is very alarming. of "a four months past since the's ready genocide at palestinians in gaza, and washington has been there for tel aviv all along, directly involved in the deadly war. people around the world, including many in the united states have taken to the streets, slamming the ethnic cleansing, the palestinians of the palestinians and washington's role in those crimes. still, the biting administration has gone even further, not only does it not heat the demands of the public to force israel. to stop the genocide,

it also threatens and stifles voices of descent inside america. now let's take out the reasons why this is with our guests in this episode of the spotlight. welcome to the show, i'm your host brus najafi, let me introduce our guests. charles simmons, professor of law and journalism with eastern michigan university joining from detroit. of also with us tonight is shabir. is a political commentator out of chicago. welcome to the show, both gentlemen. now let me begin uh with charles if i may first question i want to ask you, the us administration, as you know charles has defied all international outcries and stood by israel in its genocide of palestinians in gaza. it's not just supporting the apartite regime, it's actually involved in the war by providing it with money, intelligence, sent. is given to

military advice, weapons and bombs and you name it, so let our viewers know what vested of interests washington has in doing so? well, thank you for inviting me, sure. um, i think that all there is a correct emphasis upon the the genocidal activity of israel, but we are in not really getting at the the depth of understanding of about the us also intention of genocide in order to control the resources of the middle east so that even though it doesn't need it, we don't need it here, but we want to be able to control the politics and policies of the allies as well as the people who are considered competitive, competitors or enemies, so israel is doing the work of american imperialism, and it has done the dirty work for the... united states

for for decades and it always pretends to be neutral or pretends to be trying to put pressure on israel, design this positions, but the united states has generally supported the most right-wing elements in israel historically, and all of the wars, of course we financed all of the wars there and the oppression and the genocide, and it's important to know about us history that this has been a, this has been the policy of... american history from the beginning uh of genocide uh policies begin here and continue to this day right and shabir the are harvard university students complaining about being prevented from voicing support for palestinians what's wrong with that i mean what's become of freedom of expression in america why don't they uh do the same thing if somebody supports ukrainians i mean freedom of expression. in the united states

was always limited from the very start, these this is the declaration that was written by wealthy property owners that they themselves own slaves. what it comes down to today in the united states is your freedom of your freedom of speech, assembly and expression only goes so far as um the state allows it to, if it's really going to disrupt uh their imperious policy, if it's really going to disrupt their economic motivations, then all that stuff goes right out the window as we've seen. from time and time again, especially in the case of protesting against israel, not only do they use violent suppression such as you know arresting people uh in order to suppress protesters, but they also use this of name and shame campaign where protesters that are arrested are then you know kind of shown in the media, the media parades their face around everywhere, their employers see it, their school see it, and then they're essentially blacklisted and then those people are used as examples to show other... people

that, hey, if you go against the, if you go against our foreign policy, this is what we're going to do to you, if you dare disrupt traffic for example, or if you dare disrupt our economy, and then... name of palestine, in the name of justice, uh, we will go ahead and blacklist you, um, take it from someone uh, myself uh, that has been arrested before, um, the one thing that you know they're going to try to do is going, they're going to try to stop you and prevent you from coming back and doing it again, they'll make you sign, they'll attempt to make you sign some sort of clause or some contract or get you to get into a settlement and in order for you to not come back out, but that's essentially what they're trying to do, the the're... "they'll throw money at it, they'll throw away their own uh so-called principles to make sure that you stay in line and that you do not go against uh whatever policy it is that they're enacting that might be very unpopular um but it doesn't matter because it's at the end of the day their foreign policy uh charles

washington is not tolerant of voices opposing the policies uh you know visa v crimes that delive regime is committing against palestinians especially these days let me set you some examples like with" philadelphia sportswriter who was fired after tweeting solidarity with palestine. we have a professor at the university of california at berkeley. he was fired of course as an edit and chief uh after he retweet an article on which it calls out indifference to the lives of palestinian civilians and there was a long list of such instances. your comment on that? well, the palestinian um focus of the censorship and refreshing is... it fits into the the overall framework of us foreign policy, which has always been a genocidal policy. now the world is surprised that the us has has not responded to the horrors that are implemented on the palestinians, but that

is what the united states has been doing everywhere. we can't, we have to remember what u.s. history is, i mean going back from the beginning, we we murdered folks in all throughout the 17th. in 1800, stole the land, committed genocide on native americans, uh, the pretense of democracy in the us uh, is something that the world has been fooled by, the the democracy has not been applied to most african-americans, most people color, working class, now the elites did some some type of justice, but people of the working classes among black folks have never had justice, and so... what's happening with the palestinians into the normal spectrum of what the united states have done, we had if you think wrote the book about palestine, they they gave him hell, he could hardly get on,

they would hardly let him on television, and the they reviewed the book once or twice and tried to ban it, now when jimmy carter was ambassador at the united nations, he had a... a meeting, secret meeting, they said it was secret meeting with yasa harifad palestiny liberation organization and he was fired as us ambassador, the israelis through the apac lobbyius organization right now are trying are have hundred million dollars that they're going to spend that they are currently spending to disrupt us elections to prevent the voices of black folks, people of color, women who are expressing their ideas. simply critical thinking, but anybody who speaks up about justice is in trouble in the united states and that has been the case from the beginning, right? now shabir, american academics are also war it while they're you know posting these anti israel stuff on social media, they've cited uh being stocked,

they've they're been threatened, they've been fired from their jobs, as it was reported by a correspondent in chicago for instance, i want to ask you what makes the u.s. administration so erky when it comes to israel, anything against it? well, israel is essentially the 51st uh state of the united states, but more so importantly, it's an outpost for military expansion, it's an outpost for imperialist conquest, and it's the loan, it's really the loan outpost out there, you have all these us military bases across the region, don't get me wrong, but israel is the one that is ideologically lined up uh with the united states, so when people come for israel, they're essentially coming for... the united states, they're coming for the united states's foreign policy and therefore, imperialism as a whole, so when you know generation after generation is waking up to the fact that the israeli entity is an illegitimate is an illegitimate entity, it should not be there, it's an aberation,

and more importantly it's an occupation an apartide state, it's continuing an ongoing ethnic cleansing that has lasted for over 75 years now, and each what they're saying, the apec people are saying is that they're not afraid of the left-wing or the right wing divide, they're afraid of of the young and old divide, and that especially comes with these academic activist. with these high school activists as actually as we speak right now in chicago uh thousands of high school students are walking out uh in support the palestinian cause but you will not hear about it on the news because these people are deathly afraid of the popularity of palestine to point where they're suppressing the news and the suppressing the academics themselves with threats whether that's threats of violence whether that's financial threats anything they can to keep this in the can and so you're going to see this um i think mutate even more exponentially, and the united states is going to get desperate in order to

um kind of control this entire narrative. one last thing on this topic, um, very recently, um, i remember being on the show and we talked about how congress passed um this basically this, it's not a law, but basically you know an opinion that says that zin that anti-semitism is anti-zianism, through that they can now control any publicly funded universities to say, if you are... allowing these anti-zionist protests on your campus, we can withdraw funding, so now they're seeing that, they can't control this a social level, so they're trying to go, they're trying to stop the palestinian movement a systemic level completely, yeah, you mentioned anti-semitisms, uh, charles, there are some educational standards in the us, i'm sure you're aware of them, they are told to even remove what, what they call anti-semitic content in their curriculum, of course, much the material is not believed to be anti-semiting in a way. when you can criticize anybody and anything in america except jews, i mean, is the administration

allergic to it or what? i mean, muslim sanctities for instance, and their prophet are insulted in europe, and the us calls that freedom of speech, now even hypocrisy cannot describe this properly, can it? well, there, there are a confluence of forces that contributed to this hypocrisy, you have the uh... um the long history of the evangelicals who are who who opposed um and desegregation they you know they oppose the anti-aparatite movement and they are strong force in the uh imperialist colonial policies of the united states especially in in the trump organization but also in the biden organization um i i think it's important just pointed out how the what's happening with the young people. "i think it's very important that to see that the young folks in the us,

the the ones who are activists, are are this is a qualitative change in the us, that they are stepping up fighting for justice on all fronts, and this is uh frightening the establishment here uh, because it's happening globally, you see young people are taking the lead in human rights and social justice everywhere, and that's a major, and that's something that we have to bot, those of us..." believe in peace and justice have to strongly support these young people and uh encourage citizen to citizen diplomacy, citizen to citizen outreach between people in the in the west and and in the middle east and the global south, i don't think the uh solution can come from the top, i think the solution is going to have to come from the grassroots from the bottom, from working class people, from students uh from ordinary people in the streets. "who who are seeing their own uh economic situations in the west

and globally deteriorate as a result of these on these continuous wars in the united that the united states promotes, because this war is not only against the peoples of in the global south, but it is also against the working classes in the united states, the middle classes in the united states and in the west also, we see the people throughout the west in the streets fighting for peace, fighting. you get the end of the war, ceasefires and the governments are not listening anywhere, so we have to stand up and support the young people and the people who are fighting for peace and justice and bring us closer, we have to bill a united front of unity for justice around the world, and this is going to be, we have to take on these governments are supporting injustice because it benefits the multinational corporations, the armaments and industries are the one to win, they making trillions of dollars a year while the mass of people are

being slaughtered, and so that's what's promoting the censorship and the destruction the just movement towards democracy that we have, we we haven't had democracy for the masses, but the little that we have accomplished this right-wing movement now is trying to eliminate any aspect of democracy of critical thinking of speech and and expression, so we have at the grassroots level we're going to have. step step up and as we have never done before and building new type of movement for justice globally, hopefully. now shabir, here's a quotation, let me read it for you, where there not in israel the united states of america would have to invent in israel to protect her interests in the region, the united states would have to go out and invent in israel, this is what joe biden said, you decades before he made his way into the oval office, it was like 40-41, like 30 years ago, so what does this signif, what interest was he alluding to? yeah, i believe that quote was from 1986 on the senate floor, if i remember

correctly, um, like i said previously, israel is a is a military outpost for the... united states imperialist interests if there wasn't in israel uh they would make one because they need one, they need to have um an output in order to conduct imperialist missions worldwide. for example, if it wasn't israel, they would maybe put it somewhere near north africa, they need this, they need a control trade route and they need a control route in order for them to deploy military operations in order to secure key economic channels, which we see right. now is being very much threatened as you see with ons law uh you know combatting the us and the british and and such and such in the red sea now we're actually seeing why israel is so important to the united states ruling class uh as my colleague and comrad here said uh specifically a ruling class of multinational corporations they desperately need these trade routes and these they need these trade

routs to be secured they need them to be secured by military personnel and that is that is very purpose that is real serves, and so when you have these trade routes threatened, when you have people fighting back against the united states military, when you have people fighting back against israel, that threatens the united states, and and and the way it's threatened, it's out, it's um, you know, attacking people aggressively, it's committing a genocide, it's committing an ethnic cleansing, and there is the danger with the united states, because as more and more young people are waking up, they are beginning to understand - especially young americans, their role in the world, they are, you know, americans are living in the belly the beast, lot of people are coming to this realization because of the cruel foreign policy of the united states, especially in relation to israel, where we are giving israel unfettered amounts of weapons and money in order to conduct this genocide, young person has to ask, if i have two

options coming november and both of them are a in a competition to see who can arm israel more, what is the united states really stand for, and this has the potential to create cataclysmic sequence of events that threatens the ruling classes grip entirely. now charles, uh, all us presidents have uh proved as israel's allies and stunch allies, yet the biden administration seems to have gone up further, it's block seasfire resolution a un security council, it's even bypass congress to increase weapon sales to israel. so this is pushing many observers and analysts to argue that he's gone out of his way in support of tel aviv, do you agree? it it appears that he is doing more, but i think that it is the it has been the trend in us foreign policy uh to to become uh more and more desperate as it uh maybe as it witnesses

a global decline and i think that there's just more of incentive right now. now because the dedollarization movement, the bricks, the geopolitical developments that are not favorable to the west in general, and i think that makes it more of, it encourages the leadership, whoever they happen to be, to try to fight tooth and nail to maintain this dominance, and it's a losing proposition, but they're going to become more vicious in within the western countries against the working classes, because the their profits are shrinking and and they're going to be exploiting us more and more at home. um, but again i want emphasize we have to uh thinking of remedies, we got to think in the long-term how we can lift up these young voices everywhere who are fighting for justice and peace and uh and our trade union movements, we got to build unity and united fronts of

the activists and all of all of our countries to work together to build unity, that is our weakness uh the... more unity we have, we can challenge successfully uh all all of these uh wars of oppression. right now shabir, one last question, you us has been talking about that uh too many lives in lives have been lost in gaza, but still in practice uh they give israel whatever it needs in terms of money, weapons and you name it. so given the role that the washington has played in this genocide of palestinians in gaza, and apparently it's vested interest in continuation of the carnage. so could it be trusted as a disinterested party to be able to help and put an end to this israeli palestinian conflict in a just manner? no, absolutely not. the united states should have all of its powers. especially in the unsc revoked, i believe they can use article four to do this, if i'm not mistaken, essentially the united states has threatened peace uh at every single turn within this process, it has

threatened peace uh in the region since the very criminal creation of israel, the longer the united states has any legitimacy, and by the way, this is legitimacy that it itself has established through its own appendages that is made uh through international organs such as the unsc, um, no, there will be no progress on earth. "humanity will always come to some uh some very bleek crossroad where they have to pick between death and destruction so long as the united states has any sort of legitimacy within these within these tools. i think in order for humanity and the world to move forward, it has to look, it has to take a deeper look at how the current order of things is ran. this hegemonic control that the united states has over the world is is an imperialist hajaman. it's it's threat. the world every day, we are more closer to nuclear war than we have ever been, we are seeing an ongoing ethnic genocide being ethnic cleansing and genocide being conducted before our very eyes and the

united states is basically willing to uh arrest protesters, beat them and silence them and and do whatever horrific thing it can in order to make people look the other way, this is not a country that can be trusted, it is soly motivated by profit and solely motivated by profit for maybe few hundred people that that compose of the united states ruling class, as long as they are at the top of the equation, the united states can never have any sort of legitimacy, it can never be trusted, and i think the world should start looking at other options such as relying on economic alliances such as bricks to conduct whatever business it can in order to render any sort of organ that the united states has as useless, inefficient and just basically updated: okay, on that note we come to the end of uh this episode of the spotlight. let me thank my guest charles simmons in detroit and shabir risby in chicago, and thank you

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