keeping you up to date with world news every half hour on press tv. hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. oh, as palestinian, fatality surpass 40,100 in gaza thanks to the relentless attacks by the israeli regime against palestinian civilians, hamas and the islamic jihad have vowed to increase their anti-israel operations inside of the occupied territories on sunday, bomb exploded in tel aviv and resistance groups taken

responsibility for the attack, they say that such attacks will continue as long as the zionist genocidal war on gaza continues. i'd like to welcome my guests to the spotlight. out of bethlehem, mazen komsayi, palestinian scientist and author, and out of london said mosan abbas journalist and political commentator, thank you both for being with us to start this off in bethlehem with mazen, i mean the resistance groups have gone to the next phase with these attacks, what is your perspective of uh what this could mean for israel as the resistance is promising more attacks inside of the regime? it must be very worrying for the elites of the israeli regime to see what is going on in towns like j and

karim and nablis and now the potentiality of developing bombings similar to what happened between 2000, 2004 or even in the late 1990s, this must be very, very worrying for the israeli leadership, because they thought that they had the west bank at least under some control because of the support. the palestinian authority and the oslow accords and their obligations, but it seems things of are getting out of hand and they must be very, very worried about this. well, said moson, the lack of security inside of israel is increasing every day. what does it do to the psychey of its people? mean, officially the israeli regime says over 500,00 settlers have left, which they reported back in december. since then, other numbers, but

there's speculation that over 1 million settlers, uh, maybe more have left the zinus entity, your perspective overall, if this trend continues exactly, what does it mean for the regime? well, i think you've touched a very underrated aspect of this war, i think everybody obviously has primarily their attention on the the deaths and the murder and the genocide and the extermination that's going, and rightly so in many ways, because that's... violation of human rights a scale, biblical scale really that we've never seen before, not in my lifetime anyway, so on the one hand that's where the focus is, the other focus of course is on on uh the the military struggle between the the the zionist uh idf forces, occupation forces and the palestinian resistance, there's been clearly of course focus on that uh from many quarters, but the bit that is... being ignored is the is this

is the is the more subtle psychological war that you've raised and the psychological war clearly happen is taking place on both sides. in fact, i would argue that from the axis of resistance perspective and the palestinian resistance perspective, the the the psychological war is equally as important and if not more so than even the the military arms struggle, because what's at play here is really uh how how israel will find? fall: will it fall through military means? will it fall through a direct uh military battle, they have nuclear weapons, they have military arsenal and hardware in a conventional war, which is which is massive, and of course they have the american fleet on uh on standby and american support on the ground already with about 200 troops that that are are there, we in know off the record that they are there operating, but actually they haven't formally

entered the fray, but that could happen uh, and that's what netanyahu wants to happen, but of course this this aspect of of a military uh, if you like, struggle from the resistance. point of view, i don't think is the is the uh is the one that is preferred, i think what is preferred is a war of attrition, a war of psychological, if you like undermining of the israeli population and their their their morale, and that is in that they're becoming more and more successful, and this latest if you like boming uh shows that number one israeli security services are in control, number two, the west bank is rising and is increasingly beginning to take on. struggle and number three, it's very effective in in that process of of building the the power of the palestinian resistance outside of gaza as well, so the war will not finish with gaza, whatever israel does. well, marson, your take, i mean, with the type of aggression

that we have seen on the west bank since uh, well, of course, prior to october 7th, but especially the last 10 months, i mean, why wouldn't the israeli regime anticipate something? this um because of the absolute terror um that they are the way they're dealing with the palestinians and the west bank every day government is acting like uh the people who go and play poker and are addicted to losing and so they keep putting more and more chips on the table hoping against all odds that they will win some thing, so they keep investing more and more in their relentless effort to do more and more horrible things. just as i speak to you in bethane area, for example, here are two new settlements that are being built, one on

the western area of bethlehem, one on the eastern area of bethlehem, and of course there has been programs by the settlers, supported by the israeli military in... the west bank, so they seem to be just plugging along against the wishes even of their own intelligence and military services telling them that this will just aggravate the situation, this will not bring any sort of security, that the reverse is happening, that more and more people are joining the resistance because of the israeli actions, not being intimidated by the israeli actions. so i think you know the the rational behind it is, as i said, like addicted person on gambling that keeps putting more chips, hoping something will change by additional investment, but nothing will change, and in

fact it's accelerating the end of israel, as you pointed out to the economic situation, you know, tourism is shut down, are shut down, 60000 businesses probably will close this year forever inside this regime and and i think the wast is beginning to lose patience with israel and i think soon they this regime is bound to end, let me just jump in here buse you are sitting in bethlehem, there would be some would say, well if the regime is in the... way that uh you were saying uh, how come you able to speak freely from bethlehem? are you uh concerned about your safety when you're talking to uh, for example, a station like press tv? uh, well, i have an exceptional circumstances, one thing,

i, i do have a us passport, so i'm an american citizen, that affords me some protection, unlike of course the vast majority of palestinians, but even then, there are... are some american citizens like me who have dual citizenship who ended up being shot or injured, i a little more willing to take risks because of my age and so forth and i have accomplished what i want so i don't really care what i do um but for the majority people of course they are intimidated but still you know intimidating people for free speech, this is another action that's stupid on the part of israel, they have arrested people for facebook posts or for reaching out to gaza or for talking to people in gaza and they have torture them in jail for such things. when you do this, when

you prevent even the modicum of free expression, what it does is it leads people to armed resistance and clandestine resistance. it does not help your cause again, you know, this is counterproductive, even to zianist agendas, if you want, i sometimes think the israeli leaders are so much... lunatic sort of like hitler was towards the end of his reign thinking that he's going to win the war against russia and all the allies, and and this is ridiculous, but that's what i think, okay is, they are disconnected from reality. okay, well said most, can the regime handle attacks coming from all directions? i mean, first inside of the occupied territories itself, and then from... hasbullah and the northern areas and possible attacks from yemen, iraq and iran?

no, they they won't be able to handle it, and uh, it's really worrying that they seem to think that they can, but you see there predicated on the notion of annexation and that's what this kind of extreme far right, super racist establishment is doing, i mean to be honest with you, 97% of israel, israel. supporting it, so i can't say it's just the government, they all seem to have this kind of genocidal view, but the thing is, what they're a hiding to nothing, you're you're taking on over 10 million, 11 million palestinians, you're taking a population of the resistance axis which covers syria, iraq through to iran and yemen, there is, which and that resistance has a military capability, which is far beyond anything the palestinian resistance has and if the israelis can't contain the... palestinian resistance, which is minimal in its in its armed abilities, how on earth are they going

to take on an entire axis? i can't really see the logic of it, but of course what the empire is doing is it's crumbling, the us zionist empire in west asia is crumbling, so they're getting increasingly desperate, the us is pushing for fake cease fire constantly on the just to keep some modicum of credibility on the world stage, it has none, it's vetoed any kind. uh solution on palestine five times since october the 7th, it's it's continued to pump out over 70,00 tons of of of weaponry, maybe even more, that's just the some calculations, you continuing to support israel to the hilt, and it's it's it's completely not only complicit but actually involved in this this murder, what they really want, marsia is the abraham accords as a sort of a diversion, they want to still try and put this two states solution nonsense. up uh for for for grabs as a backup to the failure of netanyahu to do what he

said, which was that he was going to clear hamas out within two or three months, he's not done that, they're all panicking now, well masan on monday, the alcods brigades, the arm wing of the palestinian islamic jihad says its fighters have successfully shot down an israeli drone in the occupied west bank city of nabllus, how significant is this in your perspective? "i think it's remarkable that israeli intelligence services work in collaboration with some palestinians, of course, collaborators to thort any form of resistance, still encounter capabilities in the west bank that are, as i said earlier, surprising to the israeli leadership, when you have armored personnel carriers being you trapped basically along the..." roads near the refugee camps and things like that, and this is in the west bank, which is one of the

most surville areas on earth, you know, in terms of drones and and imagery and high tech facial recognition, all this radio, every every telephone is being monitored, it's remarkable that there are still some resistance able to not only bring in... some weapons, but actually achieved some results with them against the israeli army, such as attacking, as i said, the bulldozers and arm personnel careers, so again, it must be putting, and i think that's part of the reason for the military to be very, very worried and is trying to tell the israel leadership, give us a break, do sess fire, because we, i'm sure behind the scenes, i tell them, we cannot keep this on forever,

okay, you know, this depletion is just depleting uh, palestinians depleting us, well stay with me on that, i'm going to get back actually to that to that skism that's taking place inside the regime itself, but said mosan when we look at, well first of all we looked at the uh palestinian resistance, now i want to look at the lebanese resistance um and uh the price that "hezbullah has made the regime pay since october of last year to now. i mean, you're assessment of what the lebanese resistance has done?" "first of all, they've knocked out most of the capability of the iron dome and you saw the violation of their uh their sort of security mechanisms even uh with the iranian retaliation retaliatory attack, you you've seen it with hesbollah's own drones etc. uh just this week for instance uh panic ensued when a drone was spotted hovering near uh bb netanyahu

residence, i think it was the beach residence perhaps so..." what you're seeing is a complete breakdown of israeli intelligence, lot of that's to do with hesbollah's destruction of of those those facilities. the other thing you've seen is that at least two or three divisions of the israeli armed forces had to immediately move north because on october the 8th hezbulah upped the anti as soon as the israeli started retaliating they gave them something to think about in the north and they've continued to do that with daily bombings. they've exactly they they've killed far. more israeli military personnel and installations than the israelis want to admit, of course the israeli propaganda tries to play it down, but they've been extraordinarily effective, and that's without using hypersonic uh missiles and and all the latest ballistic technology that they have at their disposal, and uh, i think that that has shaken israel as well, because there are two fronts they're fighting on, they also don't

forget created a huge psychological impact on the israeli public, hundreds of thousands of israeli settler... uh illegal settlers in that northern area have evacuated, the towns up in that northern region are now basically empty, and that's crippled of course the economy, more people, more more psychological demoralization of the israeli citizentry, and that's why you're seeing so many people uh leaving uh israel and you know bengurian airport is very busy place and the exodus has already begun and as my colleague earlier said the impact on the economy, the tourism etc. all of this is primarily because of uh fear factor right, right? well - masazan, there still talks about a ceasefire, of course, uh, the same time while the zionist regimes continuing killing more palestinians in gaza and the west bank, now more talks are set to take place in kairo, to be attended by the egyptians, kataris, americans and israelis, i mean, your thoughts about the

possibility of some type of agreement out of these cease fire talks, i mean hamas is... accused netanyahu of being the main obstacle to a cease fire as he continually changes the conditions. your thoughts. mazen, can you hear me? yeah, i can hear you. sorry, the line cut off for a while. should i repeat it? should i repeat it? i got the question. in brief, what is happening is very clear. the us made the proposal. they claim it came from the israels and it could have well have come from the israels and hamas to their surprise accepted the parameters of that proposal, they just wanted more detail to be flashed out, and they accepted this two months ago, and still the israeli side came up with new

conditions that they wanted regarding natsarim. and philadelphia corridor along the border with egypt, when it was clear from the parameters that even president biden himself had articulated israel is to withdraw from the gaza strip in the first stage of this of this offensive and of this basically agreement and the israel militaries telling their own leadership that we with the help of egyptians, they met with the egyptians, the egyptians assured them, they will work with them to ensure that the philadelphia corridor, while not under israeli direct control, will have enough equipment from the americans and censors and so forth, that they will ensure that no hamas will cross the philadelphia corridor, so there was ways to

circumvent it so callalled on the security issues. but the israel leadership keeps coming up with more excuses because as i said they're so heavily invested in this losing enterprise of a war on gaza which is really a war on the people of gaza, the civilians of gaza, not a war in hamas, because they are losing that war, gorilla warfare, as we see regularly see videos of hamas and other factions. you know really hunting israeli tanks and bulldozers and armored personnel carriers, so they're losing that battle with the gorillas, a small gorilla force in - in the gaza's trip, and instead they are killing as many civilians as they could, of course, now average between 40 and 100 civilians

every day, this is what they intended to do, which is to commit genocide and try to finish off the resistance by finishing off the people of gaza, right, which of course the children become resistance when they grow up, having lost their f'. or mothers, whatever, well said moson, do you think the israeli regime as a whole wants a ceasefire, as increasingly the zinast public is under major pressure as we've been talking about already, from security perspective as well as economic one, and there's a major riff in the society, you're we've interrupted our regular programming there uh to bring you the breaking news that uh has occurred in the gaza strip where based on um israel fire um a school, there have been more than 20 palestinians at this point that have been reported as being murdered, this happened in

the gaza strip, the name of the school is mustafa hafez school, and again the information that we have coming through at this point is that there's really strike it the school and your bodies that are being pulled out from the rubble, let's bring in fro political commentator to get his uh analysis on this, well here we have he's welcome to the... program by the way, here we have another incidence where schools are being targeted by the israel regime where there has been such frequency in this um being atarget of the israeli regime forces and uh their excuse at this point again is that the hamas operatives and hamas control and command center which i'm sure will be included in their announcement later uh tell us what you think about this and why it is that israel uh continues to target schools there in the gaza strip i think it's an older day. another atrocity, i wake up every morning to hear the devastating news of uh men, women, children, babies and old people slaughtered and blown the pieces in gaza.

i've watched recently where they put the uh remains of a human beings into uh bags, they weigh them at 70 kilograms each and said this is uh constitutes uh a person, uh, body, human being, for burial, i think maybe what we're witnessing is not only a continuation the uh unbridal genocide that is b americain on the west, i think that this may be uh trying to put further pressure on the resistance groups in gaza to band the need to the american uh israeli uh cease fire deal, sess fire deal, which is a sharm because the israelies do not want it, it is a sharm because who does not want it? it is a sharm because the americans are only intent on uh trying to get seash far because of the upcoming uh elections uh in america in

november, so i see it as a continuation of the genocide, i see it as a continuation of the ethnic cleansing of gaza, i see it as a continuation of the psychological war upon the innocent in gaza making... people move 5, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 times from one so-called sifsung to another, not to be given 24 hours noodles, not to be given 12 hours noodles, but to be given 10 minutes noodles to flee uh from attack, an imminent attack, and the people who have died today are no doubt innocent civilians and another targeted attack upon innocent civilians, they will say that this was a ham uh command and control center, but they said that about the lcf hospital, they put in uh fick weapons, they put in uh ak47s, stored them in the mra room

and then brought the camera cruise in to say, see, see, this is where hamas were, this is what they uh were using the hospital for, all proved to be fixed, just like a stories around the 40 beheaded be in in in israel, so it's a continuation of the psychological war, continuation of putting pressure on the resistance groups to uh basically surrender to the conditions being put on the seasfire deals uh by uh america and i include katar in this on egypt as being co-conspirators in trying to destroy and deny the resistance groups in gaza, the ability to act under international law and use all means necessary a national war of liberation to defend and indeed to liberate the lands from foreign military occupation, we're going to see sadly, i believe, more of this every day, every hour, it's always seems to be at night,

people are trying to sleep, when people... are cuggling close as families, they think they're safe, they're in a building, designated in the safe zone, and then they're just uh exterminated, because extermination seems to be the policy of the right-wing israely society, which has elected a right-wing israeli government uh in order to prosecute their dream of uh a palestine without the palestinians and an israel just reduce. all right, thank you for that, let's go. on over to dabala and talk to correspondent muti abu mustab who joins us now uh muti we understand that obviously the school has been hit uh the death tool varies at this point from 10 to confirm to up to 20 what do you have? yes actually before talking about the attack on that school let me say that the fish attack took place here in the claim the lives of senior civilians they were targeted and head by the israeli fighter joines in the eastern part of city they can

see situation in there city is still precarious and dangerous whereas the israeli fighter jones attack and kill anyone moves in the eastern part of the ongoing and stop artillery shelling targeting those areas and as you know we are talking about continuous and more massacers being committed the center against the palestinian people and as you know that attack on that school claimed the lives of 10 palestinian civilians they were as you evacuees taken shirta in that school and it is a continuation of the israeli war in the evacuation centers basically in gaz city, if you still remember that the last massacre took place in gaz city, the claim the lives of roughly 90 balian civilians, they were attacked and killed in tabin school in in gaz city, now the israel incubation forces reiterate their crime against the displace palestinians who are still as you know seeking shilter and refuge in those evacuation centers and the israel incubation forces are still stoling them, we are talking about continuous and more massacers being

berbitated against. the palestinian people and let's be clear that even when it comes to hun, the israel attacks are still ongoing till this moment, we have more palestinian civilians being killed, we have at least four palestinian civilians were unalived and slattered in the western part of khany after the israelicubation forces targeted and attacked the tents taken shilter by the displaced palestinians in the area needless to mention that for a play of times the israel incubation forces designated those those areas as safe to places and areas and they demanded the palestinian people even over the recent evacuation orders they demanded the palestinian people to go to those areas and now they are attacking the tents of the sp palestinians in the area so we can see clearly we have we have assage of the israel attack sorging the palestinian the palestinian evacuees particularly elsewhere in gaza strip can you do you have information as how many this i know this school is uh defined for the