a welcome everyone, now the israeli regime continues to be the leading authority when it comes to violating international laws and norms. the entity in tel aviv has committed so many war crimes in gaza in the last 10 months, it can keep prosecutors busy for decades adjudicating. from a wholesale

slaughter of civilians, withholding food and of medicine as a war tactic, targeting health, sanitation and education infrastructure to killing kids, doctors, medics and journalists, carrying out attacks on sovereign countries in the region, and pitting arab leaders against one another, and targeting top resistance leaders, both military and political figures, has sent ripples of insecurity and instability throughout west asia, region that is truly fed up with washington and tel aviv's adventurism and is about to push back in a very decisive manner. this is topic of this episode of your press tv's spotlight. joining us is don debar radio host and journalist from cpr news from osening new york and zakir ah attorney activist and political analyst joining us out of johannesburg. gentlemen,

i'd like to welcome you both to the program here, i hope you're both safe and doing well, uh, dawn davar out of new york, we're going to start with you, the iran's new president, don masusian said that, why are we, iran always expected to reduce regional uh tensions due to israel's adventurism, exercise restraint when israel uh uh behaves recklessy, why is the owness always put on us instead of them? "this is actually something i know something about, i'm the oldest of six children, and this was my question to my parents most of the time that i was growing up, they would, say they're going out to dinner or something, and they would leave me in charge, my next oldest brother and i, of the other four children, we would have to work basically and maintain them, well they got to scamper and play and do whatever crazy reckless things children did, you're the grown-up at..." the neighborhood, um, there's of

a responsibility that comes with that, there's also a destiny that comes with that. israel, such as it is, is a passing flash in that area, with the mythology of it being eternal, it is actually rather you, momentary phenomenon that has very short life, and what iran has to do and the rest of the region really has to do is survive it, period, wait it out, it'll be going soon enough, there's no need to risk. anything larger than you of have to risk in order to get past israel because it'll be gone soon enough of its own design. all right, good stuff uh don and zack here welcome to the conversation your your initial thoughts and and i love don'suh um analogy there in his comparison just lacking of one thing and that's the fact that family unit there's a lot of love involved and and so guess what you kind of you you you sacrifice out of the sake of kinhood of love but the israeli regime only loves itself. and

basically despises the region with everyone in it. most definitely, i agree with mr. debar that the israeli entity is a temporary entity. the problem is that it is backed by one of the earthwile superpowers, hyperpowers i would say, but now a superpower, and the field is now no longer unipolar world, it's a multipolar world, and we see this within the context of the empire, when we talk about the empire, it's very clear to see right now with the number of assets that are coming into the region, us assets, f22 raptors coming into alludaid airbase, the nato awacs are all airborn, the e3 centuries are all airborn, french planes are airborn to protect israel, so what we are talking about now is the entire ' structure of imperialism coming to

bay to protect the illegitimate state of israel. israel has committed genocide. i don't think it is questionable any longer and i think... "the grotesk nature of this genocide has been exposed in the most recent videos that have been leaked from the prison where it clearly shows how israeli soldiers are raping palestinian prisoners. in fact a survey was done on an israeli channel and 47% agreed that it is okay, it's legitimate to use rape as a tool during this particular war. this is very disturbing fact, but it lens" to the version of my fellow panelist that a entity of this nature can only be temporary, it cannot continue, and much like the apartate regime in south africa, so too does the apartate regime in israel have limitation and has an expiry date, however

the problem with these types of regimes is that towards the end of their life, they become extremely violent, and the difficulty here that we have is that south africa has had few nuclear weapons, it was meant as the final card, funny enough given by israel, the nuclear triggers came from israel, but in the case of israel they are willing to exterminate not only themselves but everyone in the region, and this is under the samson principle, and we've already seen how they've used the hannibal directive, so extremely dangerous and the the owners, i agree, should be on israel right now to restrain itself, in fact i had the... conversation with a colleague this afternoon, why is it that israel goes ahead, assassinates leaders in different capitals of the world, violating diplomatic protections and then the rest of the world have to restain their responses, but i guess it's what my colleague says is that responsibility, a long-term vision, and

iran is a responsible nation, but violation of honor cannot be accepted. interesting take, zakir and don, you want to away in on zakir? take there that when it comes to israel's adventurism in the region at this point it's behaving like wounded and dangerous uh uh animal. i like that analogy, but also uh how do you assess the impacts of uh israel's behavior in the region over the last five or 10 years and the impacts it has on the security and and stability of west asia? yeah, i think the characterization is accurate and and i think that the analogy to that kind of behavior do wounded animal. was accurate also, and i think it should be considered also in the context of the uh empire, the american or european or whatever colonial empire, it's wounded now, look, i'm looking at china, well how china has risen as

as against the uh empire, against the us and the eu particularly uh over the last 35 years or so, and the... methodology that's been used to just assemble alliances based on mutual, mutual interests, win win. um, this is the model for the civilization that will survive if we do survive, if we get through this period with the empire collapsing now, where you have everywhere someone has finger and a button, a samson option, and you larger the set of characters, the more likely. the psychopathy of the person with the finger on the button will cause them to actually push it and take us all down with the temple. if we survive that, however, the model that will replace it and allow us to continue our existence and to thrive, will be one is based on this collaborative model, and i think that

this is the strength that we have, all of us, those that oppose this empire, this type of world, you know, for whatever reason, wherever we're located. "and that includes a responsibility to look at the material consequences of every action that we take, which is not something that the other side does, and to make sure that even though this might be more just in the short term, or might give more emotional satisfaction or honor in in the short term, that the thing that will allow us to survive from one move to the next and enhance our position for the following..." move is the one that we need to take, that we owe that to ourselves, actually. interesting, as zakir, now you very well know 57 nations just showed up and attended this extraordinary um session of the organization of islamic cooperation in jetta, saudi arabia called for by pakistan and iran,

they all condemned hamas chief ismaal hania's assassination in tehran and said it is within iran's a full right to respond in kind to that. how do you see things playing out? i think this follows through with what we've been discussing with mr. is that iran has acted in a very responsible manner, the islamic... republic is not one that is irrational and brash, no, it acts in a very responsible manner, and by calling emergency meeting of the the islamic organizations, what it's done is that it's taken the entire region into its confidence, they have not retaliated and risked an open war with israel, right now it's been wars of attrition, but this would inevitably open up direct confrontation with the zionist entity. "and the spill over is not just in the islamic republic or whether it is lubnan or

syria or whether it is in yemen, it's going to be the entire near east, that's exactly what the the organization is for, all of these nations are going to be affected, and that is what it means to be responsible, to consult, to understand what are the implications of the actions that we are going to take, and after this rendution by..." the islamic republic, the statement has been quite clear that they hold israel fully responsible for the actions, namely the assassination of smile hania, the political head political head of hamas, so this is an act of responsibility, and it also builds of what my colleague has said that the system that is going to replace the imperial system is definitely one that we are going to be seeing one of cooperation, that's exactly. what we are seeing now, we see the seeds of this going forward, and i believe that the

peoples of these various countries, the united states, europe, those in the islamic republic, those in china, those in russia and everywhere out, they are going to build a new set of rules and laws that will be just, not just protecting one group of people or not applied uniformly, and i think this is the the positive action that comes out. of this meeting uh called by uh the islamic republican and pakistan. thank you and don, iran's acting foreign minister at that meeting at that oic meeting, ali bari khani, he called the israel's assassination of ismaal hania in tehran a quote causty strategic mistake. my question to you, how long and how far did israel really think it's going to push the line uh engaging in these nefarious actions without having to be held seriously to account. me? yeah, it's for you, don. okay, uh, well, i mean, i understand the

complexities here for sure. first of all, you have the contradiction between uh, the interests of the people that live in the territory, they call israel, they call palestine, whatever, and the interest of the people who are driving the ship of state, so to speak of the state of israel, the contradiction also not just between the government and people. live in that region, but of the government officials and the government, particularly the contradiction between the interest personally of netanyahu and staying out of prison, and so trying to stoke this thing for as long as he can, so he can sit in that seat and enjoy immunity, as against the interest of that state, no matter what its intent is, no matter how malevolent, be able to sustain that in the face of him pursuing his own interest instead of the state interest, and of course the people there have been whipped up into a... the the europeans, the settlers, whatever you want, the israelis to where they believe all this

crazy stuff about having the right to rape prisoners and the right to kill children and all these other things are the way for them to sustain their own future, when what they are doing is condemning condemning themselves to early death and then hell, and i'm atheist, and i believe they're condemning themselves to hell by doing this to other people, because there's no future for you. humanity there, and yet this is what's being reproduced over and over under the conditions that exist just in that one country, it has no future, the future lies elsewhere for that land, for the people that inhabit it, no matter where they came from, and what they believe, and for the people that will inhabit it in the future, and for the rest of us by the way, interesting, and zakir, yemen and hisbullah leaders, abdul malik, althi and said hasan, both have alluded now to a strong, unified and a coordinated operation

against israel involving multiple resistance uh factions and iran against the uh israeli regime, and your thoughts on, i don't know, it just seems like such irresponsible warcraft by the regime to put itself in this situation, unless it did it deliberately trying to pull in its western allies, if it wasn't, because lot of them don't have this stuff. make to come back into the region for another drawn out, protracted, a conflict, they've been here before, they've suffered nothing but losses here in the past, so why would they want to come back and not for their own interest, but that of israel's? "i think there's there's a very interesting point here is that the united states despite the fact that they have spoken about deescalation and trying to prevent a larger war, especially so close to an election, the other aspect is that they have been funding israel, they have been weaponizing israel, israel has been asking to do so to complete the job so to say in gaza, which it has

completely failed at doing, in fact general david patreus has come. ended about this and he spoke about the operations in iraq and and mosul particularly and how it differs greatly from what the israelis are doing, the israelis have demonstrated no win whatsoever, hence we see these reckless acts of assassination both of general commander for in bairut and ismail hannah in tehran, there's a second aspect of this and this is found not on the superficial levels or in the media. reports, but you will find this deep within the military analysis from the zianist regime itself, and this comes from a senior researcher and professor of the begin sadad center where he says that the only way to solve the problem both in the north and the south is to connect the arenas and just to launch a war uh on lebanon, they know that

it's going to be painful, they know that it's going to bring israel very close to the brink of complete destruction, but they are banking on the fact that the united states and the international community together with the united nations will then impose the cease fire both on the north as well as on gaza, that is the game plan, what the wild card was and no one expected was that they would strike the islamic republic of iran as well and draw the islamic republic into this, so this does create the pool that is much larger than originally expected, the problem with this theory on on israel's part is that they believe it will... a linear trajectory, when you play with fire in the manner and that they have, it never follows a linear trajectory, and that's the problem with this entire plan, the only way to resolve the conflict is to acknowledge the writing on the wall, as the apart regime did in south africa, that this is an, this is an unsustainable program, designers project is

unsustainable, it is foreign entity amongst the people, and the only way to resolve this is through the disolution. the state and for full integration with the people, one person, one vote, that's effectively what the solution is, but israel, because of its of its ideology of its structuring will not do so, and the unfortunate facts before us is that israel has completely miscalculated, the resistance is now calculating how they are going to attack and there is going to be ladders in grades of escalation, and unfortunately because of the arrogance of the the the leadership of israel, i believe that they will draw this into not just a regional war, but we already seeing the makings of a global war. we've seen on the one side general michael korilla, the us general sitting with his israeli counterparts, we've saw, we've seen former defense minister general surge shoigu coming into tehran,

meeting with the security councils there, these are big moves on an international field, and i think that... will definitely spiral out of control, but the only people that are going to survive are those of the access of resistance. i can't see israel and the united states surviving in this new world, and that's interesting that zach should say that don, because iran's acting formister at that same oic session in jetta, said saying that he said that israel simply does not have the capacity right now or the strength to counter iran, but as you very well know in what zakir said, iran is not a alone, it's accompanied by all the resistance basically in uh west asia at this point, everyone's on edge, everyone is erate, everyone's anticipating a response, so to zacur's point is this irresponsible warcraft or is this deliberate manufacturing of pretex to pull the west into a huge regional conflict? well, look, i mean, that's the

dynamic that you basically see developing no matter what the intent. was going into it, this is danger with the war in um in ukraine, it has been, it doesn't follow a linear path, the other is absolutely correct again, um, there are unpredictable aspects, particularly uh with an analysis based you in the arrogance of uh impunity and uh and and the sense of absolute power um people an existential threat repeatedly on occasion they mishandle that and uh the existence of everyone becomes threatened or or or

unsustainable. um, it is quite possible for israel or whomever ends up with their hands over control with the buttons and the weapons of that country to blow them up uh either in crazy man scenario because they bluffed and somebody... didn't or whatever um or just some accident these these happen too and that it just causes one another layer another layer of escalation because they're running them hot in preparation for use or whatever um it's also quite possible that uh the scenario that they have uh rolled out for us is going to be absorbed and managed uh and uh in essence uh buried over over short or medium term now but the responsible actions the players who see that the future is theirs and uh that the uh future is better one than the one that's been offered for the last f

500 years or whatever to most of us by european colonialism uh and that uh you know it is definitely possible to fight back we've seen that we've seen that the israeli army for all of its might and power and alliances and and whatever other relationships you want to characterize? says with the us military etc. has been stalemated, it can kill lot of people i only have about things, but it can't win. thank you. i don't have much time left, let me check the the clock there, but i really want to get this last question out to you zuck here, so if you could, my question is kind of long, but if you could offset it with a shorter answer, the 10 months prior to operation alaxa flood, the news already uh, quote unquote far right cabinet subsided over daily raids throughout the occupied west bank a record over 700 reported settler attacks against palestinians and their property, serious uptake on restrictions at the alax of mosk, attacks on warshippers inside the

mosque, and dozens upon dozens of goods trucks being held up for record times, weeks a time from entry points of getting a goods into and out of gaza, very aggressive uh plans also for settlements construction, it seems - zack here that this particular cabinet came to work, came to power - to not work for its israeli population, but strictly against the palestinian population and occupied lands. unfortunately, this was the condition of the population when they voted this group in. we must bear in mind that the ideology at the time was that there is an internal threat because of what happened during cypal courts and therefore we need a more extreme approach to the palestinians, hence we have the the polls that we see now, 47%. agreeing that rape is legitimate, it's fine, so this gives us an indication that there's a psychosis within the society, and what this does is that it shows that it's a

society about to fall apart, about to break, and that is why we seeing mass amounts of brutality, these extreme measures, they are pulling out every stop, this is the last battle of israel, i don't see it going further, i don't think we can go back to how the world was on the 5th of october, the end the state, gentlemen, thank you both and stay safe to both of you here, dawn underbard radio hosts and journalists joining us from new york and zaki ahmed um mayat there joining us out of johannesburg south africa and viewers this brings us to the conclusion the segment near press tv spotlight program, thank you for tuning in a goodbye for now. perhaps the united states founding fathers could never imagine that the country whose declaration they sealed in 1776 would have a

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