tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV August 19, 2024 10:02pm-10:30pm IRST
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hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. oh, as palestinian fatalities surpass 40,100 in gaza thanks to the relentless attacks by the israeli regime against palestinian civilians, hamas and the islamic jihad have vowed to increase their anti-israel operations inside of the occupied territories on sunday, bomb exploded in tel aviv and resistance groups have taken.
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responsibility for the attack, they say that such attacks will continue as long as the zientist genocidal war on gaza continues. i'd like to welcome my guests to the spotlight. out of bethlehem, andsai, palestinian of scientists and author. and out of london said mosan abbas journalist and political commentator, thank you. for being with us to start this off in bethlehem with mazen, i of mean the resistance groups have gone to the next phase with these attacks, what is your perspective of uh what this could mean for israel as the resistance is promising more attacks inside of the regime? it must be very worrying for the elites of the israeli regime to see what is going on in towns like genene.
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karim and napolis and now the potentiality of developing bombings similar to what happened between 2000 and 2004 or even in the late 1990s, this must be very very worrying for the israeli leadership, because they thought that they had the west bank at least under some control because of the support of the... palestinian authority and the oslow accords and their obligations, but it seems things are getting out of hand and they must be very, very worried about this. well, said moson, the lack of security inside of israel is increasing every day, what does it do to the psychee of its people? mean, officially the israeli regime says over 500 thousand settlers have left, which they reported back in december since and other numbers, but
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there's speculation that over 1 million settlers, maybe more have left the zianist entity, your perspective overall, if this trend continues exactly, what does it mean for the regime? well, i think you've touched a very underrated aspect of this war, i think everybody obviously has primarily their attention on the the deaths and the the murder and the genocide and the extermination that's going and rightly so in many ways because that's a... ation of human rights a scale, biblical scale really that we've never seen before, not in my lifetime anyway, so on the one hand that's where the focus is, the other focus of course is on on the the military struggle between the the the zionist idf forces, occupation forces and the palestinian resistance, there's been clearly of course focus on that from many quarters, but the bit that is being..." ignored is the
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is this is the is the more subtle psychological war that you've raised and the psychological war clearly happ is taking place on both sides. in fact i would argue that from the axis of resistance perspective and the palestinian resistance perspective the the uh the psychological war is equally as important and if not more so than even the the military armed struggle because what's at play here is really uh how how israel will finally? will it fall through military means, will it fall through a direct military battle? um, they have nuclear weapons, they have military arsenal and hardware in a conventional war, which is which is massive, and of course to have the american fleet on on standby and american support on the ground already with about 20 troops that that are are there, we know off the record that they are there operating, but actually they
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haven't formally entered the fray, but that could happen, and that's what netanyahu wants to happen, but of course this this aspect of of a military, if you like, struggle, from the resistance point of view. i don't think is the is the uh is the one that is preferred, i think what is preferred is a war of attrition, a war of psychological, if you like, undermining of the israeli population and their their their morale, and that is in that they're becoming more and more successful, and this latest, if you like boming shows that number one, israeli security services are in control, number two, the west bank is rising and is increasingly beginning to take on this struck. and number three, it's very effective in in that process of of building the the power of the palestinian resistance outside of gaza as well, so the war will not finish with gaza, whatever israel does. well, marson, your take, i mean, with the type of aggression
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that we have seen on the west bank since uh, well, of course, prior to october 7th, but especially the last 10 months, i mean, why wouldn't the israeli regime anticipate something like this? um because of the absolute terror um that they are the way they're dealing with the palestinians on the west bank everyday government is acting like the people who go and play poker and are addicted to losing and so they keep putting more and more chips on the table hoping against all odds that they will win something. so they keep investing more and more in their relentless effort to do more and more horrible things. just as i speak to you in bethlehem area, for example here, there are two new settlements that are being built, one on the western area of bethlehem,
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one on the eastern area of bethlehem, and of course there has been programms by the settlers, supported by the israeli military in the... bank so they seem to be just plugging along against the wishes even of their own intelligence and military service was telling them that this will just aggravate the situation, this will not bring any sort of security, that the reverse is happening, that more and more people are joining the resistance because of the israeli actions, not being intimidated by the israeli actions so... "i think you know the the rational behind it is, as i said, like addicted person on gambling that keeps putting more chips, hoping something will change by additional investment, but nothing
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will change, and in fact it's accelerating the end of israel, as you pointed out to the economic situation, you know, tourism is shut down, business. are shut down, 60,000 businesses probably will close this year forever uh inside this regime and and i think you know the wast is beginning to lose patience with israel and i think soon they this regime is bound to end, let me just jump in here because you are sitting in bethlehem, there would be some would say well uh if the regime is in the way palestinians, but even then there are some american citizens like me who have dual citizenship who ended up being shot or injured, i a little more willing take risks because of my age and so forth, and i
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have accomplished what i want, so i don't really care what i do, um, but for the majority people of course they are intimidated. but still, you know, intimidating people for free speech, this is another action that's stupid on the part of israel, they have arrested people for facebook posts or for reaching out to gaza or for talking to people in gaza and they have tortured them in jail for such things, when you do this, when you prevent even the modicum of free expression, what it does is it leads people to arm, and clandestine resistance, it does not help your cause again, this is counterproductive even to zionist agendas, if you want, i sometimes think the israeli leaders are so much lunatic, sort of like hitler was towards the
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end of his reign thinking that he's going to win the war against russia and all the allies, and and this is ridiculous, but that's... i think okay, is they are disconnected from reality. okay, well, said most, can the regime handle attacks coming from all directions? i mean, first inside of the... occupy territories itself and then from hezbullah and the northern areas and possible attacks from yemen, iraq and iran, no, they they won't be able to handle it, and uh, it's really uh worrying that they seem to think that they can, but you see they're predicated on the notion of annexation and that's what this kind of extreme far right, super racist establishment is doing, i mean to honest with you, 97% of israel, israelis are supporting it, so i can't say it's just the government, they all seem to have this
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kind of genocidal view, but the thing is uh, what they're a hiding to nothing, you're you're taking on over 10 million, 11 million palestinians, you're taking a population of the resistance access which covers syria, iraq through to iran and yemen, there's which and that resistance has a military capability which is far beyond anything the palestinian. resistance has and if the israelis can't contain the palestinian resistance, which is minimal in its in its armed abilities, uh, how on earth are they going to take on an entire axis? i can't really see the logic of it, but of course what the empire is doing is it's crumbling, the us zionist empire in west asia is crumbling, so they're getting increasingly desperate, the us is pushing for fake cease fire constantly on the just to keep some modicum of credibility on the... world stage, it has none, it's leted any kind of solution on palestine five times since
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october the 7th, it's it's continued to pump out over 70,00 tons of of of weaponry, maybe even more, that's just the some calculations, it's continuing to support israel to the hilt and it's it's it's completely not only complicit but actually involved in this this murder, what they really want, mariza is the abraham accords as a sort of a diversion, want to still try and put this two states solution nonsense up uh for for for grabs as a backup to the failure of netinyahu to do what he said which was that he was going to clear hamas out within two or three months he's not done that they're all panicking now well mazad on monday the alcots brigades the arm wing of the palestinian islamic jihad says its fighters have successfully shot down an israeli drone in the occupied west bank city of nabl how significant is this. your perspective, i think it's remarkable that
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israeli intelligence services work in collaboration with some palestinians of course collaborators to thort any form of resistance, still encounter capabilities in the west bank that are, as i said earlier surprising to the israel leadership, when you have armored personnel carriers being, you booby trap basically along the roads near the refugee camps and things like that, and this is in the west bank, which is one of the most surveyal areas on earth, you know, in terms of drones and and imagery and high tech facial recognition, all this radio, every every telephone is being monitored, it's remarkable that there are still some resistance able. to not only bring in some weapons, but actually achieve some results
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with them against israeli army, such as attacking, as i said, the bulldozers and arm personnel careers, so again, it must be putting, and i think that's part of the reason for the military to be very, very worried and is trying to tell the israel leadership, give us a... break, do sess fire, because we, i'm sure behind the scenes, i tell them, we cannot keep this on forever, okay, you know, this depletion is just depleting palestinians depleting us, we'll stay with me on that, i'm going to get back actually to that, to that schism that's taking place inside the regime itself, but said mosan, when we look at, well first of all we looked at the palestinian resistance, now i want to look at the lebanese resistance, and uh the price that hazbullah has made the regime pay since october of last
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year to now, i mean your assessment of what the lebanese resistance has done. first of all, they've knocked out most of the capability of the iron dome and you saw the violation of their uh their sort of security mechanisms even uh with the iranian retaliation retaliatory attack, you you've seen it with hesbollah. own drones, etc. uh, just this week, for instance, uh, panic ensued when a drone was spotted hovering near uh bb netanyahu uh, residence, i think it was beach residence, perhaps, so you're you're you're seeing is a complete breakdown of uh israeli intelligence, lot of that's to do with the hesbollah's destruction of of those those facilities. the other thing you've seen is that at least two or three divisions of the israeli armed forces had to immediately move north, because on october the 8th hezbulah upped at the anti as soon as the the
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israeli started retaliating, they gave them something to think about in the north and they continued to do that with daily bombings, they've exactly, they they've killed far more israeli military personnel and installations than the israelis want to admit, of course the israeli propaganda tries to play it down, but they've been extraordinarily effective, and that's without using hypersonic uh missiles and and all the latest ballistic technology that they have at their disposal, and uh, i think that that has shaken israel as well, because there are two fronts they're fighting on, they've also don't forget created a huge psychological impact on the israeli. public, hundreds of thousands of israeli settlers, illegal settlers in that northern area have evacuated, the towns up in that northern region are now basically empty, and that's crippled of course the economy, more people, more, more, more psychological demoralization the israeli citizenity, and that's why you're seeing so many people uh leaving uh israel, and bengurian airport is very busy place and
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the exodus has already begun, and as my colleague earlier said, the impact on the economy, the tourism etc. "all of this is primarily because of uh hezbollah's uh fear factor. right, right. well, mazan, there's still talks about a ceasefire. of course, at the same time while the zionist regimes continuing killing more palestinians in gaza and the west bank. now, more talks are set to take place in cairo, to be attended by the egyptians, kataries, americans and israelis. i mean, your thoughts about the possibility of some type of agreement." out of these cease fire talks, i mean hamas accused netanyahu of being the main obstacle to a cease fire as he continually changes the conditions, your thoughts, mason, can you hear me? yeah, i can hear you, sorry, the
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line cut off for a while, should i repeat it, should i repeat it, i got the question, brief what is happening is very clear, the us made the proposal, they claim it came from the israels and it could have well have come from the israels and hamas to their surprise accepted the parameters of that proposal, they just wanted more detail to be flashed out, and they accepted this two months ago, and still the israeli side..." came up with new conditions that they wanted regarding natsarim corridor and philadelphia corridor along the border with egypt, when it was clear from the parameters that even president biden himself had articulated israel is to withdraw from the gaza strip in the first stage of this of this offensive and of this
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basically agreement. and and the israel militaries telling their own leadership that we, with the help of egyptians, they met with the egyptians, the egyptians assured them they will work with them to ensure that the philadelphia corridor, while not under israeli direct control will have enough equipment from the americans and censors and so forth that they will ensure that no hamas will cross the philadelphia corridor. so there was ways to circumvented so-called on the security issues, but the israel leadership keeps coming up with more excuses, because as i said, they're so heavily invested in this losing enterprise of a war on gaza, which is really a war on the people of gaza, the civilians of gaza, not a war on
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hamas, because they are losing that war, gorilla warfare, as we see, regularly see videos of hamas and other factions, you really hunting israeli tanks and bulldozers and armored personnel carriers, so they are losing that battle with the gorillas, a small gorilla force in in the gaza strip, and instead they are killing as many civilians as i could, of course now average between 40 and 100 civilians. every day, this is what they intended to do, which is to commit genocide and try to finish off the resistance by finishing off the people of gaza, right? of course the children become resistance when they grow up, having lost their fathers, their mothers, whatever. well, sad moson, do
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you think the israeli regime as a whole wants a ceasefire as increasingly design is public is under major pressure as we've been talking about already from security perspective as well as economic one, and there's a major riff in the society, your assessment overall? "they can't survive, i mean they know that the israeli population, the zionist imported uh fake uh people of of of occupied palestine, no that they don't belong there, they aren't the majority, the palestinians continue to outgrow them, so that the even from a population point of view, they'll never be the majority, so therefore they'll have to continue imposing an occupation, having all the kind of the racist racist apart. tide style laws to to differentiate and suppress uh the the rights of the palestinians, the diaspora of the palestinians is waiting to return, which is another burgening mass which needs justice,
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so of course israel also is living on the money that they get from the americans and from their corporate zinist uh networks around the world, that's how israel survives, otherwise it wouldn't even economically be be viable, they're now increasing, losing friends, their allies like the... saudis and the the even the kataries and the the b all the gulf arabs who've capitulated and been puppets of the americans and the zinists for decades, even they're beginning to have second thoughts and i worried about their own governance being toppled because the feeling in the arab world is of course rising up in support of the palestinians as well, so i think on so many levels and of course the general public around the world basically hates israel now, they hate them for what they've done and that the lies, the haspber of... israel being the only democracy in that part of the world and being being some sort of bastian of western liberalism, it is all now lying in tatters already, and that's only
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going to get worse. all right, one minute, i have left, can the regime be trusted at abiding by any possible ceasefire agreement and will anything but the resistance front bring victory to the palestinian people in your perspective? in one word, no, and the best evidence of this is even in the last uh release of exchange of prisoners with israel, there are some female prisoners, palestinian prisoners who were released as part of deal, they have now been rearrested here in the west bank, so israel cannot be trusted to keep any kind of deal, and certainly the allies that israel thinks are its side like the united states and egypt and qatar, supposedly guaranteed. this will not be able to guarantee anything because israel has repeatedly lied to the same allies, same friends of israel, if they lie to their own
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friends, how do you expect them not to lie to their enemies like the resistance forces and on that note, i think both of you for being with me here on this spotlight, palestinian scientists and author out of bethlehem said mosan abbas journalist and political commentator out of london and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotl hashimi, hope to see you right here next time, goodbye, the rights to discover, excavate, refine and export oil belongs exclusively to britain, they were plundering iran's vast oil.
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