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illegally occupied people of palestine. in today's show, we'll be looking at how this global war even extends to the annual emi awards that recognize excellence in television and emerging media. in our first reportakra reveals the lens to which the zinist lobby is going to subbochase the prospects of young palestinian documentary maker from receiving an award at this year's of ceremony. the zionist lobby is trying to deprive heroic palestinian journalist in gaza of nomination for an. award and is using key figures from the music and film industry to help. bisan auda has worked tirelessly since the beginning of israel's genocide in ghazza to document the killing of her people and the destruction of her homeland. the 25-year-old was nominated in the outstanding hard news feature story category for her documentaries. it's bisan from razza and i'm still alive. a of letter has been published calling for her nomination to be withdrawn. the claim in the

letter is that bisan is secret member of the popular front for the liberation of palestine, also known as the pflp. who exactly is behind the letter and what does it tell us about this ranset campaign? the israel lobby group mobilizing industry figures against bisan alda is the creative community for peace. ccfp was founded as part of one legal entity with stand with us called the israel emergency. alliance. stand with us was funded directly by the israeli prime minister's office. the founder of the creative community for peace is dave renzer who is in fact married to esther renzer, the founder and president of stand with us. stand with us works closely with the israeli foreign ministry of affairs. creative community for peace coordinates with the of israeli consulate in los angeles and the former consul general david seegel has directly praised organization, they are

effective because they work from inside the industry. a key figure at ccfp who is the first name sign to the letter calling to withdraw the nomination of gazdan journalist bisan auder from the emmy awards is hayam shaban. he is a director of universal music group and a hardcore israel lobbist who has pumped hundreds of millions into the friends the idf and been credited with writing biden's script on israel. israel is trying to directly intervene in theemi awards. joining me in the studio as usual is our resident expert and eminent scholarly critic of israel david miller. is a senior research fellow at the center for islam and global affairs at istanbul's am university and he's a co-director of the lobbying watch dog spinwatch. joining us again is one of our regular guest contributors. it's the celebrated hip hop artist and podcast presenter for mint press news loke. who are believe is working a new album. so look out

for that when it's released. welcome to the show. look, tell us will you a bit about bisan auder's work? so, bisan auda is a a palestinian journalist um who has been covering the war in ghazza from the very beginning, she already won a pbbody award in the news category and also an edward r maroro award for the news series that she has done with al-jazeera, she's also now been nominated um in the news and documentary section of the emi awards for outstand outstanding hard news. david will you just explain then um uh the pflp is, which is the organization that b son's been accused of being a member of, well the pflp is the popular front for the liberation of palestine, one of three um socialist or marxist groups who are engaged in the

resistance in gaza, people of course think it's all hamasis not, and pflp of course has an armed wing, the abu ali mustafa brigades uh, which is not illegal in this country and nor is the pflp, so you can say on television or anywhere else in this country, i support the pfop, but you can't say i support the pfop gc, which is an entirely different organization, so there's there's the the distinction, but look, this is this is one one part of the uh the palestiny resistance factions in gaza uh and it's not, it's not illegal to be member of that organization, but you know who knows if she is or not, it's obviously smear intended to remove her uh her possibility of her getting an award, illustrates the desperate lens that they are. prepared to go to, they will do anything, they will do anything, yeah, well lowy, the the zianist lobby has engaged in a determined and desperate campaign, haven't they to stop uh bisan from being nominated at the emi awards, mean i wonder whether you could just outline what you know about the lens that the

ziniest lobby is going to to stop it getting an award, so as you said chris, the zionist lobby has engaged in a really desperate. pain to try and stop her from being nominated here at the emi awards and that is quite telling. there's been over 150 figures from within the music and film industry in the united states who are urging the national academy of television, arts and sciences, natas to withdraw her nomination for the emi awards. well david, i mean, it seems there. lobby's failed in in its attempts, so i mean, what do you think that tells us about the power of the lobby? look, the lobby is not all powerful, i mean, we we shouldn't imagine it is, uh, it has extreme level of organization and funding, this organization that's involved here, creative community for peace, of course is the front for a stand with us, a

group which is directly funded by and coordinated with the uh the regime, and of course is clearly an asset of the regime, now people say, well, can you connect it to the? to benjamin netanyahu, well in this case yes we can, but that doesn't matter, i mean, the the the movement is coordinated across the world, and and its activities are are are are express the underlying instructions which are which come from from tel aviv and from from the the headquarters of the designist movement, but this campaign uh is is is something which um which is a feeling and which will will be an indication i think of the uh the the general um beginnings of failure of the lobby, we've seen the similar thing with apac who've who've uh failed a little bit, they've not had their custom 100% success in in in election campaigns, the so some of their attempts to have people uh um stopp from being elected or to be elected

have have not been successful, so we started to see cracks in the uh in the the uh per of the wobing, is this do you think one of the unintended consequences from designist? perspective of of the genocide that they are engaged in in gas in terms of the weining power of the z yes of course it is, mean everybody sees the genocide, everyone sees the horror and all across the world. public opinion is outraged and horrified, but in the the ruling structures of western countries like the us especially, but also the uk, there there is very very strong support for zionism and it's it's very difficult to to hack away at that, but it's beginning to crack, well loki, i mean this is also wrapped up isn't it in the campaign against al-jazera in the united states, i mean what do you know about that? so yes, this is also connected to... very ferocious campaign against al-jazera in the united states and that

campaign specifically targ targeting aj plus is about forcing the organization to register as foreign agent according to the us phara act. now that would then have different implications for the organization in the us and the main body that is pushing that is zkor legal institute which is working in coordination with americans for transparency and accountability in this regard. now, zack or legal, legal defines his activities as using well-established legal principles back by longstanding government policy to prevent the adoption and promogation of bds activity by local governments. it also seeks to successfully prosecute organized crime and terror movements to impose financial and criminal penalties on entities and individual. that are funding and overseeing bds activity in the united states, so it has

a strong anti-bds slant, but as we've seen aj plus has been a real target for its campaigning. now the funding for the zakor legal institute comes from adam milsteen through his milsteen family foundation. now milsteen is an israeli military veteran, he's on the national council of apec, and he's also been jailed previous. for tax evation, but fascinatingly, not only is he member of stand with us, he's also funded the campaign against anti-semitism in the uk, so you really see the clear link that exists between the zionist lobby activity in the uk and in the united states, so what you have is a sort of perfect storm where zakor legal institute and few other israel lobby groups working to force aj plus to register as foreign agent, at the same time as from within the film and

music industry, you have an organization like creative community for peace which is trying to force a palestinian in ghazza who is at risk of being killed any time in israel's genocide, of not even being able to receive some form of recognition through nomination for an award in the united states. david, would you say the the the cultural sphere is um is significant and important to what actually happens on the ground? look, it it relates to what happens on the ground, it's part of the question of of confidence uh of people who are struggling uh in the resistance in gaza, but also the confidence the movement outside palestine and whether they think they're winning or not, all that plays into the to questions of uh strategy and what's what's thought to be possible as we begin to... victories we begin to see that uh that more and more things are possible, so yes of course it's relevant, it kind of gives

that suppose confidence and maybe for us to to speak out, well our next report looks at which figures from the music and film industry who've joined in the vindictive campaign to deprive bisan auda of an emi award, hey everyone, this is bisan from gaza, apparently i'm a seller life, which well-known figures from the music and film industry have joined the lynch party to block... gaza journalist bisan auda from her emi award nomination. of course, several figures linked to universal music group are essential to the operations of creative community for peace. firstly, the founder is dave renzer, former ceo of universal music group publishing. another ccfp figure who signed the letter against bisan auda is sherry lansing, chairman of the board at universal. evan lamberg, the president of universal publishing for. north america also signed the letter. it's been noted that this company headed by zionists is also the home

of prominent palestinian artists like st. levant and dj khalid. some other key figures from the music industry that signed the letter include eton binhorren, the executive vice president at warner music, and pamela charbit, the head of global ar at warner music. the label features major artists from around the world like. sheren and others who have displayed support for the palestinians previously. others from the world of hollywood who signed the litter against the journalists from gaza include debora messing and selma blair. unforgivable demonstrations of solidarity with zionist genocide in gaza. look, tell us about the so-called creative community for peace, will you? so, creative community for peace was founded as the same legal entity as the stand with us, lobby

group, which is well-known and historically has even been funded by the israeli prime ministers. office and creative community for peace is led by dave renza, who is the former ceo of universal uh music group publishing, but he's also married to the head and founder of stand with us, but aside from that, when it was founded as the same legal entity, the tax filing show that it was the israel emergency alliance, creative community for peace and stand with us as the same organization, and the it's even been commented upon of how including the word peace um increases the uh the the the the ability of this company to reach people and draw them in and ultimately obscure their objectives which are to fight bds within the music and film industry and so you've seen creative community for peace organize trips

to israel for alicia keys for macy grey. they have a close relationship with quite a... few impressionable uh musicians are unfortunately and as we've demonstrated have very close uh links to key major record labels in the music industry so it makes it quite difficult for artists who are keen to succeed um really to resist uh this push and actually i would say it's down to create a community for peace that you've seen so little artistic response to the horrific killing in rasa across these 10 months, really you can count on one hand, the amount of musicians and public figures who have taken any kind of meaningful stance on palestine, and probably even the ones that do, many of them take these sort of pathetic stances like wearing a little badge on the red carpet at an award show, you that's not

the uh the tradition and the legacy of someone like john lennon who funded the black panthers or um... even bob dylan at his zenneth was more politically involved, but you don't have this these same equivalents in today's music industry, and i would say this particular organization and few other groupings like it within the music and film industry are ultimately to blame for the attritional depoliticization of uh artists, film uh actors and and public figures more generally and... i mean i wonder whether you could just say few words about uh standdos organization which is kind of linked to this sort of communities for creative community for peace when it first emerged people were a bit uncertain about what it was and it was a little bit of investigative work done by by anti-sianis journalists over in the states which revealed that in fact it was the same organization as sam stand with us that the

the husband and wife team who run both organizations uh uh were were kind of a giveaway but also of course down with has been funded by the prime minister's office, it coordinates directly with the ministry of foreign affairs and used to coordinate with the ministry of strategic affairs when it existed uh and had that portfolio, so this is part of the the overall coordination designist movement, they don't not, there isn't one part of the the the movement which does things which are unauthorized, they do all this in in a coordinated fashion with direction from the from the center, and that's why we say when these talk about these organizations we talk about them as being assets because they are assets movement which is quite tightly coordinated, well it seems doesn't it then that although they seem to have you know quite a wide reach uh which we've obviously covered on the on the show and on numerous occasions, mean talk about the des lobby now mean actual you know key players real to be few in number is it seems as that what you're saying well the the they are they are relatively few in number but

there are there are a lot of them mean look in the uk for example there are 2 resignist charities probably and in the us lot more than that, so that's a lot of people. now of course they're interpenetrated in this overlapping board memberships, and of course people from one family will marry into another family, and so you have leading families in the us and the uk who are intermarried with each other and also interlinked with each other in different organizations, so yes there's a relatively small amount of people, but let's remember that you know the jews in in america are 2.5% the population and most of those in these senior senior roles are zionists, so you you you're going to have that kind of penetration. well loki, i wonder whether you might just explain who uh hayim saban is and and why he's relevant here. so ham saban is fascinating figure, he's is somebody who is a former israeli military uh from former israeli military personnel, but also he is somebody that has been credited as pumping

millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars into the friends of the idf, the charity which funds the israeli occupation forces, um, because he's the main organizer of fundraises, he's very, very well connected, was given first his own subsidiary of universal music and now he's been made a director of universal music, universal is of course the label that the biggest artists in the world are signed to or have been signed to in the past. in addition to that, heim saban is somebody that's been credited as writing joe biden's script on israel. he says, this is ham san, he says i'm a one issue guy and that issue is. israel so he's constantly used his influence and his position within the society to assert the interest of israel and he is the number one signature signature on this letter trying to

force and the withdrawal of bsan's nomination from the emi awards so clearly he would have had intimate role in the shaping of the letter as he is the first signature and he has key' at the creative community for peace and no doubt uses his influence within universal music to extend that domination really over the music industry. do you think then it's fair to say that the the zinis lobby within the music and the the film industries losing its grip? i don't think it is yet, mean i think that they have such a grip on on the industry and and it's not just that they've got power, it's that they have so many people uh relatively. at the top levels of the music industry, truly extraordinary, the number of zionists who are at the top of the music industry, it's hardly any other industries, maybe the nba in in america is an example, hardly any other

industry which has that level zinous penetration of the very top jobs, so they're not losing their grip at the top, but of course they are losing their group further down the hierarchy, so in that film you saw of course there are many artists there who are managed by uh hardling genocidal scientists who are supporters of the palestinians and that's a that's a conflict which is... would have to work its way out and that will be the beginnings of the cracks that will show. okay, mean um, what's been your experience in that regard? what we just been talking about there with david? so in my case of course there was a fairly well-known campaign by the we believe in israel lobby group, which is still lobbying spotify to remove my music. i have new album coming soon which i'm sure will upset them greatly even more, but also you know. extended even further to when it was less visible. i remember times i was invited on tim westwood show for example, over 15 years ago, it was

very popular show on the bbc, and at the last minute, my appearance was cancelled, and i was later informed by an employee of the organization that dossier had been passed on, which um, accused me of conspiracism, and there... for was deemed not good enough for tim westwood who has now been accused of multiple sexual assaults of young black women, so it's it's interesting, the way that the zionist lobby in both in this country and in the united states, it it draws to it some the most repugnant and rancid figures and morally depraved individuals, it is able to instrumentalize within the music industry and within uh culture at large, unfortunately, so

i can't say that i've had any particularly exceptional experiences, many others will have experience experience the same kind of things, but i think certainly there's lessons to be learned from my experience too. well david, i mean, what are the ways do the the sign see? to control the the cultural sphere? well, i think you've got to look at this in terms of on the one hand, the the traditional notion of the israel lobby, so that something like creative community for peace is an israel lobby group, it's there to work from within the industry, the music industry to pursue zionist foreign policy aims and agendars, but you also have of course the role of zionist within an industry like the music industry and other cultural industries true, where the executives are who are zionists, yes they might appoint or sign up uh artists who who are pro- palestinian to some extent, but they will they will be unlikely to do that to to a great extent and the and there there will be limits on the

extent to which they can they can speak out uh uh as pro- palestinians as we've seen with this this particular example, so it's the actual functioning of the those industries, including the social media industries, the media industry, the music industry, they they actually act to delimit and limit radical voices, especially pro-palestinian voices, but other radical voices too, we we've seen that over the years and that's part of the reason why um mass culture is so blunt, do you think that explains i mean you know this sort of uh um obsession if you like with the with the cultural? sphere is is because they see it as as being an important influencer in terms of public opinion, even though they kind of losing that that propaganda war on the moment, but i mean is that what what it's about, do you think the fact that they're so embedded in the cultural? yeah, i mean, i think that they they probably perceive it that way, i mean they perceived themselves as being in control to some extent, but of course you know they've all they've constantly got to repress propowers and the voices and of course at the at the level of

of public and popular opinion you know the... "israel is hated, i mean, most people, most young people want israel to end, and that even a year ago, that would have been unthinkable, but we've come a long way in a year, but there's a long way to go, indeed, indeed, there certainly is, well, i mean, that's all we've got time for today, so thanks for watching, and and thank you to our guest low key, and of course our residence expert professor david miller, remember you can follow the show on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates, and you can also help us to counteract the pro zines propaganda that's routinely featured in the..." media by sharing today's program on your social media platforms, so until next time when i hope you're join us again on palestine declassified, this is chris williamson saying bye for now, this week on expose day, we dive into the

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