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using people in india as human guinea pigs as the number who trials in the country soars. newly declassified documents reveal. the u.s. media a. policy in the middle east. the u.s. withdrawal of combat troops from iraq ahead of president obama's deadline but critics say nothing will change in the country. and the true pioneers fifty years since. became the first living creatures to survive space travel paving the way for future exploration. coming up next our interview show spotlight with his guest today is a representative of one of the indigenous peoples of russia discussing the difficulties of preserving their identity in the twenty first century.
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extracting black gold is dangerous. demand pushes the limits to catastrophe. is the price too high. is it possible to prevent such disasters. and can the off the mouth be dealt with quickly and effectively. oil spills and thrills. hello again then welcome to spot a live interview show on our take i'll do you know then today my guest says.
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there are dozens of indigenous peoples in each of them with its unique culture our guest represents the people living in russia. how difficult is it to preserve their identity in the twenty first century in which the common problems people have to face to answer these questions and we have for the vice president alva russian association of indigenous peoples of the north in our studio to the. president of the russian association of northern people. belongs to the small. to begin with russia's far east and count about one and a half thousand people yet only four hundred of them. which the situation is similar. to preserve the ethnic identity there are forty five of original peoples
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in russia. some of them totaling below ten persons by also lindsey is i would guess the spotlight today to talk about life and problems faced by russia's indigenous peoples. is that the hello thank you so much for coming to our program hello. when speaking about the e.u. to head the first person who comes to everybody's mind in russia and all over the world they're so used. to the oscar winning film by themis japanese director. who can you tell us what's the attitude of the indigenous says in so the most courageous to this kind of today but he is he a hero and a model for them to follow as they try to explaining who you are. you have to mention those who use their souls. dark on your show you think that not only the but for research people also proud of their sue use all of that then you know
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when he's not invented the character in your village at the risk you see great russian explorer our senior. who many of our old men knew personally across at the expedience where he was guarding an expedition around the area where i'm from. and that's why i'm sure there were things filmed inserted. true that ship shows up here so just shoot me and what's more important ha i think that he's a real hero but you would look what he does and the way he conducted himself with regard to the world around him and the people around him he's worth following me at the premier league i don't even though he was not a hero but a regular controversial absolutely that's right. before russians and the modern western civilization came to you to russia to have keep your ancestors were shannons and they worship of nature it's this edition today yes of course we preserve them so you still follow your own religion but it is absolutely why. we
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still have our own religion him furthermore rock until you do it i'm not the typical you do because my friends and schoolmates usually want to have to school as soon as classes moreover we would go consing. be guarded if they go just to shoot. us to shoot you can't i yeah i guess for me i was reading books though at the time i liked reading along with incivil so when i came back home after graduating from initial to you i started learning the basics that weren't supposed my culture. and i suddenly found out that my school mates with whom i used to spend so much time. professional hunters and they would follow all the rituals before hunting any of that though does this help or is it just sedition. i can give you an example just give us it may seem a bit tragic changes. when you drive from our village there is
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a hallway or wrong with a small house on top of that's. where we usually blown to dispirit so i am going to . one says we're strangers came to our place and they didn't know you know this house but they were all drunk so they started shooting at the house. just for fun. no reason to go just to shoot at something. we told them that they should not do so. but evidently alcohol and their youth which will aid yeah later a tragedy happened to the children of two of them died but it happened when they went hunting and fishing. and they learned about it when they came back the. lot of them but so i think there is something behind these traditions and worshipping. they're not just created for nothing. as far as i know
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sherman's and your culture are not only religious figures they're also doctors and weather forecasters and it's really worth really can't see or somebody writes super are both here and you see in that what would a can really in fact are a test whether it's because of. what was learned to. you know to do we have more than medicine to do so we combine these two things to modern medicine and sham and so we put them sure that there was such a poet so you know your village is only a few hundred kilometers away from the bot of sadistical so when someone feels that you can bring one death in there to there is more to hospital in our village to throw you out of course. shamans do not exclude hospitals just like hospitals do not exclude a sham and you know there was a case when a young man was sick but even they could not diagnose the keys are roughly usual so they brought him to bloody you felt worse and they sent him back to die at home
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a part of the movie explained that they could not cure him or give a diagnosis but he went after your doctor scheme and saw that he was far away what exactly is the chairman as an educated man can explain what that means to me even if he is in psychotherapy in general or did they use him her if there is something else what is it that the child. is not well it's both a psychological impact and knowledge of herbes and other things so the speedo for your course concussions and all that is in general plus a strong psychotherapy. and what's your attitude towards shamanism in modern western countries. that's never too negative and yes i think it's artificial. that you prefer that's. cheaper from us and the circle just because you know that the modern world is based on certain rules we do p.r. again it's only a certain rules and you had heard for real shams or good people but on the whole
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but i don't like it because. things which are artificial have nothing in common with the reality that's why i don't like it our challenge help another person say there is a sick person moscow because what if he comes to a village first talents help you can share and help in this situation or is it supposed to be somebody from your village they belong to your religion living in your place. people from bloody will say talk do you come to our shaman do they yes i help them. think that. they would have come. to same time i think there's a psychological element is very strong here when you believe your help your social you are believing. the russians came to your area your people were generally hunting and fishing. those were the two major occupations the way of life was based on these two activities have preserved your way of life you know how this civilization influence that. we have preserved our way of life and about eighty
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percent who are people who are doing the same things they used to do. i mean that in the modern world and individual hunter can feed himself by hunting and fishing himself and his family. can do that and it's not just consing there are many other things in the wall you can sow things you've got until you've gone to sea first but you'll see sable for years and meet. many other expensive herb's where you know for example there is a type of fern in our lands which doesn't grow anywhere else so the japanese come to buy it from us. there is breaking up out of well known type of bush well you know we also have another type of fur forms. and. female plants in only female plants are of any value and also it's
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a pretty. period in a certain way and then it's used to release talk scenes which from the body. that's why it is so valuable to you put them all those years in medicine yes so there are many things involved as there are almost we also have a small sawmill all those things enable us to live not too extravagant to have everything when he says private first device president russian association. peoples all the noise spotlight will be back shortly after a break we'll continue this interview so stay with us don't go.
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to the coast of kenya has been to the kaluga metion where the car industry is rapidly developing. if not all argee goes to the area where the first russian fleet was born. where the indigenous people were the first arctic seas navigator and where russia's glorious history is still visible. on the. russia close up. side to join the military because i thought that it was my duty that it was something that i do to help my country. my government that it is necessary for america to vietnam there was a lot of drug abuse. there was
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a lot of murder of american officers and by american soldiers there were a lot of. money. to go out. before the war i always thought i wanted to win a lot of medals and to have a lot of desperation. but afterwards i realize that they don't mean anything they're not that important. i don't i don't i never kept the medal. welcome back to spotlight we're not just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is. the first prize president russian association out and just peoples of the north. so bottle that you could share what
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we're all doing that we're doing to merge into one to shoot single super civilization probably a chinese one that will absorb all this gold it's as i think groups you know kid out of it was an idea you know i think loose woman. but then you praise or you're closely always supposed to fight but it is supposed to be a fight between a tribe and a civilized nation basically going to any additional you have the additional no i think it's supposed to be a fraud but that's not the goal is not we to gain somebody that we're fighting solution but we are fighting for someone who should kick their tradition in my opinion every ethnic group should preserve its roots and it's here important it's important from the viewpoint of diversity. you know that people all over the world are trying to preserve that she's showing a responsible type of planting a communal or an animal in north drew or i think we should do the same for various ethnic groups you go to i'm not seeing so when we should do it instead of them and
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you know what we need to give them a. chance. to make it possible for them to preserve their culture. you know there's a theory that any kind of fly or against extinct when you get down just going to be an ecological catastrophe so he's absolutely sure. nothing bad will happen nieve humans are not sure and then dispensable parts of the system don't you find that curious. yeah yeah you do you know i don't think so but. in my opinion to some extent the world champion followed the development of the european civilization. i mean economic laws are the most important ones and they became more important than the laws of nature principia to put on this right you know i think if the world continues to go this way it will lead us into a dead end where there are different solicitations you know i think they can
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suggest a way out so that we cannot avoid actually a dead end job can you petey with i would think that the peoples of the north and your people belong to a different civilization. on the brink of course. in fact i can tell you a story that happened. and where i come from. this was back in ninety eight. there was an agreement signed by both territory it was given to the south korean company for three years i show it which and this company promised to do a lot for us which is what were they supposed to do with the territory forest exploitation and you do in other words they took timber from your area as if you mean they were just doing this territory by adding to the agreement going on there were a number of delegations headed by the governor and the vice president of a hundred company in the automobile company. yes but they do other things as well and it's a consortium right yes so they offered to build on our twitter. everything they
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know in the so-called civilized regions. roads buildings yanks dollops yes but our people rejected it when we said we don't want to. live the way we want . wars we're interested in economic development not at the price of destroying our nature. unfortunately our way of living but at that time i had to go into politics. when are you sure of the venture of international level. came to us today mother said he was also then so sure many of the appreciate the supreme soviet of the russian federation. and i had to come there in its core trying to meet him go it was forbidden for me to meet with him but i talked to diffuse into every new to him i managed to talk to him and he held up the indigenous peoples of northern russia facing. how to balance their traditional
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lifestyles with the and coaching temptations and precious of the twenty first century spotlights here the demeter has more. their lifestyles have changed over the last century but it would still be instantly recognizable to their distant ancestors it's a laugh which student slides to iran drained via her hunting and fishing but their resource reaches of the lands they have known for centuries i mean increasing demand and the demand is bringing the concerns and opportunities of the morning world into their lives more than a decade ago the discovery of somehow means or land gas deposits began to intrude upon the lives of the local population they protested against the big companies and the sun to project for fear of what they thought it may do to their priest in natural environment over time they have become more accepting of the project and they're increasingly aware that with environmental concerns being managed there is
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. an upside to this society in terms of jobs and better living conditions assuming the changes and to do lives of two quotes going habitants the advent of number move each russian business magnate and owner of the chelsea football club as regional government from two thousand to two thousand and eight game with an estimated two and a half billion dollars of investment in housing schools medical facilities and infrastructure much of it from his own pocket he has now resigned as governor but to resource development remains with the region accounting for a fifth of russia's gold production industrial development means more texas and more jobs at the same time it's forcing the indigenous communities to adopt a contemporary way of life and the balance between the time when the customs of the ancestors with the needs and temptations of the wooden world. you saw the video. mention. can you tell us the
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indigenous peoples of the north really have to fight against civilization see these things as it really puts pressure on you from all sides. so unfortunately what you have to fight quite often. is the situation did they stop it me here they did show us that when they stopped at all. and. i mean all the rights for our belong to us yes for these conflicts. i can tell you from the history of mark people. for instance she by the nineteen seventies they were at the gate ethnic groups here now there were only four let. it happen because. people had to move to join other ethnic groups. in when we were trauma. to negotiate all these situations.
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are will never suit could be negotiating with any manufacturer will be the order because we are in tag innocence but we will never reach an agreement killing the go any i'm sure you have a sawmill industry too albeit a small facility i know it's a different thing in that sense. but you won't be able to destroy your own forest with it. but it depends on how you use it came in much the same to volume so far facilities are small you won't do much with it. two thousand and one i was among the first to sign an agreement with one of the biggest paul companies in the far east that comports because i think that compromises are indispensable so and we managed to reach a compromise but we agreed that if a part of our territory it was giving for cutting and so forth so i think that
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compromises are possible and necessary certainly likeness comes to mind between the indigenous peoples of the north and the american indians they have a big problem with alcohol alcoholism a big problem for antigens peoples in russia. which is but it is a very big problem because yes what's says it a biological phenomenon that alcohol influences you so much not in the same way as say russians or poles or europeans but yes in addition to social factors which affect other people see me with us it's also a biological phenomenon. the native peoples don't have the end signs to break down alcohol is so it destroys the more yes it's just not medically digested initially it's not decomposed in the body which means that it acts like a drug and that means that after the first dose the body will always need it so it's like heroin to you again it's
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a little bit more scientifically proven which. a regular your drinks a glass of wine every day and feels fine. for one of your people it's like they got to take an dose of heroin every day exactly the cuts so how do you fight it as a possible to fight it. cross the country and you can't adopt your own laws. you know in fact our association proposed the bill as it were the federation council. actually they supported it in the hold we proposed introducing profit bishan for the new areas where indigenous people live and we thought that was very important but the economic bargain the government told us. john because it bursts through its competition and it's a violation off for economic principles and so forth it would go into effect when i was arguing with them i said it would take the most developed or emission of the market economies of united states they introduced brought in some places in alaska
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. to bring down the whole there is prohibited to sell alcohol in there so i don't know exactly because of that raised by democracy markets and freedom the way they're not afraid to enter this restriction to get the switch like that in canada to you and in the united states i did so you mean to say that indigenous people have similar problems i mean the russian foreign oil. course and so there are a lot of come across as they have to fight of course and there is something to learn from each other history many things we can learn from them going and then they learn from us so for example. for examples in a number of russians regions very few unfortunately there are laws similar to international laws. people's rights for example. peoples are represented by the locals or parliaments and governments they participate in decision making which considers theory a future when there are other things i can give you your mall as an example. but
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the among his huge deposits of natural gas for where gas promise near another companies but at the same time he had them the top rate was indigenous people send their needs for. specialists but still mostly thank you very much for being with us just a reminder that my guest in the studio today was. first vice president. indigenous peoples are that's it for now from all of us here will be back until then stay heartache and taking. a sip. and says tang division. new armaments. four months of
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preparation. the pay failures still haunts their mind. the last effort to keep the lead on the eastern front and. lead citadel of funds to go. raid so stupid long had a great sacrifice of luck. and the rooms are still healing. from advantage of the military part of. the most heavily reinforced area. of the battle of course. and lasted forty nine days one of them bloodiest battles and the turning point a move to push the burning.
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