he served in the. security organizations starting. to director of the federal security service through. the administration of the russian president to the russian president in two thousand and eight he became the head of the russian federal drug control service during one of conferences he said that there are more than twenty four thousand registered. but the actual number could be. done in order to. thank you very much for coming to our program. growth of drug production in afghanistan when did it begin. or perhaps even the solve it one.

after the spirit. of the soviet troops. one government. first there was. then there was. no. old those changes were violent. that prompted some. but history shows that drug production usually follows military and political. participated in the military actions in afghanistan in the eighty's. today's american methods. clues are more effective do you think it's

because frankly i didn't participate in the military actions directly but you could observe them right. i was an h.r. advisor but i certainly had an opportunity to see the way you have gained. the way in the past for military operations and military achievements. i would make a distinction here because the us and nato led international security assistance force. as a mandate of the u.n. security council. as of the war on terror. the often say today that this is no longer a war against terrorists so unfortunately we do more and more becomes a war against insurgents. he actually saw troops were also blamed for this fighting insurgents rather than

establishing order yes there were such millions to. in your opinion what is the most efficient way of fighting drugs. say in again is ten plain physical eradication the reason i'm asking is because i recall that monsoonal bay area. with the head of security forces in a big region and he said it's impossible to do away with drugs of people cultivate them it's practically impossible as soon as the communist rule was over and free market and became a new reality right away pharmacy poppy everywhere if we cut down their poppy their families would die so there's nothing we can do for them is the situation similar in afghanistan. you know there are many many. illegal drug trade on the one hand and non-medical use of drugs on the other he put it there should be easier to pass with some of the same thing. it's necessary to reduce the amount of

publicity on the market and at the same time the demand for drugs should also be diminished among the population so these approaches have more recorded in three so-called anti-drug conventions doctored by the us as if you know if they are. one of the priorities in this struggle is already crops which can be used for production but. as a matter of fact this political priority was set at the un general assembly session in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight somebody said and it was confirmed in two thousand and nine they should do so when the general assembly had been considering the work of the un commission on narcotic drugs. unfortunately afghanistan is extremely ineffective eradication of crops used for it to run production and there are no results there are less than three percent of all the drugs on t. shirts are destroyed. compare this with colombia where both seventy

percent of drug plantations are destroyed annually at the seat of these totally different social if you will in fact russia is not only a transit zone for drugs in recent years russia has become the largest market for afghan heroin spotlights you know in the me there were reports. again this is. producer ninety two percent of global opium poppy is cultivated here his market is very good at sixty five be. involved fifty million addicts which one hundred thousand die each year. to be haunted by the florida drop trade to the federal drug control service one hundred eighty have been drug cartels have been busy traffic in all its. the russian federation truck control officials point

out that most of the truck business is done and they have provinces that are under the control of coalition forces and they are in the zone over sponsibility in the since the u.s. led incursion began a stand has seen a shop increase in the cultivation the drug has spread through neighboring to don and other central asian countries making neighboring russia particularly vulnerable to last year's huon report no worse than seventy tons of heroin were trafficked to russia in two thousand and eight that's three times more than to the u.s. and canada together the smuggling of it opiates has been few and diction then drug use alone trafficking routes over the last ten years to one particular truck russia skyrocketed. and now claims up to forty thousand lives. if you just said afghans are very slack in fighting against the poppy plantations

and it's hardly possible to eradicate much poppy using just a tweak as we've just seen. but here's another thing those farmers who all feel sorry for their no drug dealers but they just provide for their families because poppy is the most profitable crop to they sell it very cheap to those who produce drugs why don't pharmaceutical companies buy it from them for as they are absolutely right about the financial aspect of the show because they still drugs for making profit. bastions grow a lot. in southern afghanistan and that's where clashes take place and it's no accident. helmand which produces sixty five percent aussie it has always been the richest province. the richest formers live in helmand but it could climatic conditions near. the helmand river and there are. some wonderful

system of irrigation in other words they were needed money they were then wealthiest people and today this province has more drugs than any other place so the financial factor and the need to make a living is not the key here. but probably they became even richer when they started to cultivate poppy. they switched to poppy right but instead of getting richer they became poor deformities who grew up in the economy very little money by the way to prosper off dropped last year it was ninety dollars in two thousand and eight and this year it cost sixty dollars if you mean wrong yes wrong while the price for herring has tripled in afghanistan thus you understand that the main beneficiaries here are not formers but producers know not producers dealers the right is special to those who deal with wholesale trade trafficking dealers.

still i'd like to repeat my question why doesn't government buy this raw opium from pharma as. well the video we just saw says they're against ten producers and sixty five billion dollars worth of drugs what the former see it is merely three hundred to three hundred in a fifty million dollars. that the taliban is set to participate as well. participates only to arm and organize a resistance to foreign troops. into the us senate to meeting on foreign relations this taliban earn seventy two one hundred fifty million dollars which is nearly steer zero point two percent of the overall drug production then who are they the corrupt afghan government is running this business that the afghan government is corrupt and it's not use for anybody by the way at the london conference in afghanistan it was said the level of corruption is extremely high in this country so this means they are. and in drug production. this means some government

officials are involved in drug production and. we've asked general miller can colleagues to provide us with information on those who are pulled in this process both government officials and those who finance this illicit activity and profit from it is a. huge so what do the american say. unfortunately we haven't heard from them yet by the way to washington in september and i met with gil can only call it was a high ranking official in the us administration i give him a list of drug brands which are available in russia one hundred and seventy five brands and this means to around one hundred and seventy five of the border stories in afghanistan producing drugs for russia you. stand in afghanistan so when you started out what about u.s. troops fighting against evil in afghanistan. just by shared nobody it's obvious that insurgency is evil no matter how you call it the right time but what about

drugs law are they evil too. why don't americans fight against drugs well. i believe illicit drug production is absolutely if you will and the entire international community has agreed with it what that considering the amount of drugs produced this problem has gone beyond a ganesan long time ago and that of course there are drugs that are trafficked why the three major. countries he said it's russia europe is another big consumer off its word. to us he comes by the northern route why is he country so central asia and this southern route. and pakistan's you go all across the world by seas says he's head of the russian federal drug control. that shortly we will continue this interview in less

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to pay for the news. how dependent business independent media. and who is behind the t.v. stories. charge a media fiction and reality. welcome back to spotlight i'm l who know of and just a reminder that my guest today is here to evolve as head of the russian federal drug control service. to serve in office we began talking about combating drug trafficking from afghanistan both to europe and russia. and afghanistan itself some of the who do you count on in the north for some help it's a. in this matter and from the americans and their allies who are fighting the will

of the afghan government that is highly corrupted as you well know and say. look at the. or is there no one you can count on there should. we count on setting up a wide anti-drug coalition. that was used isn't there one today in my views our efforts are not coordinated and this is just taken to a really cute drug production of guinness then are insufficient companies also let me clarify this but first of all the international community and the united nations in the first place should consolidate its efforts and acknowledge this disgraceful phenomenon which at the produces twice is more sharing then the whole world did it decade ago but he's avoided this phenomena needs to be classified as

a threat to world peace and security. this is not the competence of the un general assembly this is the competence of the un security council unfortunately so for there has been only discussion no common stance has been worked out and when it is worked out an irrelevant resolution is adopted this will be a major step towards eliminating draws production in afghanistan secondly the world community including the u.s. security council issued and a mandate each national security and stability assistance force once the building can be the arena state it has become a drug manufacturer base and cook with no stability a total of course more so in our view. with a un mandate that has to take an opera sponsibility for afghanistan's future should take care of that. and the mandate should include iraq war meant that the military

force used to destroy production. companies and thirdly at the federal the fish and seal of the international program six consisting of ghana standing competence throughout threats the implementation of these programs is the answer to better security. transparent control of the international community but is that if you get us but for example mr richard holbrooke says the destroying the poppy fields is to expand when you stand inefficient at the mall well there is no way you can be efficient if you are using methods that are clearly inefficient and if you. like using a twig yes there are some very efficient methods like now. as you can see nothing much can be accomplished with a twig as for not home it's something i would hardly recommend of course however we

curd besides our spurred by helicopters and aircraft to destroy plantations in colombia the summer which is the same way you destroy we it's the use a substance called life for say it incidentally many farmers use is to eliminate weeds thomas thomas wife a top official of the u.s. department of state was in charge of trafficking be conscionable politics program for ghana sten he's now retired says he's appointed this would grind of life or so you would have fingers before spring it on the weeds it's good this substance is not that harmful but it can be very efficient in eliminating plantations. i see this by the way to mr ivanov which let's now talk about drugs in russia. as far as i know drug consumption is on the rise in russia. despite the outstanding measures being taken but it should what causes that demand to supply. other afghan

produces and dealers to blame or is it the situation in no country that generates the demand. much more luck turn mark first that the number of drug abusers has not been grown actually. the actual number of people but yes the number of drug consumers practically stabilized scene two thousand or two thousand and one do it all richard it's time growth was basically exponential what about the go through a percent that it's added every year. still the current levels on acceptably high but the most because it's too many people who are english to enjoy going to use a look up at the us that's the first point then there's another thing the composition of drug consumption in russia which differs greatly from so that in europe or in the united states. but the difference is ninety percent of former drug addicted patients use opulence from of ghana stand heroin

first of all and according to the world health organization erin you see most. reparation that causes a severe addiction pathological different mission of the personnel that she invariably leads to death in five or seventy years. in other words russians same as with alcohol prefer strong things at the. u.s. we should admit but sharing consumption in our country is huge for which there are two major causes first there is an external factor of afghanistan being a neighboring country producing an immense amount of narcotics but what you can one hundred in seventy five used those end of the year. which so you think the most important factor is important even the main thing is there is supply right. you cannot produce heroin in russia. as its climatic conditions are not suitable why is

your agency against a methadone treatment which has been adopted in many countries and proved effective russia has categorically against it why. i would question your last statement that it proved effective and there have been no confirmed clinical scientific tests what's more methadone addiction use more severe incidentally heroin intoxication is relieved in d.c. cloris methadone intoxication was forty five days so just said there have been no clinical tests as of yet but they're not sure but then why is methadone use in many countries to treat drug addicts. there is such a therapy what is it based on well it's a new us they have no federal regulation about this. well it varies from state to state right yes it varies from state to state as

a matter of fact it's an experiment in russia we to conduct experiments on hand however our consolidated position is that methadone therapy is inefficient russia i'm sorry i just wanted to say that ukraine belarus and the baltic states approved the use of methadone treatment our colleagues from these countries say the situation there changed for the worse in the number of drug addicts has grown. russia is known for its tough measures when it comes to them. there is much talk about plans to introduce a compulsive treatment of drug addiction as it used to be back in the soviet times . it is also said that compulsive medical examination will be introduced for instance of students is that true are you preparing such measures you know it's not true by the way speaking of tough measures against narcotic trunks we are looking at ford be kind in terms of the toughness. and systemic character of measures taken

against illegal drug trade in this but it was a quantum about all the records. behind who. europe in the united states has grown since school in the united states has been a school activity and anyone who sells something school sir than three hundred feet or so from school are subject to bigger responsibility for the two or three fault lucia even if you mean sells drugs. not necessarily to children just as long as there's still something there russian law serious responsibility stuart's if this was fully aware what he was going to sell it's obviously all the suspects say they were not aware that's where compulsive treatment is and as a head of the agency i can assure you with my full responsibility that we have no such plans it's got it it will lead to positive even your recent campaign against spices. or herbal smoking blends caused quite a stir recently why did you choose to pay such an attention to them what you have

well i have to admit it was not our campaign but i mean this was not launched by the federal drug control service we are trying to work with the public so channel to stage a new campaign but in reported about this problem rooted in our society. spices appeared in our markets no longer became popular it's very quickly our legislation failed to quickly adapt itself to combine listing new horrible smoking blends in long narcotic substances however now this decision has been made and as you may know if on december thirty first a governmental decree was adopted then yes that they just selling off herbal smoke and blends under the threat of their prime and old prosecution would go on as this essentially your respondent to the situation yes you know i must see our thank you to the public journal. well there is having drawn attention to the problem which

should eventually shouts prompt passing of the bills. thank you very much i can only hope you respond promptly to problems in the future because it's common knowledge that swindlers are often faster in their trades than those who combat them. thanks to our systemic approach and political will thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest here in the studio today was the head of the russian federal drug control center and that's the finale for all of us here who will be back with more first time comments on what's going on in an outside rush until then stay on r.t. and take care of.

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