i think up until the first truth, or the only truth, which i believe was from november 24th to november 30th, i thought their actual conduct conduct in the war fell short of genocide, but then when the truth
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ended on november 30th and they went back on the offensive on december 1st, it became clear to me very quickly that they... they were now focusing on the south and when you look at what they were doing in the south uh it was clear that the actions i thought were genocidal nature and i would point out to you that up until the truth they were focusing mainly on the north uh and you remember they were pushing many many palestinians from the north from gaza city into the south uh so a large number of palestinians who would have been killed had they stayed in the north went south but then after december 1st they turned on the south and they went on rampage and there were huge numbers of people from the north as well as all those people who lived in the south in that area and the israelis were hitting with 2 pound bombs and it was a relentless bombing campaign and at that point i said the action that the israelis were
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taken uh were taking against the palestinian squared with the genocidal intent and i thought you could make uh a clear argument that they were waging the genocidal campaign against the palestinians. i know you watched the proceedings in the hague today because you told us that you did, but before we run few clips and i ask you to tell me what you saw, is there a legal definition of genocide that the court will employ and that the public can understand. well, the uh, the south africans say that there is evidence.
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self is not a very satisfactory word, because part could even include a small part, so what the south africans have done is added the word substantial, a substantial part, they're not accusing the israelis of killing all palestinians in gaza, just a substantial part, now how the court actually interprets that, i don't know, maybe we'll find out at some point, but i would guess everybody on that court, this is my guess would go all with the south african use of the term substantial the palestinian population and doesn't the same convention, a treaty, it's called a convention, doesn't the same convention prohibit aiding and abeding, supplying and actively supporting genocide,
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oh absolutely, the issue of complicity, would that arguably inculpate joe biden and the american administration? yes, but "i didn't see any evidence, and you want to understand, i'm not a lawyer and i wasn't looking for this, but i didn't see any evidence that the south africans were going after the united states for complicity, uh, but i think there's no question that we're..." complicit is in this crime, they can't deny the events that occurred in gaza, it's up to 24 or 26 th00 deaths, only 3,0 of which appear to have been hamas fighters, and they can't deny the words that came out of the mouths of the senior government leaders, all of which are quoted at length verb and as far as i can tell accurately in that 84 page document that we read, absolutely, i mean the evidence here is overwell. certainly in terms of genocidal intent, let me just say another word about
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that, this is not an actual court case to determine whether israel is guilty of genocide, it's very important to understand that, and i think the bar for genocide is very high, and one could argue that even with all this evidence, it won't be enough to cross that bar, but again this is not a trial where we're trying. to determine or the court is trying to determine whether israel is guilty of genocide. what are they there for? they're there to get an order from the court to tell israel to cease and desist from its offensive operations in gaza, and the argument they have to make is that there is sufficient evidence that this is a potential genocide to force the israelis to sit in... sense stop their military operations in gaza,
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that's all they're asking for, they're not saying israel is guilty of genocide, period, and the court should determine whether that's true or not, that will come later in all likelihood, and that will take years to resolve, almost everybody agrees on that, right, this is case where south africa is just trying to get an... order from the court to put an end to this offensive uh before more people are killed and and the israelis wouldn't comply with such an order would they, unless there's some sort of severe economic sanction, the court doesn't have an army, well that's right, and what the court can do is go to the security council and ask the security council to pass a resolution which would have real teeth, but we all know who's sitting in the security council that resolution, correct, correct? and uh so i i think that's true, here is go ahead, go
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ahead, here is a clip from that one of our regular guests who was a big fan of yours and very intelligentuh young man, max blumental has press credentials and was at the state department today, i'm sure this poor guy whose name is vadante patel at the state department was not happy to see max in the audience, it's a little bit of a long clip, but the question is typical... blomantholian and i want you to hear it, listen to the response and reply to it, so this is cut 19, accused china of genocide for its treatment the weigers, but blincan didn't point to any mass killing there, according to euromed monitor, 4% of the entire population of the gaza strip is now dead or injured in just 90 days, 65,00 tons of munitions have been dropped. on the gaza strip three times what was dropped on hiroshima. you have in evidence of industrial style killing. the
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south african legal team presented 20 minutes straight of statements on the record by israeli leadership expressing the intent to commit genocide, for example, referring to the palestinian population as amalec. so how can you explain this discrepancy between secretary blincan accusing china of explicitly of genocide with no mass killing, presenting no evidence of the mass killing of wigers. and then dismissing out of hand the potential that israel could be committing genocide in the gaza strip, calling it unfounded. how do you explain this discrepancy? uh, the same way that i just explained it to your colleague who asked essentially the same version of your question, which is that each conflict is different, and any kind of determination like this uh needs to be based on specific facts and law, and when it comes to the points that are made being made in today's hearing. again, i'm not going to uh speak to those specifically, israel will have an opportunity to... address uh some of those tomorrow uh, but we again feel that these allegations that
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israel is committing genocide are unfounded. that being said uh, we do not disagree that additional steps must and need to be taken to minimize the impact on civilians and we'll continue to raise that directly uh with relevant partners and given that you fast-tracked 14 sale of 14,000 uh tank shells to israel bypassing congress. given secretary blincan's participation in work we didn't. i'm just going to stop you right there because the premise of your question is uh is a little misguided, we did not bypass congress as part of those uh as as as part of that there is appropriate congressional notification that have. and we complied with those appropriately. okay, more and more members of congress are demanding oversight because they're not getting adequate oversight, but no one disputes that the us is isolated in protecting israel as it conducts this operation, as it calls it in gaza. no one disputes the direct us role, so the question is, the secretary blincan who went to israel first, declaring at he was there as a jew, identifying with the ethno-religious
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character of this state, which is now standing accused of the potential to commit genocide, is secretary? blincon concerned that ruling in favor of south africa in this case could set the stage for his own prosecution or that of your colleagues? i'm just not going to get ahead of hypotheticals and you probably shouldn't either. jackson, go ahead. all right, so he referred to the genocide allegations as unfounded. admiral kirby, you and i've seen this tape referred to them as meritless. these two references are hogwash. yeah, i think that that's true. i mean, is putting them on the spot and they have stock answers and i think that most people are going to think those uh stock answers or foolish answers and don't really address the issue that max is raising. i mean, what else can you say? if the um international court of justice rules that there is genocide and takes us to the
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security council, even if the us vetos it and britain abstains, which is what usually happens there. "when the security council is arguably being critical of israel, will this not put nail in the coffen of the israeli pr war internationally? just to be clear, they're not going to rule that this is or is not genocide, they're going to rule that there is or is not sufficient evidence to think that there is possible genocide, you saw reflected in max blument those comments, and then..." tell the israelis to cease and desist, but it is very important to understand that this is not a trial uh dealing with, i wish it were a trial, and i wish the south african lawyers could call professor john mirscheimer from the university of chicago as an expert witness, the problem is if it was a trial, it would take a couple years to resolve, meantime,
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many palestin, many more palestinians would die, right, so the the reason that you have this expedited. format is to stop the killing as quickly as possible, all right, the court is not going to stop the killing, and the the security council is not going to stop the killing, however, if the court favors south africa and a credible charge, and goes to the security council, the security council sustains the american, the likely american veto, modifying my question in light of your correction to my misunderstanding of what the... would do, will this not be nail in the coffin to the israeli pr war? yes, it will be. no matter what happens in terms of the ruling or the decision of the court, this is disaster for israel, because the evidence was presented today all in one place in a very
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clear and compelling manner, and it is disastrous for israel. "there's just no question about it, anybody who sits down and watches uh the hours and 16 minutes of testimony can't help but think that there's something fundamentally wrong in israel, just listening to what israeli leaders are saying about the palestinians, just looking at what they're doing uh to the population, the civilian population in gaza, it's horrible, so this is huge problem, but the more important point is it's not..." away, it's not like this is going to be resolved in the international court of justice, and then that's the end of it, this is going to go on and on and on, because will an adverse a decision or ruling or an opinion adverse to israel in the hague effect israeli public opinion of what their government is doing?
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very hard to say, up to this point, it hasn't had much effect at all, the israelis have really... circle the wagons and they just don't want to hear this, and they have all sorts of counters to the charges, most of them don't make much sense, but what happens over time is another matter, this one's going to play out over the next couple years and israel is not in a good position to deal with these charges over time. when palestinian journalist shirin abu agile was killed by an israeli sniper and may 11, 2022, the israelis meant to get across a
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clear message that they don't want any narrative other than their own under decades old occupation of palestinian lands and their aggression. it wasn't the first time israeli sought to put gag on the... alternative narrative, and every time it has failed. watch the history of the israeli measures and palestinian counter measures in this documentary. if you take israel for what it is, and... outgrowth the united states in west asia than the wars that the israeli military is fighting or america's by extension, and it is not just figurative thing to say, israel would not
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have survived in the past seven decades without american support. the united states has showered israel with billions in financial aid, military aid and other forms of support throughout its years of existance, israel would have been unable to survive without the us support throughout its short. existence, in order to build the so-called iron dome weapon system alone, america offered a whopping 1.6 billion dollars from 2011 to 2021. last year, the united states congress passed another one billion dollars in funding for the apparently israeli system.
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in the ongoing war on gaza, the israeli regime has been gobbling up american money and weapons. since the start of the war, the pentagon has quietly ramped up military aid to israel, from more missiles for iron dome to laser guided missiles for apache helicopters, also us made to bunkerbuster munitions to military. vehicles, according to an internal defense department list. let's take a look at how america has been fueling the war on gaza in another. the latest war on
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gaza started on october the 7th after a multi-punked attack by hamas, the gaza-based palestinian group, the scope of which caught the israeli regime by surprise. the israely military then started the current bloody war, primarily with aerial attacks. found the besieged gaza, then sent soldiers into the enclave. hours after the hamas raid on october the 7th, washington started sending warships and war planes into the region and prepared to give israel whatever it needed. israel also asked the us for iron dome interceptors while president joe biden said washington would quickly provide additional equipment and resources, including ammunition which would reach israel. within days a wall street journal report says that the united states has given israel range of munitions, including so-called bunkerbuster bombs for
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its war in gaza. it said us arms shipments to israel since the start of the war included 15,000 bombs and 57,155 mm artillery shells mostly carried on c-17 military cargo planes. wall street journal says that some of the bloodiest israeli. attacks on the gaza strip have involved the use of big us-made bombs. another form of us assistance for israel of course comes in the form of diplomatic cover. the us has blocked several resolutions at the un security council that would have necessitated a ceasefire to have urgent humanitarian aid reach the hundreds of thousands of palestinians who have been displaced by the israeli war. when severely weakened. version of that resolution passed recently, it passed with a us abstention. it is easy to imagine the israeli arsenal drying
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up in the ongoing all-out war on. previous wars have lasted for several days or weeks only and america isn't hiding its near constant near total replenishing of the israeli regime either, but if it is true that israel is fighting what is practically an american war with the american missiles and vehicles, guns and munitions and diplomatic cover and stone walling, what are the actual implications of the war over the united states? as the suffering in palestine continues to grow, america as well as israel must be held accountable. every palestinian death caused by the israeli war on gaza is casualty of the united states war on the palestinian enclave too, and any tragedy yet to come is one of america's making as well. the united states lubricates the war machine, the israeli military fights, palestinians are
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killed and america accused. estimulates shame: 10 years of chaos and war in syria, the ruins left. in syria, who benefits from the continuation of this war? what is the view of the west, particularly america towards war in syria and the support of many countries for creating chaos in syria? why syria, a different narrative?
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señor. 106 days in the us israely genocide in gaza, new report reveals at least two mothers are killed every hour in the bissiege rouser street, the usa. the palestinians are detained by israeli forces in gaza and they face humiliation and torture. israel the occupation forces launched fresh raid on several areas of the occupied west bank abducting several palestinians there.
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