of hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marza hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. monday, the 325th day of the zinist genocide against palestinians in gaza, as well as the day the israeli regime received its 500 aero shipment of weapons and military

supplies from the united states since october the 7th, over 50,000 tons of military equipment has been sent to israel from washington by way of 500 flights and 107 sea shipments. stay with us as we take a closer look at what this actually means, as officially 40,435 palestinians have been killed, but others estim. up to 186,ous palestinians may have been killed so far in the genocide taking place in real time in gaza. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. assad abu shark, a palestinian academic and activist out of dublin, and eves ingler, author and activist. out of montreal.

well, thank you both for being with us. well, i like to start this off in dublin with assad. i mean, what does it mean when we say that washington is the main supplier, main in weapon supplier to a regime that is committing genocide? this means that the united states of america is totally complicit, totally involved and leading the war, a leading. this genocide against the palestinian people and the only reason the united states is doing that is to annihilate, decimate, destroy the palestinian people so that israel will be the super regional power in that part of the world, and the united states doesn't care for any any other... or

justification, no human rights, no democracy, nothing, these are lies coming from the mouth of you know those western political chameleons and striptes, i call them striptizer, and let me tell you something, it's not only those weapons coming from the united states, there are also weapons coming to israel, sent to israel from america's military ' bases, whether it is from jordan, from the united arab emirates, from morocco, because america, remember has will over 800 military bases all over the world, the most important of which is israel, and israel and america, which is in total collusion with israel and cooperation and collaboration wants to end first the palestine. to

perpetuate the occupation of the palestinian of to decimate the palestinian people and after that to encourage israel to go to more invasions, egypt against egypt, against syria, against jordan, and remember, let me tell you that trump, i think last week or few days ago said israel is small and israel must be expanded, so this is... israel, remember, israel is no more than a western mercinary army planted in the very heart of the arab and muslim world, its aim is to inhilate the palestinian people, launch more wars in order to keep the interests of the america of america of the west. regardless of any cost

at the experience of the indigenous population and people of that part of the world. okay, well let me get eves in in this conversation. ev, let's just think about what is being. when we talk about 50,000 tons, 50,00 tons of military equipment sint in 10 months to be used in one of the most highly densely populated areas in the world where at least 47% of the population, the kids, i mean, your thoughts, and and and how can the us justify doing this? well, it it certainly can't justify doing this uh by any serious moral stand. it's a, it's really it's a holocaust in gaza, i mean it's a level of destruction and displacement and immiseration and trauma and effort to basically destroy a whole population, so it's clearly

unjustifiable, the quantity is surprising, honestly as somebody who's been following the fact that us has been arming israel, i mean this is even more than i would have thought uh, there's a 500, i think they say 500 air shipments and 107 uh naval shipments and that of course is top of all of the uh the weapons that the us has been you know giving to israel for years and years and years and the us also has this big like uh arms depot in israel that this goes back many years um i believe they've uh it's it's supposed to be us arms station. in israel, i believe they've they've they've opened that up to the israeli military as well, this is, i mean, when you say it's a, it's not hyperbly at all to say this is a us israeli genocidal onslot on

gaza, that is for certain when we see these types of incredible numbers of of arms deliveries, right, indeed, well, what about that, assad, do you think that the u.s. be held as responsible for the genocide as the israeli regime? yes of course, biden should be sent to the international criminal courts and his foreign minister and his administration and also the congress, remember the congress received netanyahu, remember how many times they stood up, apploaded, giving standing ovation, dancing, you know receiving in in in such a way which is so cheap to any human being and he was just telling lie after lie, lie after lie, and then he says, give us - arms to finish

the job, and then give us arms faster to finish the job faster, given the tools, the tools, it is not only weapons, the tools are weapons, equipment, espionage, hacking, propaganda, economic war, political war, psychological war, participation also in the planning with the israelis, sending volunteers, sending experts, sending expertise, participating totally in this war against the palestinian people. and then the the job which he was saying he was planning to finish is to finish off the palestinian people to kill them, to kill all the palestinians, not only in the gaza, he moved from gaza now to to the west bank and then

lebanon and so on so forth, so i think we this is a full fladge genocide, and biden is totally with his administration involved. and i think those war criminals, killers of palestinian children should be sent to the criminal international criminal court with the science leadership headed by netanyahu because they are, this is worse than holocaus, this what is being committed in gaza is worse still than holocaus with the most decated state of the art arm arms and weapons supplied by the most criminal country history has ever known the the united states of america well if now assad talked about the united states and talked about the congress

in your perspective is there a difference between the democrats and republicans and their support for israel does it matter if harris or trump uh wins in november. concerning washington's support for the israeli regime, uh, my answer that would be, i don't actually know, it's an interesting question, because... uh, it would have been the perception that obviously donald trump was extremist pro israel, he instigated the normalization process and all that, moved the us embassy, so he and he's, his adelson, well sheldon adelson and now his wife, the deceased billionaires giving hundred million dollars apparently in exchange. for uh trump um uh willing to agree to the full annexation

the west bank, it's not exactly clear the details and not, but um so trump is and he's been, he uses the word palestinian in the debate as a slur, he actually uses the word palestinian as a slur, um, so it's very extreme, but when you look at what biden has done, it's hard to to... say that you know how could it be worse than what biden has done uh over the past uh 11 months or so, so i don't, i don't know, i think that's a really open question, i i think that most likely trump is even worse, but i would say there's a one or two% chance that donald trump, maybe it's a 5% chance that donald trump will you know act on what he's sort of stated uh kind of off the cuff as donald trump is is say you got to you got to finish it off and you got to this is bad for you and he said that to netanyahu a couple months ago i guess um uh so so your trump does have this

tendency to sort of um i guess speak a bit of the truth uh and and his own kind of bizarre way um so i would say that most likely trump would be even worse as incredibly bad as uh biden has been uh but i would say there's a small chance that uh it might uh it might be different now from the standpoint of those in the us um who are ' appled by what's been taking place in gaza, i don't know how you could possibly vote for for camala harris, i could how you could vote for the democrats, i can understand it in a swing state maybe, but any all the 40 states that aren't swing states definitely vote for jill stein definitely vote for the green party or you know one of the actual opponents of this genocide, but i i really don't know if how could it be even worse than uh than holocaust harris or genocide joe trump, what's he going to be? is it? i don't, it's going to be even worse, maybe, but it's been incredibly uh,

shockingly bad, so i said your your take on that, do you see a difference between the two major parties in the united states when it comes to palestinians and also when it comes to this genocide? you know, uh, trump came with the deal of the so-called deal of the century, and he said jerusalem is the eternal capital of israel, and then he he said, he moved the embassy and then he denied all our rights and he wants to perpetuate our slavery forever and no rights for the palestinians. this is trump. now biden said that he was a zionist and israel were not there, they would have created israel, which means to create israel to deny the palestinian people. and the aim of the zionist movement is to ethnically cleanse the palestinan people

through genocide through other ways, so i think both of them are war criminals, whether he wants to kill you at night, one wants to kill you at night, and one wants to kill you in broad daylight, so both of them are criminals, and this has been by the way, the the american policy ever since trump, troman, troman was... democrat and after 16 minutes the proclamation of the state of israel he he recognized that and he denied all our rights and from totroman to biden the american policy always says that they are responsible for the protection of israel and encouraging israel to launch wars not only against the palestinans but against egypt, syria, jordan, lebanon, so on so forth. so personally, i don't see any difference, because you cannot make any difference between two persons who

are war criminals and they are committing and approving the same genocide against the palestinian people. okay, well it's, i mean it's not just the united states, but the europeans as well, i mean the eu is the second largest arm supplier to israel after the us, why, why is that the? case, although we have seen a couple of european countries actually saying they would no longer um supply the regime, governments like for example in spain, but we... know first of all that germany is the number one supplier out of europe to the regime. yeah, the germans have supplied lots of weapons and uh and they don't seem to be willing to uh to back away. uh, i think that's reflective of the very staunchly pro israel climate in germany. it's it's the impart the way they frame it is,

it's the uh, we, we we exterminated. and jury so are in in response to that terrible crime that we committed we're going to uh help israel perpetuate a new uh uh crime uh it's a very bizarre uh ideology my government here in canada uh continues to sell weapons uh they claim back six or seven months ago they claim they'd stopped new permits uh yet there's about hund million and outstanding uh sales that are ongoing and then just uh few days a week ago, it came to light that the us just uh uh contracted 50,000 mortars and fuses, high explosives essentially from montreal firm to 83 million dollar canadian contract to uh to israel, and because canada has this unique uh arms relationship with the

us, where basically canadian companies are treated as if they are us companies and they get to sell directly to... on uh the canadian government is saying, oh, it's okay, it doesn't fall under our our the arms embargo, which was already a bit of a farse that they claimed going back since january, um, so you know, at the macro level, the european countries, canada, it's part, the reason they continue selling arms to israel is because, as was stated by uh, my colleague here, it's it's a european outpost, it's a longstanding hundred year european outpost, and and but "now it's basically a north american outpost, it's a us outpost in the middle east, and those european countries uh, they follow you, the nato countries, they follow washington's lead on on international affairs, and so israel is using lots of weapons, obviously the arms companies, you also mentioned the arms companies like this, this is good for all the arms companies and that's also very important part of the us support for israel,

i mean this is great for arms companies, they're just you making tons of money, so the military industrial complex is very happy right uh." um so so but but the it's it's a european outpost and effectively they don't i don't think they want, i don't think the government in germany or the canadian government wants more palestinas to be killed, they just do not care, the geostrategic imperative superers the basic humanity that basically everyone in the world, everyone with a little bit of humanity is appled, but the governments and the power structures they just don't care about uh palestines uh uh lives, yeah, it is mind boggling really. well, i said, mean, uh, eves just alluded to this, your perspective though, would you say the winner of this bloodshed is none other than the military industrial complex? yes of course, whether it is in the united states of america, especially in the united states of america, and they want to to send and to sell weapons

and to send weapons in order to kill more palestinians and not only, there are... to kill more palestinians, to kill more arabs, to kill more muslims, and let me remind you that this is the strategy of the wist ever since sas biko, you know agreement when they divided the arab word and they planted the state of israel, apartid state of israel and b for declaration, this is the the and probably let me remind you of an article which was written two weeks ago i think by the... british prime minister starmer which she he said that they want you know to to keep that part of the world divided dominated by the west and to see israel and to keep israel as the super regional power and of course to launch more wars in order to keep

the military complex of course to sell weapons because if there are no wars then there's they will not sell weapons, this is why they encourage israel, not only israel, encourage also any other places, for example in ukraine, they give you ukraine in order to engage in in war with of course russia, so this is the west, the west wants to dominate east and west, the middle east against russia, against asia, against china, this has when has always been that... policy of the west which is dominated and led by the united states of america and the policies i think in in europe and in the west is dictated and by the americans and and most of them you know who are the nato which is probably which nato is also american as trump said himself this

is american organization so they all follow america and they cannot say no to america whether it is in politics in in wars and in the united nations nobody stands against america and the united nations all european countries. follow the dictates of the american administration. okay, well is, we have witnessed so many first with this genocide, it's the first genocide being broadcasted in real time. it's the first genocide where the perpetrator is actually brag in front of cameras about their atrocities, now israel leaders have openly said they must starve the population and have cut off food and water to the palestinans in gaza, all of this and so much more, meanwhile, the whole western hedge. monic front continues to support the zionist regime. do you think that ultimately all these acts will lead to at the very least the weakening of the zionist regime, if not the

end of it, and the weakening of the whole western hegemonic front, which has delegitimized itself with its complicity in this genocide being shown to the world in real time. there is no doubt that the, i mean, the... "the the plan for the americans going back 10-11 months was not to send to still be sending these large amounts of weapons 10 months later, that is a sign of failure, and i've stated this before, but it's the failure, the maximalist objective of course was to drive palestinians out of gaza, they haven't been able to figure that out with egypt and basically forcing pressuring egypt to do that, uh, that's not succeeded, the they have and simultaneously they have not been able to defeat the resistance uh and so they just keep bombing and they keep americans keep providing the weapons to for

more bombing um so that i think is uh they there's a strategic failure on israel's standpoint now also there is a big failure in the public relations sphere they have as you've pointed out they've discredited themselves in not i think the rest of the world i think everyone in latin america'. america and africa and in obviously in west asia, arab world, and in asia, more generally, this is, this is, israel has looked horrible, and the us has looked horrible for backing this, and the other canada and others have supported this to a lesser extent have all looked horrible, so that's big big problem, uh, now, you know, is this defeat of zionism done, i don't, i wouldn't go. far i think that israel is still very powerful and obviously the us is still very powerful um but but this is definitely a big blow now what happens with uh hazballah

and iran in the coming days and weeks uh and also what happens if they still just keep being unable to defeat uh the resistance in in gaza and remember they they fired rocket that got to suburb of uh of tel aviv uh uh hamas uh yesterday for uh so so um you know i don't know, i i'd say it's unclear where things are going, but this is clearly been a a pr disaster for israel, it's been, i mean everyone in the world with a bit of humanity, and and it's been a strategic defeat in a sense of the resistance is still there and they haven't been able to ethnically clans gaza, now of course they have killed incredible numbers and they've made the place in large part unlivable uh, but they have not definitely have. not succeeded in their maxim list uh sorry to interrupt you, but we're out of time, i appreciate both of you being with me, i said abu shark, palestinian academic and activist out of dublin and eves engler,

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