just after midnight here in moscow this early sunday morning the eighteenth of july welcome if you just join discovered and see in this hour the top stories for you and more than two million people a year die from aids that's why this weekend experts and scientists from around the world of meetings are trying to find a way to save more people mainly through prevention but there's also a group calling into question the accepted wisdom of where this deadly disease actually comes from and they're angry no one's listening. the eighteenth international aids conference will begin and head in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community workers activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a t day conference going on looking also tentative definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for the singer he was one of the first diagnoses and it

was a terrifying experience for information it was just because there are. very few . chatrooms. so you try reading the first part is to. be. considered a priest. cigar since the discovery of aids three decades ago is estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease with eva sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as a cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been a subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just hiv and cause doubt in the standard aids test which is based on detecting the presence of the hiv virus whilst you might think there are only

a small number of scientists who doubt the hatred of the aids they're a hair the conference is a list of around two thousand five hundred names all the scientists who challenge the classic definition some t. have different diseases to treatment author and his doctor he's a tentative therapy to conventional aids fighting drugs so strong is his belief in these other treatment methods that he's written of the twenty three years positive based on his experiences. somberly deserve an explanation for its. roof for cliff with. troops. still want to transfer from so for us this dissenting from the conventional view that hiv causes a city can face eighteen hostility from the scientific to is not occurring with the mainstream hiv theory of aids has even been compared to holocaust denial including crime against humanity a science that is a life has to have the permission to question

a certain model of thinking serious thinking no you don't bring in here a dying patient so that we have to act immediately and give him something we're discussing here we're scientists and medical doctors why should we not be able to discuss i'm very astonished their reaction is sometimes so aggressive so that the official aids two thousand and ten conference will be one of the most widely watched aids events in the world some of the topics is likely to be discussed will be access to treatment as well as need technologies and hate hiv and injection drug now organizers have titled the conference right here right now which they say emphasizes the central importance of protecting and promoting human rights as a prerequisite to successful response to the problem. so for a correspondent there let's go to christiane he's a doctor of medicine who indeed challenges the mainstream ideas on

a chart of aids he says his views are different because he's not driven by the interests of pharmaceutical companies. there is no epidemic in europe there is no epidemic in the united states and in africa aids is mainly renaming poverty related diseases and as a clinician i find it just not helpful and what it all comes down to ask you so you are you disagreeing with u.n. aid you disagreeing with the world health organization both a very respectable organizations that do have the finger on the polls that say no it is an epidemic. well respectable they are about obviously they are and obviously they are driven by interests and we saw that just last year with this massive x. in asia for flu and now in reach respect it is it's become obvious that they were driven by pharmaceutical interests and the same i'm afraid to say is true for hiv

it's a huge movement mainly driven by pharmaceutical interests your really basically saying people if they do i shouldn't worry maybe should we go for a test if they believe they put themselves at risk on all what you saying is what you say almost criminal in some ways well i'm sorry to contradict you i'm not believing i'm going back to the facts and the facts tell the people who test positive for various reasons even the producer of the tests are not aware of a standard to verify presence or absence of hiv antibodies in human blood and quote that's what you find in the product information even people who test positive not necessarily come down with aids even after twenty or twenty five years i'm reading the facts and i am acting according to facts but independent no more pharmaceutical interests and that's what i think what doctors should do regardless of the majority are not. he remains in the tight grip of

a heat wave here in moscow temperatures already broken several records in the summer on saturday some parts of the capital sizzled at thirty eight degrees celsius but as a test there are still are reports for many more ski vides the burning sun's just another reason to have fun. he was. either. lying or. at least it was at least. was it was. really was was

was was. was all of the other side of the heat wave heat wave on the way i look at how european firefighters are relying on russian helicopters to battle some of blazes. does move in the opposite direction. makes people more. scientific explanation the practicality is it works well. a tough immigration law in arizona is being criticized across the united states for allowing racial profiling the law that said to come into force later this month allows the police to stop the search for people who are just being suspected of being in the. critics

say will lead to the targeting of ethnic groups. in california found legals agung will be no one to replace the. california. consumer but millions of americans and people around the world. it's a back breaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these workers arrived in the united states illegally so far as central america and many are oblivious to the political firestorm centered around you know what's happened here for leave and they're going to leave any time i mean this is about lawful citizens versus the legal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot fence i'm in favor of the fifty five million illegal immigrants in the united states. those could be american jobs those could be tax paying jobs but some industries especially california agriculture businesses don't want americans

working for them. which translates into workers needed a spanish language sign definitely aimed towards immigrant workers a form based workforce that's making sure that these strawberries make it to your table there's no need for interviews or long applications undocumented immigrants simply show up at a field and they're hired many people including former president george w. bush i mean immigrant workers do the jobs americans have to do at a farm in oxnard a city just north of los angeles neighbors. the average american could step in their shoes even for a day. to hire a. white person is too hard. i haven't seen any american here working here in the fields said you'll get it all came into this country illegally through the southern california desert he makes a dollar ninety for every box of strawberries he fills in now in an effort to

employ out of work americans and obviously to prove a point the united farm workers union is embodied in american citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two they find themselves appreciating those who. are taking the jobs we saw by the unemployment office to find out if people who are out of work would be willing to take the job of an immigrant farm worker if a farmer came up to me and said do you want to job as a farm worker. and now. because i don't do that i do gardening in my own house if i had a job that got me out there got me some exercise but no heavy lifting it was at least eleven dollars an hour i would take it but i doubt that it's usually a lot of heavy lifting it doesn't pay too much there farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have an advantage conservative radio host tony katz is among the growing number of supporters immigration crackdown he thinks the

threat to the u.s. isn't just financial it over this is about people who may be coming with diseases we've already eradicated bring them back into the united states america has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration eric spence is the founder of we support arizona dot com he thinks americans will take the job of farm worker because an american will do what it takes to feed their family according to the united farm workers so far only three people have taken up their offer to take immigrant jobs in los angeles. are t. . also conservative and. human rights activists they crossed swords on this very issue in our washington studio discussing if the new strict immigration law is justified. the whole argument is around the issue of scarcity when you've got all of these folks on employ all of a sudden you've got to look for a scapegoat for the reason why folks are employed but that's not the reason why

folks ought employ the reason folks on employed is because of the way the economic system was structured wasn't regulated fell apart now the issue that you need to understand is that there's always been this country because of the capitalist system the race to try to produce more or less that has always been the case so what happens is that you ended up basically outsourcing it's not that folks took jobs we gave away jobs we gave away jobs right there on the mexican border when we passed nafta and we passed caf to all the free trade agreements it was so that people of corporations based in the united states could escape all the kinds of regulations and all the kinds of labor laws that exist within the united states it's the illegals themselves who cause trouble as well as the businesses i mean business is not innocent here business is as cost and the american taxpayer billions of dollars through skirting labor laws openly say reverend reverend how do you respond at all i don't want to have an encore again just a semantically question one is i don't call anyone a legal because there is no human being that is illegal they may be undocumented

getting etc etc but it's a theological point of view to understand theological points of views and i guess that's why it's so hard because i don't have a reverend if you haven't already what you're talking about in terms of their anti immigrant for is a new word for racism and what you're really talking about are keeping people in the shadows so that people can continue to be manipulated by corporate entities and you never look at the kinds of international policies that the united states has created another place that creates a false immigration to the united states in the first place and the reverend can say that all he wants but the it's the word illegal it doesn't count if you're breaking the law you know there is such a thing as illegal immigration the left is doing everything they can to change the fight from illegal immigrant to immigrant the law that has been passed that has been passed in the soon to be implemented in arizona really opens the door to racial profiling because if you believe almost. side of the tracks one of the things you know everybody always like well the police can stop anybody without a reasonable cause well there's always reasonable cause when it comes to people of color to get stop you drive into shining

a car that's reasonable cause you look like you're in the wrong neighborhood that's reasonable cause that's always the issue this is just a new new new form of racism i just want to ask the reverend question should there be any border law at all should anyone be allowed to come here at any time for any reason and stay as long as they want the united states i just can i get some clarity on that from you know sir well the issue is i mean yes of course you want to have some regulation to the border but it needs to be home it needs to be jass it needs to really deal with where you're going as a country and it also needs to take into account the kind of policies that you have put in place and other countries like creates a forced economic immigration. we're going to ask you what you think about this if you want to get involved in the debate take a look at our forum what r.t.d. there were asking whether you believe immigrants are taking american jobs here are some thoughts so far simply veiled in saying there's nothing wrong in people coming to the u.s. to work quote i'd like to see people who want to get rid of immigrants try to do what they do again that's one side of the story that came up in that report clip of

most calls for all immigration to be banned he says a country should protect its heritage by not allowing foreigners to settle thoughts to this warning from and held taurus think it should be no borders anyway quoting now it takes just hours to fly anywhere in the world why should it take days or weeks to get permission to travel on panda wrote in to saying thousands of lost their jobs and homes during a recession so jobs shouldn't be given to those who've never paid taxes again now the side that came up in that report what you think which side of the fence are you on tell us at r.t. dot com. so world news in brief note b.p. saying the massive cap that they've put on the ruptured well gulf of mexico appears to be holding firm the carpet stopped the flow of oil into the sea for the first time since the disaster was caused by that explosion at the rig in april pressure testing is now being carried out and engineers are checking to see if there are no further we could use the oil spills affected hundreds of miles of coastline and

seriously damage the region's economy. the sixteen people have been killed in northwest pakistan after militants ambushed a convoy of passenger buses the vehicles were traveling to the city of push our with an escort from security forces where militants opened fire five people have been reportedly killed there on the spot the rest are believed to have died in hospital. this is the heat across europe's already caused severe droughts and other first summer fires to take you to greece pictures of firefighters trying to deal with some dangerous places too large forest fires are raging near the capital athens threatening the coastal resort of. was out his way for a national report rush of the helicopters in the most effective means of dealing with fires like that. it's every year hundreds of thousands of hectares of spanish forest disappear the reason fire. the combination of the hot dry

climate and human negligence often creates an unstoppable force resulting in a national catastrophe. but now it may have met its match. serving on the front line for many years firefighting helicopters are among the best and spain has welcomed their arrival but we know that this is the best for fight fight the. fight if i can is very very important market and. it's the start of the five five that we have this particular fire fighting helicopter the russian k thirty two is capable of carrying up to five tons of water it takes just ten seconds for the crew to feel its huge container here it is and just fifteen seconds to drop it onto a fire so it's rather quick which is extremely important but this isn't the only feature that makes this russian models turned out. to students just not enough as it directions and no tail rotor makes the mission more stable

period and more accurate. they stability and accuracy also going to be safety for firemen both on the ground and in the air. as that even at the if you sent over fire with flames reaching the helicopters kill she always feels safe you know some of the you know now it's made in russia but it works perfect hearing and it's easy to control easy to maneuver it's not afraid of strong winds when others can't even takeoff it continues to work it's an ideal helicopter to work in emergency situations as they say it's gone through fire and ice first i didn't like it but now it's my favorite. pilots say that k. thought cities are always the last helicopter to leave a missionary or ten russian kafeel cities are already a feature in the skies over spain with two more due to join the ranks of the country's army and as the spanish timeline intensifies their presence could be of critical importance. alex hunter severe pain.

it's exactly ninety two years on sunday since the bolsheviks executed the last russians are nicholas the second and his family the death sentence three centuries of rule by the roman of the history of the moment our exclusive interview with the story and helen ruffled pours also written a book the last days of the role models. today i'm in oxford with helen rappaport she's an expert on the russian imperial family

particularly the last days of that arm on us who were assassinated in a pattern both during the bolshevik revolution helen rappaport thanks very much for talking to r.t. now you focus on the last thirteen days of that i'm honest lives in your pattern but why did you choose that period well when i looked at the stories of. the end of the dentistry i suddenly realized that although we knew the broad span of nicholas's rain and the overall story no one had looked at any great detail in those final few days particularly a new culture in berg and the main reason for that was because until the collapse of communism there was no access to some of the important eyewitness testimonies by the guards and your coffee or ski who was in charge of the party of the city was in a terrible state of panic the bolsheviks were basically taking everything they could out of your culture and work that was worth anything because it was the center of the mining industry so it was gold semi precious minerals and

they wanted to. that all out before the city foul so in terms of taking the imperial family there what do you think the saw for example must've felt when he knew they were going to catch him because your book had a large factory and industrial population a very heavily politicized workers who were very loyal bolsheviks and the sars heart sank when he was told that he was going to be taken there he said i would go anywhere but if you catch him but because the people there are so against me i once the family arrived in a pattern back they lived in increasingly horrible circumstances they were actually told the minute they arrived you are now entering a prison regime and there was a big difference between how things were in some polls square they had a rare relative degree of freedom to move about to go to church to go outside to see people in the outside world the awful thing that happened when they arrived at

you catherine but they're immediately greeted by a place surrounded by an enormous stockade a wooden stockade was built right around the house the windows were painted white so the family once or inside that house could not see the outside world they were denied newspaper so written i'd letters and parcels no visitors so they were effectively cut off and what kind of family were they at that stage well they were incredibly close knit family very devoted to each other and i think the thing that one of the fundamental things that held them so closely together was they had this very deep very profound off adults they also the girls in many ways were very in with sure of their age very on worldly they had lived such a cuckoo life that the alexandra palace in outside some petersburg and taught me a bit more about york of little ski he is often portrayed sort of maniac all murderer but in fact you sort of bring out

a slightly more complex i. his personality well he was an absolutely ruthless koepp blooded pragmatic dedicated bolshevik he was also a local checa chica was the precursor of what became the k.g.b. the the russian political secret service so he was there for a purpose he was sent in to enforce clamp down on the press and i say sion to really make the root regime there a very strict prison regime and effectively to prepare for what was now an increasing venture as he was that they might have to kill the family amongst the guards was there anything len that they weren't going to go through with it yes absolutely just before they came to kill the family you're asking was issuing orders about who was supposed to kill whom they were all given an individual target and some of the guards immediately said we will not kill the girls and the number

of killers in the end was reduced because of that and in fact the ultimate solution was putting all in a room and and killing them all together but that turned into a bloodbath didn't it and you've spoken to a forensic expert tell me what you what his opinion of what happened was well what concerned me was the terrible inefficiency with which they murdered them i mean some some people think they were just lined up in a row bang bang bang you're dead it was not like that it was a dreadful ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it was brutal because you know you're also didn't plan it he didn't check out whether they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't count the fact they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria people screaming and running around it was. an absolute catastrophe

because they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family really who had a quick death was actually nicholas because the minute they the order came to fire they all want to take pot pot shot at the star of course so they could say well i shot nicholas so he died immediately but the others suffered horribly particularly the children now the deep the murder of a monist family is often attributed to a sort of maverick branch of the katherine bolsheviks but you believe that the order can be traced directly to len it well lennon was very careful to always cover his tracks and he he never ever took responsibility for anything as controversial as the murder of the wrongness but he said categorically we must not have a living banner we must not have anyone surviving from the family around whom the counter-revolution could gather and gain a you know gain gain power so the decision was made in moscow during meetings with

dollar short in a man from the soviet he went back and forth quite a few times to moscow now got a shock and was very good friends with the arc of spirit law who was learning his right hand man said lapham had worked as opposed to the tapes for a new culture but he knew the city he knew the bolsheviks there and i think fundamentally a tacit agreement was given by lenin that when the time came and the judgment of when that time came was left to the culture and bobos it's when they knew that the game was up and the city was going to fall to go and kill more telegraph report thanks very much thank you. you'll see the score written three treatments high pitched twitter. this. from now

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bizarre to moscow as vienna is said to host the international aids conference on sunday a group of scientists challenge the conventional view in the news comes from they said they don't believe a child will use them only calls for aids which kills more than two million people every year. much of europe has been gripped by a severe heat wave of record breaking temperatures of russia to threaten crops and forcing people to find new ones to keep cool that. there is only as tough new immigration laws because in fresh debates across the united.