tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV September 27, 2024 2:02am-2:30am IRST
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regime has bombed many areas in the south and eastern regions of lebanon as well as the capital beirot. so far, hundreds of lebanese people have been killed and thousands injured. meanwhile, hesbolah has launched extensive retaliatory strikes deep inside the in occupied territories. on wednesday, the lebanese resistance even targeted mosad headquarters in tel aviv. due to the zionist censorship. the regime keeps a tight lid on fatality. which hazbillah has caused inside the entity. to discuss that further, we're joined by miss sakina datu, author and journalist and producer, joining us live from london, and also mr. said muhsin abbas, journalist and political commentator, joining us from london. thank you very much to both of you. uh for taking part in this edition of
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the spotlight. let's begin with miss sakina datu. if you could please tell us more about the significance of hazbullah's retaliatory strikes. uh, this is definitely something that the israelis had not taken into account, imagining that hezbulah did have the capacity and the capability to strike deep into the occupied territories. i think this is not the first time that hisbullah has shown israel that it is much stronger than they believe, think it is just their own bravado and this is just israel's own belief over overestimating their own abilities that they continuously keep making this mistake to think that they can treat a hizbullah for example in the same way that they treat hamas and these two entities are not the same, the capabilities of hisbullah are well known analyst from everywhere you now top most
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analyst from the even enemy areas, the us, the uk have often mentioned and made it very clear that hisbullah is very powerful, well organized, well run organization, and therefore i think israel, like usual, you know, they just play around with words and and they don't have a strategy, if they had a strategy, they would have read the room and known what to expect, however, "we know netanyahu keeps refusing all sorts of cease fire deals and that is because he has no strategy, this is pure survival for him, he knows that if he calls out any kind of a cease fire, this is the end of his only his career, but not just that, he himself faces lots of allegation internally, but also externally, he is wanted for war crimes and i think you know this is their misjudgement and this is not the first." time that they have
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misjudged in the past they have entered lebanon and they have been defeated badly, the talks of still them wanting to send troops ground force into lebanon, i think that will be even bigger shock than what they have received so far. okay, so mr. mushan abbas, do you agree with sakina? we've also talked to our correspondent in beirot and she also confirmed that hisbullah has not even used a 10% of its military might so far. has over 100 thousand trained fighters, they have about 20,0 in reserves, that's just very conservative estimate, over 40,000 iraqi and of iraqi pmus are lined up right next to lebanon, waiting for israel to make uh the most disastrous move in its history, which would be to try to invade lebanon, they been uh, they've been sabor rattling saying in they're going to gather their their reservists and... starting to mobilize, in
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reality, i think that they know very well that move into into lebanon would mean huge losses, it would mean uh taking a war they can't win and they... will be subjected to a hesbollah who is no longer just uh kind of a gorilla fighting force which destroyed them even in 2000 and 2006. um, it's now uh very sizable, medium-sized army, one could say, it's a fighting force which has high morale, huge uh spiritual faith-based uh commitment and very clear directive, a clear set of missions to to to liberate. lebanon, because don't forget israel is still occupying lebanon, uh, in in its own little way, and it's also now got the added problem israel has, that hezbollah has totally aligned itself with the palestinian resistance, and refuses to uh disengage, as the israelis are
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trying to do, because of course the french and the americans have been trying to persuade hezbollah to uh, to uh, go for a peace, uh, peace offering from israel and uh, you know, create a 21 days fire. now the reality is, why is it that israel so keenon a cease fire with hesbollah and not with the palestinian resistance? precisely because they know the the missile capacity, the the fighting capacity, the the the nature of the foe they're up against, and quite frankly they've they they are just um able to use their aerial uh superiority and their ruthlessness in... terms of not discriminating in the killing of citizens and ordinary civilians and children, that's what they achieve every time, destroying residential buildings and killing civilians and then saying they killed hezbollah outlets. hezbollah has a network of underground installations and tunnels, the
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like of which even gaza can't even imagine. the israelis haven't been able to penetrate those gazan tunnels, what chance they stand of doing it with uh with uh hesbollah. is is is for you to uh think yourself and given that hesbollah is uh far far mightier as sakina says far far mightier than anything the palestinian resistance has put up against them, so this is the ground reality that israel has to think very very seriously, but americans are not in not innocent in this, they want the war, they they're desperate to do something, they're desperate to get israel to do the fight without them having to get their hands dirty, the israelis are desperate for the americans to come in, to do their dirty work, and in reality, both of them know that coming in and doing that uh will result in huge global situation which would actually uh detonate economies around the world and would signal this rapid acceleration of the destruction of the anglo-ziist empire which
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is happening anyway, exactly, and maybe that is why they keep repeating the word hezballah, so sakina, if you could please shed light on that, is hezballah an isolated entity that can be attacked, as far as uh we know and our viewers also should be reminded, is a political party, part of the lebanese political spectrum, it has representatives in the parliament, it has representatives in the cabinet, so attacking hasbullah means attacking lebanon, nothing less, absolutely, and i think you know this is all propaganda in the way they want to win the favor around the world in terms of what they do. mean here in the west, the the propaganda that we hear, mean at one point it used to be frustrating because of the narrative that they were building, now it's laughable because they are, it it has become so silly and people are so aware of you know this propaganda that
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that nobody believes them, so constantly mentioning hisbullah is trying to first of all separate them from the whole lebanese entity as lebanon is is sovereign country. it's it's a different from for example them fighting in gaza, it's a very different scenario, but also they are trying to also make a wedge between hizbullah and hamas and we've seen that hisbullah is not having it, they do not want sease fire that does not involve a cease fire in gaza, and again you know the other thing is they keep mentioning iran every time they mention hisbullah, they talk of it as a proxy for iran, so... "these are all efforts, it's just mentally, it's trying to paint picture of them fighting some sort of terrorism, but i think you know by now majority of the people around the world have really understood, they have lost the more argument in a big way, i mean the
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watching recently medi hussan's you know discussion in new york, and you not that i agree with everything that was mentioned there, but also it just makes you real..." realize that people now are not the same as they were before and none of their narrative, this zionist narrative is really gaining any momentum, so the... idea of them trying to separate hisbullah from anyone else is not going to happen. the other thing i think i i want to mention which i find a really amazing and which gives me personally lot of hope is to see how the shia world has come together and you know having for example statements of the highest authority you know like ayatullah sistani speaking out and sending congratulations and and message of support to his. this means a lot, i think to the shia even outside of the region of the middle
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east, because living here in the west in particular, since these organizations are proscribed, it becomes very difficult for us sometimes to not just speak about it, but even even within our own circles, there is lot of self restraint, but because of this statement of the maraja you can see that the spirit and the underst. tending of events within the shia world around the world has really changed and i think this is very significant move which we may not be able to see the effect of it immediately, but i think it is something that has got the bore rolling a way that i think is going to make much bigger difference in how this world and every other person who agrees with the strategies of resistance and the excess of resistance comes together. okay, so mr. abbas in your... if israel, considering all these different aspects of the matter that we covered, if
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israel makes the mistake of entering lebanon by a ground invasion, what will they be looking at, both in terms of how they will be confronted by the lebanese army, and also on an international level, because that is when lebanon's allies will also be lining up. well, first of all, they've had taste of what they... they can expect, but it'll be just much, much harsher. the hezbollah are capable in terms of offensive weaponry of using every kind of rocket and missile. the the even the ballistic missile they sent, the cadir one, is very old generation ballistic missile, they have far more up-to-date weaponry, and there's no doubt that the islamic republic of iran uh will have supply everything they need, and the israelis notice well, so they're going to be up against hypersonic missiles. be up against all of the latest drone technology uh, which lot of which
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basically hasb hasn't used so far and even with the card one ballistic missile, don't forget they only sent one missile, you we know very well that in order they that they could have showered tel aviv with missiles, they could have sent drones and other side rockets to to to confuse the iron dome system with the which they've done on several occasions, so they only did this as a warning to say, look back off, don't go for the full war because you won't... will be sorry basically uh, but in a ground war as you've asked you, the the tactical skills of hezbulah were now honed not just in the two wars against israel, but don't forget they were the victors of al-qaser in in syria, they were the victors in aleppo, they were the victors of many many ground battles in which they were the senior advisors and the coordinators of the war on isis, essentially the war of against the american backed isis, the turkish american uh nato back isis forces in syria, that was hezbollah, hezbollah came in on the ground long before the the russians
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came in with their air force, and then it was the collaboration of the syrian army and hesbullah and the russians which pushed back that entire highly trained, highly weaponized with all the modern technology and and dangerous daish force that was trying to destroy syria, so hezbollah are now a conventional army in in every. so they can expect uh hesbollah's abilities in terms of cover and concealment to be very strong, um, they're capable of direct fire, very accurate direct fire, they can basically uh disappear under these tunnels and these underground networks because they know the terrain of lebanon far better than the israelis would, so if these israeli soldiers happen to come in into any regions they're going to be walking into a trap, but actually what the israelis have tried to do is spring a trap on his. and in fact the axis of resistance by threatening the way they have, by basically,
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and what did they do, they they they sabotaged lot of the the hez com networks with all these walky talky they blew up and and whatnot and you pages, they attacked the leadership, many of the commanders of been attacked, and there's been a wide spreads of israely strike on these civil cilian targets, well has absorbed all of that and they've thrown it back, they've... rockets back and they're still firing rockets all over israel, so clearly whatever shock and all the israelies were trying to do do was more of a way of getting equal and opposite reaction from hez. because if hezbollah were to do what israel does, the the absolutely terroristic, i mean in fact that was the biggest act of terrorism ever, certainly this century, but certainly in my in my knowledge, i can't think of a more widespread act of terror than getting into people's gadgets and their their devices and blowing them up regardless of whether they are children or not around, that is terrorism, that is the definition of terrorism, but if is is hez
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bull what to do the same kind of cyber terrorism or the the kind of clandestine uh... black ops, which the israelis do and have been doing a frequent basis, then the americans would use that as excuse, nato, america, their international community would be mobilized, those anglo-zionist puppets uh, to say yes, it's time to launch a war against iran or a war against hezbollah all together, so israel was just trying to go uh america and the others to come in, the americans probably want to come in, but also uh don't want taste of the action on the ground that hezboller is cap. of giving them uh, which is going to be very, very nasty experience, so overall i would say that there is this kind of cat and mouse game going on, at the bottom line is that israel, if it was to make the blunder of going into hezbollah, they would be facing an extraordinarily powerful resistance which of the like of which they've never felt before. okay, sakina, uh,
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considering what we just heard from uh our other guest, mr. mohsan abbas, uh, what is your opinion about how political equations will change uh on an international scale uh israel has already lost the media war, a public opinion has shifted against israel, we have witnessed over the past couple of days in the un general assembly that world leaders have taken the podium speaking against on whether uh israel decides to go for the ground invasion uh and you know i think already like you mentioned already they have lost ground. on all fronts and i think this is their problem. the reason why they feel like they need to do something different now is because they have already lost in every aspect and i think they are trying to think that they can change some views if for example they were to enter lebanon and they were able to you know give a big defeat which which is of course illusions on their side
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but if they were to achieve any kind of victory then that is something they could claim and and hope that they will change the perspective of how the world views them. mind you, this this this war, whenever it comes to an end, it will not be the the end as in things will not go back to normal. there are a lot of countries, we have been listening at the united nations security council, how different nations are talking about israel, so going forward, even if this war was to end, there is lot of ill feeling towards israel, and in if they made the mistake, of entering, think even their own people will be suffering. if if you look at the examples right now, i've been talking to you know some some of the people on the ground in lebanon, and we've been into doing interviews and the difference is amazing, these are the people who are so prepared, the the whole spiritual aspect of this war and mentally how they are
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prepared for it cannot be more different from those settlers that we see at the sign of ' you know sound barriers breaking, they run into their shelters, there is so much panic and confusion, whereas if you look at the the lebanese, they are very calm, yes of course they they mourn the the dead, but for them this is not the end of life here in the world, there is another life and they believe in it very strongly, so the spirits are very different, you cannot compare people whose only aim is materialism because materialism does have an end, whereas those who... are spiritual motivated to fight for justice, the scenario is very different, so i think as as we move forward in whichever manner we look at it, it's not just israel, i think there is lot of negative image that has been created also on america, and this whole story we are hearing today about the fact that you know there was a cease fire deal and netanyahu had
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accepted it, this was between in already discussed between america and netanhou and last minute he went against it, i don't buy any of it, i think all these plants are being made together to just kind of improve the pr the us, because it has lost ground in every aspect, and there are bigger powers, there are other nations emerging, whether you talk about it, economically, of course now politically we are watching it, so going forward, i think not just israel but all the allies of of israel are going to be punished a very severe manner, whether we're looking at af. and we see south africa leading into this and how they they uh look at the us the west overall how there is lack of faith now in united nations which is just really. rich people's club of five permanent members, lot a lot of things have really changed on the ground, but think it is too early because there isn't a space at the moment to bring in
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really different things to happen because of an ongoing war, so once this war has been packed up, we will see lot more that is going to bring israel down, their economy is in the doll drums, their public opinion is literally completely bottle. rock bottom, so i think the real defeat of israel is will be seen after we have seen the arms going silent. okay, mr. mushan abbas, we have about three minutes left and we're going to have to wrap up this discussion, so with reference to what sakina just said, and we've heard this time and again over the past session, so uh, with the reference to what sakina just said, and we've heard this time and again over the past four days as we've been covering. uh these clashes and the escalation on the uh lebanese border uh, do you also believe that the reason why israelies are targeting civilians
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is because they have lost the war to the resistance fronts? absolutely, the fact that they're even considering going into lebanon and fighting hezbulah uh is a sign to me that they've lost the the lost the war certainly uh in gaza, they've certainly lost the war internally in terms of the... long-term uh possibility of israel remaining uh the bottom line is this that they failed on every level, they failed to to knock out hamas, they failed to knock out the tunnels that they got, they failed to get their hostiges back, their iron dome has been exposed, they've exposed themselves in terms of pr and diplomacy around the world as terrorists at every level, and they've got an isolation from the the the world public opinion, which hasn't translated totally into the the zio west. institutions totally yet, but even that will be very difficult to resist if the public wakes up at the rate that they are, and the the solution to all this is very
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simple, uh, you cannot talk about just cease fires or talk about going back to what it was prior to october the 7th, what we need is the dismantlement of the zionist state, what we need is the establishment of a free palestinian state, and until you get rid of the zionist apartide state and the fundamental justice that is there and the threat that that poses to all of its neighbors, and that going along with that is the exedus of the americans from west asia as well, unless those two things happen, the problem will not go away, tinkering around with cease fires or trying to create two two state solutions, this is all nonsense, it can't happen, the nature of the beast, the nature of design is state is a partide, racism, hegemony, imperialism, and the americans are... and parcel of that, they they are both nations born in genocide, they born of genocide, the the the native americans will tell you what the the us history is on that front, and the
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palestinians will tell you what they did to them in the nutba, and since and since then our videos and our cameras are telling us exactly what they do, so it is clear that this is a cancer, it is the fundamental cancer which imam identified decades ago and said, look, until you take this out, it can't... it can't change, but how do you take it out with a full b? i'm sorry, mr. mosanapos, we're running out of time uh, but we're gonna have to leave that for our next discussion, said journalist and political commentator joining us from london, also masakina datu, author, journalist and producer joining us again from london. thank you very much to both of you for sharing your views with us on this edition of spotlight, and thanks to all of you viewers for watching this edition.
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of life. your headlines on press tv israel conducts more strikes. on lebanon, prompting the hisbollah resistance movement to retaliate by targeting the regime's positions deep inside the occupied territories. criticizing the security council's in action on israel's violations, the iraqi prime minister says the regime's aggression against lebanon proves this disregard for un resolutions, and the israel's indiscriminate strights claim more civilian lives across gaza, increasing the genocidal war.
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