transformed. into real olympic capital turning it from an aging city into one of the most vibrant and modern cities in europe he claims now that moscow can and must develop into a state of the our capital of eurasia is a fantasy sensible evaluation we're about to find out. a big city and a beautiful city for many people these two notions. but spanish architect to be you know how to make them gel he was chief architect the bus alone designing its loop for the ninety ninety two olympics now cities across the world once are north of you to create a vision of the future for them is frequently in russia consulting with the authorities and viciously developing the city of cars but across subsp a bridge is moscow says it has everything to become a secure future now which this edition of spotlight to get beyond.

thank you very much for coming to our program thank you. first of all i want i have a quote when one of the interviews you gave to. couple of years ago you said the following quote i'm an architect with little interest in brilliant works i'm in favor of finding solutions to street interceptions that don't work well and quote so how can he you one of the best known architects a professor of architecture and you say you're not you rather interested in. junctions than in architecture. and you know that. they're not. going to have to. bury them i think for for many people that especially for their field and then you know.

i think half of the population of the planet live. in the moment. but i think i'll leave. the questions that you are considering important for the future. climate and these kind of questions the part of our nation each but only the city and so consequently they are it's true the change in my opinion the direction of the of the architecture and especially of the. studies and then this is their vision because i many times i talking about that not that especially a salad but much more interesting in that moment in what is the responsibility of architecture in the battle of the future of things well but you had a possibility to practically rebuild re. your native city

of birth load how. before the olympics of nine hundred ninety two you made a lot you made it more livable more open a new streets new junctions new highways tunnels and so on so forth but. probably for tourists for people like me who come to live and work there it is fun but for those who live there do you think it's good like it's no longer a city of. but rather a city of highways. that i know of for the russian people he. is very important reasons are very very out of these people is very i don't know why this is true that it probably four of the colorado four of the. nationality of the four of a parental the only anyway and i. threw that i also started to work in the movie by the by for an eighty's he's very bottom to america that i was.

immediately after of the franco with a open. no they're not actually paid it and then we are walking in the moment in the more probably it's in the we're talking about of. because we're not as moral operational twenty cheap that way but. immediately we see that the browns obviously want a very large and then we embed and they only be gays as opportunity to trade for the city and one of the top four major there are two or three points in that our formation very important in the city of what for now with the olympics the force is that action should between the cd and the she grows back legally they said we proved very minds the. mobility of the cd and the most

important words in my opinion was all being bought for one and two the more from it before the city became even bigger was yours which you ate before. before the only big no we received but for one i was to course. then maybe one day and then today there are seventy percent of the budget of the economy of water and eyes as a consequence of this of the tourist well one of the problems here in moscow capital of russia is that the city is really overcrowded the traffic jams world where lots of problems you as an architect you you promote you popularize the advantage of small and medium sized cities you think that people should be developing cities towns and cities like that but how can we do that if there is no economic incentive for people to live in small towns everybody wants to move to two to the capital to too large to make a promise. i think there are two different questions in your question then

fares is that about the dimension of the city but without talking about the squares you are true that they. are probably the first born into all reminded to ride or to check their visions of the city is the capacity for the mobility. and the case of moscow he said be clear in my opinion i remember that two or three years of all i was talking about this question within the chief of moscow and i commend because if would be course in maybe then yes it was moscow probably should be call ups. and. maybe people think that is exaggerated but it is not what kind of collapse so the traffic collapse all our social data lab the lot of the collapsed he said konami called calatinus a consequence. and it's true that because he said. he said

but he cleared city by julie for today with the infrastructure that was the balance here in the brand of thirty five. finished by fifty the up by rail i had a seriously a year to five grammys of and then fortunately you have the metro. and you have this model is the same policy of infrastructure that you your please recall of this but only as a rule in moscow and new york but for example you are not the barrel in the last twenty years nothing for the car and you are increase your number of cars in moscow absolutely and you we arrived to the same proportion that the rest of of europe and then in that moment you have in my opinion many difficulties is very important introduce you may have to leave the problems of the. not only public transportation especially transport on the month is not that may throw it into another kind of

trash but for a very new mobility the new mobility is not obligate. friedel mobility and you should be included in the new and the medical transport system for one hundred meters not of it to promote wall. and then it is necessary including the parking nicely in main body in front of the mobility body c. and you have embodied in the sentence well muscovites i would say you are pretty pessimistic about moscow these days they don't like the air they breathe they don't like the water they drink they don't like the fact. sparks in moscow they hate driving in moscow and they all talk about this collapse that we're facing but you a specialist you also talk about a possible collapse mert you say in your interview that moscow is a perfect city to become the center they're hard on the vast territory between

between the ngos shanel and the chinese see the capital of the whole continent what may see some of the things here why are you so i'm very optimistic why do you have one small but important problem this is the traffic is to buy. your political position you mean the position you left in them in the man is very important because if you are you came from a long known and you world or the two parties. you are a better lean now when you are i've more or less talk or i know this a better practically already shown and you are i've practically to be in the middle of this area by the way the most important idea from the study called point of view or in the bottom of the sheet or example if you see that made of the war and the more important number of the year for the battle and many minutes. what these days she'd say that even defied from the global point of view these enormous out there

only possibilities moscow and then from my present perspective the people of us to do we need to moscow strong we need. in the middle between shanghai. and then this is pretty clear and in the other hand the possibility to organise you are almost all the cities that border now are not a very strong in the last year when i asked them how this kind of disease is very important as a consequence i feel that their idea of the big mosque up i absolutely agree but another question needs even of the role of big mosque. should be again there all the cities in russia i disagree with these ideas that are not there any. on. some big. crash my attic rational that it

was the beach and this is another question but moscow is the more. with the probably the most suspect that they've grown in russia for that and she says he was a. renowned spanish architect spotlight will do that shortly right after a break we'll continue this interview so stay with us don't go. into those you should. just repeat. speech from a cinema and landed in your living. specimens is sitting straight to your stereo display a life filled glass is no problem genuine three d.

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welcome back to a spot a long time now we know of and just to remind you that my guest in the studio today is just that i said bill you know i renounce spanish architect and c.e.o. of the metropolitan agency barcelona regional. dr sebelius you mentioned new york you compared moscow to new york and saying and then later you you continued saying that moscow has a possibility to to to become a great great city now. do you like new york because well i mean i love seattle well atlanta is i like atlanta washington's ok but new york city i really hate it well i think it's no place to live in i mean i live my heart and well it's not the same as i'm going to visit as a tourist. would you like to live in milan i was really my life and sometimes many times i was teaching in jail when i was leaving jail i was already very practically

at seven o'clock in the afternoon to the mail in my heart and so it's laughable you think you're using a livable city as a livable place yes in my opinion the most. rational she's in a war but rather is the city of the old people you can go to manhattan and we really as if you are born there because bali for the cinema for the leader for many respects anyway ok but so that is a very interesting the brownlees between the battle for money. in the therapies and that mosque is really cool so so so you drawing these parallels professor you want to say that it still is possible to make moscow a very livable city a nice city to live in there are you sure what should what should we do. why should

she be stopped driving is not. really. the problem of the made public infrastructure as it is personally the traffic infrastructures because the level of that knowledge for example isn't that magic in the moment but if you. use a very i when i was arrived today from a fan with a brain and i mean in terms of the cd there the quality of their contents of the dimension of the boulevards. the germ of the of the we were in a specially that relationship between the new and all that good that there is very important thing that in architecture. is this is very interesting but the duty infrastructures produce especially in the head of the fife brand are very important and the maids are on their boulevards and it is said and since there's these buildings you know many many believe he must come out of really difficult to find is the belief from moscow manhattan simple that the town hall of mahogany here in

the near of the style of the many buildings here and i study and i am very interesting in the relationship between the cities in the thirty's because of martyrs that was that they already got their architect not that it could be a best was made much more important than he might have been i like to know what is there over the marshes here who are neither known for the shame you know of but this is a question without resolve but they feel that the their stupid is the consequence of the brand of thirty five you mentioned because their own me mention flying. back from because i know you have been chosen by the government to. which is the capital love the tonto republic within the russian federation you were chosen as the man to to draw the new face of the city to to do something some big structural something like you did to barcelona well what are you doing to

are you leaving the colonel and now you're leaving the kremlin there and the white girl and. the white man is one of the most wonderful really didn't graduate in europe now but these two that. he said. i can understand why it's not so important because you know that these are so we because it's near of two million people i think i found leave. fifty percent muslims but there are not any conflict. any problems that quotation in between these are absolutely perfect he's the only exceedingly war in my opinion that these fifty fifty walking in the same. way this is the first question and the second is that they feel that therefore it is of profound barely i don't know what is that but that you know more or less the president and the premier and especially to the mail is very pragmatic. too and then especially the message really young and then

a feeling that the possibilities of this city. and in the other hand the city easing the idea of the burra and then these hard is very interesting in my opinion not only for the landscape but for the. they do fairly share surely in their fifty's in russia was really brought up on their electorate. shall we have barrier for many reasons i think that the fun is very important. than in the future and but especially the big capital of the city of a family of the people do you still do you think that still has the opportunity while it will be growing. to evade the mistakes made by made by the people who built. now is different in because the scale. and now confound his ability to call the opportunity with the other. two thousand and

thirteen and one of the major way in the sprawl hit. in the same way that got thrown one hundred change and you are a matter of seconds of course of the olympics will be possible the same in the city of perth and i hope that once all i am not sure if you can. be the same but the financial that's will be very positive for the city and then there are these problems that you have in this country solved he got the people. see that all are subtly of moscow and then i think. change the mentality of the people understand that families have fun and know what he needs noisy mutinies necessary he may have more this opinion or one of many brands to the bell or new constellation of seats or not the only one t.v. here is not again moscow he's more stay here but he's necessarily course the nations who for example you know that you know this area more or less sure but you

understand that this is a fun. news. so you had the. summer. maybe not rise to two hundred of these not possible practical your life really the the tran the re not exist many times duran's i believe and then my question is east absolutely necessary for in my opinion differing there are a lot of policies of the new metropolitan areas like that. invades in the or on the base of the higher speed rail but all the other said listen you mentioned the federal government but russia has always been a very centralized country with a central government in central iraq. the country now do you think it really would

you expect the government in moscow that it will want to establish their huge metropolitan area as big and as powerful as moscow in the qur'an to react to some or do you think this is this may happen i in my opinion should be the not only of what needs to policy. economic policy should be very important that the federal government and the people understand that the constellation of metropolitan areas in russia is absolutely necessary our needs not their game the center of power of moscow this is a pretty clear win and i think that for example there are no other guys but he clearly is not was you need. this is but i feel the same is so much fun to listen to you but we were assured sometimes i would ask you a couple of questions i should ask you as an architect well listen i have heard i

was sure about this controversy in st petersburg about the skyscraper that they want to build inside st booboo so some people say that. it will destroy the this carline of the city but the other people say that every century is leaving its landmarks so let the twenty first century leave leave its landmarks to what would you say are you in favor of those who want to save the city as it is or are you in favor of those to say the twenty first century twenty first century europe is usually call you because i was called by one of the dangers of catherine about this petition and then my problem is not the high bill that i and i seen that is possible absolutely the compatibility between the story. with the high buildings so you think that difference doesn't destroy the skyline of belarus it's. more for but i was again to deal with these anonymous buildings we throw very.

wide. discussion about the this is the question because in one building of that you can put practically fifty thousand square meters and then we hear from that p.v.t. point of view from the canonical of point of view our social is very important and then in my opinion should be important in this cause. and what is the functionality of this building not only the discussion about the about the fall then. this discourse about the discussion between the buildings finishing in my opinion with this crash after this crash it should be much more important discourse about the substance about the substantive questions in the in the believes are not in the four years that as a bill you are a guest today in the studio spotlight

a man who we invited here to spotlight because he thought he's the man behind the rebuilding of paris alone now back in one thousand nine hundred two but actually we just found out that he's the man who is behind all that happens in russia everything build in russia is built with the advice and consent thank you very much thank you for being with us just a reminder that we'll be back with more comments on what's going on here in outside russia. say tuned and see here in the next edition of spotlight. thank you.

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