well he ramos who insists immigrants can benefit america. it is a controversial issue and an emotional one what to do about the immigration system in the united states all sides of this debate and there are many sides agree on one thing the system is broken but how to fix it and one to fix it has become the subject of a great debate i'm joined now by jorge ramos mr ramos has been the face of univision for twenty years serving as their anchor for their nightly news broadcasts has also authored some books including this one a country for all an immigrant manifesto mr ramos i want to thank you so much for joining me today you and countless others came out to rally support for and vote for now president obama he promised. several times that he would make sure that comprehensive immigration reform would pass within the first year of his

presidency and it hasn't it's been more than a year but you can see that president obama has gotten a lot of other things done but he also promised why is it that so many hispanics are so angry that this was not the first thing that the president got too many latinos voted for president barack obama because he promised immigration reform nobody forced preserve barack obama so you're nothing but he did he promise that during his first year in office he was going to have an immigration bill that he could strongly support and it's been a few months and we have seen absolutely nothing and we need to stop the protégé show so if students he could have stopped the protests from cellphone in the parlance of us students that he could have called for a bipartisan summit of the white house he could have even presented he stone immigration proposal if you saw an immigration bill in john mccain during the during the campaign he also promised me that he was going to support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and that he even he described undocumented immigrants as god's children so what's going on right now where when

john mccain when he's fighting a very tough prime. are they not god's children anymore i mean why you seem he's supporting immigration reform right now so we have the blame is being shared by both republicans and democrats while since we're talking about the state of arizona let's talk about s.b. seven ten seventy this is a bill back in april that was signed by arizona governor jan brewer and it gives authorities not only the credence or the ability to but requires them to detain anyone that they suspect of being here here illegally but there are several people who support this bill and many would argue americans you know many americans would and many would even say the majority of americans support this bill they want to see more bills like this around the rest of the country what do you have to say to those americans the realities that immigrants pay taxes they create jobs and they don't take jobs away from americans they are simply taking the jobs that americans don't want to do i haven't seen millions of americans going to go farm fields in california texas or florida picking up tomatoes or or upwards so immigrants create

jobs they bring crime down the department of justice just release a report recently stating that crime has been going down in the last decade despite the fact that the immigrant population has doubled so violent crimes have been going down thirty five percent twenty five percent so there's a lot of misinformation but if we realize that it's a great business to have immigrants in this country hopefully people just my church change their minds those are almost one of your main arguments in your book is that immigrants are needed because there's going to be such a large population of people that are retiring these are the baby boomers and that immigrants will be needed when there's a labor shortage you say this in your book but the term labor shortage is very hard to swallow for most americans right now many of whom are out of work it just doesn't seem feasible that there's going to be a labor shortage anytime soon it's very simple if you bring them out of the shadows they'll be able to pay more taxes they'll be more productive they'll create new

businesses and they'll be able to employ more people so. again there's a lot of misinformation on the contributions of immigrants to this country and unfortunately when there is an economic crisis like the one we're facing right now immigrants are being blamed for for everything that's wrong with responders from crime to unemployment and it's simply not for that if you take the civil rights movement there was martin luther king jr when you take the labor movement farmworkers there was a cesar chavez there is not one leader in this movement and how do you mobilize and how do you get something to happen change to happen if there's not one person for people to rally behind what's so interesting is that we don't need one césar chávez we need a fall since research obvious. and it is true latinos are on the represented politically we are fifteen percent of the population and we only have one senator that has to change this is it is incredible that the most powerful country in the world is persecuting and discriminating against eleven million people i just came

back from south africa and he was amazing to see how in sixteen years they progress so much in getting rid of fighting discrimination it's fantastic what they're doing in south africa but when i come back to america and realize that. they're going to exactly the opposite way it's really shocking i'm not saying that people that the majority of people you know sort of want to create an up or fight system but what i'm seeing in arizona right now in many other parts of the country you shamefully close to. those terrible days you are an emmy award winning journalist that includes twenty years as an anchor for you know vision you have interviewed people from fidel castro to bill clinton to your current president barack obama i'm curious how you reconcile the fact that you are a journalist and yet you are so outspoken about one of the greatest issues about our time it's a great question an interesting one when i'm doing my newscast every night when i'm doing my political show with sunday mornings i am not supposed to i have never

given my opinion i mean they didn't hire me to give my opinion on the other hand i mean i am an immigrant an immigrant with the privilege of being on the air all the time i am an immigrant with a voice in. in some times i do feel the need to speak for those who don't have a voice for those who are invisible in this country you wrote that hunger is stronger than fear and this is what drives so many immigrants to cross the border illegally knowing all the things that could happen to them but why is it that america has to be the place of respite for everyone that's hungry how much responsibility should for example mexico take for the thousands of people who are leaving their own native country what should they do both now and after some sort of immigration reform passes to make sure that this stops you're absolutely right mexico has to do more to much better they have to create a million jobs every single year and they're barely creating about one hundred

thousand jobs every single year so what happens with the nine hundred thousand young strong mexican synergetic creative who want to work they come to the united states of dnd it's an economic problem if you have a mexican making five dollars a day in mexico in they know that they can make exactly the same amount of money in the united states in half an hour we're going to keep on coming what do you have to say to all those people who say you know i'm willing to work on immigration reform but i need to know first that the borders are going to be secure i perfectly understand the united states has the right to protect its borders i'm not against that i mean every single country has that right but do we also have to understand that a fence simply doesn't work almost half of all on the commented immigrants who come to the united states come by plane so it doesn't matter how high the fences they're going to keep on coming they simply come to this country they overstay their visas and nothing happens so it doesn't there are i mean i'm from san diego there are people who cross over every day there's a little tiny barbed wire fence that's knocked down and you just walk across i mean

you can't say that you know you should just not have any fence and all i know what i mean what i'm saying these that there has to be a system that works when there are workers coming to this country and they are needed again what do you have for breakfast this morning and what do we have for lunch. was harvested by immigrants most of the apartment or the house where you live and where i live was built by a local meant to me so there isa need for immigrants for the in this country in the usa you understand the border the border has to be secure i understand that but it's never going to be completely one hundred percent secure it is impossible it's impossible when you have the most powerful country in the world. the neighbor to a very poor country like mexico recently president obama did fulfill one of his promises that he made on the campaign trail he was able to get health care passed in order to do so he and many others in his party had to give up one aspect of the health care bill that they really probably want which is the public option what are

you willing to compromise in terms of your goals that you want to see for immigration what are you willing to compromise and say ok i'll put that aside for this to pass there will be no immigration reform on unless the eleven million immigrants who are here are being again carol that's the essential part the rest could be negotiated but what if these immigrants who haven't come here yet see a system where undocumented immigrants who are here get citizenship isn't that going to make it more likely for the for them to come again if they make ten times as much as they can make in latin america they're going to keep on coming so we have to have a system that works a system that on their stance that they're going to keep on coming that on their stance that we need them for certain jobs here in the united states but where do we draw the line do we just invite everybody no no no i think the united states again has the right to put a limit to how many immigrants they want to come but right now that after that limit as you say more will still come because we need i mean we need more

immigrants into this country the biggest things that i've noticed is no one really can spell out in plain english nuts and bolts three or four things that they want for immigration so i'm asking you you've written books about it what very plainly do you want and what would work is very simple we need three things we need to legalize. eleven million undocumented immigrants who are here number one number two there has to be a system that assimilates then we need grants coming in from the salt and coming in from other countries and number three. in the long term solution has to be done with with a lot of investment in latin america because all the while they're going to keep on coming for decades getting back to a little earlier we were talking about some of the anger and frustration with president obama for not having passed this. one if he doesn't pass it by the time the next election comes then there is going to be a backlash with voters i think you know what if he's running against sarah palin i

mean she's not going to do and i think it's a possibility but if president barack obama and democrats keep losing. borders then spending bodies' going to be up for grabs so do hispanics just not show up at the polls do they just choose inaction you know i think they're going to be voting something interesting when ronald reagan used to say that latinos are really republicans he's just that they don't know what what happens is that latinos many latinos are very conservative they are against abortion they are suspicious of big government so in that sense yes he's spending values are very similar to republican values and we have to remember that george bush got forty four percent of the hispanic vote jorge ramos journalist and author thank you so much for speaking with us thank you.

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up surprise when a south african luis days and post a victory at the open to claim his first major. plus shines on the slopes of the pyrenees as the russian bids for tour de france glory. now with more sweltering action from the russian premier league where it's the old school or the locomotive and then. i'm surprised when a golf open stays and says his first major title was all about staying calm it was a comfortable seven straight victory for the south african at st andrews with england's lee westwood finishing runner up and world number one tiger woods coming home tied in twenty third place at the start of the day he stays in had a four shot lead over paul casey with henrik stenson and lee westwood also close behind but they failed to make an impact first lee westwood didn't find the form needed to claw his way to the top of the leaderboard he finished on one for the day and has added contention. with hussein did have a glimmer of hope and stayed within four shots of the south african until he drove

that shot into the course in the twelfth picking up a triple bogey eventually finishing joint third of rory mcilroy and henrik stenson meanwhile you say he's and he was obviously enjoying the conditions before that so you don't make the cut once in a previous majors he did drop a shot on the penultimate hole but strolled at the last rapturous applause i'm a car first major. i must say when you come into a major art i don't think about the previous majors i think about the previous of him to have played and not played well when i was doing it well in france but i. was true. i played nicely in loman but just didn't really and you know it is always something a lot alike some interest a lot when you can't. you know you it's just a matter of making person really confident will we come specially off them off. to him their ideas in the tour de france are facing a second day in the pyrenees and russian tennis menchov will be hoping for more of

the same after a great ride yesterday so him increase his chances of a podium finish it was a summit finish on sunday in stage fourteen which one can think seemly by france's christophe three blown but a bit further back dennis menchov took his chance to gain some time in his rivals in the general classification attacking elijah's he hold andy schleck and defending champion alberto contador in the final climb and that saw the russian game fifteen seconds on the edge to overrule a seething second along side sanral son chance. so this is how it affects the general classification with three more days in the pyrenees to come late but only by half a minute from contador and then it sanchez is closely followed by menchov. the football locker motif have moved up to fit spot in the russian premier league after a three nil win over a lanyard only seventy eight and to scarf scored more goals than look at this season the rebel man getting off the mark against a lanny with a good free kick from alexander early have to whet the appetite of human i got more

of adding another on half time before getting this job just after the break following the bring back a lock on the bench sprinkled a bit of salt into a lang is being the penalty save the academic the three know when. i read a line you before pulling off the parts of. the surprise of the day you made angie thomas four one a way of scoring first for the visitors one the always how it stood going into the interval but a howler by keep this. pretty costly for the sydney side leaving his line but failing to collect the ball he found david to study have an attempt to make up for his mistake and yellow card in a penalty followed legalize you stand scoring eight. another defense of the wayside make it premier midway through the second half early because of on cue to finish off and cross. plenty of time you can't miss from that

kennywood point did score the best goal or asking consolation for zuba. i see my stay. with this free kick. from way i watch which so it's a saudi have on hand you know in the rebound what i mean sign therapeutic spartak moscow for nine sport following a one nil win at home to am far from the sort of expert testing then heading home turned out to be the winner in the first terry we have the chances to increase their lead would be three points but then. there is more for the night to skim or sco are in action and could go second with a win over lowly could use of the spot just below the army men in the take home bottom side such. an ice hockey. have boosted their bid to lay their hands in the coveted guarin cup after their veteran forward election yashin signed a one year extension to his contract with the northern side of the thirty six year

old is a former world champion and double olympic medalist for russia joined. last season but failed to help them go any further in the last sixteen scar have boasted their squad since signing swedish matteis been handled and tony mortensen as well as experienced goalkeeper you've got a call from the new k.h. l season starts on the eighth of september. a formula one exhibition event has been held in moscow starring no less than russia's first f one driver the tally petrol and defending world champion jenson button a fun race around the kremlin and it's hoped the city could one day the real thing as constantine but top off now reports. for the third time moscow has roads were transformed into real racing track and the kremlin walls trembled as formula one of course went past with a rule it was this old must go public it turned out in droves to hear as thousands

attended the vans in the very center of the captain in spite of the trip sheet this year reigning world champion jenson button joined the ranks of famous f one drivers who have come to moscow the russian fans were pleased to see him i've always been excited about coming to moscow and i think you know i'm very lucky to have this opportunity and i feel very privileged to have this opportunity to drive a formula long around the kremlin and i mean not many people get that opportunity so i'm very much looking forward to today this is not a day of work for me this is a day of enjoyment there were other stars too including the first ever russian driver to compete in formula one. for the local crowd he was the main story of this exhibition race the twenty five year old driver hopes that very soon he will be able to drive his racing car on a full track fossil fuels i want to have a passion run pretty clear this is

a way of maybe i can help something that will bring the morning here first class country but i don't know with people when it will be my hopes and i want to be here like don't want anything but i wouldn't put all this competition all i swore on the formula one chorus but there were plenty more races on four wheels into driving round the kremlin to entertain an amazing. driver sure there drifting ski was closing quite a spectacle. in volume assuring him and his commercial all such a core in the first two. hazards that it's a very exciting event even though these cars are not for driving on the roads they're supposed to be driven in deserts by a true born to entertain. to show the power and potential cause the success of such events is be your year to school principals the country hoping you would soon be forced to do worship one of. the projects to do the trade to close each world isn't

the point where the plan would be to produce the first a city trick in the if one circuit continued battle over a cheap. now elsewhere danny patrol has one motor g.p.h. german grand prix but the hunger idea how to enjoy a restart the race following a three by crash here involving running to alex's spot i got zero and. the race was the g.'s to twenty one laps as a result and pros of took full advantage of the edging out fell a span it. started on pole renzo finishing over three seconds behind the winner to see his three race winning streak come to an end caisson stone a complete at the podium on his dick county after pipping defending moto g.p. champion valentino rossi intends to have a tally movie plays with that fourth place though it was his first race since fractured his leg six weeks ago and was happy with his first victory of the season . by the end i feel i'm being

a lot but i can still go fast so your decor hand and try to do a little bit faster and finally i get a good result here so it's amazing i am finally a yachting event has been held just outside moscow to mark the fiftieth anniversary of the country's first ever a limpid gold in the disciplined nordic game was the man behind the soviet union success in the star class competition at rome the rain games back in one nine hundred sixty now eighty three he's still active in the sport having a foundation and reviving yachting in russia r.t. caught up with the man and an old friend i'm rival. i remember very well that rudy i remember to meet been a good friend he won the race our he won the race because he was a very very technical. in the new new. revenue we put the show on the shaved they said use it only called busts and when

he the compass the movement that there was a few for doing exactly and so he gained it they believe in the race of six weeks money and i thought well now days your two clubs are brimming with life but it's not so much about sports but mostly about tree creation there are multiple boats and water skiing but this is just a way to spend your free time well to sports told with a few and far between and the russian guy has become a world champion i haven't seen any good results recently as far as olympics are concerned. and that brings us to the end of the sport for the moment more lights are hungry for the full story we've got it fast the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on.

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