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tv   SPOTLIGHT PALESTINIAN RECONCILIATION DEAL  PRESSTV  July 25, 2024 1:02pm-1:31pm IRST

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keeping you up to date with world news every half hour on press tv. of palestinian factions were in china today signing national unity agreement that aims to maintain palestinian control over gaza once israel genocidal war there comes to an end. now the deal was finalized after three days of intensive talks and will hopefully pay the way for an interim national reconciliation government to rule post war gaza. now time is
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in washington dc now seeking further support to carry on with his ethnic cleansing palestinians in gaza and the west bank. welcome to the spotlight. i'm your host barfi and these are our guests in this episode. said mhad shah executive director of the center for islamic law and human rights in karachi. also with us is sath name professor of political. science at the bersight university in ramala. all right, welcome to the show, gentlemen, let me start with my guest in karache, shah, one of the palestine officials in china has elaborated on this agreement reached today, there are four main elements, the establishment of international unity government, the formation of unified.
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palestinian leadership, free election of new palestinian national council and a general declaration of unity in the face of the israely attacks going on these days. now i want to ask your opinion about the significance of this deal reached today by palestinian factions. oh, it's, thank you for having me on this important topic, it's absolutely an amazing turn of events, and the reason why i say that, particularly on the heel of the... international criminal icj's ruling uh, which basically has thrown the entire situation back to what the oic and all the muslim nations around the world have been clinging to is that the 1967 and the illegal of israeli settlements that have gone on, all that has to actually empty out, and uh with the palestinians coming together, this was actually one of the excuses that was often used uh by other parties who wanted to break it up, that... "there's not a unified front,
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you have hamas and gaza, and you have in the west bank, the plo, this always became a fractured point that actually caused issues and people said, who do we talk to? now for all them to come, and importantly here, this is very important point, in china, so china has stepped up to bring a new kind of angle to this game with mediator, now china is possessing itself in a way that it is mediating the palestinian factions to come together, strictly in light of this recent icj ruin, this is really something that i don't think was expected, but then at the same time it was naturally bound to happen with the situation and pressure building up, particularly when we have the united states as well stepping back, we know this last week, they stepped back from that gaza pier, which was kind of like a half-hearted effort to try to get aid into the into the region, so this gave a space particularly for china to step up and has been... stepping up
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globally, not just on the palestinian issue, to become some sort of mediator and to be able to gather all the factions there, i mean we could have easily seen this thing happen in qatar, but it it was not as meaningful, and i think this is something that's very important that we have major superpower trying to mediate this effort, and i don't think china is going to let this die down as something insignificant, so that's why i think it's extremely important this happen in beijing and this beijing declaration, it does have its challenges, no doubt. about it because there's a lot of history, but i think there's so much sacrifice that the palestinian people have gone through in the last few months, that this is new chapter that we're looking at. okay, now professor rem observers argue that palestinian unity and this move directed at unit to government is especially important and that's because it blocks israely efforts to create some sort of collaborative structure against palestinian interests. your take on that, please. good evening to you and your guest. from karache
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and to all your viewers, you know this issue became very very complicated, let me well, i think that your guest in karachi a little bit optim. about it and i do agree with them because that's what we want by the end of the day that all palestinians to be united in front of what's going today in gaza and for the rehabilitation of gaza later on. this is something yes we do agree with and we do like it, but let me just give you the reflection the palestinian people, especially this day after yesterday uh of this meeting, um, they are very skeptical because this is not the first meeting, this is... "now they were in moscow, they were in cairo, they were in qatar, they were so many times we have these meetings and we end up with nothing, maybe this time will be different, i hope that they are going to be different, but the main issue here, which i would like to bring your
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attention to, that when we are talking about unification of the palestinian and reconciliation, we are talking about two major elements here, which is hamas and fatih." while hamas and islamic jihad and other factions representing the palestinian resistance and considered by the israelis, american and the european as terrorist organization, and we are looking on the other hand, the palestinian authority represented by fatih and some other factions on the other hand who are still thinking about you going into negotiation with israel and maybe also try to get some somewhere. with the idea of the two state solution, now unless fateh and the palestinian authority understand that there are different, there are some changes happening in the whole world, not only on the palestinian side, after 7th of october, it
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will be really, really very hard, and they are not going to go on, because already the american and the israeli are not happy with this meeting and they are criticizing. the palestinian authority, adding to that that israel said, we don't even want the palestinian authority to be to be in gaza after the end of the war. however, let me just add this, israel can't determine what's going on on the ground, because by the end of the day they didn't win this war in the first place to determine what's going on in gaza, so to say that hamas shouldn't be there, who are you to say that? you didn't defeat hamas or the palestinian resistance there. you didn't end them and plus we have to add that hamas is not only as israel would like to to see as a military organization, this is al-qassan brigade, maybe they gave them a few few punches here and there during this this
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genocidal battle, but at the same time hamas is a profound part of the palestinian people, it's hamas, the the public opinion about it, the the... support for it, it it's it's too much, it's neither israel or america or anyone else could say that we will exclude, exclude hamas, they can't say that, palestinian in west bank should understand that, and especially i'm talking about fatih and the palestinian leadership should understand that and should work with hamas together and to say that that's it, we are going to have this unity government for all the palestinian factions, the 14 of them, and in such case we have like more than 90% support of all the palestinian people to say, we are the one who is going to run the show, not israel, not the americans, that's right, professor, and and we hear that it said that all the 14 factions who have signed this agreement, they will have the representative in that uh council to govern post gaza,
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hopefully things will go smooth and out. shah, the fact that palestinin factions have come to consensus, several times there were bits, they failed, this time, it's never been like this, and hopefully it will continue as it is, so this is another failure for the televiv regime's war machine, isn't it? because palestinan groups are saying it's this very genocidal war on the gaza's trip that's motivated them to set aside their differences and get together and come to this agreement. yeah, absolutely, and i think absolutely professor was very true on this that this has happened a lot and there was. efforts, even when the election happened after that 2007, there were efforts and of course they failed, but the circumstances were not the same, the the challenges that we look at now, that this has taken nine months into this, tens of thousands of palestinian lives have been sacrificed, so the situation
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is particularly different than it has been before, number one, number two, i think what's really interesting that i emphasized in my initial reaction was the involvement of china and beijing. and i think that is extremely important here, because china has a bigger cloud to kind of ensure this to push it to go through, and i think that's something that we are, we need to count and take into consideration that china has never done. something like this, it's given comments, it's going supporting statements, maybe even some aid, but it has never tried to politically try to enter the zone and try to mediate the solution out of this, and that i think is extremely important in this case scenario and why i think that we really need to pay att okay, unfortunately we had this technical problem, i'm not sure if we have mob back. you hear me? we don't hear, yes i
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hear you, but i'm just kind of reiterating the fact that china's role, yeah, yes, go ahead, i'm not too sureif, yeah, so i'm saying that this is the significant thing that i'm emphasizing that china's role in this is what's really significant, it's a global superpower, it has more cloud, it has more political cards to play with with all the indirect players as well, so... and for which has been criticized even by his own inner circle and officials so given this uh what do you see on the horizon uh? in terms of this uh palestine agreement recently reached, how do you see what's future holding
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for palestinians post gaza war? yeah, well i think the israeli do have something in their mind about the next day in gaza, and there was a plan set by galant, the defense minister in israel or the war minister if you like in in israel, but netanyahu refused it at that time, now they he accepted it now and last thursday there was a secret meeting in abu dhabi in in the emirates between the americans, the israelis and the emiratis and that was just last thursday and it was secret meeting as they said, but it was some of the elements were exposed about what was going on. the idea for israel now is to bring the emirates and some other arab countries forces uh to gaza. no hamas at all and even they don't want the palestinian authority also to
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be in in in gaza and the arab these arab troops coming to gaza in order to arrange the situation in gaza for creating a new government in gazza to rule gaza and to you know arrange the situation in gazza and to restart or start the rehabilitation of gaza now these kind. of news is coming also before that, we heard that many times and israeli expressed these kind of ideas that they don't want the palestinians, particularly neither the palestinian authority and ramal nor the hamas or the palestinian resistance to rule in hamas or in in gaza or to have anything to do with it in gaza, and they want to bring these arab countries, the the idea is also talking about egyptian troops as well as jordanian troops in addition to the qatari, the emarati troops and maybe saudi, but i
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don't, i don't think that they will participate, so the idea here is that these forces will replace the israeli army in order to eliminate or to finish the idea that hamas might be again controlling gaza, that's the idea from netanyahu's point of view, and again i go to say that he didn't win this war yet to say that he could, determine what's going on in gaza and i believe that the people of gaza and especially the resistance in gaza who they they are the one was are going to say what's going after the war and now after the meeting in in bechin it's quite good you to hear about the agreement between all the palestinian factions in spite of the skeptical situation but i believe that this is the only answer. that the palestinian do determine, regardless of netanyahu, regardless of the americans, the palestinian
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should determine how to run things not only in gaza but also in the west bank and to go later on for an elections and that will be you know the legitimate government regardless of anyone who's going to say anything, this is the people voting for it, so i think that yes uh netanyahu is trying to well even if he stopped the war to continue. with atrocities against gaza and against the palestinians in general because it's also going on in the west bank today and uh the idea of of netanyahu is to end the palestinians and to end the palestinian coast. in general, so he is suggesting these kind of ideas, but i think that the palestinian resistance in gaza is still in in its power and still there, and they could also say whatever they wanted to say, and they will show immediately after the war ended that they are still presents and this war didn't finish them as netanyahu
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would wish or dream about. okay, now masha, you know, netanyahu is... in washington dc as we speak, so well i want you repeating to uh channel, what the hell is doing there, i mean does it have to do anything with the fact that president biden just stepped down is notuh running for reelection, camilla harris is now going to do that, would it make any different in the first place, what is it doing there trying to get the uh more support to and more money and logistics, intelligence, whatever else that they need to uh push ahead with the genocide in gaza and maybe other. issues as well, what's what's on your mind, would it make in a difference - who takes the helm of the white house? yell, i think you're absolutely right, the reason why he's there is because of biden and biden stepping down, this was completely unexpected, obviously harris is supposed to be uh the one that's tapped for the shoulder, there is obviously undo um public support and
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the polls that trump is now most likely going to seal the deal, so this... situation has only transpired in america in a different way, and i think that's the reason why netanyahu is there to see if he can scramble to grab something, especially because last week, like i said, the americans pulled out on that half-hearted effort of the peer, that peer that they were making in gaza, that aid pier, they they cancelled the plans for that, and that was something that biden had spoke about, biden was very basicerously saying this rafa is the red line, and now maybe netanyahu is there to see if the red line has changed and can he go in. and he pushed the issue, but i think one thing we fail to forget is the israeli public has now gotten more viciperous against nanyahu, as now the call has been hostages coming home or resign, and i think that has pushed the issue to the next level, and i think netanyahu is balancing too many things and he's teetering at the top and eventually is most likely
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predicted to fall, so something as my fellow colleague professor mentioned from ramala that they're talking to the emiratis. "emiratis will be foolish to get involved with something like this, taking on the responsibility. you have to understand if anybody has studied history, they will understand that the egyptians and jordanians played this role very early on, and they regretted it, and they gave, they gave that power to the palestinian people, and it should be the palestinians to decide what the future is. not other nations should be a part of that. israel just wants to pass on the buck to another gulf nation so that they can take in this responsibility." and they can do their dirty work in perse and perhaps maybe the reaction of the palestinians would be different, this is not a long-term plan, the palestinian people deserve a state, the europeans have come to this conclusion, not only that, but the icj ruling has been very clear that the occupation of these lands needs to be emptied out immediately, and not only that, i think what's really important is
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the call for reperations, and i think that was really important in the icj ruling as well, so um... "this is a half-hearted attempt and i think netanyahu is just scrambling to see if he can push the issue as much as possible, but with the pressure that southern lebanon, with the local pressure that he's have, with the icj pressure and now china's involvement, i don't think this is a really smart decision, i think the emirati is maybe just entertaining them a conversation on the side, because you know the gulf nations are kind of playing both sides here, there's the russia, chinese camp that's trying to have a little bit more influence and they're realizing that, and we we seen that even recently." with with uae were giving reference to that they had a meet down with the taliban uh right before he went for haj the leader from the taliban so i think you know there something that the emirates are just playing politics to be honest i don't think that's going to bear any fition but that isn't a sustainable solution sorry decision has to be from palestinians okay i'm sorry for jumping in we have only two minutes m if you allow me i'll put a question to professor nem professor once this uh ruinous
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genocidal war on gaza comes to an end what would you think would be the solution because china is pushing for this two state solution, what's the solution to end this conflict once and for all? two state solution, applipisit by all palestinians, what's the way? well, yes, we have discussed that many times before if you remember, i don't believe and lots of palestinians don't believe that the two state solution is go still valid, and rather we are talking about you, two states illusion, because you know as far as the state of... israel in its form today and in their mentality and zianist movement as movement was you know giving the background ideology for this state still exist it means there will be no solution, no two state and not even whatever state could be even imagined, but the word would like to talk always about the two state solution, because this is
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something everyone agreed to, but they know, especially the chinese, they do know that there will be no two state solution as far as israel is still as it is with their mentality and their their racism and also the zionist movement as national movement for all jews only, so i don't think that the... "the idea of two state solution is still valid, but what we rather wanted to do is to form kind of a front in the whole world to condemn israel and to put sanctions on israel and to put also lots of of other punishments to israel to end this regime as a regime as racist regime, colonialist regime, and we have no problem with jews as jews, we could can live together, so i think the solution will be one state solution. all right, appreciate that, that's all the time we have..." shah in karachi, sat nramalah, thank you so much for the input and insight and thank you for watching this episode of the spotlight on press tv, up in your host brus
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the headlines, more palestinians are killed in israeli strikes on gaz the day after the regime's prime minister defended his genocidal war an address to the us congress, best the exclusive local officials and say the port city remains fully operational despite the recent israeli attack and russian president vladimir putin warns of escalation the situation in west asia during a meeting with his visiting syrian counterpart.