with me i have talked to enough wealth a member of the israeli parliament who sits on the floor in the face and defends committees dr thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. a few weeks before the fatality came you warned the israeli defense minister a good bit about not to use military force you said at that time this has nothing to do with security and the armaments for him must not coming from the how then can israel justify its use of force well in my view the flotilla was ultimately an effort it was a p.r. effort it was clearly not a humanitarian effort to those who conducted it truly cared about the humanitarian situation in gaza they had numerous opportunities and were offered numerous opportunities to take whatever they wanted it to god through the main entrance into gaza so this was clearly about sending out a message about a p.r. kind of campaign my argument was that when we are engaged in

a campaign over idea over images the last thing we need to do is give the other side because zac what they want which is an image of conflict with israeli soldiers this is clearly what they want to be came into this effort seeking that image so clearly a provocation the finger is that when you're engaged in that kind of battle you have to be smarter than the other side and not to give them the images that they seek so you can justify the use of soldiers and if you look at a very specific effort to kind of go through that blockade in israel has a legitimate blockade that is defined by international law as well but my point was that we are here are we are fighting and a war of ideas and there is an effort even i would say a coordinated effort to isolate israel to portray it as an illegitimate state we have. to respond in kind and we have to protect ourselves by intellectual

means and when this is the arena the use of soldiers it's not the best use i'm not saying that israel didn't have the right to use them it has the right the fact that you have to write to soldiers doesn't mean that it's necessarily the smartest thing in the service of your cause what would have been the alternative to letter through . we did it in the past and it worked brilliantly because you deprived the other side of exactly what they want they want that image of confrontation you deprive them of it the story fizzles the international media is not interested since this is ultimately a p.r. campaign you kind of literally you take the wind out of their sails by lation the ships through with that not have deeded just israel's blockade on gaza on the contrary and we let ships four times who have them our path and nothing happened because ultimately it's all about the story and it's all about the

media and if the media is not interested it disappears so you're now kind of backtracking given the interest that the world has in the story of result of our failure the fact that we kind of responded to the provocation in a way that what's not wise but had we just let it go through no one in the media the story would have fizzled within a day and if we would have fizzled within a day no one would have been interested in israel's blockade a moment later why do you not think that this was as the organizers of the fatalis say an attempt to try and challenge israel's hold on gaza indeed many in the international community believe this is well oh because it's never about that because if it's not that then there's something else and because these organizations if you look if you look what happens with in turkey if you look at the suffering of other people around the world some have never show that same passion and and caring. that suffering in other places in the world as i said if

they really wanted to bring in humanitarian aid they had all the opportunities to do so this was clearly a challenge and it was a challenge the words focused it's something that is alternately ain't it israel's ability to protect itself if you're going to deal a jew demise that and someone said very beautifully you often go to meetings with senior people in europe and they say so israel has every right to defend itself it's just that whenever israel tries to defend itself it's never the right moment so that's how you slow we undermine. the idea that israel has the right to defend itself as the homeland of the jewish people and every time we just find somewhere else and if israel leaves scars cell which is remarkable again israel left gaza to the one nine hundred sixty seven borders not a single soldier in gaza not a single settlement in gaza and yet what you see you see the palestinians and especially must think oh no you haven't really left he still occupy us because the

refuse to assume responsibility hasn't for big that they should actually be responsible and build something and give up on this culture of always resisting always being against they would actually have to prove themselves and mean think of that so there's a desire to constantly say you never really left you still occupy us you still responsible and because you're still responsible we can sit back and we're not responsible so why was is also defense minister ehud barak and the rest of the defense establishment not open to this kind of thinking because if you look at the leadership of israel today it was forged through military struggle and it was forged through anti-terrorist struggle so they are still the outcome of the different arena the arena that looked at military threats terrorist threats and that guy. not very good at responding to those threats and it takes

a while to understand that the arena shifted also for israel it took a while to understand that classic wars have ended and now it's terrorism it costs a few decades to find the proper response to international domestic terrorism to build an export based economy so these mental changes are actually take time because once you create those mental structures it's very hard for you to shift. when i talk about an intellectual attack of towns fluffy sounds i mean for a man who went through the military this this is not this is not a serious attack what's an intellectual attack in your opinion how is israel fairing in this war of words do you think for example that israel gets a say hearing in the international media there's no doubt that whatever happens here it gets this proportional attention to anything that happens anywhere else.

what i do find that the main problem here is that people rush to judgment. and there there's no appreciation for the complexity of the situation for the complexity of the conflict and i think of anything we should insist on the complexity of things so that people would understand that it's not so simple to rush to judgment in the situation it's also simple to decide who's of the right and i think this would israel should really make a. should fight for a battle for now that we're right they're wrong i don't think that's the way to go but just to insist that the situation is far more complex that might appear in the first few minutes of watching a video the findings of an internal israeli military probe has been published and they found that there were problems with the operation the planning the execution but the findings did not actually put the blame on anyone what kind of value do you think a probe like this has this is in the box no one comes up and says just

a moment the whole thinking should have been different the whole thinking should have been that this is not a new arena where the military gets sent because the military doesn't know how to deal with images with ideas. so in that respect it's not helpful to the kind of shift that i think israel should make in order to truly win in this war of ideas you've written a book might as well all generation do you think that the new generation obvious way to ship such as yourself will take this kind of thinking on board yes certainly i mean my generation did my generation first generation that fought in the first intifada it was an intifada that with remarked very much by this battle of ideas and images so i think we're much more aware of that we don't really we're not aware of a history of military and wars that's kind of in the books for us this and history

so yes i. hopefully that is some of the change that could take place but i hope it takes sooner than the time that is required for my generation to get to a position of leadership in the country do you think we're now going to see fit to loftus attilla with these radii to ship dealing with it in the same way so very much the same kind of reaction the desire to send ships came from what people perceived as disgraced the success of the first one right everyone wanted to pick surveyed when babies in gaza are named aaron to go on then you know the iranian president wants that to you and someone lumped in on in libya too but once they see the media is no longer interested it fizzles it becomes pathetic then also the interest to do so becomes lower doesn't mean that they look for more dramatic ways to get attention in the international arena so in fact the fear to look could be

something small compared to what is going to come well it's i think what we also need to understand about this arena is that it's never going to be a one off victory and it people kind of told me ok we would have let it go and then what always this question of and then what and i say when we go to war when we fight terrorism when we build an economy we don't say and then what we understand that this is going to be all the time and we're going to have to overcome challenges all the time as soon as we shift our understanding we understand that this is the key arena where israel and the zionist ideas threaten today then we constantly try to outwit and outsmart the other side the other side we're going to try to do the same to us and we have to be smarter and better but it's not going to disappear until alternately twenty thirty years from now as with all our other challenges and wars the other side basically says ok. they won not well thank you very much for joining us here on our team sure thank you my pleasure.

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how to deal with the so-called epidemic others claim it's nothing more than a wife style disease this comes as delegates meet at an international aids conference in vienna aimed at providing universal care for patients. and ending wells discrimination president obama is determined to extend unemployment benefits slamming republicans for courting the rich with tax cuts as the senate prepares to vote the bill would help millions struggling to survive after the financial crisis but will cost the government billions of dollars. on the back shortly with more updates for you here in our team but let's take a look at what's happening in the world of sports with. hello and welcome to sport an artsy coming to you from the russian capital i'm wrong cause for of plenty of action in this edition but let's jump to our top

stories first. title boost league leaders and he signed one of russia's most prolific strikers alexandre bahar off to help them stay on track for their second national crown. flying high russian pilots hone their skills at home with that's ahead of next month's world aerobatics championship. while alive has been at beach for boxing champion vitaly klitschko of the dreams of more big fights while cut surfing in germany. before we get to those stories let's check in with the russian football premier league where two matches took place on monday now says come moscow have moved into second place after defeating struggling premier so that's on their territory and some are a youngster aligns our goal of broadly on the goal of the game after a penalty kick elsewhere said sort of from the moscow region moved out of the relegation zone following a surprise knock out when our fourth place parts from the chick. now those were the

latest games but now let's review what happens over the weekend on sunday looking at seed moves up that's able to fifth after it's been a win over a lot only is in needs and says scott have scored more goals than loko this season the railway men getting off the mark gets a lot here with this free kick from alexander i leave which went to the appetite of coach here is someone who got what he wanted me to research off adding another on have time before getting this goal just after the break following up the rebound loco then sprinkled a bit of souls into a line his words with a penalty save so it's real win over a line you know who are four points off the bottom. the surprise of the day so you promote it on g.b. tell. for one way to meet i got a lot of scoring first for the visitors and one nil was how it stood going to the interval butter heller by keeper say gave her a call prove costly for the siberian side leaving his ride but failing to collect the ball he found dead beats arrive in an attempt to make up for his mistake

a yellow card and penalty followed bickel are just on scoring it and other defensive blips so they always side making its way through the second half. finish off and meet cross. discord the best goal rasping consolation from out of the zero zero will almost bettered by. this free kick which is coming up in seconds . and it's also one handsome not in the rebound and make it four one. in the meantime ceric overtook spartak moscow for ninth spot following a one nil with home two am caught. expertly cheston and then heading home but turned out to be the winner in the first half eric had good chances to increase their lead but it was still a war of the three points for them. to transfer news now where league leaders in each have signed double russian champion alexander book car off that twenty five year old forward moved from holders

a routine on a four year deal after enjoying his best season so far in the last year because of scored sixteen goals in twenty three games none of them from the penalty spot however which was the second best individual performance in the russian top flight in two thousand and nine because the roof is the second prolific striker to the rubin who have been somewhat goal shy this season argentina and i one hundred dominguez also and that's a twenty three goals for been last year but deflected too but then fia in the spanish premier league seven months ago. while there's also been a conspicuous signing in england where former chelsea man joe cole put pen to paper to join liverpool also in a four year contract the twenty eight year old midfielder left the blues last month and has been since linked with the likes of arsenal and selling them but also for the reds who failed to qualify for european football this season cole is brought in to replace israel skipper. whose moves in the opposite direction. but

another hotly anticipated move may never happen as barcelona coach that gordie all that was pessimistic about lands in recent world cup winner and arsenal caps incest fabregas guardiola spoke at his first media call friend since signing a one year extension with the spanish champions last week and also explained why he didn't want to tie him self to the council on site for any longer. but i don't we don't i work much better under short term contract i need to know that things work front and we understand each other i'm talking about the place which are the ones i work with i need to know we have a good relationship and that we all want them to get even better and if everything goes fine and i feel strong enough to know steve for another year. and i saw q. rushes to call him becoming home anytime soon after the double world champion resigned with n.h.l. club the new jersey devils had been pondering his future up for over a month but decided to stay put despite speculation he could join to join scott st

petersburg in the kontinental hockey league he will be officially revealed as a new jersey player at choose the news conference the last time the twenty seven year old played for a russian side was during the n.h.l. lockout back in two thousand and five. and there's been a change at the top of its order fronts as defending champion alberto contador captured the yellow jersey for the first time that's despite finishing in the pellets and behind stage winner it's almost beckler he is the reigning french national champion and won the latest stage in the peyronie's by a minute and twenty seconds from each of these alexandra ball and i it's or perez from spain is his second stage victory in cycling showpiece after also triumphing during last year's events meanwhile holder contador catapulted himself into the lead after previous front runner and the schleck of luxemburg lost his chain losing valuable time while waiting for some roadside assistance. the surprise winner of golf's open louis oosthuizen says his first major title was down to staying calm it

was a comfortable seven stroke victory for the south african at st andrews with england's lee westwood finishing runner up and world number one tiger woods coming home side in twenty third place at the start of the day and had a four shot lead over paul casey with henrik stenson and lee westwood close behind but they failed to make an impact first. the westwood didn't find the four made it case he stayed within four shots of the south african until he drove his tee shot into the gorse at that salt eventually finishing joint third with rory mcilroy and henrik stenson meanwhile it was hasan was obviously enjoying the conditions before this open he only made the cut once in eight majors he did drop a shot on the ultimate hole but strolled up the last third watch as applause and made parts of claim his first major. i must say when you come into my age i don't think about the previous majors and think about the previous of income played and played well and i was doing it well and. was true at the pick up play nicely in

but just didn't it didn't really and you know i was always says something along and induced him luck we need conditions you know it's just a matter of making prats and i felt really confident all week i'm spatially off to my first round the russian aerobatics championships took place at the weekend now this spectacular sport doesn't attract much media attention or support from the governments are all mad dog has more. that is. the flaw it's called competition aerobatics and it didn't score each as well as steal russia's one of the leaders in the sport it can boast a number of champions but it's a sport result mass appeal one of the problem is that it's very difficult to.

attract sponsors because the t.v. . does not pay so much attention to this sport it's difficult. it's difficult to. stuff is one of the most famous biled you get the dish an arab body aches. this year's russian championships in their category and sometimes modest of gets upset about the lack of investment in his sport. unfortunately we don't get support from our government they prefer to turn towards olympic sports for example curling i do respect that sports but can really build a country's glory and i think it's far more important. these planes have seen better times and due to lack of funding the russian team is forced to fly them. pants for us ports haven't been produced for fifteen years try to make ourselves heard and restart its production but we haven't received any reaction aerobatics

championships sergeant poland next month the russian team will be old favorites and the old no good performance will be a huge step towards stake in this sport. to new heights. r g. finally w.b.c. champion vitaly klitschko has taken time off to enjoy his favorite sport which is surprisingly kitesurfing but then you create a heavyweight still couldn't say boxing off his mind and promise he'll fight a high profile opponent very soon and russia's nickel i've been one of the options the elder klitschko brother attended the kite surf world cup in the german coastal resort of st peter ording and he didn't just watch on either li but rode the wave himself. thirty nine on monday and had said he would retire by the end of the year but when asked about his immediate plans klitschko said he wants to fight again his career record stands at forty wins and just two things so where are faces him next

will have to be so tough test. at the moment we don't have any certain plans who will fight next so we're talking to different opponents the german from russia has a lot of interest in the fight and a somehow doesn't want to fight as it turns out my brother challenged him which we never go to monsoon but i knew my next fight will begin an interesting opponent i can't give you the name yet but you'll be very popular one of the best books in the world. and that's what we've got in the world of sport for the moment you can also get an update on the events in russia and around the world on our website artsy dot com so head there when you get a chance thank you for watching. chain that started off toward me and lost it for almost a floozy is the jewel of two super powers and tonight brains. of

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how to deal with the so-called epidemic others claim it's nothing more than a lifestyle disease. and ending wealth discrimination president obama is determined to extend unemployment benefits slamming republicans for courting the rich with tax cuts as the senate prepares to vote. watching r.t. live from moscow nine am here on marina joshie welcome to the program now seventeen nations have gathered in the afghan capital kabul for the country's biggest international event in decades they are to agree to hand security back to afghan forces by two thousand and fourteen and pull their troops out britain and pakistan however have already said some international forces may remain beyond the day to train afghan police.