this war is a lost cause and yet they're surging tens of thousands more troops because they the leaders don't want to take responsibility for a defeat in afghanistan just like nixon did not want to take responsibility for what he knew was a military setback in vietnam i know that's a current argument that the us military may have leaked this in order to blame pakistan or to blame others i don't think that's really what's going on i think that there are voices within the u.s. military just as there were doing in vietnam who have become disillusioned with the war and are releasing these documents to paint a picture that tells something quite different from the official version with the hope that the american people will as they did during vietnam become opponents of the war and help change the policy i understand the point of view of the pakistani government because the americans are blaming pakistan for every setback and putting them and credible pressure at the very same time they use drone airplanes to go and

kill pakistani civilians as if it doesn't matter as if they have every right to do it but i don't think that's what really motivated the leakers the whistleblowers who generated this cache of documents i think it's because they want the world and what motivated these whistleblowers well i think that people are skeptical now and no longer trust in their government and they believe that the people have been lied to as we were lied to in iraq when there was no weapons of mass destruction we were lied to about the real purpose of the war in afghanistan where we are nine years later after the start of the afghanistan we're a war that seems endless a war that has no discernible outcome what's the victory defined as and so you see a cynicism and skepticism developing within the military within the enlisted officials there are now pumping documents out just as daniel ellsberg put out the pentagon papers from within the pentagon in one thousand nine hundred ninety he had turned against the war many people said that these dock. you know constitute

anything all the information out there was already known to the public was already known to the administration what do you say to that is that well it's true and not true because of course the administration knew that they were losing the war and the and the documents paint that picture so in one sense that's true but there's something very strange and hypocritical about the pronouncements that this is nothing new if you went back in one thousand nine hundred seventy and look at the new york times coverage of the pentagon papers which also use classified documents to tell the story of vietnam the pentagon in the media said the same thing oh this is old news this is old news nothing relevant here they said the same thing during the pentagon papers but what was new was that the american people were learning about it for the first time and that's what's new that's what makes it a catalyst for antiwar opposition are you saying that this war in afghanistan is an winnable that's what these documents are saying in its broadest context these documents prove that the war in afghanistan cannot be won and that the leaders of

the u.s. government know that it cannot be won but they don't want to tell the american people the truth because they don't want to take responsibility they don't want to have it be known in history that on our watch obama or patrol is that we lost we the great united states lost the war against an armed insurgency in afghanistan previously for wiki leaks also in iraq didn't really have any impact on u.s. strategy in iraq or anything in iraq what do you believe that this might have any impact on the u.s. strategy in afghanistan i think the documents by themselves really is just as like you mentioned the release of that terrible assault on the reuters news reporter and other iraqi civilians in april two thousand some people who were murdered in cold blood that created a stir for a little while in the united states but the mass media the corporate media downplayed it this could just be a blip and not a big deal it really depends on what the police. forces inside the united states do

with this new information the white house wants to make it go away say it's not a big story no big deal but it's up to other people goes and there's a growing number of them who oppose the war in afghanistan to grab hold of these documents and say to the american people why are we spending a billion dollars a billion dollars every two or three days for a war without purpose what kind of fact will they have on the u.s. relations with both cabaletta in islamabad and their relations between islamabad and capitol well i think there are some forces within the united states military who want to take advantage of the document just as some of the pakistanis have said to put additional pressure on pakistan and they want pakistan to function more or less as a puppet regime of the united states and of course pakistan is a big country a proud people they don't want to be anybody's puppets and so there's going to be a growing tension and a growing clash i think between the united states and pakistan because this circle

cannot be squared pakistan has its own national interests it doesn't want to be a client state for the united states and yet this is what the americans want in terms of kabul i think the karzai government is fundamentally a client regime a puppet government he can only go so far he tries the distance himself from the occupation in order to have any credibility with the afghan people who are against the occupation but he can only do so much he is their puppet what are the options out there for the afghanis and for the pakistanis well i think that ultimately the only solution will be when the afghan people determine their own destiny no one else can shape the outcome for afghanistan for pakistan the people in pakistan with all of the multi-layered political trends and tendencies they too have to be able to be free to chart their own destiny without drone attacks without american intervention without. cia dictating policy to them in

a congressional hearing recently at the at the house of representatives the lower maker something us used we kill leaks as a reference to you not to their speeches and to their information what do these lawmakers have other than what the public have their sad state of affairs in american democracy is that congress the four hundred thirty five members of the house of representatives and one hundred senators the greatest chambers of democracy in the world we are told have really the evolved degenerated into nothing more than a talk shop for politicians who run every two or four or six years perceives that cost millions of dollars of corporate spending in order to get elected and once in office they do very little except talk talk talk congress and only congress according to the us constitution has the right to declare war but they didn't declare war in afghanistan and that sense it's an illegal war only congress has the

right to control the purse strings meaning only congress can allocate money and yet when the pentagon or the white house tell them allocate the money and allow the authorization of an undeclared war to go on and on and on you see the politicians from both parties essential to saying ok do you think after this huge leak there should be an investigation into human rights abuses in afghanistan yes and i think more than an investigation there should be criminal prosecutions in other words the united states lectures the rest of the world and says you must be a country or a government that lives by the rule of law not by people that means no human being is above the law one of us generals us politicians or soldiers and marines on the ground commit crimes carry out acts against civilians like we know they've killed so many civilians in afghanistan and that this is a policy and was apollo. those people from the top not just the little soldiers but

from the top of must be held accountable so there should be a human rights investigation there should also be criminal prosecution an indictment for any acts of war crimes or crimes against humanity how do you think this is affecting the situation in afghanistan this is the mission in pakistan and the situation because of the the united states and the those two countries well i think that the united states is sort of stuck it looked at afghanistan and all of the surrounding former southern republics of the soviet union as a great great piece of pie or a piece of real estate that they could take and make military bases and turkmenistan kurdistan was back to stand afghanistan in other words it would be an american sphere of influence and everybody would have to go along with the new power of the united states in this region but it turned out to be a fantasy because through military occupation instead of dominating the people the

united states by its mere presence with foreign occupation troops has become a catalyst and igniter of armed insurgency against the united states that can only end when the united states leaves and lets the people of these countries in this region be free to determine their own destiny free from foreign occupation thank you very much sir thank you.

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hello and welcome to all see twenty following news line from moscow i mean you know with the latest news and a review of the week's events almost a quarter of a million people have been mobilized across russia to taco raging wildfires have been at least said to deaths well over two thousand have been left homeless by the summoner's caused by a record heat wave. is in the byronic region said to be the worst affected. is being hit very very hot the last couple of days by these fires that we say at the moment the emergency services as the situation here has been gotten under control but what we know is that there's still a huge amounts of fires burning throughout russia and that's really proving a struggle to get under control in the last twenty four hours around one hundred thirty five new fires have broken out in the most a region so really a huge huge strain on emergency services and we've heard the russian military have been quoted to help get control and also a huge amount of volunteers.