nine pm saturday night here in moscow you're watching r.t. it's kevin zero in with the top stories this hour and first more than two million people a year die from aids that's why this weekend experts and scientists from around the world are meeting to try to find a way to save more people mainly through prevention but there's also a group calling into question the accepted wisdom to where this deadly disease actually comes from and they're angry no one's listening to them refer through the polls. eighteenth international aids conference will begin and head in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community workers activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a today conference going on making us a ton of definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for a singer he was one of the first diagnoses when it was a terrifying experience the same experience turned sixty. the trust

for information was just records. should try. so. hard to. conceive first. cigar since the discovery of aids three decades ago it's estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease with eva sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as a cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been a subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just hiv and cause doubt in the standard aids test which is based on the taking the presence of the hiv virus whilst you might think there are only

a small number of scientists who doubt the hatred for the aids very care the conference is a list of around two thousand five hundred names although scientists challenge the classic definition some to have different visas to treatment author and his dog t.'s alternative therapies to conventional aids fighting drugs so strong is his belief in these other treatment methods that he's written a perfect. twenty three years positive based on his experiences. right somber he deserves an explanation for free market reforms for cliff was a true. story true sir from so for us this dissenting from the conventional view that hiv causes aids say they can face eighteen hostility from the scientific theory is not occurring with the mainstream hiv theory of aids has even been compared to holocaust denial include a crime against humanity

a science that is alive has to have the permission to question a certain model of thinking serious thinking no you don't bring in here a dying patient so that we have to act immediately and give him something we're discussing here we're scientists and medical doctors why should we not be able to discuss i'm very astonished their reaction is sometimes so aggressive so that the official aids two thousand and ten conference will be one of the most widely watched aids events in the world every day some of the topics the likely to be discussed will be access to treatment as well as need technologies and hate hiv and injection drug now organizers have titled the conference right here right now which they say emphasizes the central importance of protecting and promoting human rights as a prerequisite to successful response to the problem. call for more on this subject in our lives by christian theology is a doctor of medicine who challenges the mainstream views on h.i.v.

aids thanks for being on the program dr why are you challenging the vast majority of the scientific community going to say this link is broken beyond all doubt what proof do you have that so different. well there is a number of contradictions and unfulfilled prophecy predictions which we have seen over the last twenty twenty five years there is no exit demick in europe there is no epidemic in the united states and in africa it's mainly renaming poverty related diseases and there's a clinician's i find it just not helpful and what it all comes down to ask you so you are you disagreeing with the u.n. aid you disagreeing with the world health organization both a very respectable organizations that do have the finger on the polls that say no it is an epidemic. what respectable they are about obviously they are and obviously they are driven by interests and we saw that just last year with

this massive x. in asia for flu and now in reach respect it is it's become obvious that they were driven by pharmaceutical interests and the same i'm afraid to say is true for hiv it's a huge movement mainly driven by pharmaceutical interests and not driven by the care for the individual patients and my obligation as a doctor is mainly to serve my patients but none the less. provan saw in the sore as far as most of us know program science you know you disagree is that if you get infected with hiv it is best advisory early stages to get retroviral therapy that will that will put off any development of aids symptoms as long as possible maybe up to twenty five years your really basically saying people if they do have a child they shouldn't worry maybe should we go for a test if they believe they put themselves at risk on all what you're saying isn't

what you say almost criminal in some ways well i'm sorry to contradict you i'm not believing i'm going back to the facts and the facts tell the people who. positive for various reasons even the producer of the tests are not aware of a standard to verify presence or absence of hiv antibodies in human blood and quote that's what you find in the product information even people who test positive not necessarily come down with aids even after twenty or twenty five years however those people who have been treated with reviles in the early ninety's they have been killed by their treatment which was a city one point five gram per day which is even our knowledge by doctors now is that it is lisa lisa so i am not believing i'm reading the facts and i am acting according to facts but independent no more pharmaceutical interests and that's what

i think what doctors should do regardless of the majority or not what sort of conversations do you have with fellow scientists who believe the opposite to you they believe the conventional thinking you're going to have to get to meet a lot of this meeting tomorrow after all how do your conversations go on how do you get by. unfortunately most of them they mix up signs with the religious or political movement and just as you said they say well but the majority believe this you should just follow i'm sorry to say science is not the majority vote science is a free competition of the best arguments and verifiable arguments it is verifiable that there is no epidemic it is very fiber that all the predictions from the last ten to twenty years have been totally wrong it is verifiable that aids treatment killed huge number of aids patients in the early nineties and it is verifiable that aids treatment today is just less toxic than in the early ninety's and i would call

for an open deep aid to test the best arguments and not for a majority vote in science which is totally dangerous and will lead us in the wrong direction to the damage of our patients ok with christian fellow doctor of medicine thanks very much appreciate it. europe remains in the tight grip of a heat wave in moscow the temperatures were really broken several records this summer on saturday some parts of the couple have been sizzling at thirty eight degrees celsius results reports know for many muscovites the burning sun just another reason of. he was. either. lying or.

was. was. was was. was was was was. was of course of to have another son of a heat wave on the way and look at how european fire relying on russian helicopters . coming up. live in the opposite direction. it will be.

tough immigration law in arizona is being criticized across the united states for allowing racial profiling the law that said to come into force later this month allows the police to stop and search people who are just being suspected of being illegal immigrants critics say will lead to the targeting of ethnic groups supporters though claim of all will protect jobs. in california found that if the illegals are gone they'll be no one to replace them. california. workers are picking the. americans and people around the world. it's a bank. not everyone is fit to do most of these workers arrived in the united states illegally so far as central america and many are oblivious to the political firestorm centered around them know what happened here for leave and then leave any time you have

a lot this is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot in favor of the fifty five million illegal immigrants in the united states. those could be american jobs those could be tax paying jobs but some industries especially california agriculture businesses don't want americans working for them. which translates into workers needed a spanish language sign definitely aimed towards immigrant workers a foreign based workforce that's making sure that. make it to your table there's no need for interviews or long applications undocumented immigrants simply show up at a field and they're hired many people including former president george w. bush i mean immigrant workers do the jobs americans used to do at a farm in oxnard a city just north of los angeles neighbors. the average american could step in their shoes even for a day. to hire

a. white person is too hard. i haven't seen any american here working here in the fields said you'll get it all came into this country illegally through the southern california desert he makes a dollar ninety for every box of strawberries he feels and now in an effort to employ out of work americans and obviously to prove a point the united farm workers union is embodied in american citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two they find themselves appreciating those who are taking the jobs we saw by the unemployment office to find out if people who are out of work would be willing to take the job of an immigrant farm worker if a farmer came up. as a farm worker. and now. that. if i had a job that got me out there got me some exercise but no heavy lifting at least eleven

dollars and up i would take it but i doubt that it's usually a lot of heavy lifting it doesn't pay too much there farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have. conservative radio host tony katz is among the growing number of supporters immigration crackdown he thinks the threat to the u.s. isn't just financial this is about people who may be coming with diseases we've already eradicated bring them back into the united states america has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration eric spence is the founder of we support arizona dot com he thinks americans will take the job of farm worker because an american will do what it takes to feed their family according to the united farm workers so far only three people have taken up their offer to take immigrant jobs in los angeles. r t. conservative author john romano and human rights activist reverend graham hagler crossed swords on this very issue in our washington studio discussing if the new strict immigration law is

justified. the whole argument is around the issue of scarcity when you've got all of these folks on employed all of a sudden you've got to look for a scapegoat for the reason why folks are employed but that's not the reason why folks ought employ the reason folks on employed is because of the way the economic system was structured wasn't regulated fell apart now the issue that you need to understand is that there's always been this country because of the capitalist system the race to try to produce more or less that has always been the case so what happens is that you ended up basically outsourcing it's not that folks took jobs we gave away jobs we gave away jobs right there on the mexican border when we passed nafta and we passed caf to all the free trade agreements it was so that people of corporations based in the united states could escape all the kinds of regulations and all the kinds of labor laws that exist within the united states it's the illegals themselves who cause trouble as well as the businesses i mean business is not innocent here business is cost and the american taxpayer billions

of dollars through skirting labor laws locally say reverend reverend how do you respond oh i don't want to have an encore again just a semantical question one is i don't call anyone a legal because there is no human being that is illegal they may be undocumented get a etc etc but it's a theological point of view to understand theological points of views and i guess that's why it's because i don't have a reverend if you haven't already what you're talking about in terms of their anti immigrant for is a new word for racism and what you're really talking about are keeping people in the shadows so that people can continue to be manipulated by corporate entities and you never look at the kinds of international policies that the united states has created another place that creates a force immigration to the united states in the first place and the reverend say that all he wants but the it's the word illegal it does count if you're breaking the law you know there is such a thing as illegal immigration the left is doing everything they can to change the fight from illegal immigrant to immigrant the law that has been passed that has

been passed in the soon to be implemented in arizona really opens the door to racial profiling because if you believe almost. side of the tracks one of the things you know everybody always like well the police can stop anybody without a reasonable cause well there's always reasonable cause when it comes to people of color to get stop you drive into shiny a car that's reasonable cause you look like you're in the wrong neighborhood that's reasonable cause that's always the issue this is just a new new new form of racism i just want to ask the reverend question should there be any border law at all should anyone be allowed to come here at any time for any reason and stay as long as they want the united states i just can i get some clarity on that from you know sir well the issue is of me yes of course you want to have some regulation to the border but it needs to be home it needs to be jazz it needs to really deal with where you're going as a country and it also needs to take into account the kind of policies that you have put in place and other countries like creates a forced economic emigration. we're going to solve the debate itself for we're asking you what you think about it on our forum at r.t.

dot com we're asking whether you believe immigrants are taking american jobs these are your thoughts so far thanks for taking part casey saying immigrants work hard they don't give up which means which makes them indeed the ones who shape the future where the native american is no they asked europeans came and took over. more thought skimming through our forum bender thinks it's not a bad thing that immigrants come to the us right in before an immigrant janitor took over my block i used to bump into rubbish every time i went out no it's clean and healthy tourist thinks there should be no borders anyway quote now it takes just hours to fly anywhere in the world why should it take days or weeks to get permission to travel thoughts too from panderers contacted the saying thousands of lost their jobs and homes during the recession so jobs shouldn't be given to those who never pay their taxes do you agree with any of that if you got the other thoughts let us know r.t. dot com go to our forum section. coming up to ninety minutes past nine at night moscow time some world news in brief for you to the b.p. story b.p.

now saying the massive car put on its ruptured well in the gulf of mexico appears to be holding the cap of stop the flow of oil from now into the sea for the first time since the disaster was caused by that explosion of the rig in april pressure testing is now being carried out of engineers are checking to see the are no further leakage is the oil spill's affected hundreds of miles of coastline and seriously damaged the region's economy. at least sixteen people have been killed in northwest pakistan after militants and pushed a convoy of passenger buses the vehicles were traveling to the city of push with an escort from security forces when militants fired five are reported to have been killed on the spot it's believed the rest died in hospital. this is the heat across europe's already caused severe droughts and created a significant fire hazard among the most effective tools used for extinguishing of some of fires especially adapted russian helicopters and as the temperatures rise so too has demand for these choppers rif an option has got the story. it's every

year hundreds of thousands of hectares of spanish forest disappear the reason falling or. the combination of the hot dry climate and human negligence often creates an unstoppable force resulting in a national catastrophe. but now it may have met its match. serving on the front line for many years russian firefighting helicopters are among the best and spain has welcomed their arrival we know that this is the best buddy cop there for five fighting. for the fighting is very very important market and. it's the start of the fighting she stood up we have this particular fire fighting helicopter the russian cave thirty two is capable of carrying up to five tons of water it takes just ten seconds for the crew to feel its huge container haiti's and just fifteen seconds to drop it onto a fire so it's rather quick which is extremely important but this isn't the only

feature that makes this russian models turned out. to seem to grow just not enough as it directions and tail rotor makes the machine more stable period and more accurate. they stability and accuracy also going to safety for firemen both on the ground and in the air. as that even at the if you sent over fire with flames reaching the helicopters cue she always feels safe i know some of the know now but it's made in russia but it works perfect hearing and it's easy to control easy to maneuver it's not afraid of strong winds when others can't even takeoff it continues to work it's an ideal helicopter to work in emergency situations as they say it's gone through fire and vice versa i didn't like it but now it's my favorite. pilot say take a fast cities always the last helicopter to leave a missionary or ten russian kafeel cities are already

a feature in the skies over spain which to me do join the ranks of the country's army and as the spanish timeline testifies that presence could be of critical importance reef notion otty alekhine to severe spain. with its world russian five zero korean is here. hello and welcome to business good to have you with us russia has passed a long awaited law on insider trading the new rules are intended to define illegal trading and what sort of punishment should be handed out to those who cross the line i do the question are reports. in the film wall street's by oliver stone gordon gekko makes billions by insider trading but the character that told the world greed is good gets his comeuppance of the long arm of the whole finally gets his hands on the antihero and we presume strips him of his wealth and send him to

prison here in russia the gordon gekko's of this world have much less to worry about until now after ten long years of talks it seems a low dedicated to stamping out insider trading is finally ready for presidential approval. and former head of the russian market regulator says this step is not only significant for the proper function of the stock market but also has implications for the whole economy which is having a little though is not enough it also needs to be plight you can believes the russian market regulator is currently too small to take on the tosk and the core system is too complicated but the chairman of andam sees a way out. because it's a serious political test. special responsible for. issues like the stock market like some special. according to the

latest research around fifty five percent of people involved in the securities market admitted to the selective disclosure of information lawyer over us says the new law would bring the country a step closer to international norms and will in hans's reputation as a place to do business just another sign up for all the contrary. to be a little bit more civilized than previously the government's ambition to turn moscow into an international financial center has become something of a mantra much of the infrastructure isn't. police the new business district dream since creeps to school i just assume poor you can go for investors is the theory money is as safe as the next person and for that they need to protection of the law i do question our moscow better than expected financial results from american

companies provided much of the driving force for the markets this week underage again head of research of forbes club explains the impact they had all russian ship prices. news determined main trend of the wall markets and most of the weak markets today we saw a sort of short correction and we hope that this positive trend to build be continued during the next three and the season of corporate finance results is going to be hoped that the results of the second quarter of the american corporate sector will be better than the same results of the second quarter last year russia is suffering from its worst drought in more than a decade in a state of emergency has been declared in sixteen agricultural regions some climate scientists believe the heat wave may be just the beginning of many years of hot dry weather. reports this could lead to a radical change in russian farming practices. central

russia here over seventy percent of the green harvest has been destroyed by the drought but because russia normally produces a surplus and weather conditions have been more normal in siberia the country would next period in green shortage days here however this might not always be the case if the summer heat waves become a more permanent fixture as some climatologists expect some use out of water for the precise point the roasted whole economist published a study suggesting that from the late seventy's to two thousand and eight in georgia cool period with plenty of rain now russia is entering a warm dry phase as the last two years prove and it will last until two thousand and twenty six two thousand and thirty. the hottest year in a cycle expected to come over the next five years this could be enough to change the face of russian agriculture as farmers are unable to survive on the poor yield from their land over a longer timescale

a prolonged period of dry weather is likely to force farmers to change their crops turning russia from green produce or indian culture the green bean and so on crops the to lose eastern of cultivated land for green which currently stands at fifty percent could drop down to twenty percent indeed this process is already happening in some regions. of the last year's drought we gave up most of the dry land on the left banks of the river we continue to cultivate the right bank decreasing from one hundred twenty thousand to forty thousand hectares. today's blistering temperatures might become the norm in a few years' time if some climate change scientists ought to be believed menu weather conditions will in evitable force change in agriculture with some crops becoming non-viable in a previously for areas with its vast plains to the south of the country may no longer be the breadbasket of russia instead it might become but he will be even

worse than does. the united middle business arts. that's all we have for you on this edition of business but you can always find most stories on a website r.t. dot com slash best. train carries away the russian empires gold reserve.

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from. moscow this is the our team news channel these are all top stories as vienna is said to host the international aids conference on sunday a group of scientists challenged the conventional view on where the disease comes from they say they don't believe a child is the only cause for aids which kills more than two million people every year. much of europe has been gripped by a severe heat wave record breaking temperatures have also been felt here in russia too threatening crops and forcing people to find new ways to keep cool. and arizona's tough new immigration laws have been causing fresh to face of course.