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agency where severe trout has left farmers without solving. a very warm welcome to you this is the live from moscow i am alice had it a scientific clash over the cause and treatment of a design unfolding as a major conference on the disease takes place in vienna a group of over two thousand doctors claim the official theory that the hiv virus leads to aids is wrong they also say their views of being ignored by mainstream backed by big pharmaceuticals will watch as more from a little. they're questioning the validity of the common assumptions that are often associated with hiv and aids and they also question the traditional means of treatment with the with the aids with the drugs treatment not some of the more
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specific questions that they've raised in the last couple of days prior to the official conference and they've been holding their own talks things like the accuracy of the hate hiv test a person's defined as having a if they develop one of the twenty nine a finding diseases those are things such as pneumonia and. and as well as that test positive for hiv so a positive or negative hiv test community if it's between so on being diagnosed with pneumonia or being diagnosed with aids if they're calling into question the reliability of this very important test another thing they've been talking about is about the safety and effectiveness of the aids drug treatment now for more on this we can hear from journalist jane shenton from the community resource foundation of the state us about conventional treatment has actually caused the death of a whole generation of young gay men in america when they were on the high doses of
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aids that t. that is well documented not one single young man or woman and there were a few women who took the high doses of aids their d has survived many many others have survived who haven't taken the antiviral and many have survived who have taken antivirals at times to damp down what essentially is an immune suppression for many many different reasons so it's extremely important to be challenging this hypothesis which of course is tied up with hundreds and billions of thousands of dollars of international money which have led to absolutely no result the people that are here at this conference today and over the next week they're extremely reluctant to even enter into a discussion about these alternative views. we've been trying to talk to some of the people that are here but they're really focused on the agenda of this conference and they say this conference is about drawing together the best of the medical minds in the global community and really focusing on ways in which provide
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universal access to hiv prevention which is what they all here he said but not even really willing to enter into a discussion. would you stay with us for more on this story as i'll be joined by two experts from vienna and later in the program. eleven people have been killed and fourteen injured after a bus plunged off a cliff in a mountainous area in the republic of cell thirty year loss was on its way to russia's southern city of logic of cannes the crash happened on the trans caucasian highway connecting russia's republic of chechnya self-assertive. the russian emergencies ministry says it's not clear at this stage what caused the crash. this week russian security services have broken all prospective terrorists that are in the southern republic of dagestan and the homes of six arrested women one of them just fifteen years old they found suicide belts disguises and wills two men were
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also detained one of whom is linked to the deadly moscow metro in march cup of nuts out of our reports. so young but deemed old enough one of the alleged terrorist teams in the russian republic of the stand is just fifteen years old that according to officials did not stop her from taking part in planning terrorist attacks she and the other woman were allegedly trained by their husbands. my late husband left the guns here i've held a gun i know how to fire one but i've never done it i know how to use a grenade to. us i'm fifteen years old and you go against in the house i even help them played around with them and then put them back they all say their handling of the weapons was just curiosity but the wills suicide belts and elements of disguise found in their homes seem to tell but different story the childish handwriting and
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hearts make it hard to believe these women were capable of the deadly deeds their cues of many psychologists worldwide however believe it is easier to set women on such a destructive course because they are more vulnerable to. terrorists disgraced these women raped them deprive them of a better future in the muslim society of the caucasus their psychologically shattered and our lives with nor their choice but to become cannon fodder one of the men detained in the same raid is accused of something even more tangible than planning future attacks bring to moscow the two female suicide bombers who in march two thousand and ten set off explosions in the metro the two blasts within twenty minutes of each other took place during morning rush hour forty people. nearly two hundred more were injured russia's anti terrorist committee is still searching for others involved in the deadly attacks but these latest arrests officials say they are one step closer to finding not only the executers but the mastermind behind the
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entire operation all the people detained in the russian republic the sons continue to maintain their innocence but the terrorist committee believes it has more than enough evidence to make its case catherine as are our team lost. and just a few days later three ethnic chechens were arrested in france and chong conspiring with terrorists moscow says they belong to the group led by infamous militant leader doco model well the arrest took place thought the french police have been tipped off by russian security services the suspects already have firearms explosives on them out of moscow with mall locations of possible targets believed to be linked to doc model one of the most wanted militant leaders with suspected connections with al qaeda a model for claimed responsibility for going to rise a deadly moscow metro blosser march is also playing for many other attacks across russia in june the u.s. also put him on a wanted list of international terrorists. on a rainy
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a nuclear scientists who claims he was kidnapped by the cia a year ago returned home on thursday. says he was tortured to give up information about iran's nuclear program he also claims he was asked to confess to being an intelligence agent so the u.s. could swap him for three american nationals held in iran on charges of espionage washington denies this with the american media meanwhile reported that a nearly had been a u.s. spy he is before his disappearance last year christine france now looks into the case. the looming question in this case how did the iranian scientists sure rama. miri get to the united states one person has already answered that question amir himself but his answers are completely contradict one another in this video a man who says he and miri says he's in tucson arizona and was kidnapped by agents
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from the cia and saudi arabian intelligence agency he claims he was tortured a few hours later though this video is released a man who looks the same and also says he is sure amiri claims he is here to further his education the u.s. state department seems to agree with that statement he is here of his own volition that he has chosen to return to iran of his own volition that is how we do things here in the united states we didn't we didn't seize him and bring him here that we're not preventing him from returning to iraq this building is a pakistani embassies office representing iranian interests the old iranian embassy in washington sits empty because there's no longer a diplomatic relationship between the united states and iran according to reports coming out of iran for amiri right here monday night he told those inside he was
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quote brought here by his captors and demanded an immediate return to iran. i was told that if i would confess they could swap me for three american spies who had been detained at the iran iraq border they said that this was a common process between countries intelligence agencies and that i wouldn't have any problems. as media outlets waited outside for a glimpse of something those at the state department press briefing bickered about what this all means other than knowledge that he has put videos up only on you tube from time to time i actually have no knowledge about what he's been doing since he's been here in the states proof here of chaos in a case of the man shrouded in mystery with potentially far reaching implications for relations between the united states and iran and an outcome that is still unknown in washington christine for sound r t. now with r.t. still to come in the program the indian government apologizes for the deadly gas
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leak to visit them on the u.s. blame for the designs for over twenty five years ago is brought to justice. nuclear race sixty five years since the first successful atomic tests looks back at the history of nuclear bomb development on both sides of the atlantic. a state of emergency has been declared in central russia where a severe drought is ravaging crops the devastating drawing spell is turning normally rich farmland into little more than a desert our correspondent sean thomas went to the republic of just one of the many regions suffering. a natural disaster is taking place in central russia painstakingly slow in the making but impossible to stop unseasonably high temperatures and extended periods without rain are leaving farmers without the possibility of a harvest. you see because of the unprecedented drought the crops are not laden
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they are empty the plants are underdeveloped they are good neither for grain nor for livestock feed we have harvested almost everything by now and it only covers about half of what we need. it is one of sixteen regions along the volga and urals that have declared a state of emergency an area more than twice the size of switzerland which faces losing a billion dollars this year this field of summer wheat should be about chest high on me in a rich lush green color but in fact right now it's dead withered and yellow and the ground itself is dusty and pretty much worthless at this point now it's true that the drought has affected crops but it's also affecting the people who live here negatively. we have a problem no water yes a problem dripping at the base. no no no water it's drawing the wells and many of the villages have run dry forcing those who live here to make long tracks to
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a nearly dry river bed for water such conditions have locals concerned about their survival this is the size of the potato we have nothing. no food for people means even less food for animals causing farmers to take drastic measures just to make ends meet. we are already thinking about reducing our cattle stock we are selling this year's calves to individuals we are also thinking about sending under-performing cows those who you know less than five to ten liters of milk to the slaughterhouse the situation however is further complicated by the fact that meat prices have dropped already leaving many to hope for government intervention and financial support so they can get by. sean thomas. almost as in the midst of the horses july week for almost fifty years on saturday the mercury hit thirty five degrees centigrade which is ninety five degrees fahrenheit and this is doing temperatures
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a full cost to saw even further one consequence of this record breaking some is an increase in the number of people drowning across russia the majority of victims seeking relief from the heat index and rivers and firefighters have also been kept busy battling always a thousand wildfires a nation winds. and wherever you are in the world you tell us where you think is the best way to deal with storing it temperatures by logging on to r.t. dot com and letting us know via our online very well so far the majority of all of you is that the forty six percent say they're walking around the bell on the way to beat the heat there's a smaller number of us who prefer to stick their head in the fridge a sensible sixteen percent stock up on ice cubes for drinks in the minority doubts just the air conditioner what's your method voters are to call them in the top stories section.
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returning to our top story this hour about the scientific differences over the treatment and causes of aids is being debated on the sidelines of a major conference in vienna i will to discuss that more and i'll join life from the end of my own and the best scene from the global hiv vaccine enterprise and a doctor who questions the official hiv aids a theory and i welcome to you both many thanks for joining us first if i could speak to you tell us a son why are you challenging the mainstream views on a hiv with the majority of doctors signed up to them. it started earlier when i had my first patients in the middle of the eighties i found out. results from the blood thirsty
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didn't fit for me into a. viral cause so i looked for it over a long period in the eighty's i had the biggest practice in germany was aids patients so i do a good overview of a patients and also over my treatment and several years later i found out that i couldn't find anywhere in the word the. isolation of the virus so the question what what does it mean. well mr percy if i could just turn to you now what do you make of what dr sanjay gupta said that you were only empirical experience is to have treatment of patients during the one nine hundred eighty s. she didn't find the established treatments was satisfactory and while working.
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well unfortunately i couldn't hear the i read or understand me so i can't comment directly on what you just said what i can say in general is the ninety nine point nine nine percent of the scientific literature says without question aids is caused by a virus human immunodeficiency virus that's number one and number two current drugs not necessarily the drugs from thirty years ago but the current antiretroviral drugs are very successful containing this disease they are not a cure. they are not a cure was a huge that on mind but there's no question the people who would have died are now being kept alive for decades because of these drugs but mr best. is not the first person that we've spoken to today he's attending this conference and the other he says it through their own experience through their own treatment of patients during the eighty's in the ninety's they call into question the accepted
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wisdom that hiv is the cause of a's and they also call into question the established methods of treating it is a sign it's all about all skin questions and do you think that there are also questions that need to be almost about that. absolutely and i'm not. i'm not questioning her right to ask those questions but let's remember one thing. thousands and thousands of lives are at stake. because of what's going on here and hundreds of thousands of south africans for example lost their lives because they didn't have access to antiretroviral drugs so this is not an academic discussion this is a very important discussion where we all need to be guided by the evidence published evidence peer reviewed evidence in the scientific journals journals and without question i'll repeat what i said before without question the vast amounts of the
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scientific literature says what i said before that this disease is caused by a virus hiv and antiretroviral drugs are not a cure but they are very very effective treatment remarkable success story of science i should say that in a short period of time twenty seven years we've gone from having a harley a new virus on the planet hiv to over thirty drugs that can be used successfully to treat this disease ok let me turn now back to julie and i'm not sure if you could hair are all the guests but we had a very emphatic response there from mr besting that the current conventional treatment does seem to be working then that's been proved by numerous. amounts of research that's been conducted so and on that has also been proved this aids really is approved by the virus h l e v s and that also aids is now more of a chronic disease than
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a fatal one finds tool this research in the established conventional means of of treating aids so what do you say to that. yes i am sorry i wasn't talking to you dr saka ok ok. i didn't understand the full question. was it dr sack we just heard there from our the guest mr bernstein saying that it really has been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the current accepted wisdom and that's the virus is the cause of days in that current crisis is all working in choosing aids in making it a chronic disease rather than a fatal one. or the other doesn't know let's just hear from doctors are completely if we can. ok till now i couldn't nobody could give me the paper. is isolated in the way
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scientists. are asking for it since the seventy years since the seventy's the other thing is that there doesn't exist any paper that shows if a chevy is existing how it is doing a it and the special situation is there aids is a fully different thing in the western countries so-called western countries and the so-called developing countries in africa. south america and so on so it is it doesn't fit in a normal virus. because viruses only can make very few things they are not so intelligent to do so many things it doesn't fit in a viral cars. i k. let's talk about some of the best thing that what's your reaction to. well a couple of points. one is the first point that been raised is the virus has never
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been isolated well that's simply not true the virus has been isolated it's been molecularly cloned using d.n.a. cloning technologies it's been sequenced literally thousands of times from different individuals infected with the virus so it's simply isn't true to say it's never been isolated secondly. no one knows how the virus causes them you know deficiency is also not true we know very well the works now h.l.v. works by selectively infecting certain cells in our immune system they're called cd for positive t. cells these are critical cells they're called helper cells because they help our body make antibodies against an infection of invading viruses and other pathogens and what hiv does its soul actively kills those cd for positive t. cells and that's why when someone's infected with h r v their c d four count drops
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the number of c four positive cells in the blood drop so you'll hear that expression frequently in the field what at what point should we start treatment with drugs given the cd four counts and so we know exactly how each of you because it's immunodeficiency the third comment she made was that it manifests itself very differently in different parts of the world well again we understand that because no one really dies per se of h i v what they die from are the opportunistic infections by other pathogens because their immune system has been so severely compromised and so not surprisingly there are different pathogens in sub-saharan africa then there are in eastern europe or in. around or in austria or in one or north america ok i'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there many thanks to both of our guests you joined us for that discussion that was alan bernstein from
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the global hiv vaccine enterprise and julian sacca a doctor who questions the official hiv aids there are many thanks to you both are awaiting us. you're well my answer. now in nineteen eighty-four gas leaking from a pesticide a factory in the indian city of bhopal caused a chemical disaster that killed thousands even today the toxic consequences are being felt bindiya in the government has now admitted it was wrong to secretly dump a toxic waste but all of these currents saying found out that we want to hear from the american company that owned the plant. b.p. john lives opposite the old union carbide plant granddaughter like many other children in the neighborhood was born with birth defects she may look for years all but she's actually seven. she was born this way she can talk and walk properly and she's seven years old we've tried to treat her and have taken her to
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all the hospitals we can but she isn't getting better. american based company. owns union carbide refuses to clean up the factory premises where dozens of toxic waste are still slowly going terminating the city's soil and water a study last year found the poison has seeped into nearby homes we found very very high levels of toxins we found high levels of mercury we found high levels of pesticides which the company had manufactured lying still in the sludge more we foundered three kilometers down stream and we checked the groundwater we found in it now clearly this is unacceptable and there is no way that dow chemical stricken argued that it is not just. danceable for this the indian government has agreed to pay more compensation to victims of the gas tragedy but the protests show no sign of letting up activists want the government to bring former union carbide boss was
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an anderson to justice attempts by indian governments to extradite him from the us have so far failed. the job is ninety years old but like many of the half a million people affected by the gas leak she suffers from cancer and finds it difficult to breed she wants to see anderson brought to justice. no one listens to saturday. if the government is incompetent we demand that there's responsible approach to justice and we receive adequate compensation. indians have reacted with fury to president barack obama's tough stance against b.p. they accuse the us of hypocrisy saying it been laces firms like b.p. polluting its environment but ignores mistakes by its companies abroad the media where we really are where thousands have died and have continued to suffer because of. the american government can be as callous as to say we are very happy with this
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decision and we are glad that the matter is now over the after effects of the world's worst industrial disaster are still taking their toll it's community have daily reminders of the tragedy that happened here twenty five years ago but with no one willing to take responsibility it's a fight for accountability and justice the survivors won't give up on god and seeing our tea pot. well update you on the news on the week's top stories right away.
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that are killing innocents here a was a base of course and that's never answered. mom a song from the skull spoke to me i think of it every day. i feel the slightest
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and now i must say this is o.c. skeptics that challenge traditional theories behind aides of thousands of scientists and politicians to discuss how to prevent the spread of the disease. russian security services that broke up with inspectors a terrorist cell in the southern republic of douglas stone this week that included a money linked to the deadly month. this year. on a rainy need to find tissue claims he was kidnapped and held by the cia and us for more than a year were tons but there's still an air of mystery pools in america that say he was spying for washington. and his russian remains in the sweltering grip of a heat wave summer regions.

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