it's time for headlines now paradox of what lies beneath the u.s. administration goes to great lengths to get its hands on the alleged russian almost a week to week to see the limits of international norms the machines urgent extradition. big apple of discord plans to build a mosque near ground zero in new york a split opinion some saying that issues just a way of drawing attention to america's economic struggle. prints the self-proclaimed oil seeks to evict the russian president from the kremlin saying it's his goal given right to rule the country. but since the birth of the idea in ancient greece democracy has undergone many changes in definition but is still essential for politics and peace that's according to historian and

theorist john donne who spoke with. in london. democracy originally meant that it's the people who hold the power and exercise you say that sometimes that's a thumping could you elaborate on that well it's not what we have today because very obviously i didn't rule the united kingdom and you don't rule the united kingdom and. so you could argue about how many people do it but certainly not very many people in the very definitely on most of this is and in athens the systems weren't a very large proportion of the population but they did take all the better public decisions and there went to very many people who were chosen to exercise special power it was very i knew more that the the military leaders elected

and that was seen as a rather undemocratic practice but is this the necessary because in a war you want to be quite sure that you were led by the people who are most likely to lead you to victory do you think that democracy as it exists today has changed for better or who us. is is a greek word for naming that particular set of brake arrangements a long time ago and there's arrangements essentially disappeared to an all thousand years ago roughly a little bit less. and they didn't really they hadn't ever really reappeared except on a very small scale and they don't have much to do with the way in which any modern state is gulf states much bigger. and they are they're gotten through complicated public iraq recess and the governing body relatively small numbers of in a sense professional politicians. and that's a that is a very different structure and it's ridiculous to describe that as rude by the

people. in today's west democracy has become the only acceptable for government how did. well it's essentially happened because the. two principal competitors to us and western history monitor and aristocracy collapsed in the course of the nineteenth and twentieth century and what we now call democracy is what was left instead which involves all the citizens almost all citizens. in the east of notional form in the way the power is actually held which involves them very very sporadically and pretty feebly i think one could say do you think democracy can be used to cover our. political system well i think it always is i mean that is in a way the main point i want to make i mean this is democracy is both the name of

a form of government not very clearly defined form of government and a political pretension or party political claim which is that a form of government is actually authorized by the people of the very very great majority of states in the world. governments which claim to be authorised by the people at large but if you ask how the people actually do their authorizing the answer is they have a very very small bit poff they intervene in some countries barely at all and in any countries only every few years and they're very briefly and in a way which gives the mix stream little control over the outcome. of the us had a profound effect on democracy could you describe that roughly speaking since the end of the second world war the united states has definitely been a theory opinion that the rest of the world should be governed in much the same way

as it was government has been much the most part. four states in the world over that period of time and it's insisted with a very very very and coercive inus on the merits of its way of its approach to governing bodies to other peoples and obviously. for a long period of time between shortly after the end of the second world war and the collapse of the soviet union it was a century in a global power struggle with a completely different way of organizing and both of which i mean called themselves democracy a base of which had some grounds for calling themselves democracy and neither of which on the time offering have very strong grounds for calling themselves democracy because that isn't what democracy meant. to us first and democracy it's station. in the islamic world most unhealthy last america is sponsoring

insurgency posco twenty first century democracy the united states has no particular insight into most of the rest of the world and it's had for a long time a very considerable set up with paro for any other potential competitor newt has got it. very considerable overconfidence about its capacity to judge what's good and bad for other countries and all the stay under the. george w. bush presidency it interferes a lot in other parts of the world on the basis of that judgment in a very indiscreet way and yet that seems how democracy see isn't it nowadays in this sort of evangelical way george w. bush sells said democracy was the best weapon in fighting terrorism what did you think when he said no i thought he was a fool. when you thought he was a fool and the people behind him were knaves if you see what i mean i mean that

claim was made in defense of. very forward military and political policy on the united states of the united states in various parts of the world and that policy has not proved at all wise and it was inherently objectionable in some respects. no decent motives behind the tool but there were a lot of not very decent letters behind it and it was a very stupid policy will have. to really regimes in basic iraq and afghanistan for self the priestesses democratization the process of democratization you could say is progress towards a very good outcome which hasn't actually come out anywhere in the world so if you have an ambitious can step short of democratization what those two experiences taken together of tortoise is that it's absolutely hopeless to try to move fausta in the direction of that time and by bombing countries pieces

and invading them. without bothering to inform yourself about what was you know. the views and beliefs and practices of most of their inhabitants. i mean either iraq under saddam hussein very horrible monday nor. no afghanistan which isn't really under any one ever. told promising candidates for rapid democratization it isn't possible to democratize anywhere by bombing it in invading it do you think that democracy is in essence compatible with. me. yes i do i think it's quite likely this in the longer run. any islamic country which is really successful economically will. flourish culturally and will end up insisting on something much more like what we call democracy as its

governmental system but it won't be able to do so rapidly and there's a lot of stuff in the way i don't think it's true for example that iran couldn't be what we call a democracy it was the truth in your sense majority of them who are moving in that direction and be assisted to do so by being molested from the outside you hold introducing democracy into the democratic side she sells really has the next facts because it's playing out where it depends on how you do the introducing a bit i mean you could say in a way. in the very long run britain introduce democracy into india. but it did so jolly slowly. the absolutely crucial point is that at the point that it introduced democracy it withdrew briskly. the indians. got on with this in their way. the results of the sparks the biggest democracy in

the world in our understanding of. all that it has pretty alarming characteristics in many ways it's been a triumphant success and yet secretly pessimistic about the ability of democracy to bring peace to the middle east well i do think that the middle east is. not the sort of place where democracy is going to assist peace fausta. i mean it is a very important fact that the. the mayster peace of this group amongst the palestinians won the elections in gaza or and they won the elections in gaza because more of the population of gaza agreed with their vision of what was going on and what it meant than with that of their opponents and i think that. i mean israel anyway. within the jewish population i mean has been a democracy since it became

a state but it hasn't become much more specific as a result of being a democracy and it's. started off in a very bad place and. it's not a too clear to me i can get back from that position but it is clear to me that democracy is a relevant. general thank you very much. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

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the sport kerry coming up. the happy with this this is sports today i mean these are some of the stories we're covering this hour ready to inspire and that's the motto russian football fans hope will be seen a run the globe as the race the host of world cup twenty fifteen picks up pace. army men march on sask in moscow ease into the europa league group stages after a six one win over unorthodox it's. on thin ice russian figure skating prince you hear me pushing to is banned from the store to limit games but his team and he will compete in twenty four. more not coming up but we start with football by the end of the year we'll know the hosts for both the twenty eighth and twenty twenty two world cup finals as it stands at russia and england are

considered to be in the driving seat for the near a championship but as robert for daniel reports their bids could be considered chalk and cheese. bidding for the twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two world cups and winning the beat this is what neil and see russia have been doing you know in december the second link people exactly to the committee who vote to say that hosting country's elections will know if this is really the truth and whether these computer models meet during to reality. eleven beats originally submitted twenty eighteen world cup is the most contested in people's history ever put downs and experts in russia assure their country is a strong favorite yeah i badly want to our country to host the world cup it will be a great pleasure for me to be part of events like this but even just a fan it will give russia a significant boost in terms of football infrastructure and economic development.

lucian i should avoid it and i think we have a pretty good chance to weigh in as we always were and when our governments highest officials get involved but are there any bad little wind this contest just like we did with the sochi two thousand and fourteen olympics so young. i hope people will let us host the two thousand and eighteen world cup were backed by gazprom and dick advocaat will help the russian national teams reforms very well just after a thief inspection team visited russia last week we met up with the head of russia's beat committee. he remains cautiously optimistic over the issues i think our chances are very good we are stable among the favorites. and it's not only us who think so because we obviously would like to think this way but it's foreign media which is unanimous in their opinion that russia's strong among the leaders every bit every country that is now running four thousand three hundred forty

thousand when you take place capable of organizing the world that's for sure and i think people will. they're forced to face a whole range of criteria not only. possible. organization hosting. possibilities there are other factors that are also valid. you know actually government support is one of them very very important it's now two individuals that . is the homeland of experts consider as russia's main rival so people meet face a tough dilemma choosing between a skillful an experienced player eagle and even up to date including really infrastructure in the young hope with plenty to all for russia we still need some turn to gain power in this respect the move to russia we shall beat with eighteen world cup which is weighted to inspire speaks for itself it reflects the importance

of legacy the importance of the impact of the world cup not only in our country but also to neighboring countries in the world community in general we are inspired ourself by the organizing and we are ready to transmit this inspiration to the rest of the world by sharing our knowledge by sharing. our football development programs with the rest of the world and that is reflected in our. three months before we made the decision which may mean russia is seven years get ready for inspiring the world not known for a mission like this. robert but you know what. preparations are well underway for the next finals to be held in brazil in two thousand and fourteen but like its predecessor south africa some of the country's major works are a little behind schedule sitting in the shadow of the christ of the redeemer statue rio's iconic maracana stadium will be the venue for the final on july the thirteenth the world famous arena which hosted the one nine hundred fifty decider

was supposed to have been closed all of july for a much needed renovation but it's only now that the two thousand seater is in off grid mode ultimately the m r calif should fit ninety thousand fans building delays in all twelve host cities have been front page news in brazil but the good news is they have almost four years to get off. ok let's stay with football where saskia moscow are through to the group stages of the league after i classing north to six one on our get costs read watch the move up the ranks in the. just as expected says one of the great sage all the europa league army men defeated the north this is from august sixth one on aggregate and the second match in cyprus turned out to be a much tougher affair for the russians as started to great chances right from the get go the super team created at least six opportunities in the first half but the russian defense clearly outclassed on the seas after the first half century he

certainly affected the speed of the game successfully managed to keep the ball in the midfield for the most part of the game but there was no sign of giving up for a north of days as the team continued to create opportunities for the strikers symmetric awful managed to capitalize on one of those opportunities as he opened the score for the cypriots in the seventy fifth minute however says to equalise through their new comer say do and should in international markets this. we want to just a minute before the end of the match so says scott must go are clearly the stronger team in this i told you i don't think this admits that as well into what i've seen but it was the toughest side we ever played against as i said in moscow this is a team that deserves to be in the champions league however on a hostess didn't allow to display their full potential today as we try to control the ball throughout the match and try to always play in the attack. as much as we wanted to focus on the game and here and play with

a serious added to i think the score in the first leg affected the quality of our play the players energy increased only after we conceded a goal but. will know their group stage opponents on friday when the draw will be held in switzerland but for now the team is leaving cyprus to prepare for their next premier league match against a law on cost artsy cyprus. it was a busy night of action champions league qualifying with five teams picking their group stage berths on tuesday serbia is partisan they are into the big time following. underlay bol never give moldavian minnows f.c. sharif sniff taking it for aggregate israel's finest couple well we'll be dreaming about the burn of bio old trafford on the rest after seeing off souls burge red bolt verger left at least to knock out some doria while the biggest shock of the night happened in spain where severe were left licking their wounds after a seven goals thriller with which builds braga. a limp it career looks all

but over the russian figure skating grit being barred indefinitely from international skating union events with no extended to the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in sochi. it all stems from when the twenty seventh will miss the world championships in true in back in march after filing paperwork citing leg injury is reason for the withdrawal however went on to perform in the king's on ice tour with events taking place across the globe in march and april because of this the. eligibility at the end of june was given twenty one days to appeal the verdict which he did not with the bond extended you cannot officially compete in thought cheat but his wife and coach have said he will be fighting for gold there just how this will be arranged. explained the. brings us to medics where caster semenya is back in the spotlight following almost

a year long absence from the truck pending the results of gender tests than one thousand year old south african will compete in her first big event since returning last month the diamond league meets on friday in brussels. it was quite a had to be was a lot of time to spend with my family and friends to my chain but most new to just watch them train use of the it was really good. but you might actually do. it was a little. obscene to me you know it's just. you know it was a big bit. finally phil mickelson is a step away from becoming the world's top ranking golfer lefty can do just up the barclays on thursday the first event of the p.g.a. playoffs despite the recent struggles. on tiger woods mickelson says he expects nothing but the best from his longtime rival i expect him to play well every week so it's more surprising to me what he has a week that isn't up to his usual expectations but. regardless of what what's gone

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