hello and welcome to our t twenty four hour news live from moscow of our time in story and expose and scientists from around the world are meeting in vienna this weekend to debate ways of fighting and preventing aids which kills over two million people yet as a furious debate within the medical community with dissenting doctors questioning the mainstream view that the child the virus is the only cause of the disease five reports now from ghana. eighteenth international aids conference will begin hit in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community workers activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a today conference going on looking at a ton of definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for a singer he was one of the first diagnoses when it was

a terrifying experience for information was just records for a. very. short term. feature or even the first part is to. be. considered first. cigar since the discovery of aids three decades ago it's estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease they've a sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as the cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been a subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just hiv and cause doubt in the standard aids test which is based on detecting the presence of the hiv virus whilst you might think there are only a small number of scientists who doubt the hate hiv aids their way or the

conference is a list of around two thousand five hundred names all the scientists who challenge the classic definition some t. have different visas to treatment author and his doctor who tended to therapies to conventional aids fighting drugs so strong is his belief in these other treatment methods that he's written the twenty three years positive based on his experiences . right somber deserve an explanation for three months of work through friends or can live with. troops. still want to transfer from so far as this dissenting from the conventional view that hiv causes a city can face a thin hostility from the scientific peer is not occurring with the mainstream hate hiv very of aids has even been compared to holocaust denial including crime against humanity a science that is alive has to have the permission to question

a certain model of thinking serious thinking no you don't bring in here a dying patient so that we have to act immediately and give him something we're discussing here we're scientists and medical doctors why should we not be able to discuss i'm very astonished at the reaction is sometimes so aggressive so that the official aids two thousand and ten conference will be one of the most widely watched aids events in the world every day some of the topics the likely to be discussed will be access to treatment as well as new technologies and hate hiv an injection drug now organizers have titled the conference right here right now which they say emphasizes the central importance of protecting and promoting human rights as a prerequisite to successful response to the problem. and my colleague have an hour and spoke to christiane medical doctor who disagrees that there is a global aids epidemic. there is no epidemic in europe there is no epidemic in the

united states and in africa aids is mainly renaming poverty related diseases and as a clinician i find it just not helpful and what it all comes down to ask you so you would you disagreeing with u.n. aid you disagreeing with the world health organization both very respectable organizations that do have the finger on the polls that say no it is an epidemic. what respectable they are about obviously they can and obviously they are driven by interests and we saw that just last year with this massive x. in asia for flu and now in reach respect it is it's become obvious that they were driven by pharmaceutical interests and the same i'm afraid to say is true for hiv it's a huge movement mainly driven by pharmaceutical interests you're really basically saying people if they do i shouldn't worry maybe should we go for

a test if they believe they put themselves at risk on all what you saying is what you say almost criminal in some ways well i'm sorry to contradict you i'm not believing i'm going back to the facts and the facts tell the people who test positive for various reasons even the producer of the tests are not aware of a standard to verify presence or absence of hiv antibodies in human blood and quote that's what you find in the product information even people who test positive not necessarily come down with aids even after twenty or twenty five years reading the facts and i'm acting according to facts but independent no more pharmaceutical interests and that's what i think what all doctors should do regardless of the majority are not. a hate way when moscow has smashed their record for the hottest day ever in the city where this is linked temperatures. so cost is so even

fatter the moment is on saturday hate such a fine degree centigrade that's ninety five degrees fahrenheit in the warmest week in seventy years and there's been tragedy however as some have sought to cool down in this well trained hate with two hundred drownings reported across russia the record temperatures are expected to last for at least another week in most cases but hell ready disrupted power supplies and hold it also the metro firefighters have been busy backing almost to finals and wildfires across the country surprisingly few however and a year ago and it's been good news for some one russian region has introduced a siesta while siberia is cold a sport there which if it should get in minus fifty degrees and this year is almost over eighty one degrees the thing in a little low that you find something right off the shelf and similar for the summer months for the weather is an excuse for. was was. the try to just lying around so

that it was behind me. rather than i was or. was out of. the to. look out. but there was so that. was you know it. was was. was great that he was there was there. was. while most provided throwing in fountains in the boiling heat european firefighters a bombing the fire some of blazes and later in the program we see the help they got from special. russian helicopters. and it.

still seems to me today does move in the opposite direction and tail makes the mission more stable period and more. tough new immigration laws due to become reality within a fortnight in arizona are facing a late legal challenge from the american government the department of justice has filed a lawsuit to stop the action from coming into force on july the twenty nine while five other states plan some of those however the measures will allow police to stop and question people what they reasonably suspect of being in the go critics say it will mean targeting of ethnic minorities but supporters believe american jobs must be protected from. reports from california. southern california. immigrant workers are picking the teats consume millions of americans and people around the world. it's

a backbreaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these workers right in the united states illegally so far as to america and many are oblivious to the political firestorm centered around it you know what step in here for labor you're going to leave any time i mean this is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot in favor of the fifty foot fence you know there's a living million illegal immigrants in the united states. those could be american jobs those could be tax paying jobs but some industries especially california agriculture businesses don't want americans working for them. which translates into workers needed a spanish language sign definitely aimed towards immigrant workers a form based workforce that's making sure that. make it to your table there's no need for interviews or long applications undocumented immigrants simply show up at

a field and they're hired many people including former president george w. bush i mean immigrant workers do the jobs americans have to do at a farm in oxnard a city just north of los angeles neighbors aren't convinced the average american could step in their shoes not even for a day is to hire a. white person it's too hard. i haven't seen any american here working here in the field said you'll get it all came into this country illegally through the southern california desert he makes a dollar ninety for every box of strawberry fields and now in an effort to employ out of work americans and obviously to prove a point the united farm workers union is inviting american citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two they find themselves appreciating those who are taking the jobs we saw

by the unemployment office to find out if people who are out of work would be willing to take the job of an immigrant farm worker a farmer came up. as a farm worker. and now. if i had a job that got me out there got me some exercise but no heavy lifting at least eleven dollars and up i would take it but i doubt that it's usually a lot of heavy lifting it doesn't pay too much there farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have. conservative radio host tony katz is among the growing number of supporters for an immigration crackdown he thinks the threat to the u.s. isn't just financial it over this is about people who may be coming with diseases we've already eradicated bringing them back into the united states america has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration eric spence is the founder of we support arizona dot com he thinks americans will take the job of farm worker

because an american will do what it takes to feed their family according to the united farm workers so far only three people have taken up their offer to take immigrant jobs in los angeles. r.t. . and you too can join the debate on our form of r.t. dot com and where asking whether you believe immigrants are unfairly taking jobs from americans are not and here are some of your thoughts civil sours there's nothing wrong with people going to the you asked to work i'd like to see people who want to get rid of immigrants try to do what they in grants have to do she says clean up laws calls for all immigration to be banned he says a country should protect its heritage by not allowing foreigners to settle but until tolerance things that should be no borders at all now it takes just analysts to fly anywhere in the world why should it take days or weeks to get permission to travel and finally pundit says thousands have lost their jobs and homes during the recession so what should not be given to those who don't pay taxes so to add your

voice visit the former page at r.t. dot com. it's exactly ninety two years since the bolsheviks executed the last russians are nicholas the second and his family and later in the program we talked to historian helen rappaport who's written a book about her last days after their last days after extensive new research. and some people think they were just lined up in a row boem boem boem new jersey it was not like that it was a drug for ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it was brutal because you know you would ask you didn't plan it he didn't check out what where they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't count they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria

people screaming and running around it was an absolute catastrophe because they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family really who had a quick death was actually nicholas. because the minute the order came to fire they all want to take pot shots at the star of course so they could say well i shot nicolas. and now it's time for other stories making headlines right now iran the. peace as the couple in its ruptured well in the gulf of mexico appears to be holding tight standing at a disastrous deep sea oil leak for the first time since april oil has gone into the sea otter explosion in which eleven died at a b.p. operated rate three months ago pressure tests have been successful so far but engineers are still checking for further leaks america's worst ever environmental disaster has seen oil washed up on hundreds of miles of coastline also causing

serious economic damage. at least sixteen people have been killed in northwest pakistan after militants ambushed a convoy of passenger buses the vehicles were traveling to the city off to show up with a nice quote from security forces when militants opened fire five people are reported to have been killed on the spot and it's believed the rest died in hospital. the european union's foreign policy chief says gaza blockade must end to let the region's economy prosper catherine ashton also called in the meantime for a further easing of israel's three year old blockade to improve the life of ordinary gazans israel recently relaxed its blockade to allow in more consumer goods but badly needed construction materials are still banned action also direct talks between israeli and palestinian leaders. much of europe is sweltering in a record breaking heat wave of crops and causing severe for forest fires greek

emergency services are battling several dangerous blazes the first of the year two large forest fires have rationing in the capital athens found by strong winds forcing some people to flee their homes and there's an area financial reports of russian helicopters are among the most effective weapons in combating summer fires . every year hundreds of thousands of hectares of spanish forest disappear the reason. the combination of the hot dry climate and human negligence often creates an unstoppable force resulting in a national catastrophe. but now we may have medics match serving on the front line for many years firefighting helicopters are among the best and spain has welcomed their arrival we know that this is the best there for five. out of all you know if i can is very very important market and the come of the right it's the start of

the fighting she stood up without this particular firefighting helicopter the russian k. thirty two is capable of carrying up to five tons of water it takes just ten seconds for the crew to feel its huge container here it is and just fifteen seconds to drop it onto a fire so it's rather quick which is extremely important but this isn't the only feature that makes this russian models turned out. they seem to just move in the opposite directions and the tail rotor makes the mission more stable purine and more. the stability and accuracy also going to safety for firemen both on the ground and in the air. elise's has that even at the if you sent over fire with flames reaching the helicopters kill she always feels safe. it's made in russia but it works perfect here in london it's easy to control easy to maneuver it's not afraid of strong winds when others can't even takeoff it

continues to work it's an ideal helicopter to work in emergency situations as they say it's gone through fire and vice versa i didn't like it but now it's my favorite pilot say the case cities always the last helicopter to leave a missionary or ten russian kafeel cities are already a feature in the skies over spain was to me to join the ranks of the country's army and as the spanish salmon intensifies their presence could be of critical importance. not to be allocated to severe pain there and now we're taking you from the sky bang down to earth and in fact on the ground this week small scarred hopes on to the city's famous metro network with host martin enders even taking some lessons in driving a train. coming up to our platform now this is the first i've been the focus of a metro train like a lot. of red square in the kremlin it's one of the main tourist attractions in the

capital a must see for any visitor. it's exactly ninety two years on sunday says the bolsheviks executed the last russians on the clothes the second and his family the doubts and three centuries of rule where they were him out of dynasty in a moment our exclusive interview with historian helen rappaport who's also written the book the last days of the romano's.

today i'm in oxford with helen rappaport she's an expert on the russian imperial family particularly the last days of that arm on us who were assassinated in a classroom both during the bolshevik revolution helen rappaport thanks very much for talking to r.t. now you focus on the last thirteen days of that are moneths lives in your classroom but why did you choose that period well when i looked at the stories of. the end of the dentistry i suddenly realised that although we knew the broad span of nicholas's rain and the overall story no one had looked at any great detail in those final few days particularly new culture and berg and the main reason for that

was because until the collapse of communism there was no access to some of the important eyewitness testimonies by the guards and your crew for your oscar who was in charge of the parts of the city was in a terrible state of panic the bolsheviks were basically taking everything they could out of your culture and work that was worth anything because it was the center of the mining industry so it was gold some precious minerals and they wanted to get that all out before the city fell so in terms of taking the imperial family there what do you think the saw for example must of. when he knew they were going to catch him because your book had a large factory and industrial population a very heavily politicized workers who were very loyal bolsheviks and the sars heart sank when he was told that he was going to be taken there he said i would go anywhere but if you catch him but because the people there are so against me i once

the family arrived in a pattern back they lived in increasingly horrible circumstances they were actually told the minute they arrived you are now entering a prison regime and there was a big difference between how things were in some polls square they had a rare relative degree of freedom to move about to go to church to go outside to see people in the outside world the awful thing that happened when they arrived at you catherine but they're immediately greeted by a place surrounded by an enormous stockade a wooden stockade was but built right around the house the windows were painted white so the family once they're inside that house could not see the outside world they were denied newspapers they were denied letters and parcels no visitors so they were effectively cut off and what kind of family were they at that stage well they were incredibly close knit family very devoted to each other and i think the

thing that one of the fundamental things that held them so closely together was they had this very deep very profound orthodox faith also the girls in many ways were very immature for their age very on worldly they had lived such a cuckoo life that the alexander palace in outside some petersburg and so it's made it more about yet of little ski he is often portrayed sort of maniac all murderer but in fact you sort of bring out a slightly more complex side to his personality well he was an absolutely ruthless cope blooded pragmatic dedicated bolshevik he was also a local. checa chica was the precursor of what became the k.g.b. the the russian political secret service so he was there for a purpose he was sent in to enforce clamp down on the press nice ation to really make the route regime there a very strict prison regime and effectively to prepare for what was now an

increasing venture as he was that they might have to kill the family amongst the guards was there anything that they weren't going to go through with it yes absolutely just before they came to kill the family you're asking was issuing orders about who was supposed to kill whom they were all given an individual target and some of the guards immediately said we will not kill the girls and the number of killers in the end was reduced because of that and in fact the ultimate solution was putting all in a room and and killing them all together but that turned into a bloodbath didn't say and you've spoken to a forensic expert tell me what you what his opinion of what happened was well what concerned me was the terrible inefficiency with which they murdered them i mean some some people think they were just lined up in a row bang bang bang you're dead it was not like that it was a dreadful ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it

was brutal because you know you're also didn't plan it he didn't check out whether they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't account the fact they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria people screaming and running around it was an absolute catastrophe because they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family really who had a quick death was actually nicholas. because the minute they the order came to fire they all want to take pot pot shot at the star of course so they could say well i shot nicholas so he died immediately but the others suffered horribly particularly the children now the deep that the murder of a family is often attributed to a sort of maverick branch of the kasserine bolsheviks but you believe that the

order can be traced directly to lenin well lenin was very careful to always cover his tracks and he he never ever took responsibility for anything as controversial as the merger of the wrongness but he said categorically we must not have a living banner we must not have anyone surviving from the family around whom the counter-revolution could could gather and gain a you know gain gain power so the decision was made in moscow during meetings with dollars short in a man from the soviet who went back and forth quite a few times to moscow now got a shock and was very good friends with the arc of spheres a lot of who was learning his right hand man said lawford had worked as a bolshevik agitator a new culture but he knew the city he knew the bolsheviks there and i think fundamentally a tacit agreement was given by lenin that when the time came and the judgment of when that time came was left to the culture and bobos when they knew that the game

was up and the city was going to fall to go in and kill more telegraph report thanks very much thank you. sailors called it the same canary due to its high pitched. this moment communicated . trying to see. to its mind which. the secrets of. every month we give you the future we help you understand how it will get there and what tomorrow brings the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world. join us for technology update on our g.

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