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hello again then welcome to spot a live interview show on r.t. i'll be in all of them today my guess is. there are dozens of indigenous peoples in each of them with its unique culture our guests represent the people living in russia. how difficult is it to preserve their identity in the twenty first century which the common problems people have to face. to.

the vice president al russian association of indigenous peoples of the north in our studio to the. president of the russian association of people. belongs to the small. one and a half thousand people only four hundred of them. able to gauge their native language the situation is similar for many natives who struggle to preserve their ethnic identity there are forty five aboriginal peoples in russia some of them totaling below ten persons by also lindsey is i would guess the spotlight today to talk about life and problems faced by russia's indigenous people's. business hello thank you so much for coming to the program hello so but when speaking about the e.u. to head the first person who comes to everybody's mind in russia you know all over the world they're so used to allies especially after the oscar winning film by

famous japanese director. can you tell us was to add to the intention says in so the most courageous to this kind of today but he is he a hero and a model for them to follow and is it right or not and explaining who you are. you have to mention to use a. dark on your sleeve i think that not only the but for research people also proud of their sue use our law but then you know when he's not invented character when you're for. the great russian explorer our senior. who many of our old men knew personally across at the expediency he was guiding the expedition around the area where i'm from. and that's why i'm sure there were things filmed inserted. true that ship. and what's more important

think that he's a real hero that the gear would look because of the way he conducted himself with regard to the world around him and the people around us worth following me at the premier. i don't even though he was not a hero but a regular unsearched absolutely that's right. before russians and the modern western civilization came to you to russia to have keep your ancestors were. they worship of nature. this editions today yes of course we preserve them so you still follow your own religion but i didn't absolutely. because that's we still have our own religion furthermore rock until you do it i'm not a typical you do because my friends and schoolmates usually want to have to school as soon as classes were over we would go hunting. would be godly if they'd just to shoot. us to shoot you can't rest for me i was reading books though at the time i liked reading along with so when i came back home after

graduating from an institute i started learning the basics that were in suppose hold my culture. and i suddenly found out that my school mates with whom i used to spend so much time. professional hunters and they would follow all the rituals before hunting the does this help or is it just addition. i can give you an example just give us it may seem a bit tragic changes. when you drive from our village there is a hallway or wrong with a small house on top of that you know where we usually blown to dispirit so i am going to. one says we're strangers came to our place and they didn't know the union of this house they were all drunk so they started shooting at the house is that why good old just for fun. no reason to go just to shoot at something.

we told them that they should not do so what could but evidently alcohol and their youth which really dear old later tragedy happened to the children of two of them died but it happened when they went hunting and fishing. and they learned about it when they came back. a lot of them but so i think the recent thing behind these traditions and worshipping. they're not just created for nothing you. see. as far as i know sham and your culture are not only religious figures they're also doctors and weather forecasters and it's really worth really can't see or somebody writes a super are both you and they can really in fact you're asked whether it's because of. what was learned. you know today we have more in medicine for you so we combine these two things to modern medicine and sham and put them

sure that there was such a poet so you know if your village is only a few hundred kilometers away from the bottle sadistical so when someone feels that you can bring one death in there to there is more to hospital in our village to throw you out of course. shermans do not exclude hospitals just like hospitals do not exclude a sham and you know there was a case when a young man was sick but even they could not diagnose that case are awfully usual so they brought him to bloody you felt worse and they sent him back to die at home prior to the move they explained that they could not cure him or give a diagnosis but after your doctors came and saw that he was fine what exactly is the chairman as an educated man can explain what that means to me when he is in psychotherapy in general or did they use him her if there is something else what is it that the child. would support their psychological impact and knowledge of herbs and other things so the name of your course concussions and all that is in general

plus a strong psychotherapy. and what's your attitude towards shamanism in modern western countries. that's never too negative yes well i think it's artificial. that you prefer that's. cheaper from us and the circular just because you know that the more the world is based on. rules we do p.r. again it's only a certain rule is and you had the word for real shams or good people but on the whole thing i don't like it because the risk to many things which are artificial have nothing in common with the reality you see that's why i don't like it. sharon help another person say there is a sick person must go because what if he comes to a village fresh allan's hell can show help in this situation or is it supposed to be somebody from your village they belong to your religion living in your place. people from bloody will do come to our shaman do they keep yes i help. think that.

they would have come. to same time i think there's a psychological element is very strong here when you believe your help your social your believing. the russians came to your area your people were generally hunting and fishing. those were the two major occupation you see the way of life was based on these two activities have preserved your way of life in how this civilization. we have preserved our way of life and about eighty percent who are people who are doing the same things as they used to do. i mean that in the modern world and individual hunter can feed himself by hunting and fishing himself and his family got to meet. can you do it and it's not just dancing there are many other things in the all you can so things you got into you've gone to see first but you'll see sable for years and meet. many other expensive herb's where you know for

example there is a typo fern in our lands which doesn't grow anywhere else so the japanese come to buy it from us. there is a break and well known type of bush well you know we also have another type of fur . and there are three female plants or couple and only female clients are of any value and also is prepared in a certain way and then it's used to release talk scenes which from the body. that's why eat is so valuable she's original to it but the more mature say so those years in medicine yes so there are many things involved who are all more we also have a small sawmill all those things enable us to live not too extravagant bugs to have everything we need gordon says. first rice president of russian association of all

the peoples of all the north spotlight will be back shortly after a break we'll continue this interview stay with us then go. to. the most a team that has been to the kaluga mission where the car industry is rapidly developing. argy goes to the area where the first russian fleet was born. where the indigenous people were the first arctic sees navigator and where russia's glorious history is still visible. welcome leon. russia close up on.

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welcome back to spotlight i will love and just to remind to my guest in the studio today is. that first prize president russian association of indigenous peoples of the north. so. we're all doing that we're doing to merge into one single super civilization probably a chinese one that will absorb all this whole thing groups get out of it was an idea you know i think. put on your prey's or your gloves we always supposed to fight but it was supposed to be a fight between a tribe and a civilized nation basically going to any additional you know i think it's supposed to be a fraud but it's not a divorce not weak against somebody that we're fighting but we're fighting for

someone. in my opinion and every ethnic group should preserve its roots and experience warrant it's important from the viewpoint of diversity. you know people all over the world are trying to preserve that show responsible type of plant or animal in north drew or i think we should do the same for various ethnic groups but. i'm not seeing the one we should do it instead of them and you know what we need to give them a chance what they know what we need to do to make it possible for them to preserve their culture and. the you know there's a theory that if any kind of flies or war against extinct when you get done just going to be an ecological catastrophe that's terrifying so he's absolutely sure that if you miss diallo nothing will happen needs use or not share and indispensable parts of the systems don't you find that curious. most nights yeah yeah you know i don't think so but i'm. my opinion to some extent the

world's tipping followed the development of the european civilization. i mean economic laws are the most important ones and they became more important than the laws of nature should be insidious a bit on this right and i think if the world continues to take this we peak he will lead us into a dead end there are different civilizations you know i think they can suggest a way out so that we can avoid actually a dead end job can be to with a thing that the peoples of the north and your people belong to a different civilization. and of course. in fact i can tell you a story that happened i will be shipping where i come from. this was back in one thousand nine hundred eighty there was an agreement signed by both our territory it was given to the south korean company for three years i show it which and this

company promised to do a lot for us which is what were they supposed to do with the territory forced exploitation and you do in other words they took timber from your area even when they were just doing this territory by adding to the agreement k'naan there were a number of delegations headed by the governor and the vice president of the country company and the automobile company. yes but they do other things as well as a consortium right yes so they offered to build on our territory everything they know in the so-called civilized regions and always roads buildings yanks of the dolls yes but our people rejected it and we said we don't want to. live the way we want which is a war so we are interested in economic development not the price of destroying our nature treasure in unfortunately our way of living that in that time i had to go into politics we. are you sure. the venture of international level.

came to. your mentality a pursuit of the supreme soviet of the russian federation. and i had to come there you know score trying to meet him go it was forbidden for me to meet with him but i talked to deputies going to see him i managed to talk to him and he held up the indigenous peoples of northern russia are facing. how to balance their traditional lifestyles with the coaching temptations and precious of the twenty first century spotlights here the demeter has more. their lifestyles have changed over the last century but it would still be instantly recognizable to their distant ancestors it's a life which still group around reindeer herding hunting and fishing but the resource reaches of the lands they have known for centuries or in increasing demand and

their demand is bringing the concerns and opportunities of the more than world into their lives more than a decade ago the discovery of somehow means or and gas deposits begin to intrude upon the lives of the local population they protested against the big companies and the sun to project for fear of what they thought it may do to their priest in natural environment over time they have become more accepting of the project and are increasingly aware that with environmental concerns being managed the reason the upside for this society in terms of jobs and better living conditions assume the changes and to do lives of two quarts going habitants the advent of number move each russian business magnate and owner of the chelsea football club as regional governor from two thousand to two thousand and eight game with an estimated two and a half billion dollars of investment in housing schools medical facilities and infrastructure much of it from his own pocket he has now resigned as governor by two resource development. remains with the region accounting for

a fifth of russia's gold production industrial development brings more taxes and more jobs at the same time it's forcing the indigenous communities to adopt a contemporary way of life and the balance between the time when the customs of their ancestors to the needs. of the wooden world. you saw the video. mentioned your concept. can you tell us the indigenous peoples of the north to really have to fight against civilizations see the scenes as it really puts pressure on you from all sides. so unfortunately you have to fight quite often. i just feel that was the situation did they stop it me here as they did shuster when they stopped at all. and. i mean all the rights for our consequence belong to us yes for these conflicts. i can tell

you from the history of my people. for instance she was the nineteen seventies they were the gate ethnic groups you did hear now there were only four let. it happen because tiger. people had to move to join other ethnic groups. in when we were trying to negotiate all these situations. are will never suit could be negotiating so he will go with any manufacturer order because we are in tag innocence but we will never reach an agreement of the go and know you have a sawmill industry too albeit a small facility it's a different thing. but you won't be able to destroy your own forest with it.

but it depends on how you use it came in much the same good volume so far facilities are small you won't do much with it. two thousand and one i was among the first to sign an agreement with one of the biggest pokemon companies in the far east because i think that compromises are indispensable and we managed to reach a compromise but we agreed that if a part of our territory it was queuing for and so forth so i think that compromises are possible and necessary certainly likeness comes to mind between the indigenous peoples of the north and the american indians they have a big problem with alcohol alcoholism a big problem for antigens equals in russia. which is but it is a very big problem because yes it was said a biological phenomenon that alcohol influences you so much not in the same way as say russians or poles or europeans in addition to social factors which affect other

people see me with us it's also a biological phenomenon. the native peoples don't have the answer to break down alcohol so it destroys you more. just automatically die just did it and it's not decomposed in the body which means that it acts like a drug and that means that after the first dose the body will always need it like heroin to ask again it's a little bit more scientifically proven which they use over a regular year and drinks a glass of wine every day and feels fine. for one of your people it's not like they're taking an dose of heroin every day sadly he so how do you fight it is it possible to fight it the laws are cross the country and you can't adopt your own laws. you know in fact our association proposed a bill to the federation council and actually they supported it in the clothes we proposed introducing profit bishan for. areas where indigenous people live we

thought that was very important but the economic green the government told us. done because it bursts through its competition and it's a violation all for economic principles and so forth we're going to do that when i was arguing with them i said it was going to take the most developed or initial of the market economies only the united states they introduced brought in some places in alaska. to bring down the whole there prohibited to sell alcohol in there so i don't know exactly because of that raised by democracy markets and freedom the way they're not afraid to enter this restriction to get this which look seven candidates to you and in the united states so you mean to say that indigenous people have similar problems i mean the russian for annoyance. force and so there are a lot of color crawlers they have to fight of course and there's something to learn from each other history many things we can learn from them going and then they

learn from us so for example. for examples in a number of russians retransfer very few unfortunately unless there are laws similar to the international laws. people's rights for example. peoples are represented by locals or parliaments and governments they participate in decision making which considers theory a future when there are other things i can give you your mall as an example but the among his huge deposits of natural gas gas promise near another companies but at the same time the top rate with indigenous peoples and their needs for. specialists but thank you very much for being with us just a reminder that my guest in the studio today was. the first vice president. of indigenous peoples are that's it for now from all of us here will be back. so

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