thanks so much, looking at live images, viewers out of that here beirot, as the attacks continue by the israeli regime on the lebanese capital, once again plooms of smoke rising up in the air, we had some figures earlier of 250 uh lebanese have been killed just in um um one part of the uh the country of lebanon and uh we know just on the first day 500 uh people were killed and uh we still don't have exact numbers because of course of the intensity of some of the bombings and unfortunately like we saw for and continue to of see in gaza we still have people under rubble of in parts of lebanon and the cross over to moscow now julia casam joining me by phone press tv thanks so much and julia for being with us julia we've been talking about this

divide and conquer uh ideology that is uh actually we're seeing in in with the um basically attack on the resistance front especially through media and propagating lies and trying to divide the whole um resistance front and the effectiveness of it or not, i want to read something to you though uh there was an abc journalists that just ask a um an of mp, this is in australia, abc australia, as mp peter dutton, she said talking about hezbullah, the question was, let me just ask you a question, why is hezbollah even listed as a terrorist organization, he did not answer the question, he looked at her, asked her from which organization she was from, and then she said abc, and he was taking a back, and and and why then are you asking that question, so let's look at this julia, your

journalists also, from that perspective, first of all, what has happened inside of these countries, this western hegemmonic front uh, as i call it, that even at times when journalists could be journalists there uh, to be working for mainstream, you don't even dare to ask a question like that, and i'm sure this journalist will be punished, will be... definitely punished, so we have that on the one side of trying to control the narrative, and even if someone wanted to uh try to ask questions of these regimes that could perhaps get to the bottom of what we're seeing, they won't allow it, and on the other hand we see the continual attacks on for example resistance media, resistance front and a whole psychological warfare, your thoughts, yeah, so this is... "this is how

western media works essentially, the foundations of it have to be built on this lie, and this lie has to be, and it's a lie of dictated by us imperialism. um, there were former reporters and and people from the cia back in the 60s who used to say that the cia literally feeds the media like object lies, and then that's often circulated in order to kind of create this manufacturing..." consent for um hostilities against people fighting for their independence, against sovereign nations, against any entity or any nation that um stands up to itself against the us dictat, us imperial policy. now um when we think about the the way that the media uses, the western media uses this language and censors the very foundations of what can be questioned or what can be um how how how

certain things are defined, like even just looking at this perfect example of the foundation of what westerners are supposed to believe about hizbillah, hezballah an organization that has defended the lebanese people from what is israeli terrorism, what has defended the the people in lebanon and in of syria from isis and daesh, terrorism, the organization that that has practiced immense restraint. and despite all of the genocides has balanced its putting the pressure on the zinus entity by destroying waging precise destructions on military sights of bases um while not relinquishing its central demand of not stopping its attacks until the war on gza a stops and even when the when the when the when the the focus of destruction and of attacks on civilians spread to lebanon they still maintain their principles of continuing

these focus attacks and not stopping them for any kind of separate agreement that would take the pressure off lebanon separately, the amount of principle that husbollah has. husbollah is truly the the most moral army in the world. and if anybody used to in the past in decades past, one of the first pieces of iof propaganda was at the zine sentity with which had established itself through the massacres of children and through the expelling of entire palestinian villages during the na and before that it's created simply through terrorism funneled by the the weapons of jewish mobs in in in the east coast in the us, this they propagated this - that they were the most smart army in the world, and this was the foundation of how westerners just supposed - design entity as moral and democratic against the the terrorists, basically defending themselves against them, so again we see this how um

colonial narratives puts basically absolve themselves of any kind of any kind of guilt by by establishing this foundation of of of civilization, of democracy, of progress, of truth, um, and you know, at the other end, the demonization of those that resist them on the premise that they're barbaric, that they're uncivilized, that they're um, they're radical, you know, so it's these colonial conceptions that have um, that the imperialists and colonis have used for for hundreds of years, that show up in the very foundation of... tropes and wrote about them, he wrote about the the the early zionist tropes that they perpetuated in their invented literature and their invented media just at the advents of the creation of the zionist colony um and and this this perpetuates these these false notions that

are then now circulated in american media that are continue to be circulated in order to justify the dehumanization and continued massacres of uh and the continued occupation of lands and the continued uh observation of their sovereignty. all right, thank you julia, viewers, you're looking at live images there out of that here, beirot, again, more attacks taking place as smoke plooms continue to rise, again reminding our audience, this is the this is the capital city of lebanon, uh, we're looking at, residential areas uh crowded city like most capital cities and these bombs uh are continually going off, we saw bombs of at least one ton, two tons, three tons, and we know that on friday night

85 tons, 85 tons of explosives used, and of course that uh led to the murderdom of said hassan nasrulah and many... other people right now we're getting more breaking news that four more lebanese have been killed in israeli rades and we know that at least 250 people in bakka just in that area have been killed during the last week or so uh i'm going to cross back over to cairo and get ahmed back in on this conversation i mean ahmed you heard what we're talking about in dealing with these these psychological attacks. and um especially in dealing with the the media, mean your thoughts uh on what needs to be done in order to break through still this this corporate narrative that is getting through to especially the muslim world even as we speak today, what needs to

be done? you had started earlier and talking about some parts of that, but i'd like for you to continue. yeah, i was maybe one of the uh or the few person that the since 2017 and i have records about it to talk about having our own suish engine in collaboration with russia and china at such time and i said that at the russian home or the russian culture center in cairo with the session that i was talking about russia and the other pole and some of the people thought that it was very progressive ideas and we it's first time just to hear such work because "i knew from the very beginning, especially during the arap spring and things like that, that media is very impressive and we should have our own narratives concerning to what our colleague in studio said, this is very crucial for our side, the four first we should have and in

this cazan summit for the bs, i think one of two things should be tackled, media and having our own you know search engine, this is very crucial issue and number two. de dolarization and the ways out of you know the how to circumvent the sanctions and how to having you know a parallel uh financial and monetary system for our own for the global house, these are the two main things for our sovereignty. number two, i think may be dress tv, russia today international, cgtn, those main and the other may be in brazil, the big tvs should have like a reunion or like maybe a big conference and we can invite the intellectuals from you know the global south just to put like a portfolio to reduce and new media for our own countries and things like that, this is very important part, it

should be precideed by having you know our own engine for the global south, the idea that already tackled since 2017 is not enough just to have national parallel social media or things like that like what russia did and what china did, but to have a collective action, this is exactly what is the missing point because we found that america trying to impose via you know the agreement. even by the trade agreements with you know the europe or the european union or the other countries or with canada and mexico or things like that, it rules before this media union will have our own and will impace our own narratives and cultures, scientific research, will avoid us all the western and zionist or new liberal thoughts that can train the wash the younger generation or the ordinary people who are not away not or things like that, this is very, very urgent and very, very

crucial, and i'm repeating that since 2017, i think this is, this is in brief what's supposed to be done currently, and also, as i told you, you channel, russia today international, cgtm, the media channels in maybe brazil or things like that, you have maybe we can arrange like a meeting, very soon meeting may be in iraq or... or any other country, just to collect ideas and real proposals about this and how to be implemented, not just meeting just for theories, no, i'm not leaving in series anymore, we should have practical solutions for this urgently, now not tomorrow. all right, well thank you for that, ahmed, you can see more breaking news at the bottom of your screen, yours, at least 20 more lebanese, have been... this has been announced by the lebanese health ministry in air strikes um over the last 204 hours again

um we have seen air strikes take place uh one more time uh today actually several times and during the night um i'm going to cross over to uh mariam uh mariam we have uh last night uh when we're talking about media and and the psychological warfare. "we we heard so much about the build-up of the israeli regime and invading lebanon, and then there were some that said that they had entered and what they were doing and killing. um, on the other hand, we haven't heard very much about how they were repelled once they tried to enter. um, i want to talk about the effects um of these mainstream narrative, mainstream media narratives and and trying to uh basically uh create a helpless situation or make the resistance feel helpless, it's it's as if

they really have not studied the makeup of the resistance axis, mean your thoughts on that, well mean you saw following the assassination of say hasan nasrullah who well definitely, mean he was something special for sure, it was a great loss, but ours following his assassination hit back already, you now it's and hizbullah has been basically restrained. how it hit hits back because they're actually trying to make this, they're trying to keep this a war of attrition because they understand the design this regime cannot keep on like this for years, it it has to basically the the entire regime will come to an end, so yeah they can you know uh bomb lot more, they can uh hit a lot the more places, but they're basically keeping it very controlled, so last night for instance uh hizbullah hit the mosad headquarters again. and then also the iraqi resistance for instance, they um used cruise

missiles, advanced cruise missiles uh and hit three locations in inside the occupied territory, so we have all of these basically, and all of these are victories, i mean let's not forget uh only few years back, you would not imagine even even major country, i mean forget about these small resistance pocket, even an army like a strong army like the iranian. army, nobody would imagine like iran hitting a us air, a us base, iran hitting a uh basically in israeli base, nobody imagine that because they are, they have basically made it look like the most powerful armies in the world and they're definitely the most well-funded ones and they definitely have uh the the latest technology that money can buy you know for basically for the weaponry and actually designist regime produces lot of weapons and has been selling these weapons to regimes across the world you know taking part

in the rwanda genocide taking part in the massacre of rohing muslims and so on, so basically what they are, what designers are trying to do is they're basically killing as many people as possible, and what that does is it it it takes away, it takes away hope, it people feel, people feel helpless right, when you see little babies being killed like that, and you want to end it and you want to end it immediately, so what that does is this major, major civilian cost, what it does is it actually makes a lot of. want to basically be like, you know, let's let's go all in and let's drop as many bombs as we can on him and and this let's you know not let it be the war a war of patrition but also making people imagine as though design this regime is winning well there in no book of warfare killing is killing civilians as a is victory

right of course when we constantly hear you know this many people killed here this many people killed here and of course we have to was happening to our brothers and sisters in you know in lebanon, in syria, in yemen, and all of these places that are being hit by the zionist regime or directly by the us, because anything hit by the zionist regime by the way, is is from the us, the zionist regime would not, the war would have, this invasion, this genocide would have ended within you, few months after if biden hadn't basically sent weapons to designist regime for just one week, so uh basically we see we see them murdering so many people and we feel like are we really winning, but here's the thing, this is that's the goal, they're trying to kill as many civilians, but the goal of the resistance is not to kill as many settlers as possible even though the settlers are for the most part not civilians, you know mandatory military service, men and women, they're all soldiers, all iof soldiers, but at the same

time uh what hizbollah has been doing with all of the basically resistance front have been doing, they have... have been hitting israeli bases, they have been hitting musad headquarters and um evil people are getting a hint, i mean they are you saw pakistanis and you saw iraqis moving towards and and trying to basically take over american embassies because they know where all the plotting goes on and all the spying goes on and and all of this so what it what designist regime is trying to make it look like is that because more people are being killed therefore the... victorious, they are the bigger power, but all of experts are saying is actually it's and and i mean they've been they've been trying to scare lebanese people into because they have seen that they cannot defeat hisballah themselves, but what they can do because of the media control that they have is they can try to make the lebanese feel like oh well hizbullah is not on your side

and you are in danger because of hisbullah therefore you should stop supporting hizbillah that's what they've been trying to do. uh, which is, i mean it hasn't worked so far, so what they're trying to do is they're trying to cause fear in the hearts of the lebanese, and really wrong crowd, i mean, we have these mothers of marchers, the the the minute they see their babies marter, they saying you, that was sacrifice for the cause, that was sacrifice for you, they say for sayad hassan and for sayd, they call imam kham, so they are that willing to make sacrifices for what is right and for the... section of these people and uh these basically the israeli propaganda has been, they've been saying, oh we're going to go in, we're going to go in, and all these zinus officials are saying we cannot, like this is a this is very different terrain, and these hisbollah fighters have been training for this gorilla war for ages, in fact sayid hassan before he was assassinated he said, go ahead, i mean bring it if you want to come

inside lebanon, just bring it on, because they are so sure that they will win this war, all right? but again viewers looking at these live images coming out of dahia now beirot uh we've been watching unfortunately uh the results of more is really aggression attacks on the capital city of uh lebanon uh julia uh turning back to you um i mean you know we're watching these images we know what's taking place in lebanon we know the israeli regime its ultimate goal is to bring about a wider war, get iran involved, get the united states involved, and to try to save themselves, because they have not been successful, obviously even in gaza, your thoughts though, tell me when watching this, the benefits of this for the western hegemonic front, for the united states, for the uk, for france, for germany, how does this benefit them that they

continue to support the israeli regime in the way that they do? the zinis entity has historically been a an outgrowth of western imperialism, as sayad hussen consistently reminded us in his... is from the time of said most of his assassination, he identified design an outgrowth, cancerous outgrowth of the us imperialism, as well as everything, many speeches, many speeches, including few in the years before his his his mardom, that this creates a scenario where there is a mutual benefit, um between the zionist entity and the us um these uh these entities both have very uh parasitic and cannibalistic relationship with the world where um they can

only live and expand on the colonial blood and death of uh of the places that they subjugate the places that they plunder and ravage um and the designist entity itself is just basically a uh expanding ever expanding us air field of course uh there's existence has in the last 30 years um turned back the course of that expansion in what sayied used to call the age of victories that he wrung in after the 2000 liberation of lebanon um but this created a situation that where the existential um it was the the the existential nature of the the zionist collapse really run to to the zionist entity so um it perpetuated this this uh situation of insecurity um where there was even um more aggression and more pressure coming from the us and and the

zianist entity on our region uh and that brought in the the false flag that created um the so-called war on terror um and of course the the creation of these these terrorist groups of by the us to serve us false flags for occupation uh both in the post 2000 war era the 2003 war. iraq as well as the proliferation of isis in the region daesh um so with with the sign entity in the us there is they're built on this foundation of constantly plundering and constantly uh and constant deft and that relies on the instability and the the the division and the insecurity of those places that they subjugate in order to be able to extract from them and to to build themselves off the blood. of of others um and so the they've established you know throughout the the decades throughout this 80 these the course these 80 years this mutually beneficial uh

relationship um but this has been turn the resistance is essentially turned back the course of that um in the last you know 30 40 years uh beginning with the islamic revolution in iran so um right now there you're going to be seeing lot more um lot more in fighting and lot more internal insecurities between the the the way that the both the us and the zianist entity as well as as we're seeing uh factions within the zientist entity themselves within the war cabinets and within the war minister and in between him and netanyahu there's a lot of divisions there's a lot of disagreements that have brought the war cabinet to collapse uh so we we're seeing really the breaking point of this global empire that these these two evil uphold essentially. all right, well we're looking at uh live images there. we saw black plombs of smoke rising up above the sea there. interestingly enough, at the same

time, an airplane was landing on the side. not sure exactly what's happening there. well, we're going to be back uh with more with our guests, but right now we're going to uh listen to an explainer, the israeli regime is not backing down from its brutality, and... to carrying out with its general pso onslot in the gaza strip, it's involved in bombing three other countries in west asia, most notably lebanon, as the death toe continues to climb due to israel's savagery, reported ground invasion is taking shape one that has been rejected by hazbolah at this point, now turning to kave who's going to bring us more on this, thank you for that, well this regime has has reported that it has begun its ground invasion of lebanon, now interestingly that claim is rejected by hisbollah, the blood thirsty regime is responsible for taking a huge gamble if it

has actually gone ahead with this move. "now it's high off the brutal murders and targeted assassinations, at the same time, if it does this, or if it has done it, it is risking the lives of his regime forces to meet the powerful fighters on the ground, something that it has been advised not to do even by its president and former military officials. now, if this has gone through, this is what it looks like in terms of where this is occurring, you could see the border there between occupied palestine and lebanon, these are the towns that either they have been target." which they have called targeted ground invasion raids, now that could mean that it crosses the border and then it comes back to its side. the iof has said his forces are striking targets located in the villages that you see here close to the border. some the border towns are the ones uh that have actually been hit before. that's something the regime does, it targets the town and then it repeatedly hits that town again and again. rusankura being the furthest point on the

defacto border that over looks. say now this is one possible scenario of the intentions that the israely regime forces may have. now if you take a look at this map over here, the one in the blue is the latani river. first scenario is for the regime forces to want to push back what they say hizbulah fighters, a minimum of 10 kilometers up to uh where you see the number two being, which is right uh northwerds of where the latani river is. overall what they want to do based on what they have said is they want to have at least a minimum of 29 km coming through. from um the lebanon onto occupied palestine. now the regime forces have stated that that is the intended goal. there have been successive uh diplomatic moves to that end, but at this point uh neither side uh have actually agreed to that in particular hesbollah who has said that they are not going to go and give that much of land. now let's move to uh this particular map over here uh between lebanon and israel is our focus. we're taking a look at what's called the demarcated line. it's

the blue line by name. drawn by the un uh from ras nakur that you see over there all the way through uh coming to to the golden heights that was established in the year 2000 after israel's withdraw from south lebanon, but the regime has constantly violated lebanese airspace and um it by default has violated this area then which is called the demarcation line and what will be israel and what will israel actually be facing if it does this ground invasion or if it has already, well let's take a look at what it could be facing, you're looking at 100 thousand fight. minimum of that hisbollah has, you're looking at missiles and rockets, 100 thousand in total, these are some of them uh that we have outlined over here, um, they have been targeted uh for uh day two since the operational flood occurred, so that's what uh the regime forces will be facing uh force that's formidable and it's even larger than the lebanese military itself, many of the fighters, season fighters of the battlefield.