now there it's time for the headlines down here naughty what lies beneath the u.s. administration goes to great lengths to get its hands on the in ledged russian arms to the boot testing the limits of international rule as they push for his urgent extradition. big apple of discord plans to build a mosque near ground zero in new york a split opinion some say issues just a way of drawing attention from america's economic struggle. to go prince a self-proclaimed royal since two of the russian president from the kremlin saying it's his god given right to rule the country. well since the birth of the idea in ancient greece democracy has undergone many changes in definition but it's still essential for politics and peace that's according to historian theorists john donne

who spoke with oughts he's in london. democracy originally meant that it's the people who hold the power and exercise you say that sometimes states mostly that's a thumping could you elaborate on that well it's not what we have today because very obviously i didn't rule the united kingdom and you don't rule the united kingdom and. so you could argue about how many people do it but certainly not very many people who have this and they very definitely all of this is and in athens the systems weren't a very large proportion of the population but they did take all the better public decisions and there went to very many people who were chosen to exercise special power it was very i knew more that the the military leaders were elected

and that was seen as a rather undemocratic practice because of the state necessary because in a war you want to be quite sure that you were led by the people who are most likely to lead you to victory do you think that democracy as it exists today has changed for better or who us first for democracy. is a greek word for naming that particular set of brake arrangements a long time ago and there's arrangements essentially disappeared to and i'll thousand years ago roughly a little bit less and they didn't really they hadn't ever really reappeared except on a very small scale and they don't have much to do with the way in which any modern state is gulf states much bigger. and they are there gotten through complicated public iraq recess and the governing body relatively small numbers of in a sense professional politicians. and that's a that is a very different structure and it's ridiculous to describe it as rude by the people

. in today's western democracy has become the only acceptable for government how to . well it's essentially happened because the. two principal competitors to us and western history. and aristocracy collapsed in the course of the nineteenth and twentieth century and what we now call democracy is what was left instead which involves all the citizens almost all citizens. in the east of notional form in the way the power is actually held which involves them very very sporadically and pretty feebly i think one could say do you think democracy can be used to cover our. school system well i think it always is i mean that is in a way the main point i want to make i mean this is the walker see is both the name

of a form of government not very clearly defined form of government and a political pretension or party political claim which is that a form of government is actually authorized by the people of the very very great majority of states in the world. governments which claim to be authorised by the people but if you ask how the people actually do their authorizing the answer is they have a very very small bit off rate if they intervene in some countries barely at all and in any countries only every few years and very briefly and in a way which gives the mix stream a little control over the outcome near. us had a profound effect on democracy could you describe that roughly speaking since the end of the second world war the united states has definitely been the opinion that the rest of the world should be governed in much the same way as it was government

has been much the most. for stating the world over that period of time and it's insisted with a very investments and very in coercive inus on the merits of its way of its approach to governing to other peoples and obviously a. long period of time between shortly after the end of the second world war and the collapse of the soviet union it was essentially in a global power struggle with a completely different way of organizing and both of which i mean called themselves democracy a base of which had some grounds for accord them selves democracy and neither of which on the time offering have very strong grounds for calling themselves democracy because that isn't what democracy meant. the us version of democracy is good which station. in the islamic world in the same health class america is

sponsoring insurgency. twenty first century democracy the united states has no particular insight into most of the rest of the world and it's for a long time a very considerable set up with power over any other potential competitor newt has to. bury considerable overconfidence about its capacity to judge what's good and bad for other countries and all the stay under the. george w. bush presidency it interferes a lot in other parts of the world on the basis of that judgment in a very indiscreet way and yet that is how democracy see isn't it nowadays in this sort of evangelical way george w. bush sells said democracy was the best weapon in fighting terrorism what did you think when he said yes well i thought he was a fool. when you thought he was a fool and the people behind him were knaves if you see what i mean i mean that

claim was made in defense of. a very forward military and political policy in the united states of the united states in various parts of the world and that policy has not proved wise and it was inherently objectionable in some respects. no decent motives behind the tool but there were a lot of not very decent motives behind it and it was a very stupid policy what will of the regimes in basic iraq and afghanistan force us about the process of democratization the process of democratization you could say is progress towards a very good outcome which hasn't actually come out anywhere in the world so if you have an ambitious can of democratization what those two experiences taken together of tortoise is that it's absolutely hopeless to try to move fausta in the direction of that and by bombing countries to pieces and

invading them. without bothering to inform yourself about what was you know the views and beliefs and practices of most of their inhabitants. i mean either iraq under saddam hussein very horrible monday nor. no afghanistan which isn't really under any one ever. told promising candidates for rapid democratization it isn't possible to democratize anywhere by bombing it in invading it do you think that democracy is in essence compatible with. me. yes i do i think it's quite likely this in the longer run. any islamic country which is really successful economically will. flourish culturally and will end up insisting on something much more like what we call democracy as its

governmental system but it won't be able to do so rapidly and there's a lot of stuff in the way i don't think it's true for example that iran couldn't be what we call a democracy it was the truth in your hands majority of them who are moving in that direction and be assisted to do so by being molested from the outside you hope that introducing democracy into open democratic societies else really has the next facts because it's playing out where it depends on how you do the introducing a bit i mean you could say in a way. in the very long run britain introduce democracy into india. but it did so jolly slowly. and the absolutely crucial point is that at the point that it introduced democracy it withdrew briskly. the indians. got on with this in their way. the results of the spots the biggest democracy in

the world are not understanding of. all that it has pretty alarming characteristics in many ways it's been a triumphant success and here you see clearly pessimistic about the ability of democracy to bring peace to the middle east well i do think that the middle east is not the sort of place where democracy is going to assist peace fausta. i mean it is a very important fact that the. the mayster peace of this group amongst the palestinians won the elections in gaza or and they won the elections in gaza because more of the population of gaza agreed with their vision of what was going on and what it meant than with that of their opponents and i think that. i mean israel with any way. within the jewish population i mean there has been a democracy since it became

a state but it hasn't become much more specific as a result of being a democracy and it's. started off in a very bad place and. it's not a to me it can get back from that position but it is clear to me that democracy is irrelevant. thank you for much of. it. being something.

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know is beneath the u.s. administration goes to great lengths to get its hands on the alleged russian arms to innovate to boot testing the limits of international law as they push for his urgent extradition. big apple of discord plans to build a mosque near ground zero in new york a split opinion has some saying the issues just a way of drawing attention from america's economic struggle. prints the self-proclaimed boyle seeks to evict the russian president from the kremlin saying it's his god given right to rule the country. and union. or. the happy with us this is sports today i'm you know these are some of the stories we're covering this hour ready to inspire and that's the motto russian

football fans hope will be seen a run the globe plus the race to host world cup twenty picks up pace. man march on sask moscow ease into the europa league group stages after a six one win over north texas. on thursday night expression figure skating princess amy fish tank is banned from the such a limited game but his team and he will compete in twenty four days. for not coming up but we start with football by the end of the year we'll know the hosts for both the twenty thousand and twenty twenty two world cup finals as it stands at russia and england are considered to be in the driving seat for the near a championship but as robert for daniel reports there could be considered chalk and cheese. leading to india eighteen and twenty two one in two world cups and winning the big leases would. have been. in december the second

because exactly the committee needs to see the host countries. and there are these computer models you're into reality. to live in beads originally submitted twenty eight thousand world cup is the most contested in people's history ever put downs and exports and worship sure their country is assume. i badly wanted our country to host the world cup it would be a great pleasure for me to be part of events like this even just a fan it will give russia a significant boost in terms of football infrastructure and economic development of your solution i should avoid it i think we have a pretty good chance to weigh in as we always were and when our governments highest officials get involved. i think that little window. qantas just like we did with the sochi two thousand and fourteen olympics. i hope people will let us host the

two thousand and eighteen world cup backed by gazprom and dick advocaat will help the russian national teams reforms very well after a thief inspection team visit to russia last week we met up with the head of russia's committee. he remains cautiously optimistic over the issues i think our chances are very good we are stable among the favorites. and not only us who think so because we obviously would like to think this way but it's foreign media which is unanimous opinion that russia's strong among the leaders every bit every country has because it is now running four thousand three hundred forty thousand twenty three capable organizers for the world that's for sure and i think people will be there to receive a whole range of criteria not only on possible. organization hosting.

possibilities there are other factors that are also valid you know actually government support is one of the very very important one it's now been going to the most the b.b. inspection and it does differ from linda football which experts consider as russia's main rival so people meet face a tough dilemma of choosing between a skillful an experienced player eagle and with an up to date including really infrastructure in the young hopeful we're going to do all for russia we still need some time to gain power in this respect the move to russia we should beat with twenty eighteen world cup which is weighted to inspire speaks for itself it reflects the importance of legacy the importance of the impact of the world cup not only in our country but also to neighboring countries in the world community in general we are inspired ourself by the organizing and we. are ready to transmit the inspiration to the rest of the world by sharing our knowledge by sharing. our

football development programs with the rest of the world and that is reflected in our. three months before the season which is seven years get ready for spring. break with. preparations are well underway for the next finals to be held in brazil in twenty fourteen but like its predecessor south africa some of the country's major works are a little behind schedule sitting in the shadow of the christ of the redeemer statue iconic mark on a stadium will be the venue for the final on july the thirteenth the world famous arena which hosted the one nine hundred fifty decider was supposed to have been closed all of july for a much needed renovation but it's only now that the two thousand seater is in off grid mode ultimately the m r calif should fit ninety thousand. billing delays in all twelve whose cities have been front page news in brazil but the good news is

they have almost four years to get off. ok let's stay with football where cisco moscow are through to the group stages of the europa league after i classing north to six one on our grid get them on cos read watch the army men move up the ranks in the. just as expected says one of the great sage all the europa league the army men defeated the north this is from august sixth one on aggregate and the second match in cyprus turned out to be a much tougher affair for the russians as i don't forsee starting to create chances right from the get go the super team created at least six opportunities in the first half but the russian defense clearly outclassed the northeast so no mail after the first half secured heat certainly affected the speed of the game as say scott successfully managed to keep the ball in the midfield for the most part of the game but there was no sign of giving up for a north of seasons the team continued to create opportunities for the strikers symmetric awful managed to capitalize on one of those opportunities as he opened

the score for the cypriots in the seventy fifth minute however says kumble still managed to equalise through their new cover and say do and should be an international market as scots we want to just a minute before the end of the match so says scott mosco a clearly the stronger team in this i am the head coach i don't think this admits that as well. but it was the toughest side we have played against as i said in moscow this is a team that deserves to be in the champions league however on a student allowed to display their full potential today as we try to control the ball throughout the match and try to always play in the attack. as much as we want to focus on the game and here and play with a serious and i think the score in the first leg affected the quality of our play the players energy increased only after we conceded a goal which up says come all scoble know their group stage opponents on friday when the draw will be held in switzerland but for now it seems he is leaving cyprus

to prepare for their next premier league match against a lot of room on call for an artsy larnaca cyprus. it was a busy night of action champions league qualifying with five teams picking their group stage berths on tuesday serbia's partisan there into the big time following a. never under let baal never give moldavian minnows f.c. sure if sniff taking him for no good israel's finest couple well we'll be dreaming about the burnable old trafford on the rest after seeing all souls burge red bolt verger left at least to knock out some doria while the biggest shock of all of the night happened in spain where severe were left licking their wounds after a seven goals thriller with which builds. a little bit career looks all but over the russian figure skating grit being barred indefinitely from international skating union events with no extended to the twenty fourteen winter olympic games in sochi. it all stems from when the twenty

seven year old missed the world championships in true in back in march after filing paperwork citing leg injury as reason for the withdrawal however went on to perform in the kings on ice tour with events taking place across the globe in march and april because of this the. eligibility at the end of june was given twenty one days to appeal the verdict which did not with the stand it cannot officially compete in thought cheat but his wife and coach have said he will be fighting for gold there just how this will be. explained the. brings us to medics where caster semenya is back in the spotlight following almost a year long absence from the truck pending the results of gender tests than one thousand year old south african will compete in her first big event since returning last month the diamond league meets on friday in brussels. it was quite the b.b. was a lot of spin with my female friends too much in to just watch

them train. it was really good but. it was little. no. it was a little bit. and finally phil mickelson is a step away from becoming the world's top ranking golfer lefty can do just that the barclays on thursday the first event of the p.g.a. playoffs despite the recent struggles. on tiger woods mickelson says he expects nothing but the best from his longtime rival i expect him to play well every week so it's more surprising to me when he has a week that isn't up to his usual expectations but. regardless of what what's gone on recently i just expect him to play well just because he's he is who is. i have to leave you for now i do log on to our tape dot com forward slash sport for plenty more on today's stories where the weather is coming up just around the corner.

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