this is for palestine the mala, gaza, this is. the child that is searching for renal. this is not just a war of stolen land. why do you think little boys are going stones at tanks and will never really know how many people are dead? they drop bombs on innocent girls while they sleep in their bed. israel is a terror state and terrorists that terrorize i'll testify my television televise i'm telling lies. how many more resolutions have to be violated? how many more children have to be annihilated. this is not a war it is systematic genocide but whatever they try palestine will never die. hello, i'm chris

williamson and you're watching palestine declassified. our twice-weekly program exposes the israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally occupied people of palestine. in today's episode we'll be explaining how the british state is abusing anti-terror legislation to suppress criticism. the ziness entities genocide in gaza and pograms in the west bank. in our first reportakra explains how this sinister development is even being deployed against journalists amongst others, including one of our regular guests on this show, richard medhurst. the use by the british government of section 12 of the terrorism act has been seen as a new escalation by the state against journalists. under section 12, a person commits an offense if they in invite support for a prescribed

organization or expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of such an organization. the arrests in quick succession of richard medhurst and sarah wilkinson, both journalists, have sent shockwaves through the movement. my name is richard thomas medhurst. i'm an internationally accredited journalist from the united kingdom. richard medhurst was met at the door of the plane as it landed and removed from the flight by six armed police held for. almost 24 hours in kafka s conditions, insulted and humiliated. he was not told what he had allegedly said or written, an obvious intimidation tactic. sarah wilkinson's case was perhaps the worst, including the smashing of the yarn containing her mother's ashes, two tight handcuffs, theft of money and passport, attempts to of intimidate and scare her, they wanted to know the location of of these. people that we were

working with, and you see, once they have the location, then the israelis can bomb them directly, perhaps the most outrageous acts with a conscious smashing of anything involving christian symbolism, and the racist interrogations questions that she endured, listen to her account. i'm going to let you know this question, why do you think palestinians are better than white people, and i and i broke my no comment at that point, and i said that, that is racist question, it's an appolling. question to ask, i'm no commenting it, but i have to say that what you've just said is one of the most racist statements i've ever known, and and so that it had that sort of shin-bet slsad element to it, so everything they attacked to do with anything, like like anything with the cross on it or the christmas decorations, those those were the things that actually took the worst battering. news of the decision of the state to persecute richard bernard was released the same day. he had

been arrested in november. bbc verify appears to have been involved in lobbying for his arrest. it's a new bbc unit for open source investigations, but the name of its star reporter mariana spring appeared in leaked emails between journalists and mi6 agent paul mason and his network. also mentioned there was british intelligence cuttout bellingcat with which bbc verify would later. partner. bbc verify took recordings of speeches made by bernard to the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, richard hall kc. on the 8th of october, bernard reportedly said when we hear the resistance, the alaksa flood, we must turn that flood into a tsunami of the whole world. hall, who performs his job for the government from room inside the office of a british intelligence agency, said, "if you take what happened in the bit"

where babies were massacred, that is unambiguously an act of terrorism, but no babies were massacred, this was simply zionist propaganda, he said that terrorism laws were not designed to stop people making political speeches, but what they are designed to do is to stop mass murder, massacres, terrorist tactics, but of course no such tactics were being advocated by bernard. as bernard stated, when asked if he regretted his language, his use of the term flood was just metaphor. the fact that the independent reviewer of terrorism, a leading kc, appears to have been retailing false... israeli propaganda ort to be sacking offense. join me in the studio, as usual, is our resident expert and eminent scholarly critic of israel, david miller. david's a senior research fellow at the center for islam and global affairs at istanbul zam university and is a co-director of the lobby watch dog spinwatch. joining us on the show again today

is one of our regular guest contributors. he is the celebrated hip-hop artist and podcast presenter for mint press news, low key. welcome to the show. now then, david, i mean, the use of sex. 12 of the terrorism act against journalists i mean it's new isn't it? mean would it be fair do you think to say that because israel and its apologists in the british state have have lost the battle of the narrative? they're they're resorting to shooting the messenger now? well that's partly what's going on here, it's an extension, it's an escalation of the use of the terrorism act against genals, they've been using it um against other people as well, but against journalists this is new thing, and the idea that you can you can try and suggest that journalists are supporting a... prescribed organization when what they're doing in reality is reporting on prescribed organizations is obviously ridiculous and of course there's a pre pre-example of this isn't that back in the 1980s when the government tried to ban shin and other republican organizations from the the uh the air waves and that failed

ignominously partly because the the uh the uh peace process then emerging in ireland but that that was another indication where they try escalate to to stop journals properly reporting what is in fact uh a conflict and indeed of course this is resistance to to occupation, so it's an escalation yes, but it's also part of a broader effort by the british state to try and criminalize all uh uh pro- palestine activism including that which might be uh eminently from journalists, so that's that's definite escalation, well loki uh the arrest of richard menness was really shocking wasn't it, i mean he was effectively dragged from the plane before even being allowed to exit, yes absolutely, we have seen across the war on terror, the use of the schedule seven terrorism act to detain individuals to seize their electronic items and question them for long periods of time, but this is slightly new a newer

iteration of that type of suppression, and of course it coincided with the jailing of 16 individuals linked to palestine and action cases, so it's important to view this issue in its totality as part of as professor miller said, part of the general attempt to suppress this massive wave of support that has swept the streets in this country, but also you have to remember that since october 7th, palestine action has launched over 140 operations against israeli. arms uh sites and companies that work with them within this country, and actually since the founding of palestine action, you have seen almost 500 operations against such targets in this country, so britain is really hub of

pro-palestinian anti-zionist activism, and the british state tandem with israel, no doubt is trying to find ways and scrambling around to suppress that thing. that that that massive feeling, but ultimately these people are only challen channels of that feeling, sure, sure, no indeed, and david, i mean, the arrest of sarah wilkinson, i mean, you was if anything, it was, it was uh, it was even worse, wasn't it, i mean, what's the latest on her bail conditions now, so if you remember she did that long interview with chrispin flintoff in his show uh, just the other week, um, and she talked about the bill conditions, and uh, the awful conditions. restrictions would make her life impossible to to live, now what's happened since then we know is that the police have dropped almost all of the beal conditions, the were originally seven conditions, it appears now there is one remaining condition, she's allowed to go back on social media, they've admitted that they stole her passport uh, she's allowed to uh to travel, they've said

that they only meant that she wasn't allowed to travel internationally didn't really mean that she wasn't allowed to travel by bus or train, but that's what it said conditions, so they removed them all, it looks like they've now according to sara's most most recent interview that they from the single remaining condition is that she's not allowed to discuss the palestinian resistance, now that's a very, very curious condition to have on your bail, how on earth she can possibly - report on on the the resistance to occupation without mentioning the palestine resistance is is anybody's guest so it looks like attempt to continue to to uh stop her to gag her from from doing her work which of course is the whole whole purpose of this they were never able to as as we understand it never able to to produce a single incident or instance where she had supported or a prescribed organization in in a huge chief of her over over a whole year huge chief of her for tweets they read them out one by one into try and entrap her and of course that field, so it's it's an indication that they are

they're scrambling about to try and find ways to try and catch somebody, seem to fail with richard medhurst, they seem to feel with sier wilkinson, no doubt they will try somebody else next, sure, i'm sure they will, but loki, the the co-founder of palestine action, richard barnard's case suggests that the the states plumming new depths in ever more desperate bid to to stop palestine action, isn't it? yeah. yes, absolutely, and when you consider that palestine action is tactic um, which has spread across the world, you have a branch of palestine action in the united states, you have a branch in germany, you have a branch in france, you have a branch in italy, you have a branch in australia now, um, this is pushback against the oslo imported method of activism in this country, which placed all the emphasis on lobbying governments to adhere to what they call an

indiscriminate application of international law, and what that means is you essentially equalize between the israeli side and the palestinian side. what palestine action is is pushback against that and is a direct engagement with the material relationships that exist within the infrastructure of these states around the world and colonialism in palestine, what you also have to remember is that the british police services, particularly are deeply integrated with israeli intelligence, so when the british police are hacking the phones of individuals suspected in taking part in palestine action activities, they're hacking the phones using an israeli intelligence company by the name of celebrite, which was founded by alumni of una 200, israel's mil'. intelligence unit, which surveils palestinian communications. in addition to that, the british police,

particularly an area like leicester, are assisted in their investigations by an israeli company called nice systems, which is partly owned by albit systems. so you have the really ironic equation where palestine action campaigners were being arrested for moving against the elbit systems site in leicester, yeah, but yet the police investigating. were using nice systems, which is partly owned by albert systems in their investigation, nice systems has even been able to insinuate itself into the communication between the police and the crown prosecution services, so potentially that would give israel a massive level of scope in terms of seeing what is and what isn't happening within these investigations, yes, yes, yes, indeed, indeed, indeed, um, but but david, it was story about this supposed... independent reviewer of uh of terrorism um of terrorism legislation uh

should i say and and this bbc verify outfit, well the first thing to say is that i mean he says this on his website that he when he does the work for the government he just he's not in chambers like he would be as normal could see he goes into a government office and it's a government office which is maintained by what he said on his website is the office for security and counter terrorism it's not called something else it's called the the homeland security group but that's an actual intelligence agency so he's actually doing this independent review of legislation for. in the offices of an intelligence agency and he he's approached by bbc verify with these speeches by richard and he's invited to to clutch his pearls and say oh this is terrible this is this is obviously a breach of the law to try and influence the police to arrest him of course the police then go and arrest him which is a disgrace now did he do that knowingly or what was he blindsided doesn't really matter which it was because they are both operating on the same levels part of the british intelligence operation which is which is there to target. protesters because bbc verify is an organization which which has connections with mi6, marianna spring

journalist uh her name features in the the correspondence with paul mason and his mi6 handler and indeed they work closely with belling which is effectively a cia/mi6 cutout so this is an absolute state up yeah it's not far from what the name sort of implies lot of people thinking looking at that i think you know it's probably legitimate organization but obviously has sinister moties behind. but loki, briefly, just before we go to our next report, it seems to me that the shadowy figures inside the british state are unable to understand english, because these charges that they're bringing, i mean they're obviously misconceived are they and... and as for the supposedly independent reverer of terrorism legislation, i mean it should be fired, shouldn't he? well, britain is key partner in the us-israeli war on the region, but britain provides logistic assist, logistics assistance, provides intelligence assistance, and of course it builds 15% of

the f-35 which israel uses to bomb gaza throughout. the war, it has been flying the r1 shadow plane over the top of razza, one of the specialities of that plane is target acquisition, the question is still open whether britain has assisted israel in its targeting um of its bombings in gaza thus far, we have to understand that we are behind enemy lines here, and what about the uh this uh independent reviewer then very, very briefly, i mean i was suggesting to be fired, would you agree, well? serious um individual undertaking the work that he is supposed to be undertaking would not engage in media theatrics such as this and trial by public opinion as they have attempted to do with richard's case yeah indeed well we're going to move to our next report now which identifies some of the people who've been

targeted by the british state and and how the fraudelent definition of antisemitism is being used as a pretext to silence critics. the british state clearly wants to find a way to scare british citizens away from supporting the legitimate right of the palestinian people to resist occupation, including by armed struggle. this is their right under international law. it is notable, with the exception of sarah wilkinson, there is at least one connection between all the recent arries among journalists from kit clarenberg and vanessa beely. to craig murray, richard medhurst, and palestine actions, richard barnard. they have all been guests on palestine declassified, so it was no surprise to learn that our palestinian reporter latifa abu chakra had been referred to the uk counter terror program prevent. her publicly available speeches caused the police to believe she was, quote, vulnerable to

being drawn into terrorism. when certain politicians and the media. use the term muscular liberalism, that's just another word for racism and islamophobia. palestine declassified understands the relevant speech was on imam hussein in the context of the current genocide. only believer in the racist prevent policy could possibly have interpreted the speech in that way, perhaps focusing on latifa's perfectly legitimate use the word radicalized. i find myself radicalized from constantly having to defend my existence. why i am unable even raise the flag of my country? the attack on miss abu chakra is of course part of much wider assault on ordinary protesters. three young women were found guilty under the terrorism act for displaying a paraglider patch. young man was found guilty of wearing a hamas headband, even though it merely had a shahada

on it, not a hamas headband at all. the defendants were young. between 25 to 30, but recent official statistics show that police are increasingly targeting children for terrorism offenses. 31 of 170 arrests were 17 and under in 2023. this is manifestly evidence of abuse. a government reviewer of terrorism legislation, jonathan hall admits for years the child category was always the smallest, but these arrests are the tip of the iceberg. statistics produced by the police show anti-semitic hate crimes in london were up 1,350% between the 1st of october to the 18th of october. the police adopted the infemist zionist working definition of antisemitism in 2016. so inevitably almost all of these offenses will

be fraugulently counted. the figures therefore confirm a massively expanded war. by the british state on supporters of palestine. sarah wilkinson pondered whether her police tormenters in baltic lavas betrayed mosad motas operandi. whatever that means in her case, it is apparent that the british counter terrorism police are now acting more or less directly in the zionist interest. perhaps it is time the british police were investigated under the new national security legislation for aiding foreign power. loke, can you remind us about the status of armed resistance under international law? according to un resolution 3246, the palest. ans a group of people exposed to foreign military occupation have the right to violent armed struggle to

liberate themselves from that occupation. the organizations which in this country are prescribed are also prescribed in the united states which has a population of 331 million. they're also prescribed by japan, they're also prescribed by by the european union, so all in all you have under billion people represented by governments which prescribe these organizations, however, the government of china, which represents 1.4 billion people, does not prescribe these same organizations, the government of iran does not, the government of turkey does not, the government of venezuela does not, the government of pakistan does not even 'the government of switzerland, which represents just under 10 million people, does not prescribe these organizations, so there are far more than billion people in the world represented by governments who do not

prescribe these organizations of the political class in in a given country it seems, but but david, just moving to you, what do you make of this attempt to intimidate palestine declassified reports of latif abochakra? well, all of a piece with what we've just been seeing with the the attacks on on richard medhurst, on sarah wilkinson, they're they're finding every way they can, they've attacked her under the prevent policy, which is is voluntary policy, of course, it's an intempt to intimidate and bully in silence, and that's the their way of doing this is they can't get it under section 12, not that they can get richard vedd, wilkins under that, and so they're trying what they can, and they they think this will be a way to shut her up, of course it's not going to work because latifa won't uh uh any attention to this whatsoever, but it's another attempt for them to try and intimidate and stop people protesting and speaking out about the genocide. sure, well, lok, mean, is it significant do you think

that that almost all of those who've been arrested recently have been guessed on on this show or is that just a coincidence? do you think? well, it's significant in so far as you have groups of people in this country who are refusing to add here to the carefully curated parameters of what is acceptable uh activity and speech when it comes to palestine, really the line is set that you should adhear to the phrase the indiscriminant application of international law when it comes to gaza, however if you actually look at the alternative historical record, you see how people in algeria were able to liberate themselves, how people in vietnam were able to liberate themselves, how people in afghanistan were able to liberate

themselves, almost every single example that you look at historically, yes it has included negotiation, but ultimately the decision has fallen upon the masses of the population exposed to occupation, political parties or organizations, but the masses of the population engaging in long periods of ungovernability, but but david, i mean, what, what about these, shocking statistics showing a massive increase in state repression on on the question of of palestine? well, the the figures are on arrests of people 17 and under children, uh are are truly shocking, i mean these have been drawn drawn attention to by the independent review of terrorism, not with any horror, i have to say, he says, oh, isn't it curious, so there's a 17-year-olds and

under being arrested, it's being, it's the case, because they're targeting prevent at schools and indeed colleges, and that's where they're finding uh the the alleged evidence to arrest people for absolutely nothing, it must be said, but in addition to that of course is the massive attempt to arrest people for religiously aggravated or what they call racially... crevated hate claims against the jus by which they mean people standing up from palestine almost entirely all of those offenses are are actually not offenses not no indeed and yeah mean it really kind of undermines those sort of statistics that they use but loki in about 20 or 30 seconds at most because we're really honest out of time the the police appear to be misusing the terrorism act against ordinary protesters as in the case of the the so-called hamas headband and and the case of the protesters who were were sporting images of of parang. that's true, isn't it? well, in many cases, the police that are dealing with these cases don't read or write or understand

arabic, so... of course there will be major gaps in their ability to understand what is happening, that might explain that one, but what about the what about the paraglider so? i mean, that that again was was misuse, wasn't it? very briefly again. i don't know enough about the case, but it seems to be yes, yes indeed. well, i'm afraid uh, sorry to cut across you there, but we really are sort of out of time today, so thank you for watching and and thank you to our guest lo key, and of course our resident expert professor david miller. remember, you can follow the show on facebook. twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates, and you can also help to counteract the prozionist propaganda that's routinely featured in the corporate media by showing today's program on your social media platform. so until next time when i hope you're join us again on palestine declassified, this is chris williamson saying bye for now.

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