international news life for this is all to see with me you list above all of us thanks for joining us expose and scientists from around the world are meeting in vienna this weekend to debate ways of fighting and preventing aids which kills over two million people yet there's a few as debate within the medical community with some dissenting doctors questioning the mainstream view that the hiv virus is the only cause of the disease also use our first reports from yet for us. eighteenth international aids conference will begin hit in vienna bringing together around twenty five thousand policymakers scientists community work is activists and people living with hiv to discuss the latest developments in the stills but right now there's a two day conference going on looking little tentative definitions and treatments of hiv and aids when the aids epidemic first hit the headlines in the one nine hundred eighty s. it caused widespread panic for a singer he was one of the first diagnosed it was a terrifying experience for information was just because it's right.

here. in central. feature even the first protocols to. consider princeton. cigar since the discovery of aids three decades ago it's estimated a twenty five million people have died from the disease they've a sixty million people infected in that time according to the united nations u.s. scientists identified hiv as the cause and developed a successful test to detect its presence but this has itself been the subject to scientific disagreement some believe there are different causes of aids not just hiv and cost out in the standard aids test which is based on detecting the presence of the hiv virus whilst you might think there are only a small number of scientists who doubt the hate hiv aids their way here at the

conference is a list of around two thousand five hundred names all the scientists who challenge the classic definition some to have different views as to treatment author and his doctor to use alternative therapies to conventional aids fighting drugs so strong is his belief in these other treatment methods that he's written of the twenty three years positive based on his experiences. brian songbird deserve an explanation for the strengths the market reforms or could live for the troops. still want to transfer from so far this dissenting from the conventional view that hiv causes aids so they can face a fine hostility from the scientific peer is not occurring with the mainstream hiv theory of aids has even been compared to holocaust denial include a crime against humanity a science that is a life has to have the permission to question a certain model of thinking serious thinking they don't bring in here

a dying patient so that we have to act immediately and give him something we are discussing here we're scientists and medical doctors why should we not be able to discuss i'm very astonished at the reaction is sometimes so aggressive so that the official aids two thousand and ten conference will be one of the most widely watched aids events in the world every day some of the topics the likely to be discussed will be access to treatment as well as new technologies and hate hiv and injection drug now organizers have titled the conference right here right now which they say emphasizes the central importance of protecting and promoting human rights as a prerequisite to successful response to the problem. my colleague kevin allen spoke to christiane fiala and medical doctor who disagrees that there's a global aids epidemic. there is no epidemic in europe there is no epidemic in the

united states and in africa aids is mainly renaming poverty related diseases and as a clinician i find it just not helpful and what it all comes down to ask you so you are you disagreeing with you an age you disagree with the world health organization both very respectable organizations that do have the finger on the polls that say no it is an epidemic. what respectable they are about obviously they can obviously they are driven by interests and we saw that just last year with this massive x. in asia for flu and now in reach respect it is it's become obvious that they were driven by pharmaceutical interests and the same i'm afraid to say is true for hiv it's a huge movement mainly driven by pharmaceutical interests your really basically saying people if they do it shouldn't worry maybe should we go for

a test if they believe they put themselves at risk on all what you saying is what you say almost criminal in some ways well i'm sorry to contradict you i'm not believing i'm going back to the facts and the facts tell the people who test positive for various reasons even the producer of the tests are not aware of a standard to verify presence or absence of hiv antibodies in human blood and quote that's what you find in the product information even people who test positive not necessarily come down with aids even after twenty or twenty five years reading effect and acting according to facts but independent no more pharmaceutical interests and that's what i think what all doctors should do regardless of the majority are not. a hate wave in moscow ha smashed their record for the whole tuesday ever in the city with sizzling temperatures for costa so even

fatter similar to those on saturday hates such a five degrees centigrade that's ninety five degrees fahrenheit in the warmest week in seventy is that has been a tragedy however as some have sought to cool down in this well trained hate with two hundred drownings reported across russia the record temperatures are expected to last for at least another week in moscow but have already destructive power supplies are halted parts of metro firefighters have been busy backing almost a thousand wildfires wildfires across the country surprisingly few however that a year ago and it's been good news for some one russian region has introduced a siesta while siberia is cold a sport there which shivered in minus fifty degrees at or this year is almost over eighty five degrees move in the right people set to five some to great but as also his tests are seen as a force for someone will screw the weather is an excuse for fun in the sun. it was and yet you. try to

just lying around and say that this was behind me. rather than my work. was the out of. the. people are. all there was so. i was. like i was. looking. for exactly was it was there and i. was. in the wild all screwed. frolicking fountains in the boiling heat european firefighters are battling the blazes and later in the program we'll see how they get from specialist russian helicopters. was. still

sitting today it is moving looks it directions and tail makes the mission more stable here in. tough new immigration law is due to become a reality within a fortnight in a reserve off a single later legal challenge from the american government the department of justice has wild a lawsuit to stop the act from coming into force on july the twenty ninth while five other states plan similar laws however the measures would allow police to stop and question people if they reasonably suspect immigrants critics say it will mean targeting of ethnic minorities but supporters believe american jobs must be protected in the kids. report some kind of. southern california. immigrant workers are picking the key to consume millions of americans and people around the world. it's

a backbreaking job not everyone is fit to do most of these illegal workers right in the united states illegally so from as far as central america and many are oblivious to the political firestorm certainly go around it you know what spat in here from the reverend you're going to leave any time i mean this is about lawful citizens versus the legal invaders if you want to build a fifty foot then some in favor of the fifty foot fence you know there's a living million illegal immigrants in the united states. those could be american jobs those could be tax paying jobs but some industries especially california agriculture businesses don't want americans working for them. which translates into workers needed a spanish language sign definitely aimed towards immigrant workers a foreign based workforce that's making sure that. make it to your table there's no need for interviews or long applications undocumented immigrants simply show up at

a field and they're hired many people including former president george w. bush i mean immigrant workers do the jobs americans used to do at a farm in oxnard a city just north of los angeles neighbors aren't convinced the average american could step in their shoes even for a day. to hire a. white person is too hard. i haven't seen any american here working here in the fields said you'll get it all came into this country illegally through the southern california desert he makes a dollar ninety for every box of strawberries she fills in now in an effort to employ out of work americans and obviously to prove a point the united farm workers union is embodied in american citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two they find themselves appreciating those who are taking the jobs we saw by the unemployment office to find out if people who are out of work would be

willing to take the job of an immigrant farm worker if a farmer came up. as a farmer. and now. that. if i had a job that got me out there got me some exercise but no heavy lifting at least eleven dollars and up i would take it but i doubt that it's usually a lot of heavy lifting it doesn't pay too much there farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have. conservative radio host tony katz is among the growing number of supporters immigration crackdown he thinks the threat to the u.s. isn't just financial this is about people who may be coming with diseases we've already eradicated bringing them back into the united states america has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration eric spence is the founder of we support arizona dot com he thinks americans will take the job of farm worker because an american will do what it takes to feed their family according to the

united farm workers so far only three people have taken up there are for to take immigrant jobs in los angeles. r t. u two can also join the debate on our forum dot com they're asking whether you believe. americans or not and he has some of your thoughts. so about sars there's nothing wrong with people going to the us to watch i'd like to see people who want to get rid of the ground trying to do what they say that you know grounds have to do is just plain of north calls of integration into the bunker and it's as a country it should protect its heritage by not allowing foreigners to settle but i'll tell taurus francs that should be no borders a tour now it takes just hours to fly anywhere in the world why should it take days or weeks to get permission to travel and flying a pundit says thousands have lost their jobs and homes during the recession so what

should not be given to those who don't pay taxes to add your voice visit the former page at terminal. it's exactly ninety years since the bolsheviks executed the last russians on nicholas the second and his family and later in the program we talked to a historian helen rappaport who's written a book about their last days after extensive new research. some people think they were just lined up in a row bang bang bang you're dead it was not like that it was a drug fall ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it was brutal because you know your oscar didn't plan it he didn't check out whether they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't count the fact they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria people screaming and running around it was an absolute catastrophe because

they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family really who had a quick death was actually nicholas because the minute the order came to fire they all want to take pot pot shot at the star of course so they could say well i shot nicholas. time now to check some other stories making news around the world. on its ruptured well of the gulf of mexico appears to be holding tight staring at disastrous a deep sea oil leak for the first time since april oil has gushed into the city and other after an explosion and which eleven died at a b.p. operated rig three months ago pressure tests have been successful so far but engineers are still checking for further leaks america's worst ever environmental disaster has seen oil washed up on hundreds of miles of coastline also causing serious economic times. at least sixteen people have been killed in northwest

pakistan after militants ambushed a convoy of ponson buses the vehicles were traveling to the city off the shiela with an escort from security forces with a one militants opened fire so five people are reported to have been killed on the spot on days believe the rest died in hospital. the european union's foreign policy chief says gaza's blockade last and to let the region's economy prosper catherine ashton also called in the meantime for a further easing of israel's three year old location to improve the lives of what you regard as israel recently relax its blockade to allow in more consumer goods a badly needed construction materials are still banned and also direct talks between israeli and palestinian leaders. mulching europe is sweltering in a record breaking heat wave of wilting crops and causing severe forest fire as greek emergency services are battling several dangerous blazes the first of the

year to a large forest fires have raged near the capital athens found by strong winds forcing some people to flee their homes as autism earlier finished a report of russian helicopters are among the most effective weapons in combat in south finds. its every year hundreds of thousands of hectares of spanish forests disappear the reason. the combination of the hot dry climate and human negligence often creates an unstoppable force resulting in a national catastrophe. but now we may have medics match. serving on the front line for many years russian firefighting helicopters are among the best and spain has welcomed their arrival we know that this is the best thirty quarter for fight fighting. you know for the fighting is very very important market and the calm of the right it's the start of the fighting she stood up we have this particular fire

fighting helicopter the russian k. thirty two is capable of carrying up to five tons of water it takes just ten seconds for the crew to feel its huge container haiti's and just fifteen seconds to drop it onto a fire so it's rather quick which is extremely important but this isn't the only feature that makes this russian models turned out. to be certain to just move enough as it directions and no tail rotor makes the machine more stable period and more accurately. the stability and accuracy also going to safety for firemen both on the ground and in the air. elise's has that even at the if you sent over fire with flames reaching the helicopters kill she always feels safe and. it's made in russia but it works perfect here in london it's easier to control easier to maneuver it's not afraid of strong winds when others can't even takeoff

it continues to work it's an ideal helicopter to work in emergency situations as they say it's gone through fire and vice versa i didn't like it but now it's my favorite pilot say the k. thought cities always the last helicopter to leave a missionary or ten russian kafeel cities are already a feature in the skies over spain to me due to join the ranks of the country's army and as the spanish sam-i intensifies their presence could be of critical importance . alex hunter severe pain. it's exactly ninety two years on sundays is the bolsheviks executed the last russian emperor nicholas the second and his family the deaths and three centuries of rule by the remand of dentistry in a moment our exclusive interview with his torrent helen rappaport whose expert research has been turned into the book the last days of the ramona.

today i'm in oxford with helen rappaport she's an expert on the russian imperial family particularly the last days of that arm on us who were assassinated in a classroom biogen in the bolshevik revolution helen rappaport thanks very much for talking to r.t. now you focus on the last thirteen days of that i'm on a fly in your pattern but why did you choose that period well when i looked at the stories of. the end of the dentistry i suddenly realised that although we knew the

broad span of nicholas's rain and the overall story no one had looked at any great detail in those final few days particularly new courtroom berg and the main reason for that was because until the collapse of communism there was no access to some of the important eyewitness testimonies by the guards and your coffee or ski who was in charge of the parts of the city was in a terrible state of panic the bolsheviks were basically taking everything they could out of your culture and work that was worth anything because it was the center of the mining industry so it was gold some precious minerals and they wanted to get that all out before the city fell so in terms of taking the imperial family there what do you think the saw for example must've felt when he knew they were going to catch him by. culture in vogue had a large factory and industrial population a very heavily politicized workers who were very loyal bolsheviks and the sars

heart sank when he was told that he was going to be taken there he said i would go anywhere but if you catch him but because the people there are so against me i want the family arrived in a pattern but they lived in increasingly horrible circumstances they were actually told the minute they arrived you are now entering a prison regime and there was a big difference between how things were in some polls square they had a rare relative degree of freedom to move about to go to church to go outside to see people in the outside world the awful thing that happened when they arrived at you catherine but they're immediately greeted by a place surrounded by an enormous stockade a wooden stockade was built right around the house the windows were painted white so the family once they're inside that house could not see the outside world they were denied newspapers they were denied letters and parcels no visitors so they

were effectively cut off and what kind of family were they at that stage well they were incredibly close knit family very devoted to each other and i think the thing that one of the fundamental things that held them so closely together was they had this very deep very profound orthodox faith and also the girls in many ways were very immature for their age very on worldly they've lived such a cuckoo life that the alexander palace in outside some petersburg and taught me a bit more about yakov little ski he is often portrayed sort of maniac all murderer but in fact you sort of bring out a slightly more complex side to his personality well he was an absolutely ruthless cope blooded pragmatic dedicated bolshevik he was also a local checker man. it was the precursor of what became the k.g.b. the the russian political secret service so he was there for

a purpose he was sent in to enforce clamp down on the press and i say sion to really make the route regime there a very strict prison regime and effectively to prepare for what was now an increasing venture as he was that they might have to kill the family amongst the guards was there anything len that they weren't going to go through with it yes absolutely just before they came to kill the family you're asking was issuing orders about who was supposed to kill whom they were all given an individual target and some of the guards immediately said we will not kill the girls and the number of killers in the end was reduced because of that and in fact the ultimate solution was putting all in a room and and killing them all together but that turned into a bloodbath didn't it and you've spoken to a forensic expert tell me what you what his opinion of what happened was well what concerned me was the terrible inefficiency with which they murdered them i mean

some some people think they were just lined up in a row bang bang bang you're dead it was not like that it was a dreadful ill conceived ill executed murder you can't say it was an execution it was brutal because you know you're also didn't plan it he didn't check out whether they were these guys were good shots they didn't check the guns they had a mixture of some efficient guns browning's and colts and also old army issue not guns which probably didn't work they didn't count the fact they were killing eleven people in a small dark basement room which rapidly became full of acrid smoke noise panic hysteria people screaming and running around it was an absolute catastrophe because they then had to brutally finish them off the only one of them the family really who had a quick death was actually nicholas because the minute. they the order came to fire they all want to take pot pot shot at the star of course so they could say well i

saw it nicholas so he died immediately but the others suffered horribly particularly the children now the deep that the murder of a family is often attributed to a sort of maverick branch of the castor and bolsheviks but you believe that the order can be traced directly to len it well lennon was very careful to always cover his tracks and he he never ever took responsibility for anything as controversial as the murder of the wrongness but he said categorically we must not have a living banner we must not have anyone surviving from the family around whom the counter-revolution could could gather and gain a you know gain gain power so the decision was made in moscow during meetings with dollar short in a man from the book soviet who went back and forth quite a few times to moscow now got a shock and was very good friends with the arc of spirit loft who was learning his right hand man said last i had worked as opposed to tapes for a new country but he knew the city he knew the bolsheviks there and i think

fundamentally a tacit agreement was given by learned in that when the time came and the judgment of when that time came was left to the culture and bobos mates when they knew that the game was up and the city was going to fall to go and kill more telegraph report thanks very much thank you. that our killing. a was a call of course and that's never a. no

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be a. little. history says in the morning in the russian capital this is all seeing the headlines. and scientists going to begin to get that question in the conventional medical team that they have the virus triggers a head of a major international conference to take place in the city of nations says to disease that has killed around twenty five minute he holds as it was discovered it's three decades ago. as europe's welch's in a heat wave also has had its call to stay on the wreck or to pay two hundred fifty five degrees centigrade or ninety five hard tight the russian city of the demerger has introduced a siesta tellabs i responded from the scorching sun with temperatures full cost to get even in the weeks ahead.