human rights activist jorge ramos who insists immigrants can benefit america. it is a controversial issue and an emotional one what to do about the immigration system in the united states all sides of this debate and there are many sides agree on one thing the system is broken but how to fix it and one to fix it has become the subject of a great debate i'm joined now by jorge ramos mr ramos has been the face of univision for twenty years serving as their anchor for their nightly news broadcasts has also authored some books including this one a country for all an immigrant manifesto mr ramos i want to thank you so much for joining me today you and countless others came out to rally support for and vote for now president obama he promised. several times that he would make sure the comprehensive immigration reform would pass within the first year of his presidency

and it hasn't it's been more than a year but you can see that president obama has gotten a lot of other things done but he also promised why is it that so many hispanics are so angry that this was not the first thing that the president got too many latinos voted for president barack obama because he promised immigration reform nobody forced prosser more of almost say you nothing but he did he promise that during his first year in office he was going to have an immigration bill that he could strongly support and it's been eighteen months and we have seen absolutely nothing and we need. to stop the protégé show so if students he could have stopped to protect himself from the parents of us students is he could have called for a bipartisan summit of the white house he could have even presented he immigration proposal if you saw an immigration bill in john mccain during the during the campaign he also promised me that he was going to support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and that he even he described undocumented immigrants as god's children so what's going on right now when when

john mccain when he's fighting a very tough prime. mary are they not god's children anymore i mean why you think he's supporting immigration reform right now so we have the blame is being shared by both republicans and democrats well since we're talking about the state of arizona let's talk about s.b. seven ten seventy this is a bill back in april that was signed by arizona governor jan brewer and it gives authorities not only the credence or the ability to but requires them to detain anyone that they suspect of being here here illegally but there are several people who support this bill and many would argue many times the many americans would many would even say the majority of americans support this bill they want to see more bills like this around the rest of the country what do you have to say to those americans the realities that you make grants pay taxes they create jobs and they don't take jobs away from americans they are simply taking the jobs that americans don't want to do i haven't seen millions of americans going to the farm fields in

california texas or florida picking up tomatoes or we're up holes so immigrants create jobs they bring crime down the department of justice just released a report recently stating that crime has been going down in the last decade despite the fact that the immigrant population has doubled so violent crimes have been going down thirty five percent twenty five percent so there's a lot of misinformation but if we realize that it's a great business to have immigrants in this country hopefully people just my church change their minds but they're almost one of your main arguments in your book is that immigrants are needed because there's going to be such a large population of people that are retiring these are the baby boomers and that immigrants will be needed when there's a labor shortage you say this in your book but the term labor shortage is very hard to swallow for most americans right now many of whom are out of work it just doesn't seem feasible that there's going to be a labor shortage anytime soon it's very simple if you bring them out of the shadows they'll be able to pay more taxes they'll be more productive they'll create new

businesses and they'll be able to employ more people so. again there's a lot of misinformation on the contributions of immigrants to this country and unfortunately when there's an economic crisis like the one we're facing right now immigrants are being blamed for for everything that's wrong with this laundry from crime to unemployment and it's simply not for but if you take the civil rights movement there was martin luther king jr when you take the labor movement farmworkers there was a cesar chavez there is not one leader in this movement and how do you mobilize and how do you get something to happen change to happen if there's not one person for people to rally behind what's so interesting is that we don't need one cesar chavez we need a fall from césar chávez. and it is true latinos are on the represented politically we are fifteen percent of the population and we only have one senator that has to change this is it is incredible that the most powerful country in the world is

persecuting and discriminating against eleven million people i just came back from south africa and he was amazing to see how in sixteen years they progress so much in getting rid of fighting discrimination it's fantastic what they're doing in south africa but when i come back to america and realize that you know the sauna and they're going to the opposite way it's really shocking i'm not saying that people in the my degree of people you know so i don't want to create an upper thigh system but what i'm seeing in our resort are right now in many other parts of the country you shamefully close to. those terrible days you are an emmy award winning journalist that includes twenty years as an anchor for you know vision you have interviewed people from fidel castro to bill clinton to current president barack obama i'm curious how you reconcile the fact that you are a journalist and yet you are so outspoken about one of the greatest issues of our time it's a great question an interesting one when i'm doing my newscast every night when i'm

doing my political show with sunday mornings i am not supposed to i have never given my opinion i mean they didn't hire me to give my opinion on the other hand i mean i am an immigrant i am an immigrant with the privilege of being on the air all the time i am an immigrant with a voice in. in some times i do feel the need to speak for those who don't have a voice for those who are invisible in this country you wrote that hunger is stronger than fear and this is what drives so many immigrants to cross the border illegally knowing all the things that could happen to them but why is it that america has to be the place of respite for everyone that's hungry how much responsibility should for example mexico take for the thousands of people who are leaving their own native country what should they do both now and after some sort of immigration reform passes to make sure that this stops you're absolutely right mexico has to do more much better they have to create a million jobs every single year and they're barely creating about one hundred

thousand jobs every single year so what happens with the nine hundred thousand young strong mexican synergetic creative who want to work they come to the united states of the end it's an economic problem if you have a mexican making five dollars a day in mexico in they know that they can make exactly the same amount of money in the united states in half an hour they're going to keep on coming what do you have to say to all those people who say you know i'm willing to work on immigration reform but i need to know first that the borders are going to be secure i perfectly understand the united states has the right to protect its borders i'm not against that i mean every single country has that right but do we also have to understand that a fence simply doesn't work almost half of all on documented immigrants who come to the united states come by plane so it doesn't matter how high the fences they're going to keep on coming they simply come to this country they overstay their visas and nothing happens so it doesn't there are i mean i'm from san diego there are people who cross over every day there's a little tiny barbed wire fence that's knocked down and you just walk across i mean

you can't say that you know you should just not have any fence at all you know what i mean what i'm saying is that there has to be a system that works when there are workers coming to this country and they are needed again what do you have for breakfast this morning and what do we have for lunch. was harvested by immigrants most probably the apartment or the house where you live and where i live was built by undocumented immigrants so there isa need for immigrants for the in this country in the usa you understand the border the border has to be secure i understand that but it's never going to be completely one hundred percent secure it is impossible to use impossible when you have the most powerful country in the world. been able to a very poor country like mexico recently president obama did fulfill one of his promises that he made on the campaign trail he was able to get health care passed in order to do so he and many others in his party had to give up one aspect of the

health care bill that they really probably want which is the public option what are you willing to compromise in terms of your goals that you want to see for immigration what are you willing to compromise and say ok i'll put that aside for this to pass there will be no immigration reform on unless the eleven million immigrants who are here are being taken to taking care of that's the essential part the rest could be negotiated but what if these immigrants who haven't come here yet see a system where undocumented immigrants who are here get citizenship isn't that going to make it more likely for the for them to come again if they make ten times as much as they can make in latin america they're going to keep on coming so we have to have a system that works a system that on their stance that they're going to keep on coming that on their stance that we need them for certain jobs here in the united states but where do we draw the line do we just invite everybody no no no i think the united states again has the right to put a limit to how many immigrants they want to come but right now that after that

limit as you say more will still come because we need i mean we need more immigrants into this country the biggest things that i've noticed is no one really can spell out in plain english nuts and bolts three or four things that they want for immigration so i'm asking you you've written books about it what very plainly do you want and what would work is very simple we need three things we need to legalize. eleven million undocumented immigrants who are here number one number two there has to be a system that assimilate then we need grants coming in from the south and coming in from other countries and number three. in the long term solution has to be done with with a lot of investment in latin america because otherwise they're going to keep on coming for decades getting back to a little earlier we were talking about some of the anger and frustration with president obama for not having passed this. one if he doesn't pass it by the time the next election comes then there is going to be

a backlash with voters i think you know what if he's running against sarah palin i mean she's not going to do and i think it's a possibility but if president barack obama and democrats keep loosing. he's spending voters there and that he's spending bodies' going to be up for grabs so do hispanics just not show up at the polls do they just choose inaction you know i think they're going to be voting something interesting when ronald reagan used to say that latinos are really republicans he's just that they don't know what what happens is that latinos many latinos are very conservative they are against abortion they are suspicious of big government so in that sense yes he's spending by this are very similar to republican values and we have to remember that door through which got forty four percent of the hispanic vote jorge ramos journalist and author thank you so much for speaking with us thank you.

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scientists are debating ways to shore universal treatment but patients say they should focus on finding a cure instead. of beating traditions india school this of one is under fire after a teenager suicide reveals corporal punishment is still popular among teachers though the government outlawed such methods in two thousand some insist it is the only way students learn. and remote control war fear as a drone industry booms piece campaigners fear a surge in cattle these and terrorism they claim the relatively cheap and easy access to weapons make them more widely and in the wrong hands. so they have lines here in our tell me back at the top of the hour in the meantime we'll bring you the sports update with. hello there welcome to the sport and these are the headlines surprise when

a south african coast a victory at the open to claim its first major. plus menchov shines on the slopes of the pyrenees is the russian bid for tour de france glory. and we've more sweltering action from the russian premier league where its goals go off a lot from o.t. and angie. thirst the surprise winner of golf's open and says his first major title was all about staying calm it was a comfortable seven straight victory for the south african it's untanned rich with england's lee westwood finishing runner up and world number one tiger woods coming home tied in twenty eighth place at the start of the day the four shot lead over paul casey with henrik stenson and lee westwood also close behind but they failed to make an impact firstly westwood couldn't find the form needed to call his way back to the top of the leaderboard he finished on one and the for the dame is out of contention casey. did have a hope a glimmer of hope and stayed with him for sort of the south african and drove his

tee shot in the course of the twelfth there and picking up the treble bogey seven to see his challenge him eventually finishing joint. and henrik stenson meanwhile you susan is obviously enjoying the conditions for this opening don't made the cut once and a previous may just did drop a shot in the penultimate hole but strolled at the last rock recent polls and made particularly his first major. i must say when you come into a major aadhaar don't think about the previous majors i think about the previous of him to upload and not played well when i was doing it well in france but. was true pick up play nicely in. just didn't really and you know it is always says something a lot like some interest a lot when you condition. you know you it's just a matter of making profits and after all really confident all week i'm spatially off to my first round with elsewhere russian cyclist denis menchov has increased his chances of a podium finish in the tour de france after

a great ride in the pyrenees yesterday stage was a mountain top finishing was won convincingly by francis christophe we've gone but a bit further back dennis menchov took his chance again some time when his main rival in the general classification attacking his yellow jersey holder andy schleck bike has a match of defending champion alberta contador here on the final climb and that's where the russian game fifteen seconds in those two overall you see finish second alongside sun sun chips. and this is the i will that affect the general classification number three more days in the tour needs to come but only by thirty seconds from contador and any sanchez who's closely followed by man child and then there's a gap a bit of a gap that's evander broke and gets nicked. the football will lock my teeth have moved up to fit spot in the russian premier league after a three nil win over a lan yeah a goal from yet and a couple from storage sites have sealed the win for the muscovites in the meantime territory which expired at last go for non-sport following

a one nil wind at home to. a sold out of on target three minutes before the break while the surprise of the day came from newcomers and you can stump for one away. i've got a lot of head up put angie in front of a team minutes in to this match. and one there was how it stood going into me and good but how the bike people say but i think it's hard being inside the stadium left is lined up to play the ball and then found david so i had an attempt to make up for his mistake you know a card in the penalty followed because you make one mistake on the spot first off injury time and another defensive player so all the way side make it three nil midway through the second half early jaggi. q to finish off any cross i ask you this boy do you buy the whole one of the powerful free kick three minutes later but i find in the talking fourteen minutes from time to see the final result

for one. i bought an artist the moscow are not actually second with. him and they take on bottom side. on ice hockey. to lay their hands on the coveted guarin cup after their veteran forward election yashin signed a one year extension to his contract with the northern side the thirty six year old is a former world champion and double olympic medalist for russia jointed and joint scar last season but failed to help them get any further than the last sixteen however scott hope to do better than that next season and the ball rolled the swedish one hundred and turning mortensen as well as the experienced russian goalkeeper yet again called the new season faces off on the eighth of september. a formula one

exhibition event has been held in moscow starring no less than russia's first f one driver the tally petrol and the defending world champion jenson button in the fun race around the kremlin and it's hoped the city could one day the real thing is constant but top off now reports. i. flew through. into real racing training in the crew most trembled do you really want to curse where. it was this. picture and to hear. the indeed very center of the cape to inspire each of the trip to shoot this here reigning world champion jenson button who joined the ranks of famous in form drivers who have come to moscow the russians. pleased to see him i've always been excited about coming to moscow and i think you know i'm very lucky to have this opportunity and i feel very privileged to have this opportunity to drive a former along around the kremlin and i mean not many people get that opportunity

so i'm very much looking forward to today this is not a day of work for me this is a day of enjoyment there were other stars too including the first ever russian driver to compete in formula one true off for the local crowd he was the main story of this exhibition race the twenty five year old driver hopes that very soon he will be able to drive his racing car on a home track fossil force i want to have a passion for and print here this is a way maybe i can help something that will bring the morning here first class country but i don't know with people when it will be my hopes and i want to be. on one of the thing that i wouldn't believe it's something all i swore on the formula one of course but there were plenty more races on four wheels into driving round the kremlin to entertain enemies equal. drivers sure there drifting ski was causing quite a spectacle. in volume assuring him in his commercial all set to four in the first

two. said it's a very exciting event even though these cars are not for driving on the roads they're supposed to be driven in. the true born to enter t.v. audience to show the power and potential of our cars the success of such events is good year to year and want to sport fans across the country hoping grand prix will soon be hosted in russia one of the nicest said the project to build a train by two thousand and twelve isn't the point why the plan would be to produce the fastest city track on the f one circuit continue but out of or a cheap. and other major sport news danny betrays one the german prey but the honda rider. to enjoy a restart the motor keeping race following a three bike crash involving randy to alex spargo and of data but the race wasn't used to twenty one laps as a result patro took full advantage edging out fellow spaniel renzo which started on

hold for enzo finishing every three seconds behind the winner to seize three race winning streak come to an end like a stone i think the podium that he had been defending lead to the champion valentino rossi he's intends to tally movie plays with for it what is it was his first race it's right six weeks ago the dros was happy with his victory of the season. and the first race i was i was riding good in. we were going away from the group in when they when they start the race and the feeling is. all and then when we do start the race for us most of all the same you know because i start first and then here is big and by the end i feel i'm spinning a lot but i can still go all fast so decor and try to do they do it fast then finally i get a good result here so it's amazing. to tell us now on the runner up at the french

open robin so doing seemed on the verge of tears as he fell short of another clay court title the world number five was beaten by nicolas almagro in the final of his home torn. tops and down the defending champion the spaniard the three secs the clincher the match seven five three six six two. crumbled in the decider and a mild amount i shouted for joy that the sixth time. the seventeenth. well done to him finally a yachting event has been held just outside moscow to mark the fiftieth anniversary of the country's first ever limping gold in the discipline to north korean again was the man behind the soviet union success in the star class competition the rain . back in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight now eighty three he's still active in the sport having a foundation aimed at reviving yachting in russia r.t. caught up with the man and his tell friend and rival he spoke about the l a times and the sports feature. remember very wary of the crew the i remember

to me. when he won the race. he won the race because he was very ready to take me for. all the new. revenue we put the show on the shifter said use it only called bus they were in the compass a movement that there was a shift doing. it so we gain a day believe in the race for six weeks or so well now days your two clubs are brimming with life but it's not so much about sports but mostly about tree creation the romal to boats and water skiing but this is just a way to spend your free time well two sports told woods a few and far between and the russian guy has become a world champion i haven't seen any good results recently as far as olympics are concerned. now brings us the end of the sport for the moment no respect is that when i see what the weather is doing here at r.t.

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