with me i have talked to enough wealth a member of the israeli parliament who sits on the final say and defense committees dr thank you very much for joining us here on our t.v. a few weeks before the fire to the cave in you warned the israeli defense minister a good bit about not to use military force you said at that time this has nothing to do with security and the armaments for hamas are not coming from the how then can israel justify its use of force well in my view the flotilla was alternately an effort it was a p.r. effort it was clearly not a humanitarian effort to those who conducted it truly cared about the humanitarian situation in gaza they had numerous opportunities and were offered numerous opportunities to take whatever they wanted it to god through the main entrance into gaza so this was clearly about sending out a message about a p.r.

kind of campaign my argument was that when we are engaged in the campaign over idea over images the last thing we need to do is give the other side because sadly what they want which is an image of conflict with israeli soldiers this is clearly what they want to think came into this effort seeking that image so clearly a provocation the fingers that when you're engaged in that kind of battle you have to be smarter than the other side and not to give them the images that they seek so you can justify the use of soldiers and if you look at a very specific effort to kind of go through that blockade in israel has a legitimate blockade that is defined by international law as well but my point was that we are here are we are fighting and a war of ideas and there is an effort even i would say a cordon a good effort to isolate israel to portray. as an illegitimate state we

have to respond in kind and we have to protect ourselves by intellectual means and when this is the arena the use of soldiers it's not the best use i'm not saying that israel didn't have the right to use them it has the right the fact that you have to write to soldiers doesn't mean that it's necessarily the smartest thing in the service of your cause what would have been the alternative to letter through. we did it in the past and it worked brilliantly because you deprived the other side of exactly what they want they want that image of confrontation you deprive them of it the story fizzles the international media is not interested since this is ultimately a p.r. campaign you kind of literally you take the wind out of their sails by letting the ships through with that not have deeded just israel's blockade on gaza on the contrary. we let ships four times who have the path and

nothing happened because ultimately it's all about the story and it's all about the media and if the media is not interested it disappears so you're now kind of backtracking given the interest that the world has in the story of what result of our failure the fact that we kind of responded to the provocation in a way that what's not wise but had we just let it go through no one in the media the story would have fizzled within a day and if we would have fizzled within a day no one would have been interested in israel's blockade a moment later why do you not think that this was as the organizers of the fatalis say and they tend to try and challenge israel's hold on gaza indeed many in the international community believe this is well oh because it's never about that because if it's not that then there's something else and because these organizations a few look if you look what happens with in turkey if you look at the suffering of other people around the world they somehow. never show that same passion and caring

about suffering in other places in the world as i said if they really wanted to bring good humanitarian aid they had all the opportunities to do so this was clearly a challenge and it was a challenge the words focused it's something that is alternately ain't it israel's ability to protect itself if you're going to deal a jew demise that and someone said very beautifully you often go to meetings with senior people in europe and they say of israel has every right to defend itself it's just that whenever israel tries to defend itself it's never the right moment so that's how you slow we undermine. the idea that israel has the right to defend itself as the homeland of the jewish people and every time we just find somewhere else and if israel leaves scars cell which is remarkable again israel left gaza to the one nine hundred sixty seven borders not a single soldier in gaza not a single settlement in gaza and yet what you see you see the palestinians and

especially my saying oh no no no no you has really left you still occupy us because the refuse to assume responsibility hasn't for bid that they should actually be responsible and build something and give up on this culture of always resisting always being against they would actually have to prove themselves and we think of that so there's a desire to constantly say you never really left you still occupy us you still responsible and because you're still responsible we can sit back and we're not responsible so why was israel's defense minister and the rest of the defense establishment not open to this kind of thinking because if you look at the leadership of israel today it was forged through military struggle and it was forged through anti-terrorist struggle so they are still the outcome of a different arena the arena that looked at miller. terry threats terrorist threats

and that got very good at responding to those threats and it takes a while to understand that the arena shifted also for israel it took a while to understand that classic wars have ended and now it's terrorism it costs a few decades to find the proper response to international domestic terrorism to build an export based economy so these mental changes are actually take time because once you create those mental structures it's very hard for you to shift. when i talk about an intellectual attack of towns fluffy sounds i mean for a man who went through the military this this is not this is not a serious attack what intellectual attack in your opinion how is israel fairing in this war of words do you think for example that israel gets a say hearing in the international media there's no doubt that whatever happens here it gets this proportional attention to anything that happens anywhere else.

what i do find that the main problem here is that people rush to judgment. and there there's no appreciation for the complexity of the situation for the complexity of the conflict and i think of anything we should insist on the complexity of things so that people would understand that it's not so simple to rush to judgment in the situation it's also simple to decide who's of the right and i think this would israel should really make a. fight for it battle for now that we're right they're wrong i don't think that's the way to go but just to insist that the situation is far more complex that might appear in the first few minutes of watching a video the findings of an internal israeli military probe has been published and they found that there were problems with the operation the planning the execution but the findings did not actually put the blame on anyone what kind of value do you

think a probe like this has this is within the box no one comes up and says just a moment the whole thinking should have been different the whole thinking should have been that this is not a new reno where the military gets sent because the military doesn't know how to deal with images with ideas. so in that respect it's not helpful to the kind of shift that i think israel should make in order to truly win in this war of ideas you've written a book might as well all generation do you think that the new generation obvious way the leadership such as yourself will take this kind of thinking on board yes certainly i mean my generation did my generation is the first generation that fought in the first intifada it with an intifada with the with marked very much by this battle of ideas and images so i think we're much more aware of that we don't really we're not aware of

a history of military and wars that's kind of in the books for us this and history so yes i. i think hopefully that is some of the change that could take place but i hope it takes sooner than the time that is required for my generation to get to a position of leadership in the country do you think we're now going to see fit to last a tele with these radii to ship dealing with it in the same way so very much the same kind of reaction the desire to send ships came from what people perceived as this great success of the first one right everyone wanted to pick it's a big when babies and gods are in name aaron to go on then you know the iranian president wants that to someone lump in on in libya too but once they see the media is no longer interested it fizzles it becomes pathetic then also the interest to do so becomes lower doesn't mean that they look for more dramatic ways to get

attention in the international arena so in fact the fear to look to be something small compared to what is going to come well it's i think what we also need to understand about this arena is that it's never going to be a one off victory and it people kind of told me ok we would have let it go and then what always this question of and then what and i say when we go to war when we fight terrorism when we build an economy we don't say and then what we understand that this is going to be all the time and we're going to have to overcome challenges all the time as soon as we shift our understanding we understand that this is the key arena where israel and the zionist ideas threaten today that we constantly try to outwit and outsmart the other side the other side we're going to try to do the same to us and we have to be smarter and better but it's not going to disappear until alternately twenty thirty years from now as with all our other challenges and wars the other side basically says ok. they want. well thank you

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you could of rubin. told the fury andy schleck bias to get revenge after losing the yellow jersey in controversial fashion. started to moscow have moved up to second in the russian premier league one now when i was bottom side greatest of get off putting them within six points of leaders and eight the army men relying on a penalty kick in the tenth minutes of play move three points at first the rest decision may have looked a bit harsh this scene again another angle and create can't complain too much and i think islanders a go is stepping up to score his fish this season while korea like iraq for them but had chances to get something from this natural right to scars highly rated keeper actually fear making sure his team held on to the way. lowly sanson meanwhile stung fools by spot that now take a three one home victory putting started in three points clear of the relegation zone wrestle boarding a dubious penalty for their first retreat could have changed converting for one

mill. alexander supporter then added another after half an hour the keeper falls here really. but you couldn't do too much about going to change this second just before the break. real sweet strike this straight into the top corner. but with twenty minutes the guys thought it mounted to give themselves some hope when required pull back albeit from another goal keeping the state but they couldn't add to that and actually got his marching orders for a second yellow card. in the dying minutes. so last night's game shaping things up at the bottom of the table then eat the latest but moving into second there six points behind rubin are just behind them were spotted in fourth despite having won one of the last five games and at the bottom sutter putting a bit of daylight between themselves and the relegation side. some transfer news

now and any have signed three big stars with alexander to put all the school sixteen goals in twenty three games last season and is the second lifted striker to leave the recent times be somewhat goal shy this season argentina one hundred domingo's into next twenty three goals being last year but was sold to valencia. last season. now in england they will pose new boss roy hodgson has made his first signing for the club bringing in england midfielder james cole after his contract was not renewed chelsea be seen as a replacement. he moved in the other direction to stamford bridge. but another highly anticipated move may never happen as barcelona coach pep guardiola was pessimistic about landing recent world cup winner and arsenal capped incest fabry gas guardiola spoke of his first media conference since signing a one year extension with this spanish champions last week and also explained why he didn't want to time self to the catalan side for any longer. but why the more we

don't work much better under short term contract i need to know that things work fine and we understand each other i'm talking about the players which are the ones i work with i need to know we have a good relationship and that we want them to get even better and if everything goes fine and i feel strong enough then i'll stay for another year or more. now and ice hockey in ice hockey rushes. won't be coming home any time soon after the double world champion resigned with n.h.l. club the new jersey devils couples who had been pondering his future for over a month but decided to stay put despite speculation he could join scar st petersburg in the kontinental hockey league he will be officially revealed as the new jews and choose date news conference the last time the twenty seven year old played for a russian side was during the n.h.l. lockout back into by another news fireworks of promised in the tour de france today

luxembourg rider and each leg was back to get revenge after losing the yellow jersey to defending champion alberto contador in controversial fashion show started stage fifteen yesterday in your life thirty one seconds ahead of contador and saw his chance to increase that lead on the last big climb of the day in a peyronie's powering ahead after catching contador off guard but then schlecht train came off real bad luck however citing etiquette says riders should not attack the yellow jersey if he has a mechanical problem but contador yours that it seems that his opportunities in the past instead of easing up at this stage was won by french we had thomas speck of contador now lead to the general classification and was cheered by the crowd when he pulled on the yellow jersey tonight secondly dovish like he was fuming joy is not finished for me you know i. i'm angry. i'm angered today you know and i'll take my revenge. but you know it's a by chris and i personally i would not like this but. you know it's not me. it's

not me. i don't think it's of a.b.c. heavyweight champion tally klitschko has taken time off to enjoy his favorite sport which is surprising thing but the ukrainian heavyweight still couldn't take his mind off boxing and promised hilfiger her high profile opponents see russia's nick i value with being one of the options the elder klitschko brother attended the world cup in the german coastal resort a sin people ordering and who can just watch on. the waves himself the carling ten thirty nine on monday and had said he would retire by the end of the game but when asked about his immediate plans. he wants to fight again his career record stands at fourteen wins and just to say whether facing him next was to the top. at the moment we don't have any certain plans who will fight next we're talking to

different opponents but the journey from russia has a lot of interest. and somehow doesn't want to fight as it turns out my brother. never got an answer but i knew my next fight will be against an interesting opponent i can't give you the name yet but you will be very popular one of the best boxers in the world. to wait and see now finally the russian aerobatics championships took place at the weekend this spectacular sport doesn't attract much media attention or support from the government but it is worth taking a look at that as the story. born to fly it's called competition air body aches and it demands car age as well as skeel rush is one of the leaders in the sport it can boast a number of champions but it's

a sport result mass appeal one of the problem is that it's very difficult to attract sponsors because the t.v. unfortunately. does not pay so much attention to this sport it's difficult. it's difficult to. be hail money stuff as one of the most famous pilots in competition aerobatics. he won this year's russian championships in then leave in that category and sometimes minor stuff gets upset about the lack of investment in his sport so. unfortunately we don't get support from our government they prefer to turn their eyes towards olympic sports for example curling i do respect that sports but aviation can really build a country's glory and i think it's far more important these planes have seen better times and due to their lack of funding the russian team is forced to fly them. new

plans for us ports haven't been produced for fifteen years i'll team try to make ourselves heard and restart its production but so far we haven't received any reaction that walt aerobatics championship sergeant poland next month the russian team will be called favorites and the old no a good performance will be a huge step towards stake in the sportsbook you larry to new heights. but used to log our team. spectacular stuff that is all the sport. until us. every month we give you the future we help you understand how to get there and what tomorrow brings the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world to join us for technology update on our g.

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