tv Documentary GTMO 1 PRESSTV September 13, 2024 6:35pm-7:31pm IRST
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de política de los gobiernos de los estados unidos, esta política la siguieron todos los presidentes norteamericanos del siglo xix y tuvieron siempre la ambición de apoderarse de cuba por lo que cuba representaba geopolíticamente en la estrategia que estados el unidos, estrategia expansionista que estados unidos estaba trazando hacia el continente.
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en 24 de febrero de 1895 está ya la guerra de liberación de cuba, la guerra por la independencia, se desarrollaban de manera exitosa las operaciones militares favor de los cubanos contra españa a partir de ahí se empieza mover maquinaria militar y política de estados unidos para crear las condiciones para intervenir en cuba. la decisión de estados unidos de intervenir en la guerra de cuba estaba ya decidido por el gobierno de los estados. ladies and gentlemen, we're going back live to the iranian capital, tehran, iranian president is back from his 3d official visit to iraq, his first official foreign trip, and now he's addressing uh making address and speaking to the press as he's returned to the capital, let's listen it.
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can go to the other countries easily and this agreement can be very effective and finally on economic issues we had meetings with of iranian businessman and they expressed: and on the side of iraq also, and we raised a general view there that the infrastructure for facilitation, these comings and goings and this travel, and we rais that our ideas and that this would be discussed along side
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other neighboring countries based on the general policies announced by the leader of the islamic revolution and this was that of european countries have easily removed their borders and trains and cars and planes would move from one country to another easily and they can carry out trade there and carry out academic work easily. "and our question was that, why can't we muslims from afghanistan, con pakistan to get on the train, come to iran and then go to carbala, najaf, medina, mecca, de or on the other side go to istanbul, why don't the islamic countries, muslim countries a have such a network, whether they don't want it or they cannot create it, we have to work on this to be able to improve our connections and facilitate our ties between muslim countries and..." to be able to arrive at
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this goal and achieve it, we need security, because without security this cannot be achieved, if we can do this, obviously the economic... we can improve matters and this will result in the growth and creativity in muslim countries and unity is created and this will help the businesses to boom and flourish, and these were the issues and
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permanecer para siempre, si quieres mientras quiera permanecer en ese lugar, y la enmienda establecía le concedía el derecho al gobierno de los estados unidos a intervenir militarmente en cuba siempre que considerara que sus intereses estaban. en peligro, cuando hablamos de la intervención desde la base naval de guantánamo, hay intervenciones directas en las intervenciones militares de 1906, de 1912 y de 1917, por el pretexto de proteger los intereses económicos norteamericanos y proteger las vidas entre comillas de los ciudadanos. norteamericanos que residen en cuba. de esta manera, en 1906, cuando el presidente strapalma quiere
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reelegirse y surge una situación convulsa eh nacional. el ejército eh norteamericano traspasa la frontera de la base naval. lo mismo pasó en 1912, cuando se produce en cuba movimiento de los independientes de color, un movimiento de hombres de la raza de color que se sintieron extraordinariamente marginados y se lanzaron buscar sus derechos por las armas. en el año 1917 ocurre, vuelve ocurrir un movimiento interno que pasa la historia como la chambelona, estados unidos interviene por tercera vez empleando territorio de la base naval de huantana, es muy poco conocido que durante el año 1917 en cuba estados unidos estableció un contingente militar de ocupación de 35,000 efectivos, 35,000 efectivos para una isla eh pequeña, aquella época la población cubana eh. quizás rebasar a millón, un poco más de un millón de habitantes y 35,000 efectivos implica la
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presencia militar norteamericana en todo el país. a lo largo del siglo xx, el ejército norteamericano. empleó ampliamente la base naval de guantánamo para intervenir países centroamericanos y pueblos del caribe y por lo tanto presionar cualquier movimiento de liberación nacional que surgiera guantánamo era en ese momento una bahía que era esencial en su política geoestratégica junto con puerto rico, sea hacer un triángulo estratégico entre guantánamo, puerto rico y panamá. and the panama canal was also an american military.
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punto de partida fue la intervención de 1914 tomando la base naval de guantánamo como en méxico de la base naval de guantánamo salieron contingentes militares ocupar a haití de la base naval de guantánamo. salieron contingentes militares a luchar contra sandinos en nicaragua, salieron contingentes militares a desembarcar en república dominicana. quizás habría que estudiar a profundidad qué papel han tenido otras bases militares norteamericanas en el mundo, porque si bien las bases militares norteamericanas en europa durante la guerra fría tenían la idea de la contención del comunismo, las bases norteamericanas en asia tenían la idea en japón, corea de... era el comunismo, como llamaban ellos, el expansionismo chino, el expansionismo coreano, la base naval norteamericana en
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guantánamo ha sido generadora de precisamente de agresiones contra el resto del continente, no creo que haya otra base militar norteamericana en en el mundo que haya participado en tantas intervenciones militares en todos los países. cuando se produce el golpe de estado del general batista en marzo de 1952, fue reconocido rápidamente por los estados unidos, fugencio baptista era para los norteamericanos su hombre en cuba a así lo habían ellos categorizado así lo habían evaluado siempre, era el mejor defensor de los intereses de estados unidos en cuba, pasa al país una situación de guerra y se constituye la primera guerrilla en la sierra maestra. y presionado por la opinión pública mundial,
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los estados unidos se ve obligado aplicar un embargo a para bombardear los poblados campesinos y los campamentos del ejército rebelde, yo viví un bombardeo de la aviación de batista en diciembre de 1958, el pueblo donde nací, eh, cawaian, bombardearon los alrededores de ese pueblo, ametrallaron poblaciones campesinas y aterrorizaron a la población, porque no hay
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nada más terrorífico que sentir en el medio la noche el motor de un avión que viene bombardear el... esto motivó que en una operación de propaganda armada, podemos llamarle así, el se preparara por el comandante raúl castro, la llamada operación antiaérea, es el momento en que son detenidos 23 marines norteamericanos, al regreso son detenidos en la carretera que comunica con la base naval de huan. aquello fue una operación muy rápida eh de muy corto tiempo y fidel eh le dio la orden a raúl de que eh cerrara la operación para evitar darle un pretexto más al gobierno de los estados unidos para intervenir militarmente en cuba, hasta dictadura de batista de 1952-1958, este fue o parte de la
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colaboración militar. entre cuba y los estados unidos y estaban ahí cuando el ejército rebelde entró en la habana. a partir del triunfo. la revolución cubana en enero de 1959, la base naval de guatanamo se convierte en un centro de compilación contra el joven estado revolucionario, en los alrededores de la base naval de guantánamo eh surgieron más de 20 bandas contra revolucionarias, desde la base naval de guantánamo se le daba el aseguramiento logístico, se le daba la preparación militar por las fuerzas de la inteligencia naval. por
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otra parte, la base fue desde esos primeros años un punto. de enfrentamiento eh, puesto que las fuerzas armadas de los estados unidos y las fuerzas armadas de cuba están frente a frente en este punto del territorio nacional y desde allí se produjeron a lo largo de los años 60 sobre todo una numerosa cantidad de provocaciones que incluían desde lanzar piedras eh hacer actos obsenos eh provocar verbalmente o incluso llegar a disparar con eh soldados cubanos que montaban guardia del lado cubano y tenemos el ejemplo de ramón lópez peña y luis ramírez lópez eh jóvenes de alrededor de 20 a 25 años que fueron asesinados mientras cumplían su servicio de guardia en la frontera con la base naval, también en el caso de trabajadores que fueron
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este de torturados, un pescador también sufrió igual suerte. fue asesinado finalmente el objetivo de provocar, porque lo que están buscando es un pretexto para la intervención la fuerza armada de los estados unidos. entre los meses de marzo abril de 1961, la contrarrevución interna y externa recibió un fuerte golpe por parte de la fuerza revoluciones. cubana después de playa girón fue evidente que 1500 cubanos exilados contrarios la revolución armados y entrenados por el gobierno de los estados unidos por las hacía por las fuerzas armadas norteamericanas, no eran suficientes para derrumbar al régimen, de manera que estados unidos sabía que los cubanos anticastristas
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no tenían capacidad militar para hacer colapsar al gobierno cubano, a las fuerzas armadas cubanas. por consiguiente, la concepción estratégica consistía en lograr crear una situación dentro de la cual se justificara que los estados unidos pudieran mandar sus propias fuerzas armadas, en las que sí confiaban como un medio para destruir la revolución. hay una operación que fue muy famosa eh preparada por la cia que tenía como objetivo provocar desde la base naval de guantánamo un incidente con el territorio. el que ocupaban las fuerzas cubanas, las fuerzas militares cubanas, la idea estaba conectada con atentado para asesinar a raúl castro que
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iba a hablar en santiago de cuba, pretendían tirarle con bazucas a raúl castro a la población que estaba cosistada en el acto del 26 de julio en santiago de cuba, incluso había una segunda variante de de asesinar al ministro de la far que era raúl en si fallaba la primera operación en la carretera aeropuerto santiago de accupa, esa operación. se preparó por la sía utilizando varios de los contrarrevolucionarios cubanos de estas bandas que operaban en los alrededores de la base naval de guantánamo. inmediatamente esos supuestos soldados cubanos lanzarían ataque contra la base naval esto se presentaría como un arrebato, como una acción enloquecida por el dolor de la muerte de raúl castro que hubiera decretado fidel castro. es este era el la escena, obra de teatro, falla ante todo por efectividad y la experiencia que había logrado la seguridad cubana. es conocida la
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llamada operación mangosta, y la operación mangosta tenía entre sus objetivos la voladura de un buque norteamericano dentro de la base naval de guantánamo o el derribo. territorio de la base naval de guantánamo de un avión de pasajeros norteamericanos con estudiantes a bordo para que eso sirviera de justificación la intervención militar norteamericana es algo así como volver al mine al pretexto del mine como justificación para una intervención militar en en los sucesos de cuba. hasta no hace mucho tiempo, muchos pocos años, pocos años atrás, habían
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provincias y personas y quizás hasta dirigentes que le conocían de que aquí en guantánamo entraban y salían todavía trabajadores cubanos, desde que se estableció la base naval de guantánamo, el gobierno de los estados unidos para los trabajos de servicio. mantenimiento y los trabajos eh manuales de la instalación buscó manos de obra eh barata en cuba y en el resto de los países del área. he calculado que durante el siglo xx han trabajado en la base alrededor de 50,000 cubanos, es decir, son varias generaciones de cubanos que buscando un sustento familiar han acudido las instalaciones y por lo tanto contribuir a resolver sus situaciones eh familiares. mi papá trabajaba 3 meses nada más en el central y después luchando, cuando caí allí es que
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pude ayudar mi familia, un tiempo nos decían que éramos comunistas y cuando íbamos para allá nos decíamos que eran imperialistas. así que caíamos mal allá y caíamos mal aquí, entonces se fueron comprendiendo que no es allí, que somos neutrales, mi último día de trabajo en la base naval el 28 de diciembre del 2012, laros y yo siempre estamos comentando quién iba a pensar que íbamos a ser los dos últimos en salir de aquí, no entiendes y más él y yo porque él tiene su carácter y yo tengo el mío no coinciden muchos. muchas cosas no coinciden, fue un momento histórico porque ya se cierra la frontera automáticamente se cierra, porque al
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no entrarmos nosotros. pues ya no hay obrero que entre allí, así que ya está cerrada, no sé por qué todavía sigue la base naval ahí, porque ya es momento de poder buscar un acuerdo entre entre los... hombre entre las naciones que ellos entregan la base naval, eso debería de ser de nosotros, no de ellos, ahí están oprimiendo y están saliendo informaciones que no deben de salir, ahí según la historia no existe playa que nos si la tuviésemos fuesemos una provincia bastante eh con acceso a esa playa no, es decir, muchas veces se habla del aspecto político,
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el aspecto militar, pero no hablamos del aspecto económico. el imaginémonos eh digamos san francisco o imaginemos california sin sin la bahía de san francisco. bueno, eso es lo que pasa con guadarola. finalmente, en este momento, no es una base naval, es territorio donde estados unidos ha puesto una cárcel que le permite tener prisioneros a
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porque eso es un limbo jurídico que les permite mantenerlos indefinidamente en esa posición y nos causa indignación precisamente que vinculen a esta hermosa ciudad a sus nobles ciudadanos precisamente con la cárcel internacional imperialista que tienen establecida en la base naval de guantán. el problema con la base no es un problema ideológico, el problema con la base es un problema que tiene que ver con la soberanía que es otro problema, con el derecho internacional que es otro campo y con la necesidad y la facultad de cuba como país
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para recuperar. su territorio soberano contra cuba persiste y mucho más que eso, el gobierno de los estados unidos insiste en mantener a cuba en la lista de países que patrocinan el terrorismo, entonces si insiste en esta política de hostilidad, nosotros no podemos pensar que la base naval de guantánamo, la presencia de la base naval de guantánamo sea eh una verlo como un hecho normal, como un hecho cotidiano.
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guántanaamera. when i was much much younger i used to hear this song called guantana and uh didn't know because of its cadence that it was actually guantanar i thought it was just $1 mirror and uh as time went on and eventually got to go and and i heard some of the guards singing the song, i realized that this is the song that i used to hear as a child, guantana is the woman, the girl from guantanamo, and uh, so i i i guess that that was my first ever um subconscious knowledge of guantanamo. welcome
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to camp 6, it was originally constructed in 2006 a cost of $37 million. coming off of it, there are four. blocks, each block has both an upper and lower tier, and each tier has between 12 and 14 cells. if you follow me this way, i'll show you a standard cell. every individual in the facility is on either a one or a three-minute check. every compliant individual in the facility is offered a minimum of four hours of media time per week. ill treatment is something that think everybody in guantanamo has suffered. there's not anybody who has been held in guantana would say that i was treated very, very nicely. the way i should have been, in addition to that, religious abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, being held in solitary confinement for extendedly long periods two the years a time. this is a standard selling camp five, it being sell the american correctional association standards, the top
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display or basic issued items for compliant detain and bottom display or for non-complint, the people who kidnapped me, the word i use and i have to say kidnap because there was no police present, there was this was not a legal operation, this was very much kidnap, these people... were pakistanis, but they were also americans present physically, and i believe that they were the ones were ordering, orchestrating everything that was going on. we do offer them laundry services twice a week, however some of them will let to do their own laundry, so we've installed these drying hooks which are designed to give away 40 pounds of pressure, that reduces the possibility of any unintending consequence. first i was held in pakistan and then i was sent to kandahar, and the process of being handed over by the pakistani. the americans meant being beaten and and put into a bowing position, strip naked. i was being dragged through the mud by american soldiers and being punched and kicked, stripped naked again and photographed and shackled and spat on and shaved forcibly. um, that was my
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introduction to america. what the united states did after 911 when it began capturing prisoners was that it it was determined not to give them uh rights under the geneva conventions as prisoners of war um and and also was not interested in um pursuing a traditional criminal complaint against people that it captured who were who were allegedly involved in terrorism. um, so the united states wanted to hold people as enemy combatants, people who had no rights so
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that they could do whatever they felt was appropriate. the purpose of guantanamo primarily is law of war detention. the detanies here are removed from the battlefield, removed from the fight. they're not here to be charged, they're not here. anticipation of charge, they're not here because they're accused of criminal wrong doing, they're accused and maintained here as unprivileged belligerants, kept off the battlefield as prisoners of war. the bottom line when you ask what legal arguments are made for justifying the prisoner's detention in guantanamo is actually that's coming from the wrong end, they just say they don't have any rights, so one of the problems with guantanamo bay from the very beginning as bush administration argued the us constitution. doesn't apply there, that's why we put these people on this island, that's not america, and by the way, we as america have never signed any international convention that's enforceable against us, so these people have no legal rights, you tell
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me which court the geneva convention is applicable in, and you've got to have a place to enforce it, so the u.s. hasn't signed up to the icc, the international criminal court, so you can't s there, they haven't signed up to anything that you can enforce in the international court of. justice, the american courts said they don't have jurisdiction. are we in cuba at the moment or the us? we we are in, we are in cuba. it's a us navy base, but it's in cuba in a least piece of land. it's not part of the united states in so many terms, as far as uh, we don't own the land, let's put it that way, so it's very, very hard in all but the most limited cases to get any legal rights for the prisoners, and that's why the law has played such a small role in guantanamo bay. oh, well, it was chosen so that it would be beyond the reach the united states courts and you know, and when you realize that it was cynically chosen for that purpose, you have to say, well, if that was the purpose, then what was... the united states trying to do holding people
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where lawyers and judges wouldn't be able to have any jurisdiction. so right here, these are the older cell blocks, so these were the original cell blocks were here. they're basically eight by eight cell cage all the way around it. these showers were used when the detainies were first brought in as delousing station, so they would come in here and they would cleanse the detainees. so in this area and these two guard shacks were used. to let the the guards have a place to hang out before they had to go on their tours and they would walk the camps and do their patrols and also was used as the the internal security force in case something bad were to happen. well i would say there are three categories of prisoner in guantanamo essentially there are a very small number of people who allegedly involved in in in acts of international terrorism and honestly that seems to be no more than few dozen at the most of the people who've been held. there
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are many hundreds of other prisoners who were involved in military activity, so to some extent they were either fighting with the taliban or they were in a support position for the taliban in their struggle against the northern alliance before the 9/11 attacks, and this is obviously muslims against muslims, what the hell does that have to do with 9/11 and international terrorism and alcaid, and it basically has nothing to do with it. "the rest of the people are either people who are in afghanistan or pakistan for reasons completely unconnected to any kind of militant activity, people who were in the area for reasons of humanitarian aid or as missionaries or as economic migrants, but i would say that you know the main things of the humanitarian aid workers and the charity workers who made up, i would say hundreds of the prisoners who were captured. do you think it's just that there are prisoners here who after having been..." kidnapts have been imprisoned here for over decade without ever
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having been charged or facing trial. yeah, i think that the the given how those detainees have been classified and how and and how we view them as those facing prosecutions, some law war detainees, and then some that are actually prisoners, then it's absolutely appropriate for them to be down here in this facility. what is indefinite detention? definite. intentional would be like you're not charged with anything, you are um not accused, well you're not charged with anything, just you're just detained somewhere, but it's like nothing's going on, you're just going to stay there, is that taking place in time? oh no, mean it definitely it's only been 12 years um, you know so indefinite like if it's generation after generation after generation and my kids kids and kids kids and you ask them the same question then... it would probably be lot easier to answer um other than hey, it's been
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12 years and there's still legal battles going on, are they detained addeptly? i'd have to say now. president obama designated 46 of them for indefinite detention without charge or trial. he did that himself an executive order in march 2011. now everybody else is accidentally detained indefinitely without charge or trial, but the only people that he's is personally responsible for having designated for indefinite detention without charge or trial of those 46 men. now the fact that it's only 46 men is supposed to, you know, amongst reasonable people we're supposed to say, yeah, but it's hardly anybody, and it's part of the problem that he inherited from bush of these, i'm sure they're all dangerous, he says they are, and we we know terrible things happen, but they must be bad guys, which is why i can't release them, a, i don't think that's true, but b, even if it's only... 46 people, he owns this policy of indefinitely detaining
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them, and that shouldn't be happening under any circumstances. 86 of them were approved for transfer out of guantanamo. that's 52% of the prisoners there have been told the cleared for release. sometimes. "the us has got upset when we've referred to it as the guantanamo gulag, but frankly there was never a goog in soviet russia where 52% of the prisoners had been told they were cleared for release, but they couldn't go." are there innocent people who are imprisoned here at guantanamo? yeah, once again, i'm going to leave that up to the uh, the process, once again we we've got a lot of people working that, we've got processes in place to determine that, as long as you know we are told that to keep them here, then um, i'm quite confident uh, you know that we can we can do that well, i don't know what the
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reason for my release was from guantanamo to this day other than the fact that um there were no charges after the years uh of interrogations and torture. "there's never been an apology or acknowledgement that a crime was committed against me or any of the prisoners, no, they've never acknowledged that we were tortured or beaten or abused uh, and that a crime was committed against us by the governments. the only thing that's happened so far is former us ministers and former us soldiers and former us generals have offered apologies. we b know there are prisoners that are being held here, some of which have been held for over decade, which the..." government themselves have admitted they don't have a shred of evidence against and also they have been cleared for release. why are those prisoners still being held here? well uh to to your point about cleared for release, it's it's it's not really the exact term we use, we we use clear for transfer. they use the words approve for transfer rather than cleared for release,
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because obviously there are lawyers telling them cleared for release, makes it sound like they might have case against us, it's all very careful. wordded a proof of transfer meant that they weren't saying that these were innocent people, they weren't accepting any responsibility for capturing people by mistake, they weren't even necessarily saying that they were going to be released out right, so they're cleared cleared for a transfer to uh specific or already determined specific countries or in the future will be determined what country they go to uh based on the conditions of those country, this is not who am...
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the united states, guantanamo bay is worse than any death throw in america, and it's worse for two reasons: one is because frankly the prisoners are physically abused in guantanamo in ways that would be unthinkable on the american mainland, but the second, which actually has the greater impact is that the psychological abuse of telling a prisoner, you're cleared for release, but you can't go, and we're not going to tell you when you can go and you might stay here forever, is traumatic in the extreme. to prisoners, the hunger strikes have been taking place in guantanamo from right from the beginning, and the prisoners use this as a a weapon or as a tool in order to get some
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their rights, primarily hunger strikes took place because of the detention without trial, that's the real reason why anybody's doing it, would take the patient to the restraint. then restrain the patient, once the patients restrained for safety, then the medical group would take over and then proceed with the interal feeding process. the present one that's taking place now is is one of the longest and it's also the largest number of prisoners hunger striking. what was underlying that was the very understandable despare actually that many of these men were were feeling after 11 years that that they weren't getting out of guantanamo, there was no way they were getting out of guantanamo unless they were. sometimes they will put up a little bit of resistance for the guards for movement, but most of them, and that's very rare itself, once they get into the chair, they're very compliant, it's measured from the nose to the ear down to about the xyphoid process, roughly 40 centimeters or so depending on the detainey, the the whole
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force feeding thing is an anathema to me, mean look, first you got the issue of whether you should force feed a competent person at all, and for years we've respected people, who go a hunger strike for a protest, a non-violent, peaceful protest, it's really all the prisoners can do, and the world medical association said in 1975 it's unethical for doctors to be involved in force feeding someone who competently doesn't want to be force fed, didn't understand whether it was force feeding or not, negative, interal feeding, it's not force feeding, correct, we're going to use the term interal feeding and that's it, most of the detainees will let us which side to put it in uh, you know, and they'll they'll direct the whole process, so that's why it's not force feeding, correct, the the that's a choice that they're making, we're on firm legal and medical grounds. when when we uh do the procedure down here, we are we're doing a procedure that we did not, you know uh invent down here at guantanamo bay.
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the military is very good at keeping hunger strikers alive at guantanamo. there is one man who's been in a hunger strike since 2005. he's certainly been force faired daily since january 2006 with the tube up his nose twice a day, he's still alive, somehow this man's body is. held out, like it or not, the our mission is safeguard these detainees, keep them, keep them alive, keep them uh medically healthy, and that's helping the uh global warming terrorism, that's what we're here for, so yes, we we are honor bound to defend freedom, and we do do that every day, depending on the patient, one or two cans of a various feed solution, again depending on doctor's prescription, buyer sop or standard operating. or the detaines in the restraint chair for no longer than two-hour block of time, average feed again depends the detainey was roughly a half an hour of actually flow
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rate of the real feed solution, the completion of the feed, the prisoners that i met uh clearly, evidently, most of them, i say 99% of them had never been to america, they had no idea what america was, but america had come to them. "and it had showed them a face that they didn't know existed, because as far as they were concerned, america was this great superpower um with freedom, democracy, human rights and all these sorts of things, but the reality was as far as they were concerned and their experience in life was going to be that america is an oppressor, it is an abuser, it is a torturer, it is a in a in some cases murderer uh a grand scale, at an international level. what does freedom mean to you?" " what it means to me, it means uh, you know, as long as it's not hurting or taking away from someone else, that's an
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awesome definition, i have to agree with that, the safety of yourself, safety of your family, safety of your loved ones, but it same time it also means that every other individual has those same rights and that my quote unquote freedom cannot impinge upon theirs and theirs isn't then. depends on me. i think freedom is uh uh probably the highest organizing principle of the american society. freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom to uh choose your leaders democratic uh society. so uh, i think freedom is is probably the one thing that most us service members can agree on that's important to them. this first executive order that we are signing uh by the authority vested in me as presently uh president by the constitution of the laws of the united states of america in order to effect. the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the department of defense at juantonomo uh and
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promptly to close the detention facility at guantanamo consistent with the national security and foreign policy interests of the united states and the interests of justice i here by order. president obama promised when he took office in january 2009 to close guantanamo within a year and then failed to fulfill that promise. one his plans for closing the prison was to move prisoners from guantanamo to a prison that he was hoping to buy in illinois, but it didn't happen, the congress blocked president obama from buying a prison, they blocked his ability to move prisoners to the us mainland to face trials, they then imposed bans and legislation preventing him from bringing prisoners to the united states for any reason, and then in the last couple of years they imposed restrictions on the release of prison. to anywhere, these are serious obstructions, but to to let president obama off the hook is not
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really acceptable, because he was president the united states. i think it is critical for us to understand that guantanamo is not necessary to keep america safe, it is expensive, it is inefficient, it hurts us in terms of our international standard. it lessens cooperation with our allies on counter-terrorism efforts. it is a recruitment tool for extremists. it needs to be closed. now uh, congress determined that they would not let us close it. there was a waver in this terrible legislation passed by congress, which enables him to release prisoners without consulting congress, if he believes that it's in the national. security interest of the united states to do so, when he's spoken about guantanamo, he always fails to mention that he has this magic card that
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he can play, he has been saying how the cont existence of guantanamo and indefinite detention is a shame for the united states, but he won't act, but without him doing it, we will end up with the uh widespread presumption and accurate presumption that he doesn't mean what he says, that he says great things um, but that he has no intention of actually fulfilling them. it's not that difficult to close guantanamo bay first. you take the 86 people who we agree should be released and we release them, then you've got the other prisoners and other 80 people, now you've either got to try them or you got to set them free, and you got to give them a proper trial, and there is nothing that prevents the us from giving them proper civil american trials, either in america or in guantanamo bay where they have real trials and not these military commissions, that could be done, and then if you convict them,
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you convict them and you put them in a prison, but if you don't convict them you got to set them. free, that's all there is to it, if they don't do something, this will go on forever, and that's the problem, guantanamo doesn't have a time limit on it, these guys don't have sentence that they finish, the war doesn't end without something happening, in 10 years time it's going to be there, in 20 years time, in 30 years time it's going to be there, and one by one, these guys who were you know what, the average age of them when they arrived is what, their early 20s, they're going to die, they're going to die decades from now, some of them, but they will, when you stand back and look at it, the longer this prison goes on, the worse it is for their long-term reputation, so i hope that that will lead to something, but i can see that the the impulse of american political life is is to do nothing.
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how do you feel when you heard that music? patriotic. you're not going to get much more out of me off that. gives you a little reminder of uh what you're fighting for. it reminds me of playing sports, being a ball game. it reminds me of serving my country. freedom, it reminds me of freedom, absolutely.
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deadlines, hamas political leader, yahya sinmar sends a message to the hisbollah leader expressing gratitude for the lebanese movement support for palestinians. nearly dozen. are killed in fresh israeli attacks in gaza where the total death tops 41,100, and israelies hold a new protest in tel aviv calling for a ceasefire deal to release the captives held in gaza.
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