of the us-israly genocidal war is moving full steam ahead, even though there are true stocks underway, reports of also surfaced about israel's post onslaught plans, which has been rejected by the pa, for example, and

by the us, when this edition of the spotlight we will look at where this aggression is leading and whether israel is buying time by not agreeing to truths and thinking that it can defeat hamas, meanwile international condemnation against the us and israel continues due to the genocidal onslot. first let me introduce our guests for this edition of the spotlight. uh independent journalist joins us from damascus. also joining us alberto garcia watson, activist and political analyst who joins us from malaga over in spain. welcome to you both of billy, i'll start with you. um, let's look at what is happening on the ground, number of casualties have been reported, you have this example that i'm stating israeli jets targeted area in raffa for example, you have also 24 people to have been murdered in gaza's dar bala region. what happened to the icj ruling that said that a genocide is in the works here and that israel. to take steps to secure basic

humanitarian needs and to prevent uh civilian casualties? well, i mean, historically israel has been given the opportunity to basically investigate itself, to investigate its own crimes and naturally to provide justification for those crimes, and really to a degree this icj ruling, although it has huge advantages in some ways, was never going to bring a hul. to the ongoing genocide and and asking israel to comply um with the genocide convention to investigate itself to to um to keep the evidence of any genocidal acts and to provide a report um after one month and i believe that that one month is is um coming up and i saw a report in the times of israel just before i came on saying that they were preparing the report to bas basically as i

said, demonstrate that they're not committing genocide, while um, on an almost minute by minute basis, we're seeing the mass ethnic cleansing, the destruction of essential infrastructure, the imposition of famin and starvation by the prevention of any kind of humanitarian relief, and when the trickle of humanitarian relief does get in, for example in northern gaza, those trying to... reach the trucks with any kind of humanitarian aid or food supplies are being fired on by israeli tanks and snipers um so you know this this is there can't be a clearer case of of even it it appears to be more than genocide there needs to be a stronger word this is this is just massacer on on unheard of scale well uh we need to discuss this just a little bit more here before we go to other topics uh

um watson and that is uh the fact that you having unra for example uh citing a collapse of social order, you have uh the israely attacks that it has cited um and restrictions on food aid uh leaving the population starved, these are all hallmarks obviously uh what's uh crimes against humanity are are taking place um do you think that uh there's a concerted effort for israel to do what it's doing and what aims and goals does it have behind that? but definitely what we see here is a net clingsing project from israel with the support to the united states and some other allies here in in europe, they're trying to just get rid of all the population and the gass of strip by concentrating them a in specific areas where the supposedly should be saved, they should find a save heaven and eventually they find themselves uh under the

bombardment of the israeli forces, the israel is are intending definitely to get the population of gaza outside the gas. strip and they pretending eventually perform what they call voluntary immigration to a different territory that would be egypt, which is actually no collaborating with the palestinian by most probably allowing then to come into a strip that is between the border between. egypt and eventually keeping them there, so not to prevent them from getting killed by the israeli forces, but preventing them from entering the egyptian nation. what we see here is basically and in the eyes of

everyone in the rest of the world as an ethnic clingsing, they're trying to get them out of the land uh and what they call actually voluntary... imation, but is nothing else but kba repeated from 1948, but with a dimension of a bigger amount of people, where the actually starving the people to death, they starving children, hundreds of thousands of children that if they're not dying under the bombardment of the israeli forces the dying of a salvation of diseases, vanessa belly, let's move to now this post war plans that were announced by uh the prime minister netanjahu, what do you make of it? i mean, we're looking at uh, first of all what comes in terms of this um invision uh or vision that uh pm netanyahu has uh control over

gaza, control over the security uh situation, um, it it almost sounds like uh these types of suggestions are meant uh for there to be a rejection in order for the um to continue unless i'm maybe reading too much into it that way, well no, mean this is a completely unrealistic suggestion, for one thing, i think there was one doctor that had been in gaza over christmas, so december to january, he was talking about it taking maybe um two to three decades to be able to rebuild gaza, but not even talking about the the kind of um the the... reconstruction of the buildings themselves, you can't reconstruct history for one thing, um, but also how do you reconstruct the trauma and the damage, the psychological damage to 2.2 million people, huge majority of them under the age of 20

years, and many of them children, that have indured months now of of some of the most unprecedented violence and savagery and brutality from designity. to then talk about basically military occupation of the gazer enclave, um, a removal of all weapons from the resistance, which by the way is the right to armed resistance is enshrined in international law, so that's another international law violation, um, and then to talk about the removal of hamas all together, and the imposition again of of a zionist. form of governance in gaza, the removal of the palestinian authority, etc. this is, this is totally unrealistic, it's a par with asking or forcing to move from southern lebanon to north of the latani river, it's

never going to happen, so yes, you're absolutely right, i think um, in believing that this is so unrealistic that it's never going to be accepted. the palestinian resistance or by the entire resistance access? the rejection of a palestinian state by israel also is another point that stands out, alberto watson, and uh, you know, when you take a look at that, it goes flat in the face of what the us has said on other countries uh, and and the eu for that matter, if if we can put that in there, uh, so the question comes about is, first of all, the amount of influence that the us has, which everyone says, the us can stop this genocide if it wants to... "the us has that much influence and power over israel, but we're looking at uh that stance. uh, of course there are also countries like the islamic republic that say, you let the resistance continue until there are grounds made for um referendum to take place, which iran believes

that is the route to go. uh, but what do you make of the fact that netanyahu's rejection of palestinian state goes against the us? well, actually..." the um sinus entity and never had in in in their plants the possibility of the creation of a state of palestine. as matter of fact since bangurion, the first prime minister of israel had already expresses the termination of a great israel which actually have borders starting from the nile river in egypt going all the way to the euphratus river in iraq never actually um... program, the possibility that ever would be a possibility of the creation

of a palestinian state, it was never there even when jisak rabin signed the ala courts together with arafat in 1993 at the white house together with bill clinton, afterwards, shortly after jisake. the rabin uh expressed that it was no way that israel was going to accept the presence of a palestinian state next to the israeli uh state this this was always a morgana it was always a kind of dream or kind of carrot that you were put in in front of a donkey where uh this was a possibility that it was never to happen and the united states is using actually the same

method, now is coming out with the two-state solution when the united states has never ever made anything possible implement two state solution since the osc accords in 1993 till today over a 70% of increase of the expansion of set of settlements only for jews and palestinian territories for taking place, just once in december of 20 16 was that the united states a abstain of a resolution where actually the united nations were trying to prevent the israelis for exp. their settlements in palestinian territories, but

actually that was just symbolic, the israeli settlements represent the possibility of annexation of palestinian territories to the israeli entity, and that's the way that they conclude is the possibility for them to keep on annexing all the palestinian territories to the greater israel, that's the way that they see it. well venesa correct me if i'm wrong and i think uh uh what you said before uh i'm not correct to conclude that uh many don't realize that the us has uh supposed to to have been an impartial mediator has been exactly the opposite prolonged uh this situation to the point that we've reached right now and uh has allowed israel to expand for example as our guess there mentioned uh settlements so it's not an impartial mediator but my question to you then is what is the us goal uh over here um i think i asked you that before but "does it want this uh genocidal war to continue in the hopes that it may uh

with all the weapons and military equipment that is providing israel to defeat hamas, which again many not only within israel but from the outside are saying that that's just an impossibility. well, it's an impossibility to um defeat hamas, because hamas is is not only hamas, there are 17 resistance factions in gaza alone, it it's an ideology, and and you can't defeat a..." ideology, this is the point, resistance is literally ingrained in the dna of every single palestinian and every single um people of nations that have been living under neocolonialist aggression um and savagery and economic sanctions just as iran has of course um and uh i i think for me the clearest statement that demonstrates how the us is is aligned with israel and and how israel serves the us supremacist agenda is uh

when robert f kennedy jr. said very clearly that israel was essential to the united states to prevent the independence of the global south, the freedom of the global south and to prevent the rise of russia and china and the multipolar world that would squeeze the us out of the control of... commodities, including oil, gas, etc., and so therefore israel itself is essential to the united states and to the countries that are aligned with the united states. "the palestinians to to a degree stand in the way of israel's security and israel's supremacy in the region and as joaf galan, the war minister said before december, before christmas, they have to have victory in the middle east in order to survive, so what we're seeing is the us tacitly supporting palestinian genocide, but

actually not so tassedly, because by supplying the weapons, by cutting off funding." to honora, they now come into the line of fire for actually uh not only being comply in the zionist genocide, but also committing genocide themselves. uh, taking a look at the other motivation and incentive that the us has uh, which is quite evident in the statements made there by blinken, alberto watson, if you agree, is the fact that it seems like the us is pushing for this so-called normalization to happen between uh israel and uh... saudi arabia and it's banking on that uh, but in the context of a uh palestinian state, so there comes another inconsistency here between the israeli vision and the us vision uh that does perhaps stands in the way of that. what do you make of the us approach, which uh, i'm guessing behind closed doors, it may even be a condition or precondition that the us perhaps is uh posing

uh in this scenario, if you agree, definitely saudi arabia is... not gonna um conclude normalization of relations with with israel as long as we don't find a solution for the palestinian uh chapter uh they made it very very clear that as long as there is no um a uh sovereign uh recognition of the palestinian state. internationally recognized uh there would not be definitely a recognition in this relations and the normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia, but saudi arabia, however, and israel has had a long term of negotiations in the past, and at this point is very difficult

to to see if really definitely is an known as... and sincere uh relation between the palestinian cause and the saudi arabian sort of complex and compromise of sticking to these what i think that is a compromise for the palestinian cost before starting on normalizing relations with israel i see that saudi arabia is not going to fall into the israeli and north american pressure of it starting relations with israel, as long as the israel is on complain to international law and does not recognize palestinian state which actually is is in the israeli agenda

something that is completely out of out of the question for them because they're not they're not willen. to accept the possibility of a palestinian state, so saudi arabia, i i'm not very very sure that they actually trying to pressurize israel or the united states to start negotiations and in order to get first the troops out of the gaza strip to stop the genocide and eventually to start talks with the palestinian nation. authority to be able to find a possibility of recognizing the palestinian state before uh recognition or normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia. all right billy, um uh let's change gears a little bit. there was a report that came out about four or five days ago that uh said the israeli gdp contraction for the last three months of the quarter of the previous year uh was around

the 19.4%. that's a lot uh the estimates has started at uh one point uh to have. been given 1% and moved up to 10%, and then here we are, almost 20%, just like other uh announcements uh like the daily cost, which was around 190 million to 200, and it's up to $269 million. i think it gives the impression that the situation is much worse than what we really can uh see from the reports. how bad do you think israel is suffering economically, where it needs to really worry about it to the point that if you think it poses an existential threat to it. maybe, yeah, it certainly does, i mean, israel is effectively imploding, you've got a situation of lack of security in in the northern occupied territories, where more than 200. thousand settlers have been forced to, illegal settlers have been forced to evacuate, you have a situation um where the threat of a war with heizballar has actually

been described in a 130 page report that was reviewed by israeli media in the last 10 days um that this report was compiled over three years and it highlights the incredible economic impact of a war with hezbollah, an unwinnable war with hezbollah, and that's according to uh zionist, military officers and commanders who contributed to the research for the report, so that's one thing, but the other thing, and which is incredibly important, what country now is going to invest in israel, um, certainly not russia or china, none of the global global south countries, india must be reviewing um the the... economic corridor that that was talked about by netanyahu um prior to october the 7th, um, because you're you're looking a country that is committing a genocide that is

massacring really tens of thousands of people, the majority of which are women and children, not only in gaza but also in the west bank, where now even in the 48 territories where palestinians have israeli uh passports, they're not going to be allowed to go and... pray at alamos during ramadan, so you're seeing if you like, a withdrawal of interest from much of the world from dealing with israel, and that might not be visible right now, but in the future it's going to have a tremendous impact upon the economy, settlers, illegal settlers must be leaving israel out of fear of escalation from any of the resistance factions um from uh southern lebanon. from palestine itself, from inside syria, iraq, yemen, uh, etc. very well, we're going to have to end it there. thank you very much, vanessa beely, independent journalist,

uh, spoke to us from damascus, and alberto garcia watson, thank you, activist and political analys from malaga, spain, thank you to you both. with that we come to an end for this edition of the spotlight. in the team, it's goodbye.

in this week's show we'll be shining light on the influence of an ultraasist sect known as habad and the israeli intelligence agency shinbet has said that the vast majority of these people involved in these attacks are uh linked to um this extremist faction based in the yita uh settlement in particular is actually a khabar. linked yashiva jewish seminary in that settlement, in the case of palestinians that the key question is, will they grow up to challenge us in the future? of course something which you can't tell

about it baby, but they can tell and they can tell that any palestinian baby is a threat to them in the future and they can be engaged regardless of whether you're trying to kill their parents or not, you can just kill the babies by themselves and this is the depths the horror of of the the philosophy and the ideas of this sex.

your headlines on press tv: 141 days after they started us israely genocide in gaza, the killing and destruction campaign against palestinians continue. with the death toll nearing 30,000. the yemen army says it has turketed american vessels in the red sea and the gulf of aden as the us and uk conduct fresh strikes on yemen. and israelies have once again taken the streets to demand the resignation of prime minister benjamin netanyahu.