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was a military setback in vietnam i know that's a current argument that the us military may have leaked this in order to blame pakistan or to blame others i don't think that's really what's going on i think that there are voices within the u.s. military just as there were doing in vietnam who have become disillusioned with the war and are releasing these documents to paint a picture that tells something quite different from the official version with the hope that the american people will as they did during vietnam become opponents of the war and help change the policy i understand the point of view of the pakistani government because the americans are blaming pakistan for every setback and putting them and credible pressure at the very same time they use drone airplanes to go and kill pakistani civilians as if it doesn't matter as if they have every right to do it but i don't think that's what really motivated the leakers the whistleblowers who generated this cache of documents i think it's because they want the world and what motivated these whistleblowers well i think that people are skeptical now and
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no longer trust in their government and they believe that the people have been lied to as we were lied to in iraq when there was no weapons of mass destruction we were lied to about the real purpose of the war in afghanistan where we are nine years later after the start of the afghanistan we're a war that seems analysts a war that has no discernible outcome what's the victory defined as and so you see a cynicism and skepticism developing within the military within the enlisted officials there are now pumping documents out just as daniel ellsberg put out the pentagon papers from within the pentagon in one thousand nine hundred ninety he had turned against the war many people said that these documents that you know constitute anything all the information out there was already known to the public was already known to the administration what do you say to that is that well it's true and not true because of course the administration knew that they were losing the war in the. and the documents paint that picture so in one sense that's true
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but there's something very strange and hypocritical about the pronouncements that this is nothing new if you went back and one nine hundred seventy and looked at the new york times coverage of the pentagon papers which also use classified documents to tell the story of vietnam the pentagon and the media said the same thing oh this is old news this is old news nothing relevant here they said the same thing during the pentagon papers but what was new was that the american people were learning about it for the first time and that's what's new that's what makes it a catalyst for antiwar opposition are you saying that this war in afghanistan is an unwinnable that's what these documents are saying in its broadest context these documents prove that the war in afghanistan cannot be won and that the leaders of the us government know that it cannot be won but they don't want to tell the american people the truth because they don't want to take responsibility they don't want to have it be known in history that on our watch obama or patrol is that we
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lost we the great united states lost a war against an armed insurgency in afghanistan the previous four wiki leaks also in iraq didn't really have any impact on u.s. strategy in iraq or anything in iraq what do you believe that this might have any impact on the u.s. strategy in afghanistan i think the documents by themselves the release just as like you mentioned the release of that terrible assault on the reuters news reporter and other iraqi civilians in april two thousand some people who were murdered in cold blood that created a stir for a little while in the united states but the mass media the corporate media downplayed it this could just be a blip and not a big deal it really depends on what the political forces inside the united states do with this new information the white house wants to make it go away say it's not a big story no big deal but it's up to other people those and there's a growing number of them who oppose the war in afghanistan agr. hold of these
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documents and say to the american people why are we spending a billion dollars a billion dollars every two or three days for a war without purpose what kind of fact will they have on the u.s. relations with both gabble and islamabad and their relations between islamabad and capitol well i think there are some forces within the united states military who want to take advantage of the document just as some of the pakistanis have said to put additional pressure on pakistan and they want pakistan to function more or less as a puppet regime of the united states and of course pakistan is a big country a proud people they don't want to be anybody's puppets and so there's going to be a growing tension and a growing clash i think between the united states and pakistan because this circle cannot be squared pakistan has its own national interests it doesn't want to be a client state for the united states and yet this is what the americans want in terms of kabul i think the karzai government is fundamentally a client regime
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a puppet government he can only go so far he tries the distance himself from the occupation in order to have any credibility with the afghan people who are against the occupation but he can only do so much he is their puppet what are the options out there for the afghanis and for the pakistanis well i think that ultimately the only solution will be when the afghan people determine their own destiny no one else can shape the outcome for afghanistan for pakistan the people in pakistan with all of the multi-layered political trends and tendencies they too have to be able to be free to chart their own destiny without drone attacks without american intervention without the cia dictating policy to them and a congressional hearing recently at the at the house of representatives the lower maker something us. used we killed leaks as a reference to you not to their speech. isn't it their information what do these
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lawmakers have other than what the public have their sad state of affairs in american democracy is that congress before hundred thirty five members of the house of representatives and one hundred senators the greatest chambers of democracy in the world we are told have really devolved degenerated into nothing more than a talk shop for politicians who run every two or four or six years perceives that cost millions of dollars of corporate spending in order to get elected and once in office they do very little except talk talk talk congress and only congress according to the us constitution has the right to declare war but they didn't declare war in afghanistan and that sense it's an illegal war only congress has the right to control the purse strings meaning only congress can allocate money and yet when the pentagon or the white house tell them allocate the money and allow the authorization of an undeclared war to go on and on and on you see the politicians
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from both parties essential saying ok do you think after this huge leak there should be an investigation into human rights abuses in afghanistan yes and i think more than an investigation there should be criminal prosecutions in other words the united states lectures the rest of the world and says you must be a country or a government that lives by the rule of law not by people that means no human being is above the law one of us generals us politicians or soldiers and marines on the ground commit crimes carry out attacks against civilians like we know they've killed so many civilians in afghanistan and that this is a policy and was a policy those people from the top not just a little soldiers but from the top of must be held accountable so there should be a human rights investigation there should also be criminal prosecution an indictment for any acts of war crimes crimes or. against humanity how do you think
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this is affecting the situation in afghanistan that situation in pakistan and the situation because of the the united states and the those two countries well i think that the united states is sort of stuck it looked at afghanistan and all of the surrounding former southern republics of the soviet union as a great pyre great piece of pie or piece of real estate that they could take and make military bases and turkmenistan kurdistan was back to stand afghanistan in other words it would be an americans fear of influence and everybody would have to go along with the new power of the united states in this region but it turned out to be a fantasy because through military occupation instead of dominating the people the united states by its mere presence with foreign occupation troops has become a catalyst in igniter of armed insurgency against the united states that can only end when the united states leaves and lets the people of these countries in this
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region be free to determine their own destiny free from foreign occupation thank you very much sir thank you. coming into the future. just three she escaped from a cinema and landed in your living room. specialises stream streeter stereo display a life no glasses no problem gentian her own three d. until she obtained. leave the country.
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containing callicles from china were swept away by floods and currently for the border. whistleblower website. thousands of classified u.s. documents revealing cover ups in the morning among the roll ations was reporting of civilian deaths. those were the stories that shaped the week and up next we're bringing you the sports news with. you're watching the sports news an artsy thanks for joining us this hour they have lines is it needs are unstoppable in the russian primarily the same pittsburgh side increasing that overlaid with yet another victory of being too cold has not been named one of saturday's highlights. rush hour in full control of the european
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a flat exchange and ships in barcelona securing twice as many medals as the nearest rivals with one day of competition to go. and extrusion behavior here new gun yawn gets through skateboarding girls while jimmy bass when it shines on e.s.p.n. makes by having sixteenth annual it's games in los angeles. now it's off way through the russian premier league season and the pick of south of these actions sold tabletop was in need to fit champions or be in and extend the overall aid in the process semi comfortably won the match after a brace of pills from strike that i did something get a sucker just before half time for some of the out. shots. and gets a call from out of the sack and all the data silva to me a final score off the sixty five minutes almost made a cross that was in the head of the far post by the national scored striker it means the transport is now temperance i had over being the.
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elsewhere terry great to live here with the same squad suniel and in the late games now my way held to a job. here in moscow. meanwhile spanish football giants are real madrid began training ahead of a couple of pre-season friendlies in north america the club's record signing course tanner and aldo spoke to the press earlier this week and said he is excited about the upcoming season maureen you do. finish. you off to focus knowing that and majid are really focus i will account for this for this season. we come here to los angeles to carry on with the adrenaline so we're ready we are ready for the decision and not know the mall should there's a training so when you start to say there we are ready. this new coach he said warning of a very very good experience in
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a diverse very good training center is he just showed but intensity training so you are really right. and these goods is always good to travel to see different cultures so we are very happy to be here now russia continuing the european championships in barcelona a total of twenty medals now for the country twice as many as their nearest rivals . russian ladies have claimed three medals in the women's four hundred metres final but see on my field of boxing a spell of and i'm going in the three of us up there getting a good start and securing gold silver and bronze respectively a bit of a holding on for a fast have a korea gold medal adding to a collection which includes two olympic silver is from athens and a world champion should go on last am. well that's a hell of a given that isn't bible is noticeably absent from the low voltage bounce with law itself on a bill that was doing a great job in bringing russia and now the gold the arsons layering four point
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seven to five meters while germans silkiest pinboard and these a rise of got silver and bronze respective me with four meters sixty five centimeters. not more successful the arsenal because it was eight hundred metres might be a seven about living up to her status as bravery by winning a title one minute to a point twenty two seconds the swans a boy of all that in the second gold of the yeah the winning of the same discipline at the world indoor championships. the result of the continued no breakthrough success in the middle distances winning the women's three thousand meter steeplechase well have been martyrdom and this was unable to overpower the russian towards the end meaning spain's first medal of the petition is a silver one the worst got a lot of i want to battle the bruins to join compadre it's on the podium.
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if i'm in the title and chew over that syndrome a form in the women's four hundred meter hurdles one building record setting fashion the vet's jumana covering the distance in a time all fifty two point ninety two seconds bulgarian vanya some ball about picked up so well while breaking the sperry shakes drayton set a personal best to grab a bronze medal. outside stateside now where some of the world's bast daredevils have gathered once again to showcase their skills at the sixteenth annual igs games in los angeles you're going to yawn stealing the show in the skateboard events where jamie bass rig producing some magic on a bee and makes bike englishman bastard showing great film or it showing forty six points for his wife for the highs for the finals best becoming the first driver in history to win big be a mix of various bands more times elsewhere to family because it was shown why it was on hand to try for move more domestically bob the twenty three year old who
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specializes in snowboarding as well as a boarding was stopped short by p.r. new guy new on the degree that canadian so cool on the two first place and he also got his second build overnight in the fast tree that's going. now back in russia the country's street ball team reclaimed the trophy they lost to ukraine last him to study in the final of the fourth annual moscow open letter also has the story. bad weather is a common problem for street below organizer. as in moscow cold hard win and poor and we intend to show up at the least appropriate moment that certainly wasn't the case at the annual moscow open which attracted the biggest number of british disciplines and spectators in his four year history. the temperature dropped to just thirty two celsius from thirty seven the previous day making nearly perfect playing conditions team russia had a lot to prove after losing their title from two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight to korean last year and after hanging on to the feast of venus
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best of three series on friday the host made the quarterfinals teen daughters had an ace up their sleeve center aleksander the who's tending to throw our team tall and when one twenty kilograms but when she's over all still sat along with the sullied game plan and execution were too much for the rules to handle and the same the final against italy was even an easier ride as point guard nicole didn't or was on fire from long range whatever the player who emerged at the fan favorite didn't represent the home crowd it was team romania's experienced leader with a beautiful acting name tanika steele he's charisma combined with an unparalleled passion and killer instict on the floor made him the star of the tournament despite one man's heartbreaking loss to italy and the third place game showing that really you know we fell into a rhythm but it brought to me that we didn't make anything we were trying we were trying because we know address the bottom part of the three ball but they're going
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right to the finally was time for what usually is the most exciting part of it all the slam dunk contest which soon turned into a two man showdown between a local high flier alex on the show again and book i look of the serbian team and even though the serb have the most spectacular donk of all the hometown boy was more consistent and left home with the title at fourteen russia their final against estonia was a predictably tougher contest than the previous ones but once again. smart play and taken advantage of the mismatches got the job done for the most eighteen turn of the final score would you say you want to sound of the tournament m.v.p. the most keep the trophy for the third time you for years the media was before a t.v. moscow. and there's been more sports most of it is at the luzhniki on saturday as part of the international sports forum taking place here in the capital and i'm on course as reports. that russia is truly
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in india she's available on the go to join b. which opens. the gateway to the ground appearing truly towards west coast coromandel you can a let's go toe to toe to go clear brother said the colonel was her job as a retreat. twenty eight people have died and thousands more have been left homeless by its continued to but throughout central russia. major disclosure whistleblower web side
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we can mix publishes sounds of classified documents revealing cover ups in the war in afghanistan including unreported civilian deaths. plus water supplies in russia's far east are under threat as china struggles to prevent thousands of toxic barrels swept away by flooded river from reaching the russian border. eleven am in the russian capital you're watching r t and the sunday morning we bring you the stories of the week and the fires that have ravaged central russia over the last week are continuing to spread across even greater swathes of the country so far twenty eight lives have been taken by the blazes and thousands of people are now homeless are you sarah ferguson the rotters region one of the worst hit areas. one hundred thousand hecht though but
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a huge amount of land because of course by this extreme heat wave that russia has seen over the past month those say that has left this done extremely dry very susceptible to these outbreaks of that we still say and unfortunately no sign of the hates abating just yet so mad. since the service is really still trying to get the situation under control we've had they've had a huge amount of help from volunteers and from the russian army all say trying to gain control of the situation there's still around two hundred towns and villages that are under threat where is a readiness that is being very badly hit by the fight for the last couple of days i'm sure you can see behind me some of the damage that's being done now this is left thousands of people homeless we've had twenty eight people who already have died in these fires including the fire fight is and thousands more now left without that we speak into some of the local people have run as she lost.
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