ability for a defeat in afghanistan just like nixon did not want to take responsibility for what he knew was a military setback in vietnam i know that's a current argument that the us military may have leaked this in order to blame pakistan or to blame others i don't think that's really what's going on i think that there are voices within the u.s. military just as there were doing in vietnam who have become disillusioned with the war and are releasing these documents to paint a picture that tells something quite different from the official version with the hope that the american people will as they did during vietnam become opponents of the war and help change the policy i understand the point of view of the pakistani government because the americans are blaming pakistan for every setback and putting them and credible pressure at the very same time they use drone airplanes to go and kill pakistani civilians as if it doesn't matter as if they have every right to do it but i don't think that's what really motivated the leakers the whistleblowers

who generated this cache of documents i think it's because they want the word and what motivated these whistleblowers well i think that people are skeptical now and no longer trust in their government and they believe that the people have been lied to as we were lied to in iraq when there was no weapons of mass destruction we were lied to about the real purpose of the war in afghanistan where we are nine years later after the start of the afghanistan we're a war that seems endless a war that has no discernible outcome victory defined us and so you see a cynicism and skepticism developing within the military within the enlisted officials there are now pumping documents out just as daniel ellsberg put out the pentagon papers from within the pentagon in one thousand nine hundred ninety he had turned against the war many people said that these documents then you know constitute anything all the information out there was already known to the public was already known to the administration what do you say to that is. that well it's

true and not true because of course the administration knew that they were losing the war in the in the documents paint that picture so in one sense that's true but there's something very strange and hypocritical about the pronouncements that this is nothing new if you went back in one thousand nine hundred seventy and looked at the new york times coverage of the pentagon papers which also use classified documents to tell the story of vietnam the pentagon and the media said the same thing oh this is old news this is old news nothing relevant here they said the same thing during the pentagon papers but what was new was that the american people were learning about it for the first time and that's what's new that's what makes it a catalyst for antiwar opposition are you saying that this war in afghanistan is and when of all that's what these documents are saying in its broadest context these documents prove that the war in afghanistan cannot be won and that the leaders of the us government know that it cannot be won but they don't want to tell the american people the truth because they don't want to take responsibility they

don't want to have it be known in history that on our watch obama or patrol is that we lost we the great united states lost the war against an armed insurgency in afghanistan the previous four wiki leaks also in iraq didn't really have any impact on u.s. strategy in iraq or anything in iraq when do you believe that this might have any impact on the u.s. strategy in afghanistan i think the documents by themselves release just as like you mentioned the release of that terrible assault on the reuters news reporter and other iraqi civilians in april two thousand some people who were murdered in cold blood that created a stir for a little while in the united states but the mass media the corporate media downplayed it this could just be a blip and not a big deal it really depends on what the political forces inside the united states do with this new information the white house wants to make it go away say it's not a big story no. big deal but it's up to other people below those and there's

a growing number of them who oppose the war in afghanistan to grab hold of these documents and say to the american people why are we spending a billion dollars a billion dollars every two or three days for a war without purpose what kind of effect will they have on the u.s. relations with both gabble and islamabad and their relations between islamabad and capitol well i think there are some forces within the united states military who want to take advantage of the document just as some of the pakistanis have said to put additional pressure on pakistan and they want pakistan to function more or less as a puppet regime of the united states and of course pakistan is a big country a proud people they don't want to be anybody's puppets and so there's going to be a growing tension and a growing clash i think between the united states and pakistan because this circle cannot be squared pakistan has its own national interests it doesn't want to be a client state for the united states and yet this is what the americans want in

terms of kabul i think the karzai government is fundamentally a client regime a puppet government he can only go so far he tries the distance himself from the occupation in order to have any credibility with the afghan people who are against the occupation but he can only do so much he is their puppet what are the options out there for the afghanis and for the pakistanis well i think that ultimately the only solution will be when the afghan people determine their own destiny no one else can shape the outcome for afghanistan for pakistan the people in pakistan with all of the multi-layered political trends and tendencies they too have to be able to be free to chart their own destiny without drone attacks without american intervention without the cia dictating policy to them and a congressional hearing recently at the at the house of representatives the low may . there is something us used we killed leaks as

a reference to you not to their speeches and to their information what do these lawmakers have other than what the public have their sad state of affairs in american democracy is that congress the four hundred thirty five members of the house of representatives and one hundred senators the greatest chambers of democracy in the world we are told have really devolved degenerated into nothing more than a talk shop for politicians who run every two or four or six years perceives that cost millions of dollars of corporate spending in order to get elected and once in office they do very little except talk talk talk congress and only congress according to the us constitution has the right to declare war but they didn't declare war in afghanistan and that sense it's an illegal war only congress has the right to control the purse strings meaning only congress can allocate money and yet when the pentagon or the white house tell them allocate the money and allow the

authorization of an undeclared war to go on and on and on you see the politicians from both parties essential to saying ok do you think after this huge leak there should be an investigation into human rights abuses in afghanistan yes and i think more than an investigation there should be criminal prosecutions in other words the united states lectures the rest of the world and says you must be a country or a government that lives by the rule of law not by people that means no human being is above the law one of us generals us politicians or soldiers and marines on the ground commit crimes carry out attacks against civilians like we know they've killed so many civilians in afghanistan and that this is a policy and was a policy those people from the top not just a little soldiers but from the top of must be held accountable so there should be a human rights of us to. asian there should also be criminal prosecution in

indictment for any acts of war crimes or crimes against humanity how do you think this is affecting the situation in afghanistan that if you wish and in pakistan and the situation because of the the united states and the those two countries well i think that the united states is sort of stuck look at afghanistan and all of the surrounding former southern republics of the soviet union as a great pyre great piece of pie or a piece of real estate that they could take and make military bases and turkmenistan kurdistan was back to stand afghanistan in other words it would be an american sphere of influence and everybody would have to go along with the new power of the united states in this region but it turned out to be a fantasy because through military occupation instead of dominating the people the united states by its mere presence with foreign occupation troops has become a catalyst in igniter of armed insurgency against the united states that can only

end when the united states leaves and lets the people of these countries in this region be free to determine their own destiny free from foreign occupation thank you very much sir thank you. let. me see. if you last saw.

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league including winsford say sky and sumeet over the weekend. mark webber takes the lead in formula one's drive a standings while russia has been diluted provosts a korea placed finish. and thrills and spills will have the latest high lines from the sixteenth additional of the igs games at the staples center in los angeles. and would kick off with a russian for both premier league. leaders need to grinding out a two one win in a heated against spartak moscow the young man scoring only three goals in that one was a bit is helping out his capital rivals even though the seventy second minute there . says the however were able to regroup following the episode so he story from a free kick to tie proceedings. and then that's another one to make it to won any jury time. to second place in the league with thirty points while sparta dropped to

seven. and in sunday's second game or a stall of moving to fifth place very narrow win over like a mighty of one meal how it sounded in moscow after what he would be winning goal thirty five minutes and. however it's a neat st petersburg comfortably told the standings nine points about this guy in town above or of being who they defeated in the people trying to brace from strike i mean something difficult helpings a need to suniel victory was the first on the rebound after constantine's it out of shot there and he is second to sixty five minutes the most go by chamonix cross that's have a. russian international striker. formula one now and red bull's mark webber is the new driver's championship lead the all see taking over from lewis hamilton off the dimon eighteen sundays gary and grand prix in budapest weber's teammates of boston but now maintained and their lead for a pro position for ariz fernando alonso meanwhile providing

a tough challenge for the australian ultimately taking advantage of the towels drive for a penalty and holding out for a pit stop as he built to. this strategy alex mcleish paying dividends with thirty three year old now in the driver's seat at the top of the standings loans as fair as pursuit earned him second place while the towel finished third and russia's big valley picked off was just behind set out is surely must some. over the european athletics championships in barcelona russia that he suffered on off to the bronze in the man's marathon while the gold went to switzerland and also then then made the size of move up that's when two five. player old frenchman james tierney and then held on to complain that this turns into hours fifteen minutes and thirty one seconds two minutes and one thousand seconds ahead a favorite. martina's with russia suffer on a finishing twenty six seconds behind. now on the european golf.

stole the irish open title from home favorite harrington on the final day of action harrington had to settle for second spot two strokes behind goes way back he closed down with a seven on the par sixty four and why a share is delayed but fisher responded each time to earn five hundred thousand euros by two strokes with a final round of sixty five and with the school's european to victory the twenty nine year old now moves from. six in the ryder cup grapes a little rising to the work force which made while all the ladies tennis too honest . in an old russian singles final. in istanbul nineteen year olds taking a more experienced compadre it to me three sets and eventually winning it's all five seven seven five and six fooled obviously disappointments obviously in the office of liberated her twenty fourth birthday on sunday while her appropriate chunk of why it's

a second title this season she was also not import to rein back in march. and let's have stateside to los angeles now for more from the sixteenth edition of the game's most. very swirls and have a thousand holding their breath for a terrible accident in yesterday's past three competition terrace however expecting forward covering for the man who suffered a concussion and several following this. there is meanwhile a story of the crowds in the band makes for a style before there is a third title to this two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight trophies this pipe inspired the photos from his main rival davis. there and check were also victorious on the day and become position in the board stream commands final then merican posting a score of ninety two off to being the third man out on the course that proved to be the winning score as the twenty year old added another gold to his two thousand

and three and two thousand and eight titles. antenor another participant adding a gold in his previous igs games tally in this super rally now the television host holding all brian deegan who is one of the most decorated participants ever battles and house competed in multiple disciplines at the games but was unable to match fruits. adding another still but that was with sammy grabbing rowland's. and finally rushes three ball team reclaimed the trophy they lost to ukraine last beating is still many in the final of the falls and open as me there was a book reports now. bad weather is a common problem for us to a bowl organizers in moscow cold hard win and poor and we intend to show up at the least appropriate moment that certainly wasn't the case at the annual nascar waltz which attracted the bravest number of participants and spectators in his four year

history. the temperature dropped to just thirty two celsius from thirty seven the previous day making nearly perfect playing conditions team russia had a lot to prove after losing their title from two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight to korea and last year and after hanging on to the he still being the best of three series on friday the host made the quarterfinals teen daughters had an ace up their sleeve center and it sounds that he was intending to withdraw our team tall and win one twenty kilograms but question is overall skill set along with a solid game plan and execution were too much for miller was to handle and the same the final against italy was even an easier ride as point guard nicole didn't or was on fire from long range whatever the player who emerged at the fan favorite didn't represent the home crowd he was team romania's experienced leader with a beautiful wedding named paul i'm still count on a crusty he's korean and combined with an unparalleled passion and killer instinct

on the floor made him the star of the tournament the spider man is heartbreaking loss to italy and the third plays given showing that really you know we fell into a rhythm but it brought to me that we didn't make anything we were trying we were trying to go where no agreed to bottom part of the three ball but they're going right to the finally was time for what usually is the most exciting part of it all the slam dunk contest which soon turned into a two man showdown between local high flyer looks on the show again and what i look of the serbian team and even though the serb had the most spectacular donk of all the hometown boy was more consistent and left home with the title at fourteen russia their final against dystonia wasn't predicted. tougher contests than the previous ones but once again smart play and taken advantage of the mismatches got the job done for the hosts eighteen thirteen watch of the final score with a lot of sound of named the tournament m.v.p. trophy home for the third time in four years the media was before

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inferno was caused by a record heat wave all to sarah ferguson the vote on his region said to be the worst affected. for our nation is being hit very very hard the last couple of days by these fires that we say at the moment the emergency services say the situation head has gotten under control but what we know is that there's still a huge amounts of fires burning throughout russia and that's where depraving a struggle to get under control in the last twenty four hours around one hundred thirty five new fires that breaking out in the most cave region so really a huge huge strain on emergency services and we've heard the russian military have been quoted to help get control and also a huge amount of volunteers have been needed as well now you can actually probably see behind me some of the devastation that this fire has cools this is left thousands of people across russia and we went to meet one of the families to find out how that taping with the situation.