tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV October 5, 2024 2:02am-2:31am IRST
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author and political activist eve angler joining us from montreal, and we also have independent international affairs analyst gilbert doctor who's joining us from brussels. gentlemen, welcome to the program, let's start off with mr. angler in montreal, the leader of iran's islamic revolution, ayatollah khamenei, he made address today, uh urging muslim unity against israel, how pivotal can that unity be when uh unity among many regional countries is the missing component in confronting and shutting down the israeli crimes in the region? well it could be, it could be uh, i don't know that it will be, it certainly hasn't been, mean if you look at even the bordering countries, they've basically... been complicit with
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israel's crimes uh or number of them have the different uh regimes uh in the region, but um it obviously could be, mean you it's a large part of the world's population and uh and there there obviously is affinity, but if you uh look at how the us and israel have been able to uh divide the region, weaken countries uh destroy efforts. development, subordinate different governments, um, it's it's difficult, so uh, but but it certainly, it certainly could be, and i think that one of the things that could change the dynamics is if some of these governments that have been complicit in the normalization process, have have, diff diplomatic relations, trade relations with israel uh, if they if they fall, whether that's in jordan, whether that's in egypt, or or... elsewhere gilbert
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doctor, staying with uh khamenei's address today, the leader hailed the retaliatory missile strikes by the iranian armed forces and he said that tuesday's response to israel was legitimate and lawful. now, under article 51 of the un charter, tehront exercised self-defense. that's a notion stressed by many iranian officials. do you agree that of this was a proper and justified response? yes, unequivocally, this that's exactly what it was, it was also very moderate, it was sending a clear message about iran's capabilities, about its hypersonic missiles, their accuracy, it was not intended to do vast damage, and it was definitely to avoid causing civilian or even military casualties, it was to to to to show an unmistakable way that israel's air defenses are incapable of
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countering the offensive weapons that iran possesses, in that sense there was a success, but for the general public, for the readers of the new york times, this is too subtle message, in in the pentagon i think there may be few acute minds who understand it, and that they were the ones were the audience of this attack by iran. right, and mr. angler, share with us. your opinion on iran's operation true promise to that was carried out uh carried out against the uh israeli regime on october 1st, it's being considered as a failure for the israelis which can no longer boast their military superiority and that goes for the us as well which could not fully protect uh israel uh have the iranian operations true promise one and true promise two have they changed some of the military equations in west asia in your opinion well they certainly change the couple weeks of uh
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one-sided uh israeli successes in terms of obviously killing nasarella, the the communications devices, blowing that up that you know clearly a whole bunch of israeli successes in in lebanon, um and so i think that there's no doubt about it that uh this show that israel is exposed, israel can... can cause lot of damage uh, but if it gets into a full-on war with with iran, iran can cause a whole lot of damage to to uh to israel. um, the leader of the canadian opposition party, who's going to probably be the next prime minister of canada, pierre poliev, he said, in response to this, these iranian missiles, he said, all of these attacks were targeted at civilians, none of them were pinpointing military targets. so as
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per my colleague uh the this is a canadian politician with the absolute lie, the lie upon lie, it's an absolute complete reversal of reality where they... targeted military targets very clearly, did everything they could to avoid civilian casualties, and were very successful uh in in those two uh objectives, but canadian public is so ignorant of what's going on that this politician can lie so flagrantly and there's you know there's no kind of response to it, there's no political pushback, there's no media pushback um so so this is the and it's the... dynamic goes on in the us of course um there's a small number of people who are following this uh properly who are seeking out uh alternative information but the dominant media is just totally one-sided and if you were to listen to the dominant media it's as if there was you know they the israelis shot all everything down uh it was a
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big failure and then simultaneously they were trying to target civilians though no civilians were killed um but it's um it speaks to it and then and if you look at canadian and us politicians like i just listened to joe biden, he's basically giving the u.s. giving israel a green light to to major uh attack against iran uh and canadian politicians are doing the same, this is um hopefully the more sober-minded military strategists in the israeli government uh realize that that's uh a big mistake and it's just going to lead to all kinds of damage in israel, but but uh clearly there's a lot of support among um the political elite in these uh g7 countries for um even more uh escalation by by israel in the region, right? gilbert doctor, let's uh um turn our attention to the attacks that are taking place in lebanon. israel is bombing hospitals, clinics, medical personnel, just like it did in gaza. many are seeing the
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aggression against the lebanese as basically a continuation of the gaza genocide. the world watched israel flatten and demolish gaza and murder over 40... one thous palestinians, the international community basically did nothing, will it do something this time around? let's leave the international community out of it, even coming back to your first question regarding the the muslim nations and what they can do to to alleviate the pain that that their brethen are experiencing in palestine, in lebanon and so forth. the the the to understand the situation we have to a step back from what we've been talking about in the last few minutes and ask who is driving this? the assumption i assume from the question and from the answer of my of my fellow panelist is that israel is driving this and the united states is supporting it. i deg to differ with that. united states is driving it. israel is the proxy of the united
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states and and the united states is practicing in the middle east through israel exactly the same proxy war that is that is carrying on with through by means of ukraine against russia, that has to be clear either to understand how the countries around will react, and what are the limits on iran's possibility of meeting the challenge? iran is facing the united states, not just israel, and i think your leadership knows that perfectly well, the general public does not aware does not know that, because i think mr. netanyahu is is drawing mr. biden around by the nose, that isn't the case. all right, and what about the issue of lebanon? could you address that too? that was a part of our question is a further provocation directed against iran. israel by itself at this point cannot take on iran, it has to bring the united states in. israel's waiting for for
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iran to be so provoked that it will take a dramatic action, which will you be used by the united states as cause belly to enter the war, the the way... out of this will be the conclusion on october 24th of the general strategic cooperation between russia and and iran, because then it will be perfectly clear that united states is facing not iran but russia. eve angler, let's focus more on the us's position regarding uh not just a gas genocide, but israel's regional crimes, how can washington at the same time?
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diplomatic support for all the crimes obviously in gaza uh which keep going on and that you know the killing still is remarkable level of killing uh and there's just new couple different reports out showing that it's sort of a minimum of 100 thousand people that have been killed in gaza is the is the correct number contrary to the numbers we hear um and almost everything's destroyed the buildings of un satellite tooth more than two-thirds of buildings 68% of the land um so the the crimes are really you know remarkable and then as we're seeing the... it's picking up with with uh with uh in lebanon and they can claim that uh you know they just blow up
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roads between lebanon and syria and you know because there was a hezbillah truck that used the road, i mean it that if you use that basis of justifying uh destroying infrastructure, i mean basically you could destroy all the infrastructure in lebanon um and that's that's certainly where where israel's going and and so when you talk about us complicity, i mean it's endless. i mean, the fact that it was, i just think on thursday, there was a new shipment of agreed to of 8.7 billion dollars, i think it was, on uh, about a week ago of of of new weapons right after israel's, all the uh walkie talky and other killings in in in lebanon. um, so so the us is totally complicit, and we're seeing that, just the rhetoric uh, that i just listen to with biden, he's not even. in putting any kind of breaks, i mean even at the rhetorical level right, like beyond the
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arms and all the other forms of support, but he he's putting very minimal kind of breaks uh rhetorically on um on what he's you know going to support in terms of israel uh uh hitting hitting iran uh and he's almost there's almost no you know threshold, he's not saying anything about threshold of of blowing stuff up in in in lebanon, it's all oh this is defend they have the right. to defend themselves and and on and on, so um, it is remarkable to see it, it it, it's kind of surprising to me at some level, because i do think, and that was the first question asked of biden, was basically, is israel intervening in the us election, or is netanyahu doing what he's doing right now because he prefers donald trump, and i and i, i am of the agreement, i agree that the us is totally complicit in all of this, but i do think that from the uh, camala harris's perspective, huge war in the region is not going to be good for her electoral chances, so and i do think that netanyahu is using
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this time frame in part um uh to basically help donald trump win, and um so so you know that's a variable in this whole mix, but clearly the us has uh has enabled, has supplied, has in some cases encouraged, i mean they there were political reported they encouraging israel to attack uh uh lebanon, um so u.s. complicity. goes to every different level in this in these crimes, mr. doctoral, yes, do you agree with what? no, i don't agree, the very, the very exhibits that he produced that that united states encouraged the attack, well let's take it to the logical conclusion, the united states is not complicit in this, the united states is directed. all of this and therefore it is
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very understandable that iran is moving very cautiously, iran is not going to take on the united states by itself, that's clear as can be, however, the russians have already put their cards on the table, some of them, and those cards are favoring the implementation of defense alliance with iran, and that is where things are headed, and it is only when the situation in the middle east comes a little bit closer to the situation in in ukraine, russia, that there will be an end result that we can look upon with some favor. russia is winning that war, iran will win its war, and they come back to your first question about the muslim world, all states, muslim or not muslim, tend to like winners and tend to abandon losers. if iran wins clearly, it's contest with israel and behind israel, united states, the whole muslim world will unite with iran. shiate, suni will make
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no difference. okay, eve angler, israel has a history of assassinations, but uh, it's been evident that eliminating individuals, even high-ranking figures has not defeated the resistance, and the core concept of the resistance, it will not just go away, it's not worked in the past, and hasn't work now, give us your perspective on that? i mean, of course, i mean, so long as the injustices of zionism are so flagrant, there's always going to be resistance, there's no doubt about that, and you kill you kill so many people in gaza and you're going to have more people that join uh hamas's forces and and similar dynamic in lebanon and elsewhere in the region uh it was just reported that the iraqi resistance was able to kill two israeli soldiers in the golan uh i guess probably few hours ago uh which is apparently for
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withdrone with drone a couple drones um and and obviously the the israelis the have such superiority in the sky and they've been able to, and they also have clearly very good infiltration of hezbulah's communications and they've been able to succeed on that front, those fronts very clearly, but they've had a you know the first few days of trying to trying to kind of prod hezbullah's ability on the ground, has a whole bunch of israeli soldiers have been killed and whole bunch of tanks have been blown up and and and things aren't looking very good uh at least in the initial phase on that on that front. "and i think that the, the hezbulah fighters know um, know the train, they know how to fight, and um, i think that the israelis are don't have the same kind of um uh, will uh to fight, um, and then of course with what we've seen with the iran's uh missiles, um, there's you know that on that front that level also
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israel is uh is vulnerable, um, but i, but i think that um, you know, i don't think israel is going to be..." defeated militarily at all, i think that that the best case scenario from from the resistance forces is is some degree of of of a bit of a stalemate with of course israel uh unleashing mayhem in obviously already in gaza and to a certain extent in lebanon um but uh but but yeah the the the issue is and then this is the long-term issue with with you know a whole region of over billion muslims uh hundreds and hundred millions of arabs in the region. is that so long as israel chooses expansionism over security uh it's eventually going to collapse, it has to collapse, it can't go on forever, this level of of of land theft and apartide and racial superiority, it can't go on forever uh and so you know eventually what the form of of it being
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defeated and and you know i think there's one the things that israel is just so drunk on uh on jewish supremacism and an expansionism that the people who are uh lot of people who are running israel are not actually kind of shrewed uh thinkers in in in the more messianic than they are sort of th shrewed thinkers in terms of um being more sensible uh and uh and and so you think they they may very well have bitten off more than they can um than they can eat your doctor your thoughts on uh the uh the persistence the resistance even when we see high ranking leaders and officials being assassinated um by the israelis which is uh it's common practice by the israelis and we've seen that in the past but yet even with the situation right now in lebanon following the assassination of sad hasan naso we see we see hesbollah resistance forces still um putting
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up stiff resistance against israelis. i think you have to look. at the audience for these assassinations, and you have to say consider that perhaps the israeli leadership is not very different from the american leadership, in which pragmatism has disappeared several decades ago, in which government policy is led by ideal ideologs, and they are in the game of public relations. the israeli public was ecstatic over the assassination um the the hez top leadership, ecstatic. mr. netanyahu's government received additional members in in the war cabinet, which is sure mr. netanyahu of continued rule for at least another year, so this was not, the assassinations are not intended or they
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wished for, but they will not have a pragmatic consequence of weakening of. weakening hamas and i think some people in israel understand that, however, that's not what they're interested in, they're interested in keeping their own power within israel, and for that purpose the assassinations were fantastically successful. would you like to add anything to that? yeah, i mean, i agree to a large extent, i mean i do think the the assassinations and the specifically the com disrupting the communications of, i think that... does have damaging impact on on the organization, i wouldn't go completely in that that far, but but no, the infrastructure is basically intact, it's a much more robust. organization than just even assassinating dozens of of of top leaders um and and uh and so you and and the people who are you know uh on the ground
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they know what to do when israeli troops come in they they they've fought and they know they you their their objective their objective is to drive the israeli troops out out of lebanese territory so so they don't need some command from on high to uh uh to do that but uh but yeah i think that there is a important part of this is politicking for netanyahu um and uh and and they believe themselves too right, i mean i think that the the us officials and some of the israeli officials saying that this is the opportunity to you know change the map of the middle east and all this kind of stuff, they do believe their own uh kind of rhetoric and they believe that that they you know can just just i don't wipe out hezballah wipe out hamas wipe out iran uh and it's just going to be some uh some new... middle east of of everyone's going to love the us and everyone's going to love israel and uh and everyone's going to be happy ever after, that's i think they believe that at some there's a lot of people who understand that's
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that's ludicrous, but there's a lot of the people who have lot of power who actually believe those kind of um uh crazy ideas, and mr. doctor, let's um ended on this note about the double standard and hypocrisy uh that we're seeing from the united nation from the united states and uh from international institutions, even like uh the united nations as well when they uh, the security council fails uh to condemn the ongoing israeli crimes and aggressions, if an arab or muslim majority country had done what israel has done over the past few weeks, not even the whole year of the gaza genocide, just the past few weeks, how do you think the west would have responded to it? your question assumes a just world? sadly, we don't live in a just world. the hypocrisy is the small currency of diplomacy everywhere. that is not the objectionable issue here. the
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objectionable issue is the genocide, is the mass murder that's going on, and that is, that is shocking beyond description. i don't worry about hypocrisy, i worry about genocide. all right, gentlemen, we're going to have to leave it there, author and political activist eve angler joining us from montreal. independent international affairs analyst gilbert doctor uh joining us from brussels, thank you gentlemen for contributing to tonight's show a special thanks to our viewers for staying with us on tonight spotlight. it's good night for now and see you next time. it was a shock. that was heard around the world, the 82,000-pound bombs which destroyed the mountain, that was syd hassan nasralla
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over the past four decades, the islamic revolution guard core has made great strides in developing its missile capabilities, defense program to guarantee the country's deterrance power. but can iranian missiles deter the country's arch enemies from serious invasion or... they punish them in case of invasion. october 7th, 2023, defining moment in the history of the region, a breaking point.
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unmatched sophistication, it surprised israel, then shocked it, then rocked it. it brought to the foreground the plight of the forgotten. we say that designism and the state of israel is the cause of bloodshed, they're the ones who are the criminals, they are the villains, the victims are the people of god.
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