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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  January 24, 2024 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST

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crisis, devastating wars, terrorism, the israeli lobby, crackdown, diplomacy, plied off palestine.
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while the us is really genocidal war on the gaza strip roars ahead, the genocidal death doll is averaging a couple hundred daily. meanwhile, there's another onslaught that israel regime forces have been conducting, and that is in the occupied west bank, where at least 370 palestinians have been killed since october the 7th. isn't this another aggression against palestinians? in this edition of the spotlight, we will look at how eyes should not be taken off the occupied west bank where israely atrocities like in gaza have been on going for decades and how israeli officials want to cleanse the west bank of most palestinians just like in the gaza strip. let me introduce our guests for this edition of the program. larry johnson is a former cia analyst joining us from bratington florida. also joining us is alberto garcia watson, political analyst and activist who joins us from malaga over in spain. gentlemen, welcome to you both. larry
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johnson, first over to you. um, i have to mention how this is become uh, it's extraordinary that may maybe um, we're becoming numb when we hear these deaths that's taking place. i mean, we're looking at the the death doll of a around 26 thousand or up to 27 thousand, but we're looking at how over 200 palestinians. have been killed again in the span of 24 hours uh by the regime forces and and then 10,00 children uh so far killed and 7,00 women uh these are happening um this death thole is happening a rather continuous and frequent pace. what do you think about this when you when you hear this of type of death though? well i'm not trying to minimize it, but i want to point out that the reason we're able to pay such attention to
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this is because of social media primarily, of in which is good, because you go back in history, in the past, like when the nazis wiped out the warsaw ghetto, they did similar things, but nobody saw it, it wasn't, it wasn't on social media every day, and now these the images of these dead children, these babies, the women that are being slaughtered wantedly, that's spreading. around the world and so that social media has become if you will powerful weapon on the side of the palestinians to rally global support now that said the thing we the only country we've seen that stood up to actually of try to do something to stop the slaughteren everybody else talks a good game and turkey is particularly eggs in this aspect in my regard ' the talking condemn what the
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israelies are doing, but they don't do anything to bring it to halt, and meanwhile the united states is enabling the slaughter, so it's uh, you know, the the images are going to keep piling up until i think, friday at least, i we're going to get action from the international court of justice, and i think that will bring some additional pressure on israel to stop. do you said friday, that's when it's going to be announced? yeah, yeah, yeah, that's an interm uh announcement that they said the... we're going to make, so let me ask you uh, if i may uh, larry johnson, let's say that announcement is made uh, do you think that this is going to impact uh the lives of palestinians on the ground whom are getting decimated and are dying by the day? yeah, yeah, no, i think it will, not immediately, let me ask alberto, alberto garcia that that question, go ahead, sorry about that, that's all right, well, but actually i'm not very convinced that what? but it's decided on the
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on friday is actually going to change anything on the field, i happen to have visited the gases trip several times and peaceful times, let's say peaceful times, they never lived on the peace and the gas is trip, and the conditions in which the population over two million people live is absolutely like in a prison, it's like they lived in alkataras, no way out, um, it was everything restricted the entring and the exiting of people and and and and whatever products are needed, i mean, just potato chips and chocolate is forbidden to enter the gaza strip, that's for for an example, no, so i i don't think that actually whatever is decided on friday is going to make the uh israeli authorities to change their program
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and their project, which is actually uh ethnic cleansing, that's part of their project of a great israel that goes from the the river nile all the way to the euphratus, river in iraq and they haven't uh actually the managed that possibility by weakening all these countries in the in the area with the help of the united states, so basically and what actually our friend, our colleague in the states had mentioned that on friday, it would determine anything, i don't actually think it's going to change anything on the ground, united states is going to keep on supporting this, slaughter all these people that are getting killed over 200 people per day. are killed with american weapons and united states does not want to have a sice fire so it will prolong in the time until something else happens but not definitely it will not be a choice of israel indeed well something else is happening and larry johnson that's what's happening on the occupied west
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bank i mean since october the 7th we're looking at the figures that we have over here over at least 370 palestinians have been killed there um including more than 99 children with more than 4,250. aircraft in gaza, they're not doing that in the west bank, and i think part of the reason for that the west bank is that they've got about 700 thousand settlers illegally occupying palestinian territory, so they they would be worried about causing collateral damage among their own people, at least now
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they're concerned about it, they weren't concerned about that on october 7th when the israeli military killed a significant number of israeli civilians and then blamed it on hamas, look this israel with its ultra zionist extremists, the the smotrich, the itamar bengavirs and even now netanyahu, they they've embark on a religious crusade to exterminate palestinians from all of this territory that israel claims as its own, they have zero interest in working out two-state solution. "they don't want to live with palestinians, they don't want to accommodate palestinians in any former fashion, and that's why they are blaming uh or labeling all palestinians as terrorists, it's just complete guilt by association, instead of instead of concentrating on those who carried
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out the attacks on october 7th, they've gone towards indiscriminate mass punishment, and uh, i think i think it's ultimately it's going to destroy israel." well when you have uh since you've mentioned bengaver uh and i need to ask you this uh alberto garcia, how uh given the fact that he's actually settler himself uh he recently said to the board of police officers to shoot any terrorists that they he calls them terrorist that they uh see even if they don't pose a threat which is violation of the rules of engagement and he said this quote you have complete backing for me when your life is in danger or you see a terrorist even if he does not in danger you shoot i have your back. on your head harmed is worth 1,00 terrorists. later on he retracted that saying that you know my words were uh, they were misquoted. but you when you have this type of uh character inside the the israely regime making these types of
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statements and going ahead with actually believing what he says should be the case. um, what kind of future, is it the kind of future that i guess there said that it's going to hurt israel to the point that it may become an exist? threat to the regime itself, actually when we talk about it, we're talking about a former member of the kan movement, actually moved brooklyn new yorker called baruch goldstein to commit massacre in hebron mosque in 1994 killing 29 people uh that movement was considered to be a terrorist organization until not too long ago and this itama bengivir has even poster of this criminal baruk goldstein in his living room and makes it public everyone, sorry for that, and basically this, this person is actually
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very much needed by benhamin netanyahu, likes motrich to be able to carry on with this government, because any anyone any of these extremist leaders that give up on this government will make this, benhamin netanyahu, call for new elections and he needs to govern this uh they complete four years because he knows that other. wise is going to be charged as he's already charged for corruptions on many many accounts and he will be actually detained and arrested, so he wants to prolong this government with this extremis and he's going to prolong this war as far as he can take it, not actually believing that it's going to win it, because thre and over 110 days none of the objectives have been reached, he has not been able of rescuing one single of... the hamas israeli captives and he hasn't got rid of the hamas
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alkassan brigades which actually have kept very much of their military capacity as we could see just a couple of days ago with the killing of 24 israeli soldiers so uh netanyahu is going to try to prolong and time is staying in power uh doing as much damage as he can do and as very much uh and very well said by our colleague in this states um, they do not believe in a two state solution, that's out of the question, they never did, not even jisak rabin ever believed and even when he signed the oslaw court with with arafat and shimon pers and bill clinton in the white house, so therefore i just see that pahem netanyahu is gonna try to find a way to continue and end his government as far as he can take it. do as much damage as he can in the in the gas strip, well one of the places that the damage is happening, if you want to
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call it call it that in terms of the word being used damage here, which is lot more than that is is what's happening in the occupied west bank, and larry johnson, you mentioned the fact that the difference uh being between the occupied west bank and the gaza strip is that you have the regime forces there that are bombing the gaza strip via air, this is something that's now happening in the west bank uh based on the un human rights office there's a sharp increase in air strikes and incursions which we know in terms the refugee camps um and also the abductions 6200 um is what uh we have based on how many people have been rested in the occupied west bank um something needs to be done in order to stop that from becoming another gaza strip but um oh no i i agree with you on that what yeah so so what can be done mean you know you have the it's interesting you have the us react to these settlers uh and also the eu but not the same way they react to the palestinians in the gaza strip uh that they should have a visa ban or what have you? i'm
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curious as to why that approach is taken regarding the settlers and not uh the life the lives of palestinians in the gaza strip, but again your views on what's happening there in the occupied west bank? well, i mean let's face it, the the palestinians are considered subhuman, they're not real men, they're not real women, they're they are, untermench as far as the israelis are concerned, um, i'm not saying that there are no bombings aerial bombings. in the west bank, but it's it's a fraction, it doesn't even begin to compare with what's going on in gaza, the israelis are leveling gaza so that it is uninhabitable so that nobody can live there can return, what they're doing in the west bank more often than not is they're taking in the bulldozers, they're blowing up houses where they have control over the perimeter uh and then you know within all this i come back to what i said at the out the only country that's doing anything substantively to try to put pressure on
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israel are the hoothis in yemen. erdogan in turkey could do lot right away, cut off the supply of oil to israel, shut it down. without oil they can't continue running their war machine, but they won't do that, because there are too many people around aradan that are making money off of this. so, the the financial and... stock of gold, they're a bunch of poor people and therefore we can kill them and get rid of them and no big deal. well, since you talked about money, what are we looking at alberto garcia when it comes to israel itself? mean it's uh, it's not doing well obviously economically, um, it's trying to sustain uh economy which basically is uh on borrow time at this point, whatever is left of it, because you're not
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having, you're having the major industries uh suffering, especially the tech sector, not to get into that conversation, but basically uh they uh did not anticipate the cost at this point i think is crepped up to $60 billion dollars, not sustainable based a economy that's whose wheels are not turning in a matter of speaking. um, of course, your your thoughts on this, but it appears that the us is probably going to be there to back them up in order for them to sustain and endure this uh genocidal war that's that is being exercised. uh, do you think that that's going to be the case along with the massive obviously military support that the us is giving israel? well, i'm not very sure about that, we're talking about israel spending over 260 million dollars per day in the war in gaza without even reaching the objectives that they first uh thought they would, the economy is going down the train, and we're talking about united states now having primarily primary elections for their
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candidates, the republicans and the democrats and biden. cannot afford at this point spending that amount of money, investing that amount of money in a fail project like it is israel at this point having elections just in a few months because it might lose the elections, so i'm i'm very much aware that this continue spending of money when actually you don't even see the the results that were expected uh to happen in the first weeks of the of the conflict. where the israeli army expected to be able to finish with the hamas militant structure, the the the the brigades, the al-qasen brigades of hamas and to be able to do like they did in in in uganda when they freed in in tibet airport all these uh uh
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captives from this palestinian pro-palestinian uh uh supposed. the terrorists that had kidnapped this plane with with israelis, all the jewish that were actually rescued from ethiopia, this is not going to happen, they're not going to be able to make a movie out of this situation at this point, because it's so obvious for the rest the world that what's going on as a genocide, i mean international criminal court is is going to define most probably on friday, if not on friday very very soon. that what's going on is something that you cannot portray a movie as as an achievement, indeed. well, uh, when we want to take a look at the most recent proposal that uh um netanyahu has given uh larry johnson for uh, they call it pause, um, whether it's a pause or ceasefire, that's supposed to happen in face stages, i
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believe, uh, for the captives to be released, um, it's very interesting uh, at the time that this came, because it came exactly... within that 24-hour period we had one of the biggest losses of israeli regime forces uh which was total of 24, which by the way, israel under reports how many soldiers, but regime forces, but you had hamas come out and say that that amount anyways, um, do you take that as a sign that israel has realized the riding on the wall and wants to maybe wind this down or is that a ploy knowing that hamas and groups have said there will be no agreement a cease fire, the war has to end, this genecidal war has to end, but given that israel knows that they would reject it, they put it out there to say, see we tried, but they rejected it. i think it's a ploy, it's true that the events have turned against netanyahu and the israelis, the war is not
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going as they had anticipated, and there was some wonderful karma, and here they were wiring another. building, they've been they've been doing this for weeks, they go in and they wire these various buildings, the university, churches, hospitals with explosives and then detnate them, and they sit back and they laugh and they celebrate, so you know uh, karma caught up with them, it fell in on their heads as they were trying to blow up another one uh, so i was frankly i was mildly amused by it, it couldn't have come sooner, but that said, "you know, why would hamas want to enter into any agreement with the israelis at this point? the israelis, they release few hostages and then the israelis let a few hamas people out." hell and then they go out and round up another thousand people, put them in administrative detention. this is, i think hamas finally is awakening to the fact that
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there is no negotiating with the israelis on this, this current israeli crowd are such hard over extremists that they don't see deal because the concept of deal is you're willing to reach an agreement that can be mutually acceptable to both sides. "the israelis don't recognize that the palestinians have a side that can be legitimately considered, that's the thing the world needs to get hold of. moving to how we're looking any type of political solution. many have pushed this two-state solution. iran has proposed a referendum, that is how they view this to be something that's fair to the palestinians, which sounds reasonable. nevertheless it's not entertain." at all when it comes to the israel regime overall, whether it's netanyahu and of course you have it and smutrich telling netan if you agree to anything like
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that there won't be any type of candidate in place. so what what are we looking at there? well, this moment, two state solution is something that is been buried by the israelis and the americans already for years, it hasn't been a continuence and the... called accords decided in in in the white house of the oslow accords, nothing has been respected, over a 70% of expansion of the settlements have taken place in this period of time, um, the fisherman for example and that i know personally because i went out with fishermen, supposedly in the gas sea they were allowed to go... fishing 20 miles out and they not only they're actually allowed to only fish in the two and a half miles from the coast but it's actually no fish left but just just just about everything
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uh that concerns the two state solution uh nobody believes that in palestine nobody believes that definitely in the gasa strip and i spoken with lot of people on the gasa strip the two state solution is is is not a choice is not a possibility especially when you have over five and a half million palestinians refugees abroad that are not allowed to return even though there are resolutions to the united nations that imposes on israel the return of these palestinians so it's at this point it's other choice but one nation a one nation where all jews and christians and muslims palestinians israelis or whatever you want to call. can live together and each of them as a citizen is one vote that can decide what kind of uh regime or democracy, the one a half, but it's not possible at this point with the amount of
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settlers, over 750,00 settlers living in the west bank, terrorizing the population of east jerusalem, and having these conditions in which the gas strippers at this moment, it it is impossible, it's a laugh actually to talk about. about this, unfortunately we're fresh out of time, we going to end it there, thank you very much for that, alberto garcia watson, political analyst and activist on malaga spain, larry johnson, thank you, former cia analyst, brandington, florida, with that we come to an end for this edition the spotlight, thank you for being with us from the team, it's goodbye, well... welcome to the palestinian village of alakaba. it's in the northern jordan valley. you think life here would be relatively simple and uncomplicated. for palestinians in area c uh
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that the way that israel treats them is hostile population, it makes them their lives as difficult as possible. those palestinian bidwain families who live in in almost about 52 communities.
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to comply with legislation and this is arrangement.
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the headlines, this hour, tehran and ankara sign 10 agreements to further boost cooperation in different sectors. two key regional players also demand collective action to force tel aviv to stop the genocide in gaza. day 110 of the israely aggression on gaza. claims some 210 palestinian lives on unis in southern gaza is the hardest hit. andy rock slams us air rates on resistance group's positions and advises washington to force this regime to stop his genocide in gaza instead.