"all is not well with palestinians in the occupied territories, even though the iof regime forces have withdrawn from the west bank for now, the numbers deaths had over 20 falls pail to the level of infrastructure damaged to areas like ginine for example or the tokarm refugee camps. this top of how an american turkish citizen was killed by israely sniper. meanwhile, the gaza strip's death tool continues to mount as the iof killing spree continues to get its backing from the us. this is why the us claims. fire

talks are still alive, even saying it may negotiate with hamas without the participation of the israel regime. is that even possible? just one of the questions we'll be asking our guests in this edition of the spotlight. first let me introduce them. alice rothchild, author, activist and filmmaker, joins us from seattle washington. also joining us is sarah tuesdale, human rights activist who joins us from. manchester, welcome to you both, alice rothchild, i first start with you, this west bank gene withdrawal is what's uh, one of the news when it comes to the occupied territories that the israel regime forces have actually pulled out, can you please tell us what you think about that first of all, and also if you can't put that into context for us, because when we take a look at the occupied territories, the types of violations that have happened, which i'm sure you're very familiar with, has been uh occurring with the... past decades and the past 10

days, it was kind of like what has happened in the past, but a warp speed. i think that's a correct assessment. keep referring to the gasification of the west bank, and so what we see is a similar kind of tactics being used in janine particularly, but also tokaram and tubas, with massive amounts of military might and destruction and killing and ripping up roads and interfering with healthcare. and just the same kind of things that have been going on in gaza, but this has happened in the west bank before. um, in the early 2000s, janine was a massively attacked by israeli forces and this is very reminiscent of that attack only worse, so it's kind of attacks but on steroids, i think you're right, and i think it's uh partly driven by the right-wing government uh in israel that's farther right than previous governments, so they have sort of permission to commit genocide, permission to commit war crimes. from the top indeed,

well let's move to another uh, i guess headline grabber, and that is how there's been this unfortunate death of this american turkish citizen uh that is making the news quite a bit, sarah tresdale, i'd like to get your impression on that, and it's somewhat uh incredible in the sense where you have this unfortunate death happen, but yet we have in the tens, sometimes more than 100 that... happening in the gaza strip a daily basis. um, i would like to be sensitive obviously towards the um woman who's been shot in the head by the illegal occupation. um, but what you so, every single day now, i speak to people on the ground, i have friends in palestine every single day, people are dying because the legal as, do apologize, um, cutting off what? and food, so the thing that

makes me very angry about the situation is um, why does one american life mean more than 40,000 and? can was other wives, that that's the that the answer to that question, they say like you don't in, we had doctors come back from gaza and they said that they'd seen toddlers with two sniperins, that's not unintentional, they have killed this journalist for a reason and um yeah it's the illegal occupation are getting away with war crimes that i'm not sure. that anyone else in history has ever gotten away with without being called out, so that's the my answer to that question, i want some respect for the uh family because okay, well uh, let me get your impression alice, rothchild of this incident,

we're looking at the fact that this is this is not the soul incident that has happened, perhaps you can give us some comparisons maybe to put it into context for us as they say, and uh also uh how and why would israel regime forces um from what we understand there was it was sniper who did this or israel regime force it doesn't matter but she was shot in the head, i've actually seen the video and it's quite gruesome and it's quite sad that you have people like her who wanted to give so much for the palestinian cause to be taken out in the form and manner that they have, well there is pattern of this, i mean we have shirin abu, we have rachel cory, i mean there has been repeated. attacks on people who carry american citizenship who are working in solidarity with palestinians or who are palestinian americans working in solidarity with palestinians and i think you know i cannot speak for the brains of an israeli soldier but the messaging is that these people need to be taken out as an

example so that other people will be afraid to do what they're doing and i think the message also is that they don't matter um that it is very clear that there's a huge amount of anti- racism within israel and within the united states and elsewhere, and so it comes out in these kind of horrific um sniper attacks that are are clearly deliberate. um, you know, but sniper attacks are also deliberate against palestinians, as our previous speaker mentioned, but i think it's a warning, and it's a devaluation, and it also means that israeli soldiers are feeling threatened by internationals, by journalists, because huge number of journalists have been killed both. gaza and in the west bank, so anyone who's reporting on the ground is a threat uh, because then the international community might, might, might begin to pay attention. well, uh, the problem uh, that one of the problems that exist over here um, is the fact that you have this uh, sarah truedal, this far right

cabinet with these extreme um thoughts of murdering palestinians, the likes of smotrich and the likes of ben gavier, who have advocated for uh the death of palestinians in ways that uh one would never think, even though the israel regime has stooped to certain laws, they have really brought that to new lows. uh, maybe you can uh tell us, is this something that's topp down when it comes to the way that the israeli regime forces are uh killing palestinians, murdering them, whether it's in the west bank, which uh has grown up to about 700 plus from october the 7th or in the gaza? trip: i'll tell you something as an english person, as a white english leader, i have never been more ashamed of my country, i have never been more ashamed, international war has been ripped up, ripped up for an occupation, because we

are obviously doing this on television, i've been trying to keep calm, but the things that we are seeing, the things that we are seeing, i saw a video last night of the... occupation force and they've got palestinian prisoners faced down on the floor, the nazis, the nazis, it's that simple, it's that simple, i get told to not uh like sir we need to calm down blah blah, i'm a white english woman sat in england and i am watching there and i will call the day and the first thing i saw was dead child, a child died in in in palestine because of... because of fear, because the amount of bombs that they dropped, and then i've got starmer and sun, both in the house of commons going and soon going, the chief rabbi is going to be very upset that we've cut off the. i would like to point out um

that our governments aren't supposed to openly work for foreign entity, i'd like to point out that under international law everything that israel is doing, israel is not country, it's an entity. 'everything they are doing is a war crime, is a war crime. i have never seen anything like it in my life, i've never seen anything, the're wining children up to take them to concentration camps and people are'. it and going, but buse the palestinian children that's okay, is it? so i'm sorry, i've i've even forgotten the question, the rage i feel inside my soul, i do apologize, i do apologize, we are watching the worst things we've ever seen, we are watching war crimes on levels that every single day low my mind, we are watching this, and yeah, i, i don't understand how the international... community is just watching it and i certainly don't understand how america has got the cheek to stand up and in

my country, i'm english, dharma, both of the the prime minister who got less than 20% of the vote i might point out and the opposition are both stood up arguing about who can defend this illegal occupation more sure so i can't remember the question but my answer to the question is the entire international community should be rising up against this because they are... nazis: well, thank you, i forgot what the question was myself, because i was listening to you, so apologize, okay, that's okay, i mean, when you hear the things that our guest from manchester said, alice, rothchild, um, perhaps we think that we have reached a new level of how war crimes are being committed and the grusome details in the actions that are that constitute war crimes. but there's always for some odd and sad reason a new peak that we see. one of

them was uh released by an organization, it's a magazine plus 972. i don't know if you read uh what happened there, and it came about when uh there was this video played by another channel about uh how these palestinians walking on the shoreline of the gaza strip, they were just walking and they were taken out. they did a investigation and it turns out... that well let me read the title, it starts with a quote, the title of this entry, i'm bored so i shoot the israel army's approval of free for all violence in the gaza strip, and it goes down and recounts some of these regime forces of how they go into no go zone and they just routinely just start killing people, shooting at homes, mean this just is is another low in the way that the occupation forces tering themselves, i don't think the world is aware of maybe this, but uh, i i think the israel regime is losing

any type of obviously accreditation that it may have had with the non-believers, let's say, do you think that's the case? well, i would love for that to be the case, i think that first of all there is a willful blindness uh in the international community and for instance in the united states um about what's happening, you can know if you want. to know um and if you have um doubts about what's going on, you just have to listen to what the israeli leadership is talking about, because israeli leadership, particularly bengavere and smart and his those types uh use very racist genocidal kind of language and they refer to palestinians as animals and they talk about you anakbatu and just their language is genocidal, so if the top leadership is talking that way then "the lower soldiers get that message that these people are human, that they are your enemies,

that you can kill anyone you want, that every child is a potential homoss terrorist, i mean that's the the language that's coming out of israel, and so that's the the environment in which these soldiers who are committing horrific war crimes are functioning. um, now is that going to change the world view? i think we have to look at all the different forces that create um opinions within our planet um and..." is quite clear that there is huge industry to promote uh israeli messaging, to go after people who are challenging israeli messaging, there's a massive military industrial complex where you know lot of people are making a lot of corporations are making a lot of money off of this war, if you look at what's going on on campuses in the united states, over the summer, many many campuses have put together really um worrisome, pretty horrific rules. about what students can do and can't do, and lot of it is focused on defining protests

against the israeli government as inherently anti-semitic, so there's a massive pushback going on um in that side of the community and how this is all going to play out, i don't know, but i sincerely hope that um there is a uh rising awareness in people who have power and in the people who don't have power but can influence the people in power uh to... ch their attitudes towards the israeli government, which is definitely gone so far field, but i don't think it's a surprise if you look at the whole 100 year history of this. um, there are a lot of different versions of the history, but one of the themes has been that jewish settlers have a right to live in historic palestine and remove, display, skill, whatever the people who were there before they got there, and so this is the sort of ethno-nationalism of zanism as a political movement, and so what

we're seeing now is in some horrific way the fruition of the zionist dream. of you know the final uh expulsion, genocide, destruction of palestinians in the territories, and so i'm not shocked, because it's the end point of that ideology, and only when uh the jewish community in particular, but the international community in general faces the inherent racism of zionism, and the fact that zionism is based on harming palestinians that we're not going to see a turn around in attitudes until people really deal with that. so is that is that the point that we have reached based on what our guest there said sarah truesdale that maybe this is the point that israel regime and it's uh so-called leaders uh are taking advantage uh of what has happened what they have executed with the genocide that they want to get rid of all the palestinians from their homeland which is the force displacement a war crime um is that the point that uh we're looking at? i think we're

all pretty much aware of what the point is. netanyahu stands there with his map, his map where palestine is wiped out, again i will try and be car, i'm a white english woman, i had a pen fund in jerusalem as a child, palestine is palestine and we have watch them take palestine and not just take palestine, but then subjugate. i would like someone to answer the question to me, why are palestinians paying for the second world war? we all understand that everyone went through a holocast, but why are the palestinians paying for that? no one can ever answer that question. i get very irritated about this. when october 7th happened and it was like, oh, like, i don't know how many settlers died. god forgive me, i don't, god forgive me, i don't care. our people have been under apathide and and they put children in

military prison, and they've done it for 80 years and... every single thing they do, you look now, they literally put war crimes on tiktok, we're going to blow up mosk, we're going to blow up a school, we're going to block, literally today i saw the lining people up in the west bank in the west bank, there's no come as in the west bank, the wining people up to take them to concentration camps, and you're telling me this is moral army are you, you're telling me this is moral armor brother, "if anyone can look at what is going on in palestine right now, i would love right, three questions for people, why the palestinians paying for what the nazis did in the second world war, why are you okay with people lining children up for concentration, concentration camps man, and then you've also, i saw a little girl and she went, we've told the whole world that

we're suffering and no one cares because the palestinian, so again i've gone off subject but i don't care." the illegal, it's an illegal occupation. does anyone ever want to point out the fact that hamas under international law are entitled to armself defense? does anyone ever want to point that out? ever? sure, sure, those are valid points. do apologize, i'm so sorry, no, no, that's okay. i'm so angry at this world that's watching this actual genocide of children, and like why is this an argument? why is this a like? i don't want to hear about your arguments, stop bombing them, stop bombing. listen, stop bombing children, it's not hard, i apologize and i'll shut up, no, no, that's okay, we have we have more time, so i'm going to ask you question, so please, um, keep with your train of thought, i'm so angry, like children are dying, if you will have every right to be angry, you have every right to be angry, alice rothchild, in the middle of everything that's going on, we still have the us and the us president joe

biden, he's still the us president who says that the ceasefire talks are 90% there, you know uh anthony blinken, the us secretary of state were almost there, and uh, it it's now, i don't how many times they've been at this uh negotiations, or so-called negotiations, but now it's reached a point where the latest news on this, that's my question to you is that the us may exclude israel from the talks and directly negotiate with hamas, um, what do you think of that, is that even possible? well i think ultimately whoever is negotiating a ceasefire has to talk to hamas, i mean that's like bottom line negotiation. i do think that biden and um his uh are hallucinatory a bit because uh they talk about having a cease fire and meanwile they continue to send billions of dollars of weaponry to israel, so the messaging isn't

consistent with the actions, so the israelis have no uh reason to uh go for cease fire because they're still getting all the goodies from the united states. the other thing we have to realize is that netanyahu has some very strong reasons not to want to cease fire because if he ' calls for ceasefire, his right-wing coalition will fall apart and then he will lose the election and then he will go to jail, and i think he's really lot of this um dancing around is related to netanyahus desire to cling to power no matter what, um, because he doesn't want to face the music. um, the other thing is that there's a huge um debate going amongst israeli security, so you know the same uh day that... 'who said that the israeli army will never leave the philadelphia corridor, which is the uh buffer zone between egypt and rafach in gaza, on

that same day his security, one of the security guys said, they are willing to negotiate on philadelphia carter, so they're not even talking each other in the cabinet, um, so with all that discension in the cabinet, um, it's, i think it's hallucinatory to think that they're going to get sease fire with israel, now "if you have a cease fire with hamas and you don't have a cease fire with israel, i don't know what that means, because israel is continuing to dump you know thousands and thousands and thousands of bombs on the palestinian people in gaza and now in their bombing in the west bank as well. um, so what's a ceasefire without the aggressor being part of that ceasefire? i i don't understand that as a, i'm not um negotiator, but just as human being, i don't see how that actually works. um." "you know israel has to be put under huge amount of international pressure to come to a cease fire and it also has to be have an arms embargo to come to a cease fire. well, since you talk about an arms and bargos, tues them,

last question of this program goes to you when it comes to the uk and how they are uh at this point uh after much thought it seems now uh only going to cut uh arm sales to israel to the tune of 10%, which some say that's just ridiculous, why not cut cut it completely?" why assist the genocidal regime um with arms sales? what were your thoughts when the uk made that announcement in less than a minute please? uh, my thoughts in less than a minute is that ker and sun both openly and blatingly work for um an illegal occupation, the most of the uh uk public want want the genocide to stop, we want you to stop killing babies, got less than 20% of the vote in less than a minute, every the opposition and the prime minister, both are war criminals and the country is not behind them, the country is not behind them, they're not behind them, the boat stood there, how

can we defend nahu and the chief rabbi when you're bowing babies up man and the whole country is going, you do not represent me, that's my answer in less than a minute, they don't represent england or most of the world, okay, thank you for that, we're fresh out of time, that was sarah truedal, human right? activist from manchester, many thanks for your contributions, sarah. alice watchild, thank you, author, activist and filmmaker from seattle washington, thank you to you both. with that we come to end for this edition of the spotlight from the team, this goodbye. this week on expose, we dive in. to the arrest of telegram ceo pavel de rove in france, pivotal moment in the global battle over digital freedom as governments intensify their push to break into users private data. we also

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