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nelson is featured as a witness in an investigation about the photos apparently he also worked at guantanamo when the request for tougher methods was sent. he agrees to meet with us and explain the methods used there. between one thousand change of scenery up and change of scenery down this is where you take the person out of the environment that are used to and if you put them in a change of scenery out they put them in a nicer area change of scenery down mean that you're going to put them into an isolation chamber cold conditions face lab stomach slap if you can hit them enough so that it shocks them especially if it gets a loud slap but you don't actually break any bones cut them bruise them then that's an effective technique is the way that they would usually refer to it as the putting is actually placed over their head. and the interrogator. shouts their

questions at them through the through the hood a prolonged standing if they were to do it for five seconds it wouldn't be too much of a bother after five ten minutes it really starts to to wear down their physical resistance increased anxiety by use of aversions if they had phobias of heights or. of certain animals you might introduce that to make them uncomfortable you could use these techniques if you got ten people to maybe give you a little bit of information using these techniques i guarantee you i could get one person to give more information if i was to convince that one person that we're the good guys and that we're their friends.

throughout. the time that i was there there was pressure from above for results. they were worried about are you abiding by geneva conventions and such that wasn't on the daily requests from higher command. requests coming down the pipeline or what information. which sources have become key sources that's what they were results because their mentality was that we've got them in detention the more people we're going to get in just a matter of time to get these guys to. one tunnel more become a testing ground for interrogation techniques which are then exported to other places. it can't be a coincidence that the same things we see in photos from abu ghraib in iraq are described in documents from guantanamo in cuba.

but what is the connection and who exactly sent the request to use tougher methods . it appears to be the same two star general who baucus had problems with. and if you look at the date the request was sent october eleventh. only two days after baucus left. and one month later. nor the two star general are still at the base. a new man has taken command general miller. the interrogation techniques that we use in guantanamo. but the senior leadership of. shortly after miller took command rumsfeld personally approved the request for tougher interrogation methods he had only one objection. the inquiry requested permission to. force prisoners to

stand in stress position for up to four hours. in the margin rumsfeld himself scribbled i stand eight to ten hours a day why is standing limited to just four hours. like that when. he was soft. and then short pier and then ken miller who really. sort of started a harsher techniques. i believe had no difficulty with pushing from his own office to get more results and that was that was. the side this man wanted everybody to break. and believe that the only right that people that. had was the right to give us

intelligence was the only right. in the business of winning the global war on terror we. as americans always do everything. we think makes america great. we decided to call a bank is again this time he was more cooperative. this week back you know i called you actually a long time ago i thought time you didn't want to. talk. i'm not at liberty to give any of you to disappoint. there are so many rumors. that i bow to that we don't want to end. things. wrong way but what is the timeline for your story we but in order to speak freely with us permission from the pentagon ok and if they. give you permission to participate

will you be available for an interview then i would make myself available correct ok really good we wouldn't it by a former commander. talk about it i mean. it's just so you can you basically did it to to give interview i can't tell them what to do for he said it's ok but it sounds to me like. if we approve it in other words we authorized it and we had by it it's the right thing to do to do it i did i did. why does the pentagon want to silence backus. who fired him and why. and who was it that took the interrogation methods from going tom the most. maybe the answer can be found somewhere else.

after the scandal now program when the photos came out command of the prison camp was taken over by none other than general miller. miller was sent to abu ghraib to clean up the mess after the scandal. the person miller replaces is general janis karpinski many consider her to be responsible for what went on in the prison in iraq since she was the commanding officer at the time and it was her soldiers posing in the pictures. jenny. it is me yes but there's an echo. cultural sweden hire a car you know i wasn't expecting to. i mean i know this is not. maybe your area of interest but. you heard about the dispute

between baucus and levy because of the occasion to cakes. i think that that's why baucus was fired. it takes up yes. and see everybody down it on time ok under miller they were all required to sign a formal statement from the government which is called a non-disclosure statement and that means when they leave guantanamo bay they can't just got anything that they've seen or heard or participated in i have to meet you would you live a minute i live in south carolina which is right on the code and. rumor has it come pinsky is now in an open conflict with the army after being demoted and relieved of her title as

a general. for the abuses in the prison she's been found not guilty but because three years ago she said to have shoplifted a perfume bottle she's even said to hate general miller in that she accuses him of the abuses in abu ghraib. like baucus she was chief over the military police and like him she also came in conflict with the interrogation leaders and just like baucus she was replaced by general miller could she know something about how interrogation methods developed at guantanamo could show up in photos from abu ghraib in iraq it's not a coincidence if the request for more aggressive techniques if the memorandum was forwarded after backus left here's a guy who is trained as a military police officer knows geneva conventions knows crossing the line knows the limitations and is forced to command the military police detention operations

in guantanamo bay that he discovers or maybe in the process of his assignment there they determine the geneva conventions no longer apply down there have you met him i mean by no i have not and he has been silent. it's almost eerie silent he's been. fired first backus and then he fired you why did you talk because i didn't sign a non-disclosure statement number one and number two i know the truth i don't know all of it obviously but i know the truth and i know i didn't know what was going on in cell block one a and b. and i know that they didn't let me know because they knew i would have screamed about it and i know that the m.p.'s that were there were directed to do what they did now someone senior to them made them to believe that it was ok. somebody who claimed to be an interrogator from up there he said ma'am the real

purpose of those pictures was to make the interrogations easier. we all agree that. we don't feel like we were doing. things that we weren't supposed. because we were told to do. we think everything was justified because we were instructed to do that. you know i was. really here i am hearing her let me. talk to secretary of defense about this just warning by the way i said find the truth and then tell the iraqi people and the world the truth we are with we have nothing to hide and we believe we believe in transparency because we're a free society that's for free societies do. to take any and all actions as may be needed to find out what happened and to see that appropriate steps are taken the

investigation went quickly and the only ones prosecuted were the seven soldiers pictured in the photos. and the miller was sent in to clean up after the scandal yes i would like to personally apologize to the people of iraq. but according to our pinsky general miller had already been in abu ghraib earlier before the pictures of abuse came out. he came from guantanamo on a secret mission and general miller never mentioned it but we found out later that he actually came on the same plane as secretary of defense rumsfeld he did this in brief with the all of the interrogators and the commander of the military intelligence brigade and general fast and the people from her staff that were involved in interrogations and he started out by saying that he was there to assess their operations and to help them get to achieve more actionable intelligence he

said but i think you're you treat the prisoners too well you're too gentle with them said you really need to treat them like dogs because if you treat them any better than that you should fact of legal control of the interrogation and before that meeting was over he said. head. with his with the lessons that they've learned techniques from guantanamo bay and in other locations he was going to get. this is the report of the general miller and his seventeen experts from good model left after their visit to abu ghraib just one month before the scandal broke out. here you can read his suggestions on how he would like to make the interrogations more effective for example he wanted to use the military police who previously were only used as prison guards to prepare the prisoners for interrogation. and here is an overhead found in the no one wants to take responsibility for the interrogation

methods the same develop. and here is miller being questioned by a senator about his visit to abu ghraib before the documents came out. specifically brief that. could be. contrary to the geneva convention. system's team took to. control of that prison and knew what was going on it wouldn't.

even. control they both kept quiet as the new methods were introduced maybe there are no real heroes in this story only people with more or less control . and some people who seem to be outside of any control or regulation. when we read the documents we discover strange little details. it's not just. there were billions involved in the abuse against prisoners so-called contractors for some reason were never brought to trial. what exactly is a contractor in the time. he was generous karpinski in iraq. the man walking beside him with the machine gun isn't a soldier he's

a contractor from blackwater we're talking here about the most we're talking about a hired. gun. and when you have in iraq. a man with a gun. who is to use that weapon you're talking about. there were no. we wanted to get in touch with someone. who can explain to us what exactly a contractor. trying to reach. out but they don't seem to want to talk to us. but it appears that the coalition

doesn't just use blackwater. the fact is there are over twenty thousand private contractors in iraq they constitute the second largest force after the american army. and hundreds of firms around the world private contract. one search for me based on romanian security company b d a. were in bucharest. show us what their services include. you were a. private company. others on. this and waste. well may decide. to write it. in the private system more mobility. why because. or over the wall of the media they.

have the rules it's not the left no the right. only. there what we've gone to the situation where we haven't thousands of armed left in the in iraq using their weapons without any rules without any rules of engagement any lol behind it there is no role for all of. the. fourteen hundred killed in one week not a single story appeared in the paper the coalition need these people because they want to reduce their casual period. in apparently using free lawn. mower and rid. to protect not only out soldiers. not the casualty figures

of the world. at guantanamo do you think they were contractors to contractors just started to be used right it towards the end of my tour in guantanamo and there was only one or two that i saw one when i left when we're talking about a grade though the percentage goes from maybe five or ten percent of the overall force up to fifty percent of the actual interrogation and analysis force there you were abu ghraib is soldier no and i'm great i was a civilian contractor. i mean let's look at it this way think of it i knew all competent unconventional war think of a conflict for example the one in iraq think of the balkans think back to world war two when you take. people captive to corral to hold them during most of us do these there's a legal basis for that this is the same principle that is being applied here the

only difference is that we are in lieu of an unconventional war where the world is against a private organization rather than a a stake. i mean let's look at it this way think of a. competent unconventional war where the war is against the privatization. a state. where is no. data does not mean we care does not belong to responsible. it out. of an unconventional war the earth is a cancer defining organization. many people don't believe that you just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. what can you tell them. on our own send the question she doesn't believe one they don't believe.

is what g. want to tell those who don't believe in you in your story. i hope. will be released later they will be able to explain in a stronger way. i mean this thing with it why were you there. if. ok basically. we have camps for chance and in the beginning of the camp detainees. and detainees are getting closer to be released very sick. just.

as we can hear from hear. the voices they hear. the voices of detainees in the chair. and one reason why you can hear them say because in the nighttime it's very quiet out here they're not as many vehicles moving so because it's so quiet you can hear the voices of the detainees. to this. day their units eight by eight with what they say they say they have the opportunity to speak to one another. talking to one another some of them may be praying some of them are just just talking and they may be talking to someone. just normal conversation and sometimes you do hear prayer to call the prayer chattering.

what happens to the prisoners still canted guantanamo. and what happens to those who are released. there have been nearly four hundred separate media visits to guantanamo bay by more than one thousand journals additionally some one hundred eighty congressional representatives have visited the facility. arguably no detention facility in the history of warfare has been more transparent or received more than. last year.

we've been at guantanamo and we still don't know what really happens inside them. but maybe that's not the most important thing because what we do know is enough. we know that there are still prisoners held inside their loss to their right to remain silent. and who don't even know if they are ever going to get out. if one time although it's been reported to develop a seventy two point matrix for stress and duress leads out types of coercion escalation levels being pulled harsher heat or cold withholding food clothing for days at a time naked isolation and cold dark cells is that correct care gorkhaland correct never have to care gora click in the correct.

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