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hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. there must be an end to hostilities is what we have been hearing for over 10 months now from this so-called international community regarding gaza, as those words without any punch continue to be said, designus genocide continues and more palestinians are being killed, from newborns to their great grandparents, no one is spared, as at least people have been slaughtered. if someone had told you this year ago that 40 thousand people could be killed in real time and most of the world not do a thing, would you have believed that? well, that is the world that we are living in this august of 2024. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. paul rudi, co-founder free palestine movement. out of berkley,

anthony hall, professor of globalization, leth bridge university out of leth bridge, thank you both. for being with us and it started off uh with paul, your thoughts, paul, i started with that uh question in the beginning, mean could you have imagine what we're going through right now watching a daily basis in real time, and uh though we have pockets of resistance and pockets of awareness, still it's continuing 10 months on, what would you have believed that this would be our reality? well, i, i expected for decades uh, that we would eventually come to something like a genocide, that there would there would be terrible event, but i thought that this terrible event would cause people

to wake up and not only see what's going on, and it's had some effect in that direction, but i expected the reaction to be revulsion at. at uh at what israel is doing and what it is and discovering the reality of israel and that the world would react to shut it down to do something to to stop the carnage and the the theft of land and the ethnic cleansing, but that hasn't been the case, every everything that's happened has been interpreted as doing something, but in fact... it's only been about words, about about the international court of justice and the proclamations and the halting of commerce with israel from part of the world, not the entire world. all of these things have uh, it

seems like israel doesn't care, as long as it has the united states to back it and it doesn't care for all the condemnations and the legal statements. and and uh condemnations, it's i thought we'd be beyond this now, yes indeed. anthony, your thoughts, what is it? um, uh, paul just talked about that he thought it would be a greater reaction than we're seeing, and of course, as i said, there are pockets of awareness that's happening throughout the world, but again, it's still continuing 10 months later, what is the main? issue here that can cause this lack of action and stopping this genocide in your perspective? well, i think at the moment we see the united states trying to step forward as if it is some kind of negotiator

or moderator in a process and at the same time this process that they us government seeks to moderate, they are allies, supporters uh... partners with one of the with the main protagonist which is israel, so all along this process we see the united states saying, well maybe if you do smaller bombs or few less bombs, but nevertheless sending billions and billions of dollars of armaments and and saying maybe if you do this and maybe if you do that, but to take into account the reality that this is thoroughly a us operation and any efforts to put a sheen on it, an ornamentation on it, that it's trying to be the moderate party, no, it is belligerant here, it is a genocidal partner in this terrible situation, so we don't have viable system, of course the international

law, the us and israel have snubbed that system, that system, now we see finally the judiciary getting involved, the international court of justice and the icc, although the icc gets keeps getting intimidated and pushed away, but we see the implications that there is no enforcement mechanisms, that these judicial bodies have no resort to an enforcement mechanism, and it causes you to think twice, would we really want the un to have access to its own army, what kind of power would that be, so ' "we're seeing demonstration of not only a failure of humanity of those in power essentially to really confront what they're involved with, the human, it's not a tragedy, it's a

sacrilege, it's a degradation, it's a assault on all of humanity, it's a true crime against humanity, and we're also seeing the reality that structurally the..." of law is kind of a farse and exists for certain people under certain levels of power and wealth, but it doesn't exist at the upper echilons, it's been a... and now it's exposed for the rut, literally genocidal fiction as it is, and this genocide, i can't think of any comparison, when i think of the predominant story about world war i and jews dying in gas chambers as the predominant story, that's a pretty gene we're seeing with force starvation, with now you know sores and epidemics and plagues going through the

population, the you know mental stress, the hospitals being destroyed, and this this first time we've really seen a real demonstration of scientific mechanistic starvation created, you know, and and water, and and i can't think of a... situation like it, what a poverty of institutions and uh compassion within our ruling class we see. yeah, indeed. well, paul, i mean, by april of this year, uh, israel had dropped over 70,00 tons of bombs on this densely populated small area of the gaza strip. now, since then, no statistics have been um released. let's talk about exactly what, what do we mean? by that, we're talking about 70,00 tons on an area, the side of gaza strip, break it down to for

people to understand when we're talking about that this was more than all of world war i, more bombs than all of world war i dropped in this 10 months on that strip, that's correct, essentially it has destroyed more than half of all the structures in there, it is um it's comparable in world war ii what to what happened in dresn, dresden, germany, where the entire city was engulfed not only by bombs but by firestorm, and but this has happened not just just to one city, this has happened to all of gaza, there less than half the structures are still standing and many of them are damaged, but it's not just the structures, it's the infrastructure, it's the sewage and the water. and the the the health services, even it's it's food and water and

all of these things, they've bombed the farms so that whatever food is available there is no longer available, this is absolute, i would go beyond genocide, genocide means the elimination of people, but elimination by various means. "i would call this the eradication of people, they're trying to eradicate the entire population of of gaza. it's much stronger than than than genocide, and yet, we do nothing, we, nothing that has been done until now, all the things that people will claim have been done in order to stop israel have not stopped israel in the least. "it is continuing, it has had no effect on the ground in gaza. this is, this

is the dilemma that we're we're in. the only way it's going to be stopped is if we have enough uh governments, people, movements, um, that are willing to put the their lives and their resources at risk in order to go and stop it physically. the only country that i know that is doing..." that is yemen, it's just yemen, and they're doing a fantastic job. imagine if we had few more countries, uh, even bigger than yemen, doing the same thing, just go there, get in the way of the israelis, stop them, dare the united states to intervene and kill in some case, maybe some allies that they have, it requires physical intervention. yes. indeed, well, um, anthony, a gaza grave digger says he can't

sleep as he's burying 200 to 300 marters every day. hundreds of families have been totally wiped out, meaning generational murder has been taken place. i mean, let's talk about this, this level of barbarity, and once again we say, it it still continues, it still continues as we speak. what does this do? you you mentioned something earlier about this basically affecting all of humanity, what does it do to all of us really? um, what, of course, first and foremost is the palestinians and what? they're going through, but also this major stain on humanity. well, that that is major, major point that all people, decent people throughout the world, we have to wake up every morning and wake up to realization that terrible assault on humanity, the likes of which we've never seen

goes on day after day, week after week, month after month, and and and here we are, it's sort of obvious, but i think it needs to be emphasized that there's no situation in the world quite like it, where you have 2.3 million prisoners caged in in a in a jail, and so you can't run away, so these people inside this jail are subjected to anything forced on them, and it seems the predators, the united. states in israel who have lots of help from lots of allies and are supplies in lots of ways that uh this is a extremely elaborate ways that they're thinking to kill people, not just kill them, but torture them, make it, is this what they call deterrance? is this that will be so afrighten of this superpower that they can do anything now?

mean, are we looking a vision of the future for many other peoples as genocide because? normalized and people are persuaded that we have to learn to just take this in our stride and learn to accommodate, things that no human world community has ever had to accommodate, facing this uh, hasn't it become sorry to jump in here, but hasn't it become normalized to a certain point, anthony, because i can't call myself when the first hospital was bombed uh just how devastated all of us were um and now it's almost on a regular basis that hospitals are bombs that people are picking up pieces of their children or their parents and weighing the

amount of uh uh what a human being should weigh because they can't even identify the remains i mean "we have cross, it's almost, you want to say, paul, almost like point of no return, i mean, i don't even know how humanity uh, is going to recover from this, and the palestinians themselves, i mean, when you look at the kids that they're witnessing this day in, day out, day in and day out, i mean, what does it do to them, your thoughts on this? i mean, really, i, i'm just because we've talked about this now for 10 months, um, and uh, "the words really don't even come anymore because it's so horrific, it's so horrific even be alive during this time and not being able to do anything about it. well, i have to say that in in the us, in november we have an election, and the one certainty we have in the election is that we are, those of

us, the vast majority of people who vote, whether they vote republic." or democrat, whether they they vote for camela harris or donald trump, they're going to vote for genocide, they're going to support genocide, they're going to say in effect, i know you're going to help continue this genocide in gaza, you're going to give israel whatever it needs in order to continue to commit genocide in gaza, but i'm going to vote for you anyway, i'm going to help you commit genocide in. gaza, millions and millions of americans are going to vote for genocide. i just published an article it in dissident voice, but that's what they're going to do. this is how normalized it is. why, why paul, why? i mean, because anyone with a conscience, i would imagine anywhere in the world, and seeing babies being crushed to death or cut up into

pieces, it would awaken them, and they would not want to support it, so... what has happened? what has happened? let's talk about the us. what has happened then that the majority of americans, best you said, whether voting republican or democrat voting for genocide? why? because they think it's their duty to vote, because they think they have a choice, because they think that they're voting for the lesser evil, but when the lesser evil is so evil, how can you even vote? that it doesn't make any sense, we need voter strike here, we need to find another way to to create create our government, nobody, i don't know anybody. who who uh was involved in the selection of the candidates that we have in the united states, it's uh, we we don't really have choices, um, was it,

goldman, once said hundre years ago, she said um, if if voting made a difference, it would be made. illegal and that's basically the case where this is a game we're playing, it's it's it's a deception on the american people that voting actually does something when all the control of the candidates and the voting procedure is in the hands of a relatively small group of people who also control the information fed to the electorate so the electorate is kept as ignorant as possible believing only what they're told right? unfortunately, well anthony, looking at the subject at hand, i mean, there's another round, there was another round of so-called seasfire talks uh, in doha, qatar, egypt, us

and israel, it ended without any result, now the white house says, they're optimistic, let's start from here, i mean, how can sease fire happen one without a hamas representative, and how can the zionist even talk about uh being serious about a ceasefire with? "they have just assassinated the main negotiator for the palestinian side. well, zionists are doing the mediation in the process and zionists are parties to the process and the fact that we have the democratic party against the republican party, and both are under zionist control, and there's a prominent third party candidate, robert f kennedy also. and let's not fool ourselves that the media has vested interest in zinus narrative, so this idea

that we're sort of jammed in this situation, and it's not like the united states is the only place where this is happening, same thing in canada, same thing in britain, the zinists control the opposition parties as well as the governing parties, and let's not shy away from realizing that the people perpetrate. this genocide are the main victims of genocide, their suffering is the reason that we have a genocide conviction, genocide convention, which is now being applied to the people of israel, so what did all of this holocaust education and the perspective of people inside israel, where we know that the general population is disagrees with netanyahu and lot of things, but there is quite a high level of support for the idea of eliminating palestinians, that this isn't just few crazies on a high, this is a reflection of a deep conviction that somehow

has become rooted in many, many people jewish people in israel, and and then we have of course the christian zyonis and such, so taking into account what this all means in the light of our larger historical... inheritance where this event called the holocaust has become one of them, maybe the core legends, legend of our western civilization or the core, well narrative, we really have to take account what have we done in all of this way we've handled genocide up until now to mess with people's minds in very atrocious manners, and on that note, i'm so sorry we're out of time, but i appreciate. both of you being with me, paul larudi, co-founder of free palestine movement out of berkeley, anthony hall, professor of globalization, lethbridge university, out of

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