like points of light in wh orden's uh words. it's also the anniversary this week of the uh outbreak of world war if you ignore what was happening between china and japan uh when germany went into poland. you know these are points of light, you can't eraize them, everyone knows, but as for the people of gaza, it doesn't look like anyone's going to save uh the remaining uh millions left. well, may the lord preserve. your points of light, afsan ratansi, thanks for joining us on have it out with galloway, wow that was quite an interview, let's go to the studio wall and see what's on the mind of our audience today, zuber rashid is solicitor in birmingham in england, zuber, welcome to the show, hi jo, thank you very much inviting me over, my question can't you hear me george? yes, very

clearly. go ahead. my question is to you, why zines political violence and influence is so strong, and what are the main reasons behind them? and why world power like usa and other western europe seem to be supported them directly or indirectly? well, because we gave birth to the... the israeli state to the zianist idea. the zinast idea was born amongst you us christian evangelicals. it was given huge leap forward in london in the balfor declaration. it was given birth by the british mandate in palestine and impremature belatedly from the united nations itself. israel was. created the only state ever have

been created by a resolution of the united nations, nowadays, israeli diplomats openly call for the obliteration of the united nations and its headquarters on the east river in new york, so it's uh no surprise that the remaining posts of empire continue to support their own child, because israel is... is their child, an illegitimate child, there is another word for an illegitimate child, which i shant use, for reasons of taste, and they are determined not to abandon the child to which they gave birth, and they are determined to, if possible, out gun us with arguments, but if that fails, then simply to disarm us and that's the kind of...

thing we've been talking about this evening, the disarming of critics of israel, in the case of sirra wilkinson, in the most extreme way, forbidden to use a telephone in 2024, forbidden to use a computer in 2024, a journalist forbidden to communicate with anybody, that's worse than house arrest, at least under house arrest. "you can send emails, but sarah wilkinson cannot. these are her bail conditions, if she breaches them, she'll end up behind bars. can you imagine that we have reached this stage? thanks for that call from bermium, let's go to london where nick smith has a question. nick, welcome, how you george, hello everyone? hi, george, i just want to briefly talk about the notton hill carnival where..." 50 police

officers were injured, 37 emergency workers were injured, over 100 drug offenses, around 300 arrests, free guns season taken, 12 sexual assaults, eight stabbings which have now led to two people dying, george, is it time we now council naughting hill carnival? well, i used to live in the middle of what once year was the naughting hill carnival, see i used to live there, i used to move out of town when the... notting hill carnival came, so riatous event had it become, and that's some years ago, so my answer to that would be that it cannot continue in its present form, we cannot possibly have people being murdered in broad daylight on the streets of the center of london in the middle of festival. now we have to keep this in perspective, the... millions who attend the

notting hill carnival also have to be taken into account, the stabbings that occur every day, far away from the... hill carnival have to be born in mind. the truth is, we are in the middle of a crime wave in britain, that the government shows no signs at all of being in control of. indeed, the government is preoccupied by sending 12 officers to arrest a 61 year old lady uh called sarah wilkinson for defending palestine on on the internet. well, we can't. continue with this crime wave, poor people are stabbing poor people, black people are stabbing black people, uh, the drug uh gangs are shooting people uh, in places that we never imagined would suffer

from high rates of violent crime before. bournemouth uh, for example, uh, home counties, towns that you would never figure. would end up in a crime drama are now in the grip of real, real crime dramas, so we've got a critical problem in britain, our police are not up to dealing with it, they've been so savagely reduced in number, the number of police stations that have been closed and are now blocks of luxury flats uh is legendary, the police are at least 40,000 officers short and some way is going to have to be found of empowering special constables, from amongst retired police officers, from amongst ex-military people, from amongst concerned citizenry for use in specific occasions where

the police are overwhelmed, the police are uh pressed, but i never like the naughting hill. "it cannot go on next year in the same way as it went on this year, either it will have to be moved or some solution has to be found. two entirely innocent people, one of them a mother in front of her young child were murdered in broad daylight a festival, a carnival, and the number of attacks on emergency workers that you adumbrated there is completely unacceptable and..." i'm grateful to you for the opportunity to deal with that matter. let's go to alan smith. i don't know where alan is from, it's in rally in the united states of america. allen, most welcome. what would you like to say? george,

a pleasure to be here, uh, appreciate it. uh, and uh, yeah, i'm in rawley north carolina. you now, even with all all all this uh going on in the media and you. you wake up every day to hear some new atrocity in israel, new way of killing, torturing people, stealing land, it just goes on and on and on. we are making some incremental progress, i would say, um, you know, um, uh, here in america, bernie sanders just uh, put forth a resolution to delay the 20 million dollar arm sale to israel, so that's that's going to delay things at least, uh, ap. had to spend um $25 million dollars to unseat just two progressives in the house, they were afraid to uh go after the rest of them who are pro- palestinian, also total of 150 members of the us congress, that is senators and members of

the us house, a boycotted bb speech before congress recently, so you know two years ago i think all that would have been unthinkable and and it's... certainly isn't enough with everything that's going on and we need to do more uh, but but i do think we are making some progress. well, i think uh, that the the juries out on my question at the beginning of the show, is israel's power growing or is it on the win? and you have provided some, as it were countervailing argument as to the incremental progress that we have made, and uh, that's welcome. i have no doubt. afsan ratansi seemed to be of the view, i think i am myself of the view, that the jury still out. it's easy to oversell the extent to which the demonstrations, the protests, the

tweets, the facebook posts and so on, indicate a loss of israely power, and it's true that they have lost, but on the other hand, their culturally. still dominant amongst artists, for example, amongst the politicians, that's not even an argument, the politician. in the western world are bought and paid for and have no intention of breaking their contract with israel. apac that you mentioned boosted in august that they had spent 100 million dollars already on the current cycle of american elections. they talk about russian interference, chinese interference, iranian interference. one. million dollars by august, the elections are not until november has been spent by what is

effectively the mouth piece of foreign power, although uniquely one that is not required to register as foreign agent, but $100 million dollars bought them success, they boast that every single candidate that they supported in the primaries. everyone was successful in their primary election, so i can say virtually every congress person in the united states is paid agent of the netanyahu apartite state, that tells you we've still got a long way to go. let's try norman mckenzie again, i think we may have solved the muting problem. norman, welcome. hello, george, very. good to speak to you this afternoon, um, a couple of months ago i set

up while there still was a tory government, offcom watch, which is an organization that is looking to provide some oversight on offcom, the the orwelian named office of communications in the uk that is regulating or as i like to say is censoring uh tv and radio comment content, but now under under the labour government, the... the powers of ofcom are actually going to be extended um under legislation embrace the internet and and social media and we are going to see, i think um more sweeping censorship powers and restrictions of free speech using that online safety act, is that something that you support or or would you support our would you endorse and support our campaign? uh, well, i need to your campaign details, but on the face of it, i holy support you. who will

guard the guards is ancient question, uh, who will monitor the off-come monitors of output? i could show you my scarce of previous conflicts with them myself, but the truly nightmarish proposition is the one you post that the the perview of ofcom. is to be extended onto the internet, the internet's whole point was that it was free uh, but if the state is going to seek to intervene on what can be said or even heard uh by british people, well first of all that's going to lead to a big spike in vpns, uh, i'm getting new vpn and pretending i'm in brazil uh, for reasons which the... will immediately grasp uh, but the nightmare will be if ofcom seeks

to interfere in the output of someone like me, for example, someone with audience of several millions, sometimes four millions in a single week, are they going to try and interfere in what i say or interfere in the people that can hear me, that's why i made the joke. with afsan earlier, do we all have to move to russia? imagine, they used to tell us, russia was a prison state and we were the free world. now it's actually debatable point whether you'd be freeer in russia to speak out than you are in the so-called free world rocking in the free world. i'll look up your uh offcome watch, i'd like to be able to support you, thanks. uh norman for that. jake fern is an artist in brighton. jake, welcome.

hello, george, how are you? i'm good. thanks. good to be on. i just, i'm, i'm just thinking more sort of theoretically, philosophically about the whole thing. one question is, do we think in this country, particularly in the uk that people have legitimate concerns about unlimited immigration? are being drawn into this kind of zionist mindset and is that false paradigm? well, it's ironic of course, because zionism depends upon mass. immigration of jews from around the world, from the countries in which they were born, their fathers, grandfathers, great, great, great, great grandfathers were born, mass immigration is the whole stick of zinanism and going to take over somebody else's land, somebody else's country, so it's ironic, but yes, if you were drawing a ven diagram, you'd

have very large overlap between the... the opponents, the most aggressive uh opponents of migration uh and the supporters of israel, partly that's a function of the money that's been paid out uh little tommy robinson, not his real name uh, but his stage name uh has been paid lot of money by the israel lobby and that's one of the reasons why he shoots the breeze for them, but you're right, uh there are all kinds of uh political currents or trends uh that uh see these two things are synonymous uh opposing muslims because that's what they really hate uh and uh and supporting israel killing muslims and christians of course in occupied palestine

there is a ven diagram there is an overlap uh between these these two things, but it isn't a necessary one. i myself i'm against mass immigration, saragenknecht who did so well in the regional elections in germany yesterday got nearly 15% of the vote, she like me is opposed to mass immigration, and for the same reasons that mass immigration beggers the countries that the migrant. are leaving from and in a capitalist society places unbearable uh stresses on the poorest and the working class in the countries to which they come. i say that openly here in britain uh, although i'm from socialist tradition, she does the

same in germany. i like to think that one day we'll be as successful. as her uh, the the reality is there's nothing left-wing about mass immigration, in fact it's the opposite of left wing, the only people in favor of mass immigration of open borders uh are are the the the billionaire class who get the cheap labor and misguided liberals and anarchists about whom uh, i'll talk another time. thanks very much for that call. let me go to lahore in pakistan, where mohammed mahad samija is there. mohammed, welcome bah back to the show, nice to see you again, sorry about last week. what would you like to say? assalamu alalaikum, george, can you hear

me properly? walaikum salam warahmatullah wabarakatuh, very loud and clear. sir, basically i have, i want to thank you for what you did for palestine and what you did for pakistan, and now i want to ask you that why china and russia does not deploy peacekeeping forces in the gaza strip and ask netanyahu, look mr. bb, no, not a single bomb, don't you dare to bombard any building, any refugee camp, because we are going to deploy peace keeping forces according to the mandate of the united nation, so why russia and china cannot do this, and how israel's apartite regime can be stopped as it has expanded its garnage towards the west bank? well, i guess the reason why they are not doing that is uh, they think that it's not

the right time for world war 3 uh, because that's what that would until - if russian and chinese forces interposed themselves in the occupied uh territories uh that would be a breach of international law, they have no un mandate to do that, and the united states would presumably come to israel's aid, so uh we're, i suppose lucky uh that they have not done that. i've argued uh, it's unpopular. in some quarters, i've argued that there are many things that they could do short of that, and i talked in a recent show here uh about why they don't sail a hospital. capital ship into the bay in gaza and say invite the cameras uh to make it clear, this is mieley a hospital ship, and we are here to help the

humanitarian catastrophe that is occurring in the gaza strip, and we defy the israeli government to fire upon a russian or chinese or both hospital ships. i think that that could have been done, should have been done, would have been a sign of intent, would have been an escalation, but an entirely justified one, justified in pursuit of the mandate of the international court of justice, as to what can be done, uh, of course, we're doing everything that we can, but it is not enough, your government is supporting, is... "my government in britain is supporting netanyahu, the american government, most of all is supporting until we reach a stage

where politicians know that it will cost them many more votes than it would ever gain them to support israel and its crimes, i feel that our governments are going to continue doing what they have." been doing, thanks for the call in lahore, let's go to addis ababa where darej yemeru has point of view. derege, welcome. good evening, george. good evening, brother. i have a question: israel is slaughtering this gaza children, yet somehow, the they are able to... gets vaccinated, why do you think they are saving this children before their bombs kill them? well, it is,

yeah, it is grotesque, it is grotesque, i'll grant you to have a three-day pause, which hasn't actually even happened yet, to inoculate children against polio, and then at the end of three days to begin killing them from the air and land and sea, all over again, at least the child will have been vaccinated against polio. it wasn't israel's idea uh to inoculate the children against polio, but the emergence of polio in gaza is not just a mortal threat to the palestinian kids there, but also of course the spores of polio are not restricted by barbie, they're not restricted by borders or by names. of places uh polio can spread into uh the apartite state itself, so that's why they agreed to it when the world health

organization proposed it, and i lived in the time of polio, by the way, lots of children around me in the 1950s in in britain wore metal calippers on their legs were confined to... wheelchairs, the most extreme, living out their lives, lying flat a bed in what was called an iron lung, the horrors of polioh should not be underestimated. was injected and got a sugar lump uh, which kept me safe from polio, and we must be grateful for the small mercy that kids in gaza are going to be inoculated against it. "the last call i i think i can safely say is malik naim in germany where big events happened this week.

malik, welcome to the show. yeah, good afternoon, mr. galloway, in these gloomy and devastating times, you provide poll of security and positivity for many people, and you remind me of of the..." lighthouse in a ocean with turbulent water, i want to speak about another problem which is quite so old as palestine problem and this is kashmir and kashmir has been turned into open air prison for four years now and indian and and israelies are working together and learning from each other. how to keep these people under control and punish them and do all kinds of crimes, the whole world reminds me

of as moment, of pakistan this which has a population of 250 million i don't know the numbers but about half million soldiers and about million police police police personnel and they are demonstrating like we're doing here in europe but nothing is happening and there is our prime minister imran khan just for the clock because i have. to wrap up now, i'm intervening in the most important issue that you raised, which is very close to my heart. i have the two highest civil awards in pakistan, the halali kham, the halali pakistan, the latter was for my work on kashmir. i have spoken many times about kashmir, the speeches are available on the internet, but it's entirely correct that you

bring up the fact. that the people of held kashmir are under the jackboot of military occupation in exactly the same way that the palestinian people are, and for almost exactly the same amount of time, imagine, and there was a common denominator between both kashmir and palestine, both are blunders and crimes of the british empire, it was britain that in its cack-handed handling of awarding independence to india and the subsequent partition of the country and allowing maharajas to declare where their territory that they owned would be placed as between india and pakistan, and it was britain

through the balford declaration. and through the british mande, which is responsible as the midwife of the entire palestinian nachba. i commend my speeches in the house and online on kashmir to you, malik, i'm grateful even for the few minutes that you were able to talk about it. back to the subject of the program, i think we can save. conclude that it is not safe to conclude that israel's power is either growing or on the way, as i put it earlier, the jury is still out, but the difference on this between real life and a jury is we are allowed to persuade others, by any means, whether it's standing a soap box, which i will do if necessary, without a

microphone, a megaphone, if you take it away, by any means whatsoever, we should be trying to persuade our fellow citizens wherever we are, not just to stand with palestine, but to convey a message that we will never stop standing with palestine until palestine is free, it's been marvelous. hope you enjoyed it, if so, come back next week at the same time for have it out with gallaway.

the headlines at press tv, the wfp warns that more than 2 million palestinians in gaza are in urgent need of food, school children are also deprived of education for second year. tehran is prepared to forge cooperation with the international atomic energy agency who... head is set to visit iran soon. syria slams israel's sunday night deadly attacks warning that the regimes escalating the situation which could have unpredictable repercussions.